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Hey guys,
i own my One for a couple of days now and I'm a bit unsure if the cam is really okay.
I'm on 1.29 and some pictures are really blurry on different areas, but then again the same camera shot is completely okay and sharp.
Here are examples of what I meant.
The first two pictures were taken from the same location and you'll see the difference (besides the sky is not in line in one of them).
The third one is really blurry on the right side but this can't be a out of focus thing because of the small sensor and wide angle.
The other pictures I made were completely fine so far.
Is this a known issue? How can I test the camera better? Do I need a replacement?
Thanks
Daniel
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Maybe a better example from a couple of minutes ago.
I did the same shot a couple of times and here is the difference (this is a crop from the left side of the picture)
Mine does the same thing I don't know why...
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The distortion seems to indicate a problem with the rolling shutter, along with movement in the camera. I'd hazard a guess and say your hand was moving slightly when the first picture was taken. The effect shouldn't be that pronounced, though, you shouldn't even been able to see it, really.
I haven't even figured out which way the shutter moves on this one.. hm. Something to look at.
I'm not sure if i understood you right but the Shutter time was 1/1200 so i don't think that shaking should be a problem.
Also it's only partial, as you see the house is perfectly sharp!
Yeah, but CMOS sensors don't capture the image all at once. It's like a scanline renderer or an old CRT television, it starts at the top and works its way down to the bottom. That's what creates the "warping" effect on videos shot with cameras like this (you can Google it, it's typically called the "rolling shutter effect"). If you switch between the two photos you posted, there's clearly some pretty nasty distortion happening on one of them (probably the first one, with the blurring).
But, the bottom line is that you shouldn't see it at all, or it should be so slight as to be unnoticeable on a still frame shot. I've seen it on videos I've taken with my older phones, but never on a still shot, and never as bad as what I see in those shots you posted. I'm not sure if that's a problem in the software/firmware of the camera (in which case it can be fixed), or a problem with the CMOS sensor itself not actually capturing the image as quickly as it was supposed to.
Was there anything particular about these shots that was different from the norm? Were they captured in a batch, or just a single click? ZOE mode, or just straight up? The stock HTC camera app, or a third-party app? And is the phone ROMd? I don't think they've got the camera working quite right in most ROMs right now, although I don't know if the effect would be what you're describing.
Mind you, I don't know squat about actually fixing the issue, but I can hopefully help narrow it down to what's causing it.
Curse my not-having-the-phone-yet-edness. I'd test all this myself, but my One doesn't get here until tomorrow. I do intend on running the camera through its paces over the first week or so I have it, though.
same here
I have the same problem sometimes..
Thanks for your explaination. I also heard that the OIS may cause this.
And as there are a couple of people with the same issue (in this thread and over the net) maybe other users haven't experienced it YET and it's a software issue. I'm really quite unsure what to do.
The shots were taken with the original Camera app, without Zoe, with original non-rooted firmware, with normal automatic settings.
I've experienced this about 4 times now and i shot about 30-40 Pictures so far.
I've also had the problem a few times, and outdoors in daylight where shutter speed should be so fast add to negate slight hand movement. Also the blur will sometimes be in only half the picture... Odd.
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Dacoco said:
Maybe a better example from a couple of minutes ago.
I did the same shot a couple of times and here is the difference (this is a crop from the left side of the picture)
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Have you tried to focus twice . It seems to fix my problem.
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Have you tried to focus twice . It seems to fix my problem.
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Yes, because i remember one blurry picture i made - I focussed once and it was extreme blurry on the screen, then i focussed twice and the picture was okay on the camera screen, but in the end it was blurry...
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I had the same issue with the camera. .. I spoke with htc advisors and they told me that is hardware problem(lense or focus). If you have problem try to take a video and look if it's all ok.. my was keep focusing on the right hand side every few seconds. ...so I send my phone back to them for repair.. waiting now ..
valecc said:
I had the same issue with the camera. .. I spoke with htc advisors and they told me that is hardware problem(lense or focus). If you have problem try to take a video and look if it's all ok.. my was keep focusing on the right hand side every few seconds. ...so I send my phone back to them for repair.. waiting now ..
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Mine was sent to repair, i got a replacement and the phone part was broken, now i'm waiting for the 2nd swap. Man i love htc and the ****ing repair service in germany...
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Did they actually fixed your old one or they gave you new phone??? I don't know what to expect. ..
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Did they actually fixed your old one or they gave you new phone??? I don't know what to expect. ..
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i got a new one. but maybe because i chattet with a htc facebook agent before.
Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
are you on 1.29?
the photo`s are overexposed, the one sets the exposure on what it is focusing on, so i would have though it focused on the dark water and raised the exposure, that`s is why the white birds are overexposed, if you focused on a white bird, the one would reduce the exposure, and give more detail on the birds.
You know you can touch the screen to focus, but there is a setting in the menu to take a photo automatically when you click on an area of the screen.
I wish there was an total area exposure mode instead of the focus spot one.
John.
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
valdigre said:
Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
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It's called metering. When you tap on the water to focus (dark), the camera turns the light up so that the water is clearly visible and perfectly exposed. But since you're making dark brighter, the brights will naturally be even brighter. You want the feathers to show detail, you tap on them and it adjusts the light so that they are darker and you can see detail at the expense of even darker water.
Your best bet in these kind of high contrast situations is to use HDR mode. It takes 1 under-exposed image (dark) and 1 slightly over-exposed image (bright) and merges the 2 together. Dark areas will be brighter and bright areas will be darker, giving the image a little fake look, but evenly exposed throughout.
On dSLRs, HDR actually takes THREE images to combine (sometimes even 5). This gives the processor more choices to pick and choose the best parts of each image to merge to a final picture.
SLver said:
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
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Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
yeah do some metering and try different types of shots,
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Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
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Just some samples to explain my previous post. First pic is me focusing on the wall, which is dark. The wall is now not but my lightsource is completely blown out.
As one pic shows me focusing on the light. Since it's bright, the camera has to darken the whole scene so I can actually see the object I focused on, turning the rest of the scene dark.
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Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
It's just the camera. I tested it against an s4 and an Xperia z. Indoor shots were way better on the one than either of them but both beat out the one hands down when it came to outdoor shots. I have tried everything and can't get a really good outdoor shot. I would like to see the result of someone porting the Xperia z camera app to our device but I don't know if it is possible.
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valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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Those first picture is terrible...
Could you post more pictures because that kind of terrible picture i have never had with the htc one...
So we can see if its realy broken
valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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Hey guys,
The problem is, that some extra white/bright objects are too small for the camera to catch focus for and adjust the settings.
I played with settings a bit over the weekend and the camera focuses OK on brighter objects, as long as they are big enough...
A bit of a shame, nor my Lumia 920, nor even galaxy S2 has problems like this... I guess, I can live with it, though
EDIT: So, I did some more testing and the fault seems to be with the focus of the camera. Initially when you open the camera app it auto focuses and this then leaves me with an out of focus picture and touch to focus never actually changes anything. I tested Camera FV-5 and this app has an option to disable auto focus, allowing me to take a picture without the camera ever focusing, this takes a perfect picture but if I touch to focus it goes out of focus just like the stock camera.
Obviously it is faulty as it no longer makes that click when you open the camera app, well it does, but only like once every dozen times the camera is opened (still out of focus btw) ... Macro shots work perfectly, focus is spot on but anything at a distance of about more than a foot or two away just seems to blur.
Below are a few more shots that highlight the error:
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It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
Mike
sp5it said:
It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
Mike
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Thanks for the reply .. So it's not faulty then? Just a big negative of having so few pixels, no matter how much light they let in?
IMO it is hardware problem.
Mike
AllAboutTheCore said:
Has anybody else had problems with blurry shots when not taking a picture of something close? I recently went to the coast for the day and decided to take some pictures from the cliffs and on the beach, all of which were just scenic pictures at distance (nothing close up or in particular that could/wanted to focus on) but they all came out blurry. I don't seem to have any issues when taking pictures of close up objects or when there's something in particular to focus on but anything else is just pathetic.
I compared them to my Sony digital camera from about 4 years ago the pictures were spot on compared to the One ... See a couple of examples below. I tried focusing on various parts aswell but still the pictures are terrible ... Does this sound like a fault with the camea or focusing part in particular, or is it just that the One takes terrible pictures when not close up?
Thanks for any input. (The ones in focus are from my digital camera and everything blurry is from the One)
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I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!
gustav30 said:
I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!
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Lol, I don't have the caffeine issue but with regards to tests, I have done lotssssssssssss lol. Pictures I've taken close up, especially ones where I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.
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I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.
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Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
Mike
sp5it said:
Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
Mike
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I'm 99% sure it's software related and that's based purely on a test I just did with a 3rd party camera app and the stock one. I took the same shot with both camera apps and did nothing but let it auto focus and take the shot, one looks fine, the other looks blurry ... Doesn't take much guess work to figure out by these results, that it must be software based because both pictures use the same hardware
Check these 3 pictures. One is a nice close up with the stock camera on Sense, which looks very good. The other two pics are the two mentioned earlier, as you can see, stock Sense camera is blurry and out of focus but the 3rd party one is much, much better ...
Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
Mike
sp5it said:
Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
Mike
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They're not going to be full of detail, it's dull, I didn't adjust any settings, I didn't manually focus or adjust exposure and I took them from my room ... Through the window.
I didn't take them to capture detail, purely to show how two different camera apps using the same hardware, give completely different results when it comes to backgrounds not being blurred or out of focus. If it had been a nice day and scenic then the pictures would obviously have looked better but then my issue is with focus and blur on the Sense camera, not how little detail the HTC is capable of capturing when the conditions are anything but perfect.
My camera just seems to have issues staying focused, pictures aren't bad by any means though.
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I am on my 3rd HTC One M7 since April when I initially ordered. First two had gaps and poor build quality. I finally get a good build but have the same camera issue. Its all out of focus and bit blurred. I have reset to factory etc but no fix so its hardware problem.It's now on its way back for repair with P4U in the UK. Hopefully 4th time I will get a workable well built phone.
I seem to be experiencing the same issue. It didn't start happening until Sep. 14th. Did your issues start suddenly, or did your One always have this problem?
Here are some example shots:
Proper auto focus at a short distance
Improper auto focus from maybe 10 feet away
Improper auto focus from far away
And my phone issues, you can interview about the android4.2.2, perfect results, the focus is normal, close-range vision is normal, personal guess is driver problem, but no ability to solve, hope can help transplant drive.
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Hey new family!
Just brought my new z1 home, updated firmware and still Im totally unhappy with its camera. pictures are super blurry in auto and manual mode. Tested indoor with much daylight in the room... schould be more than plenty. My old galaxy s3 made way better pictures. Any suggestions? is it possible that i have a faulty model??
Greetz
what mode are you shooting in?
this seems to make most difference.
there are threads about the camera already so in a nutshell - 8mp is better than 20mp for sharpness/clarity
scene - landscape or night if light is low
14.1.G.2.257 perfect image quality!
I think you should share some of your pics + the modes selected to us so that our recommendation would be more accurate
I like Manual + 20mp + ISO 100 or 50 + EV 1 or 2 notches up depending on the light... I also prefer using the dedicated shutter button so that your hand is more stable... for moving objects (or very shaky hands) higher the ISO the less the blurriness but more noise...
8mp manual mode is the best and there's definitely some trouble with the autofokus.
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8mp manual mode is the best and there's definitely some trouble with the autofokus.
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auto focus problem is found in all sony phones.. from xperia S to Z1...i m a long sony user...actually sony software is a mess
I have not a problem with my camera. auto focus and flash does not work when its automatic mode in the night. Just flash and picture is dark
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Mighty_X said:
Hey new family!
Just brought my new z1 home, updated firmware and still Im totally unhappy with its camera. pictures are super blurry in auto and manual mode. Tested indoor with much daylight in the room... schould be more than plenty. My old galaxy s3 made way better pictures. Any suggestions? is it possible that i have a faulty model??
Greetz
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i agree the camera is terrible
but i don't use camera that much do it hasn't bothered me all too much but i did expect ALOT more
the pictures are EXTREMELY noisy really bad
zzcool said:
i agree the camera is terrible
but i don't use camera that much do it hasn't bothered me all too much but i did expect ALOT more
the pictures are EXTREMELY noisy really bad
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It really isn't.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
^^^ And that was on the last firmware.
Timaustin2000 said:
It really isn't.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
^^^ And that was on the last firmware.
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then either my camera is broken or i am doing something wrong i tried both manual and auto in a well lit room
zooming in on anything makes a noisy mess
This was just a quick snap using superior auto, which isn't the greatest mode but that is absolutely fine to me.
I'd get it looked at
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This was just a quick snap using superior auto, which isn't the greatest mode but that is absolutely fine to me.
I'd get it looked at
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what are the lighting conditions in this shot? how far away was the can from the camera?
I can see the noise in the background. Also, the MON and ER are a but blurry. Other that that, the picture is ok - nothing spectacular.
I can't wait to try the camera out when I get the phone.
Mid morning with a window behind me, can was about 8-12 inches away.
Focusing on the can would make the background a little blurred
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Mid morning with a window behind me, can was about 8-12 inches away.
Focusing on the can would make the background a little blurred
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Looks fine for those conditions albeit a bit grainy. Nothing to cry over really. I just got mine today but unfortunately the c6906 doesn't have the latest firmware yet. I'll do some test shots after I get off work to see what the the fuss is about.
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
Its not really a fault of the camera or the phone, it is attempting to get a correctly exposed shot with the light available and if there is a lot of movement in poor light the bits that are moving get blurred due to a slow shutter speed.
You might want to try using the colour sensor only although it is well known the camera app is a bit crap, you could try another like Camera Zoom FX etc.
Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.
shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Change your wife and problem solved?
ben_linux said:
Change your wife and problem solved?
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LMAO!
Haha,
Sadly I will still have the challenge with pictures of moving things.
shaunydub said:
Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.
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Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.
MrBelter said:
Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.
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For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.
But did you try Google Camera on the dev section ? the BSG, Cstark or Arnova one ? There is zero shutter lag like Pixels, and it's very good.
You can't compete with Lumia 950XL though. Still a king after these years and incredible in low light
shaunydub said:
For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.
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Age has nothing to do with it though, a good camera is a good camera, my (now little used) Canon 20D is 14 years old and still takes a cracking photo.
The f2 aperture is the weak point on the Nokia 8, even my Moto G5 Plus has an f1.7 aperture and sadly Nokia cant do anything to change that other than force the camera to shoot with a higher ISO and therefore a faster shutter in low light.
Use the google camera app. Turn on "HDR+ Enhanced" and you should not get blurry photo in decent/good light. A bit of delay per shot but you'll get great image.
The phone still gives up in low light, however.
Bit late here, but I have the same issue. I think the camera is ****. Even my old phones (and cheaper phones are significantly better at capturing moving targets). Really disappointed. Got new kitten, 1 in 10 photos is keepable. Even in bright light. It just takes way too long to focus, often missing the moment altogether.
shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Slow/blurry focus is already a common problem on Nokia 8. You can install the Google Camera to resolve the problem. It also comes with some new features (such as motion picture) which is currently and exclusively on Google Pixel 2 camera as well.??
Let's check out the following posts for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/themes/modded-google-camera-hdr-nokia-8-t3713411
Google Camera port download page:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/