Is Xposed for pie in the works?
Is development continuing?
Yes, already out check it out
TENN3R said:
Yes, already out check it out
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Sort of misleading if he was thinking of official Xposed for Pie, which doesn't exist. But since he didn't specify...
Yeah, EdXposed seems to be working well for folks it seems.
Essential PH-1, /e/ 0.5-n ROM, microG (NoGapps), XDA Legacy
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Sort of misleading if he was thinking of official Xposed for Pie, which doesn't exist. But since he didn't specify...
Yeah, EdXposed seems to be working well for folks it seems.
Essential PH-1, /e/ 0.5-n ROM, microG (NoGapps), XDA Legacy
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Yes, I meant official Xposed for pie. Thanks.
marcdw said:
Sort of misleading if he was thinking of official Xposed for Pie, which doesn't exist. But since he didn't specify...
Yeah, EdXposed seems to be working well for folks it seems.
Essential PH-1, /e/ 0.5-n ROM, microG (NoGapps), XDA Legacy
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I have seen more people talk about "official Xposed" and each time I am wondering what is official about just a hobby project (told so by rovo89 himself) and what is less official about EdXposed.
EdXposed is actively developed, Xposed is not. EdXposed is open source, "recent" versions of Xposed are not. EdXposed works on Android Pie and Q, Xposed does not. EdXposed passes Safetynet, Xposed does not. If I take this as a measure, EdXposed is by far superior over Xposed and qualifies therefore more as "official" (not that I want to call it official, that is not the point).
Some people say that EdXposed is a fork or clone of Xposed, which is incorrect because EdXposed is an original, new work. EdXposed also works differently compared to Xposed.
So, if you had respect for Xposed (you should have had!), you should have respect for EdXposed too and not call it directly or indirectly "unofficial".
Just my 2 cents.
Note that this is a general remark, so not really a reply to the replied comment (this sounds awkward, but I hope it is clear want I mean).
Thanks Marcel for the clear explanation. It is very helpful to me. As the person who asked the question I just used the same term as the previous person, understanding what he meant by it.
I have used Xposed for a long time along with several of its modules (gravitybox, Xprivacylua, etc.) and it became comfortable to me. If unavailable for pie I have no problem using Edxposed when I finally root my new phone. It's a Moto G7, brand new, and I'm waiting for the rooting and unrooting procedures to become more certain, and twrp and lineageos to become available. Until then Im forced to use an unrooted phone with much less control than I'm used to.
Without Titanium Backup I can't even back up my app data! Avoiding Google where I can.
Thanks again Marcel.
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MOD EDIT: PLEASE MIGRATE TO THE OFFICIAL CANARY BUILDS
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT UNOFFICIAL COMMUNITY BUILDS. OFFICIAL BETAS THREAD IS HERE: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/beta-magisk-v13-0-0980cb6-t3618589.
This thread is dedicated to the community-built next versions of Magisk and MagiskManager using latest source files posted by @topjohnwu. If you want to contribute in any way -- create a PR/issue on github.
These might be very unstable builds, especially in the early stages of development. You're highly advised to read the rest of this post and at least a few last pages of the discussion.
Downloads are here: https://github.com/TheComputerGuy96/MagiskFiles. Keep reading if this is your first visit to this thread or for the updates at the bottom of this post.
Current builds are courtesy of @kantjer. This project wouldn't have happened without @Deic's module to track the snapshot updates (which may be hindered by recent @topjohnwu changes in versioning) and his contributions to the build script, as well as major contributions in supporting fellow community members by @Captain_Throwback, @Didgeridoohan and @DodoGTA.
Installation:
Magisk: flash magisk snapshot from recovery, it should install over any previous version just fine.
Magisk Manager: The snapshot APK is signed with a different key than the release APK so you can't install snapshot magisk manager over magisk manager from Play Store. You will need to uninstall existing Magisk Manager and install the snapshot APK afterwards.
Commits Logs:
Magisk (master branch)
Magisk Manager (master branch)
IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK AND/OR CRASHING:
No support of any kind is implied, however it's a community forum so some users (including local experts) might be willing to help your and/or your report might be helpful to @topjohnwu, but please make sure to follow the below:
Magisk Manager crashing? Problem with Magisk module? Post installed versions of magisk, magisk manager, versions of all installed modules and the magisk log + logcat.
Downloads: https://github.com/TheComputerGuy96/MagiskFiles
Source code: https://github.com/TheComputerGuy96/Magisk (branch travisci-dev)
Travis-CI link: https://travis-ci.org/TheComputerGuy96/Magisk
That's nice of you. What is the change log?
Cool! I'm gonna give this a try and see if some of my issues are resolved.
Filip013 said:
That's nice of you. What is the change log?
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We can check the commits log for now: https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/commits/master and https://github.com/topjohnwu/MagiskManager/commits/master.
@topjohnwu, what's the reasoning for disabling MagiskHide when SuperSu is installed?
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@topjohnwu, what's the reasoning for disabling MagiskHide when SuperSu is installed?
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Because Magisk Hide don't work with SuperSU? Maybe...
Viper4android is working well S7 nougat
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Because Magisk Hide don't work with SuperSU? Maybe...
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I have MagiskHide working perfectly with SuperSu 2.79 on Nougat. I can use PoGo and AP. The latest Github commit breaks it.
gamer765 said:
I have MagiskHide working perfectly with SuperSu 2.79 on Nougat. I can use PoGo and AP. The latest Github commit breaks it.
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Ok, cool... Did not know that was possible. Since topjohnwu himself have stated that Magisk Hide can NOT hide SuperSU, I assume he has a good reason to do what he does.
Think about saying stupid things, you should have respect for the guy. Just turn on magisk hide, do not tick supersu in gui
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Think about saying stupid things, you should have respect for the guy. Just turn on magisk hide, do not tick supersu in gui
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G930F met Tapatalk
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Not sure if you're directing that at me, but no one here is saying stupid things, except maybe you. Plus, I'm a dev/hacker myself so it doesn't really bother me, since I can always fix it myself.
gamer765 said:
I have MagiskHide working perfectly with SuperSu 2.79 on Nougat. I can use PoGo and AP. The latest Github commit breaks it.
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If you haven't yet, please consider creating an issue for that on github and let @topjohnwu know.
AFAIK you can checkout the code one commit before the problematic one and build your own v10.
PS. Please don't feed the trolls.
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I have MagiskHide working perfectly with SuperSu 2.79 on Nougat. I can use PoGo and AP. The latest Github commit breaks it.
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That's unexpected, it never worked previously, I just added the detection I should have done in ages.
I'll try it myself when I got time, once confirmed working I'll revert this change
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I have MagiskHide working perfectly with SuperSu 2.79 on Nougat. I can use PoGo and AP. The latest Github commit breaks it.
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I'm not sure how you're accomplishing this, but it shouldn't be possible, unless you're also using some other hiding method (suhide, RootSwitch). Magisk Hide cannot hide SuperSU. I just installed it and tried it to confirm, since your post piqued my curiosity, but not surprisingly, SafetyNet came up all red, and my AirWatch app shows compromised.
Can you explain in detail what your setup is and confirm you're ONLY using SuperSU and Magisk Hide, and pass with green for SafetyNet?
Ah, well I am using suhide and rootswitch as well and everything works perfectly fine for me.
I've attached screenshots of SafetyNet passing for me. By all means, it's your project, you may do whatever you wish with it, I'll just fork it and make my own private builds where SuperSU does not disable MagiskHide..
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Ah, well I am using suhide and rootswitch as well and everything works perfectly fine for me.
I've attached screenshots of SafetyNet passing for me. By all means, it's your project, you may do whatever you wish with it, I'll just fork it and make my own private builds where SuperSU does not disable MagiskHide..
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Let me take a moment and just lay my palm against my forehead...
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess what you're really using Magisk Hide for is hiding your unlocked bootloader with resetprop. There are other ways of doing that, you don't need Magisk Hide.
No, I do not. I use it for other stuff as well. All my mods are systemless. I'm on completely stock system with a custom kernel that does not pass bootloader unlock flags. I'm not a dumb person, but I see I'm being treated that way. I do things the way I do them for a reason. I will no longer partake in this conversation, I have better things to do. Maybe it's better to just stick to stock because ignorance is bliss. I need a break anyways from my work. Bye and thank you.
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No, I do not. I use it for other stuff as well. All my mods are systemless. I'm on completely stock system with a custom kernel that does not pass bootloader unlock flags. I'm not a dumb person, but I see I'm being treated that way. I do things the way I do them for a reason. I will no longer partake in this conversation, I have better things to do. Maybe it's better to just stick to stock because ignorance is bliss. I need a break anyways from my work. Bye and thank you.
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Well if you want to use SuperSU with Magisk Hide, just manually revert the change that disallowed it. That takes 10 seconds to do.
Captain_Throwback said:
Well if you want to use SuperSU with Magisk Hide, just manually revert the change that disallowed it. That takes 10 seconds to do.
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His question still stands, if MagiskHide does work with SuperSu installed and there're viable use cases for that, why disable it?
stangri said:
His question still stands, if MagiskHide does work with SuperSu installed and there're viable use cases for that, why disable it?
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I don't think @topjohnwu was considering those extended use cases when he disabled it. Maybe now that he knows, he'll revert that change. I think he was thinking that Magisk Hide can't directly hide it so it would always be detected. With several other tools, it's apparently possible to hide it, which is good to know. Personally, I'll just be sticking with the open-source solution anyway, so it doesn't really affect me.
EDIT: Besides the fact that there are many people who will enable it, not knowing that Magisk Hide can't hide SuperSU. I think the change was in an effort to prevent those types of questions.
Just got the device and contemplating updating. Is the update worth it?
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Just got the device and contemplating updating. Is the update worth it?
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It depends on how much you like xposed and its modules? in my opinion I prefer xposed over any supposed performance or battery upgrades nougat has.
Depends on what you use Xposed for. If enjoy heavily modifying your ROM, you should probably just stick to Marshmallow.
If you only use Xposed for basic mods like the YouTube ones, there's workarounds available now that work on Nougat.
Or you could use rr nougat and still pretty much have a great level of customization while still having the latest android. This is the ROM I use and I have no complaints get updated frequently as well. I don't really care for xposed or oos that's not why I got the phone. I got it because it has great development support here at xda and cause it's awesome of course.
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It depends on how much you like xposed and its modules? in my opinion I prefer xposed over any supposed performance or battery upgrades nougat has.
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Yes I'm kind of leaning this way.
On OP3T, would you recall steps to install xposed? And which root method you used?
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Depends on what you use Xposed for. If enjoy heavily modifying your ROM, you should probably just stick to Marshmallow.
If you only use Xposed for basic mods like the YouTube ones, there's workarounds available now that work on Nougat.
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What would it be for youtube background play and youtube no ads.
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What would it be for youtube background play and youtube no ads.
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Modified YouTube APK.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytbp-injected-youtube-background-t3560900
I've stuck with Nougat since getting mine. Hopefully, rovo89 updates Xposed for Nougat in the near future. I love the deep layer of customization that comes with Xposed, but OOS with Magisk is pretty damn awesome.
Xposed is nice, but OOS has great functionality and what I am missing, can be added with Magisk. So no, no miss. Also, Safety Net works which is nice.
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I've stuck with Nougat since getting mine. Hopefully, rovo89 updates Xposed for Nougat in the near future. I love the deep layer of customization that comes with Xposed, but OOS with Magisk is pretty damn awesome.
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Xposed is nice, but OOS has great functionality and what I am missing, can be added with Magisk. So no, no miss. Also, Safety Net works which is nice.
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Like can you use something like snapreffs or xinsta with magisk?
Magisk doesn't really have much in common with Xposed, they do completely different things. Xposed modifies how an app runs while the app is running by interrupting commands, while Magisk simply replaces or inserts files in /system at boot. The level of customization that Xposed offers simply cannot be achieved directly with Magisk. It might be possible to modify the original Instagram app to include features from snapress or xinsta and then install the modified app.
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Modified YouTube APK.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytbp-injected-youtube-background-t3560900
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but there is no root for OP3 A3000 7.0 Nougat with 4.0.3 Oxygen OS, that method needs root?
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but there is no root for OP3 A3000 7.0 Nougat with 4.0.3 Oxygen OS, that method needs root?
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SuperSU and MagiskSU both work perfectly on every version of OOS 4.x I have used so far... There's half a dozen guides on XDA alone that shows you how to root...
Sorry for the rant i apologize
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but there is no root for OP3 A3000 7.0 Nougat with 4.0.3 Oxygen OS, that method needs root?
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Pretty sure every OnePlus phone has been rootable. I mean, I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it. OnePlus has always been very friendly to the root community, and IMO it's paid off well for them.
Lost Xposed reverted back to 6.0.. Wasn't worthed for me to lose Xposed
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Lost Xposed reverted back to 6.0.. Wasn't worthed for me to lose Xposed
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Which Xposed modules can't you live without?
Hello everyone !
I will develop a new app like Magisk but very easy to install and manage.
Opened this thread because i am tired of bootloops and rom installs i had and also i am curious how many people are happy with Magisk.
Feek free to post your thoughts here.
I also need a name for this app so please suggesting one will be a good thing.
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Magisk is a pretty amazing app. One stop shopping for many of my Superuser needs. I use it for audio mods anti G-spy stuff and much more. Magisk works great for me but I love having options. Good luck, interested to see were you go with this.
Regards
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Hmm... Interesting. Magisk is beast honestly. I was a tried and true SuperSU user and nothing else for years and it took me awhile to make the complete switch to magisk but it's amazing. Not onyl is root reliable, I always pass safety net, and there are tons and tons of modules for magisk which makes it that much better. Development is booming for Magisk and the modules.
1. Are two reserved posts necessary?
2. Magisk is pretty easy to install and manage already. Especially with the number of supported devices.
I'm all for options/competition but why not contribute to Magisk?
loserskater said:
1. Are two reserved posts necessary?
2. Magisk is pretty easy to install and manage already. Especially with the number of supported devices.
I'm all for options/competition but why not contribute to Magisk?
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1. Yes. These post are necessary.
2. I do not think magisk is easy to install ( especially when updating )
3. :highfive:
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2. I do not think magisk is easy to install ( especially when updating )
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For my own curiosity and in the interest of possibly helping to improve Magisk, what kind of issues do you have when updating?
Didgeridoohan said:
For my own curiosity and in the interest of possibly helping to improve Magisk, what kind of issues do you have when updating?
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i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
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i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
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While you're building your app, the recovery log and boot image from from that clean install could be very useful and possibly help make Magisk more robust and compatible with more devices. :good:
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i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
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I've never had any of these scenarios happen. When I dirty flash ROM with Magisk already installed, I flash over top and everything is same as before dirty flash. If I uninstall, then reinstall, obviously it's a clean setup. I've never had bootloop 9nce I don't think. Your most likely not dirty flashing, thus it is compressing imag over image essentially when trying to uodate. Mgisk says restore stock boot I'm going before updating, which is what dirty flash does. If you would either dirty flash or just flash stock boot image before doing any of the things you've attempted you most likely won't bootloop
Yes. I have encountered alot of situation -bootloop and softbricks- where the culprit is magisk. I eventually thought not to use it but I'm obliged to use it for its quite awesome module mechanism. Thefore, every possiblity that involves magisk with no bootloop is appreciated.
Magisk 16 and Samsung Galaxy S5=Safety Net failed
All is ok only on Magisk stable 15.3
AndrOmega said:
i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
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While you're building your app, the recovery log and boot image from from that clean install could be very useful and possibly help make Magisk more robust and compatible with more devices. :good:
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Why build your own app when you can build upon a great foundation that is magisk ? Working as a community.. nothing beats it.
Many minds is better than one!
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Why build your own app when you can build upon a great foundation that is magisk ? Working as a community.. nothing beats it.
Many minds is better than one!
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@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
:highfive:
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@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
:highfive:
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Not really ("halted") and possible but unlikely ("android p"). I appreciate the hubris but think such positive energy would be better invested in collaboration with the Magisk team/community which brings considerable expertise and experience to the table.
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@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
:highfive:
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Well if your apps can stop Xposed from triggering Safetynet then yes you will have a lot of support from user including me...
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iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Well if your apps can stop Xposed from triggering Safetynet then yes you will have a lot of support from user including me...
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
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i am focusing on xposed implementation with passing safety net test :good:
AndrOmega said:
@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
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Doesn't Cydia Substrate require root? So people would need Magisk anyway? And hasn't Cydia been dead for a long time?
No offense but you seem to like to get people hyped with nothing to show for it so there's going to be some scepticism.
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Not really ("halted") and possible but unlikely ("android p"). I appreciate the hubris but think such positive energy would be better invested in collaboration with the Magisk team/community which brings considerable expertise and experience to the table.
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Completely agree
I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
My current ROM is lineageos 14.1 which updates fine with Xposed framework installed. So I don't have to deal with stock ota updates.
For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
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... For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
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If you don't care very much about system/less installation of zips because you're on a custom rom, maybe the only advantage is that systemless xposed is easier to remove if you end up in a bootloop or if you have other kind of problems.
Also, disabling magisk will disable xposed (again, in case of problems).
So, I think the main benefit is this. I tested when I was on Oreo (now I'm on P beta) and yes, in case of bootloop or crashes, disabling xposed modules or systemless xposed in magisk is like a life saver sometimes.
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I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
My current ROM is lineageos 14.1 which updates fine with Xposed framework installed. So I don't have to deal with stock ota updates.
For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
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Personally I don't"t think it matters. I am using s8 stock noughat 7.0 rom using rovo"s xposed ver 89 and magisk 16.4 with no issues.
From my understanding reading the op for systemless xposed it's basically Rovo"s version ported to be installed through magisk. So what ever problems you have with one version you would have with the other (app wise that is).
Either version does not pass safety net and can effect play store certification.
I am currently running about 10 exposed apps + about 13 root apps at the moment.
At the end of the day I think it would be a personal choice as to which you choose to use.
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maybeme2 said:
I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
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Pfff... Get with the times, Grandpa!
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Pfff... Get with the times, Grandpa!
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That's what a wired desktop is for. But, you go ahead.
maybeme2 said:
That's what a wired desktop is for. But, you go ahead.
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Do you think what a wired desktop is more secure than your android/IOS device nowdays? ALL the OSs have their own compromises and malware, specially desktop OSs.
I'm on android 8.1 with magisk v16 and safety net passes but I installed xposed SDK 27 and works but fails safetynet
Oooooh... You better duck dude! There's gonna be a whole barrage of posts, some more aggressive than others, that you should have searched on that very often asked and answered question.
Xposed = not passing SafetyNet
No way around it...
LOL @Nitro1010. ???
Too tired to throw pots and pans your way. That is probably the most known thing, probably covering hundreds of posts going way back.
Plead for mercy now. ?
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Uhm, so do I have to uninstall Xposed to login to Snapchat and then reinstall Xposed after?
Cajmonet said:
Uhm, so do I have to uninstall Xposed to login to Snapchat and then reinstall Xposed after?
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That's one of the methods, yes.
In my case, for years, all I did was restore Snapchat (or just data) from backup. Several devices and lots of ROMs since 2014 and I never had any issues on rooted and Xposed ROMs. It's been so long that I don't even know what my login is. Never had to log in in all that time.
That all changed this past summer when Snap logged me out of all of my installations. I just stopped using the app at that point since I can't login. Anyway, I don't know if Snapchat login issues are related to Xposed or root in general. Uninstall or disable Xposed and try to log in. If login is good I'd say back it up just in case. Reinstall Xposed and see if login holds. If so, you're good. Whenever you flash a new ROM just be sure to install and setup Snapchat first before installing Xposed.
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