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i have Nokia n900 and now i am also in seek of something new now! i think i should go for galaxy note.
i would get it if it has....
open ssh
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
H-E-N
xterminal
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
vnc viwer
and root access and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
can anyone confirm for me?
you can google al the apps (since i am not allowed to post links here)
I would buy Nokia n900 if it has Android✘
Boy124 said:
I would buy Nokia n900 if it has Android✘
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then buy n900 because it has android with dual boot!!!
Why would I want meego / maemo as a second os? I already have android and Ubuntu on GNote.
Believe me its the best 'phone' available in the market.
Boy124 said:
Why would I want meego / maemo as a second os? I already have android and Ubuntu on GNote.
Believe me its the best 'phone' available in the market.
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i started the thread to get answers of my questions , not to debate anyone kindly tell me if galaxy note has those types of apps? I must need them i would be a good member of this comunity when i get my GN.
nicholes said:
i started the thread to get answers of my questions , not to debate anyone kindly tell me if galaxy note has those types of apps? I must need them i would be a good member of this comunity when i get my GN.
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Your request is very modest. You're asking someone to spend hours trying to establish whether certain apps run on the Note (or Android) or not.
Go visit the Google Market and see for yourself. There's tens of thousands of apps there, covering everything under the sun.
GNote can be rooted, that I can tell you, our future good member.
nicholes said:
i have Nokia n900 and now i am also in seek of something new now! i think i should go for galaxy note.
i would get it if it has....
open ssh
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
H-E-N
xterminal
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
vnc viwer
and root access and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
can anyone confirm for me?
you can google al the apps (since i am not allowed to post links here)
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i came from an n900 too, was a good swap.
you can use something like eset mobile security for your sms con stuff. more or less the same thing, can remote wipe, remote lock, remote GPS, etc. although samsungdive.com will give you similar control via a web browser.
no xterminal that i know of, so you cant run 'sudo gainroot' but there are other ways of gaining root. theres a one click root method.
theres another app called 'gotya!' where it snaps a photo of whoever is trying to unlock your device and then emails the photo to you.
backup stuff can be handed via clockworkmod on custom firmwares or via samsung kies software.
there are plenty of emulators on the android market/google play or whatever its called now.
multitasking on android isnt as efficient as on the n900. on the n900, you have that multitask button, which was pure awesome. on android, by default the nearest thing we have is if you press and hold the home key, you can see the last bunch of recent apps, it doesnt tell you if its running or not. there was a visual task switcher on the market that ran similar to the n900 multitask method, but it doesnt run on anything newer than froyo. the next best thing would be something like 'smart task switcher'.
dunno about the other stuff you've mentioned though.
Hi Nicholes,
openssh - yes, there are several free ssh client apps, but better terminal emulator pro (£2.49) gets best reviews. I haven't tried ssh on the note myself (yet!) - I used it on n900 at first but soon replaced with openvpn which met my needs better. I've setup openvpn on my note (requires root and a custom kernel with tun.ko) it runs very nicely.
smscon - partial: samsung offer their own free app for the note, see: http://v2.samsungdive.com/help/guideRemoteControlsClear.do and there are other smilar free apps - however I haven't seen one that offers linux shell command "passthrough" via SMS like the SMScon app does for n900. I used to use reverse ssh to be able to do full remote control of my n900 outwith any apps - it took a while to get that set up to maintain tunnels across wifi/3G changes, and once I had it working I never had cause to use it Anyway, a combination of one of the free remote location pps plus ssh should give you most of what you're used to.
backup menu - I never used it on n900, but if you root the note then you have titanium backup (for apps/data) and CWM (full /system image).
evil alarm - haven't looked, but guaranteed to be one in android market (or should I say "google play" as it's about to be rebranded).
HEN - yes, note has full usb on the go/host mode out of the box, so much easier and more reliable, plug & play
xterminal - yes. plenty of terminal emulators to choose from, I use "terminal emulator". It's not as nice as n900, lacking the h/w keyboard and it doesn't support tab key to autocomplete, but pretty usable.
emulators - gain, no idea but pretty sure there are loads
vnc viewer - yes, I use pocketcloud free - excellent VNC client. The free version only allows one saved connection but that is sufficient for me. THe screen size of the note makes this a far better remote access solution than the n900 (even though I loved presenceVNC, you cant beat some physical real estate for remote access work). There is also 2x client for RDP client access to windows boxes. This is free, has no limitations, and works excellently. Again, better than RDP client on n900 partly due to better/more intuitive mouse/keyboard support but also jsut screen size.
root access - yes, pretty easy to do although some newer firmwares are not directly rootable (need a downgrade->root-> upgrade). Drawbacks to being rooted I've come across: some apps (eg. skygo for UK access to sky TV) don't work with rooted phones unless you jump through hoops;
and how is multitasking on galaxy note? errr ... a bit of a dissapointment after n900! task switching is a bit cumbersome by comparison (though fine once you are used to it) but android tends to arbitrarily remove tasks from memory if you aren't using them which sucks. Also, if you are watching video it's not easy to concurrently do other stuff on android - as soon as you switch away from video, it auto-pauses. that said, the extra RAM makes up to an extent
I'd suggest you re-post this question over at TMO - there is a samsung galaxy note thread there which has been running for a while and there are several active n900/note users on it who know much more than me about android and I think you'll probably get more/better replies there. They are currently discussing an Android video player that allows you to run the video windowed or even minimised
EDIT - oh, just noticed that you've already posted there too ... you're way ahead of me!
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Hi Nicholes,
openssh - yes, there are several free ssh client apps, but better terminal emulator pro (£2.49) gets best reviews. I haven't tried ssh on the note myself (yet!) - I used it on n900 at first but soon replaced with openvpn which met my needs better. I've setup openvpn on my note (requires root and a custom kernel with tun.ko) it runs very nicely.
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I did not find (or manage to compile) openssh for Android. dropbear has much less features (both client and server), so if you use any specific feature that openssh has and dropbear does not have, you might have a problem. I wrote a simple bash script to parse openssh's .ssh/config file and run dropbear with the correct parameters, which gives me a client that behaves similarly to openssh client.
xterminal - yes. plenty of terminal emulators to choose from, I use "terminal emulator". It's not as nice as n900, lacking the h/w keyboard and it doesn't support tab key to autocomplete, but pretty usable.
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Tab completion is not a function of the terminal emulator, but of the shell. The ash shell which is included in busybox in packages such as "terminal emulator" and "sshdroid" does support tab completion. It is not the default login shell, so you need to change the configuration, or run it manually.
nicholes said:
open ssh
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You're not specifying whether you want an SSH client or server. But yes, there are plenty of both on the App Market.
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
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No idea.
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
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Not by default, but you can install Clockworkmod (CWM) to take/restore backups.
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
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No idea.
H-E-N
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Yes, USB OTG is supported. Drive Mount is an application that comes in handy.
xterminal
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No, there is no X.Org and as such no xterminal either. If you're looking for just a terminal emulator then there is one called Better Terminal Emulator Pro that is very good.
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
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No PS2 emulator. Yongzh ( https://slideme.org/user/3168/applications/3168 *) has Genesis, NES, SNES etc.
vnc viwer
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On app market, yes.
and root access
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If you root it then yes.
and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
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Good enough. Less powerful than on N900 as it is limited by Dalvik itself, but anyways.
can anyone confirm for me?
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I just did. Then again, you could have just googled all of these answers yourself.
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nicholes said:
then buy n900 because it has android with dual boot!!!
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NITdroid is not useable, it lacks way too many features on N900.
THANKS! for all the great and detailed information. this forum looks my future forum when i got my new GN
Good luck to you. I got you wrong, my bad. I thought you were gonna post how nokia/meego/maego was (?!) better than android. And welcome to the forum.
Boy124 said:
Good luck to you. I got you wrong, my bad. I thought you were gonna post how nokia/meego/maego was (?!) better than android. And welcome to the forum.
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Actually, as a Note owner i would have preferred maemo on my Note. Too bad they dropped it for sucky wp7
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I did the swap and was obsessed with my n900. But the note is far far superior. Its not quite as 'nerdy' as the n900 in my opinion. But does everything I've asked of it. wait until you see the notes screen. Its blinding in comparison to the n900. You wont look back. Trust me. Providing you have some basic technical knowledge (which I assume you do coming from the Nokia) you will have no trouble rooting and playing with kernels. Etc. It seems to me that the devs for the note and for android in general provide more complete packages than I experienced on the n900. Kernels are optimized and roms have all the tweaks you would want applied. Where the n900 was more of a manual affair messing with the terminal (which I did love doing). I barely use the terminal now as most apps are very well written and have all the tweaks and features you need for customizing without the nitty gritty of line by line and scripts in the n900. Just my opinion though!
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and how is multitasking on galaxy note? errr ... a bit of a dissapointment after n900! task switching is a bit cumbersome by comparison (though fine once you are used to it) but android tends to arbitrarily remove tasks from memory if you aren't using them which sucks. Also, if you are watching video it's not easy to concurrently do other stuff on android - as soon as you switch away from video, it auto-pauses. that said, the extra RAM makes up to an extent
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Also completely agree with the above.
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While on this issue, is there a replacement for Mappero (maemo-mapper)? The features I miss in Google Maps compared to Mappero are:
On map tracking (including display of track length).
Display of route length/route distance remaining.
Precaching of maps by coordinates or along routes.
Saving of routes (for using without internet access.
You've got many answers on the app side of questions so i'll just say this. I too came from the n900 and i am very disappointed with the multitasking. I also completely agree with _pigro_.
There isnt much else im not happy with though. The size is phoenominal!
Do it you will be happy. Rooting and custom rom fun galore!
How's that for multitasking on the note?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532980
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mfractal said:
How's that for multitasking on the note?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532980
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Sure it is capable of running lots at the same time but the actual handling of multitasking on android is far inferior.
Dont get me wrong, i am impressed with android, but i expected better multitasking. I have also experienced closing of apps that i left running but most of the time its seems ok and i can get used to it as the note is impressive in every other way.
The n900 also gave live thumbnails of apps when switching which still impressed me for the two years after my contract ended that i kept the n900 for. Such a good phone for its time.
nicholes said:
i have Nokia n900 and now i am also in seek of something new now! i think i should go for galaxy note.
i would get it if it has....
open ssh
app like smscon(control mobile via sms) (ie deleting files call a yourself, snap thief photo)
backup menu(keep rootfs and and installed software inulding OS)
evil alarm(an alarm which does not go off unless doing a task complete)
H-E-N
xterminal
emulatores(ie ps2.sega genesis)
vnc viwer
and root access and how is multitasking on galaxy note?
can anyone confirm for me?
you can google al the apps (since i am not allowed to post links here)
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I had a N900 before i bought a SGS2 and now have both SGS2 and Note!
The answer to your questions:
Q: Open ssh?
A: Don't need this!
Q: app like smscon?
A: Use Avast Anti-Theft!
Q: backup menu?
A: CWM!
Q: evil alarm!
A: Lot's of apps that do that!
Q: H-e-n?
A: On The Go (OTG) USB is supported by all versions of Gingerbread and ICS! No extra app for that is needed!
Q: xterminal?
A: MANY, MANY,MANY terminals for free in Market lol
Q: emulatores?
A: PS1, N64, etc etc etc.. all available in Market!
Q: vnc viewer?
A: Yep this too.. and you can emulate Linux and Backtrack 5
Root access is available to all devices that i know and multitasking works like a charm
Go get it!!! It's worth it and believe me, i loved my N900 and i love my Note even more!
Everything you dream you could do on N900 you can do on Note and more!
MatanZ said:
While on this issue, is there a replacement for Mappero (maemo-mapper)? The features I miss in Google Maps compared to Mappero are:
On map tracking (including display of track length).
Display of route length/route distance remaining.
Precaching of maps by coordinates or along routes.
Saving of routes (for using without internet access.
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Use sygic! Works like a charm on Note!
Hi all,
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate what can and what cannot be done with the iPhone & Gear combination.
Let me first describe my experience so far, for anyone who may be interested. So let's say you want to use the Gear with your iPhone:
First of all you need to have null ROM on the Gear (see respective thread). I have null 15.
You go to full settings and then bluetooth and make the watch discoverable.
Then you go to the iPhone and search for devices (not the other way around).
What works:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality.
They couple OK and this is it. You have a glorified 300 euro BT handsfree in the shape of a wristwatch!
2) Internet tethering via BT.
If your iPhone carrier settings do support tethering you can also tether the Gear via BT to the iPhone. I have seen that the tethering process works but unfortunately i was in an area of no signal when i did the test (don't have an iPhone right now) so there is no hard evidence. I mean i did not see a webpage loading but i think that tethering is actually device independent. Someone please confirm.
What doesn't work:
1) Notifications (which renders the added value of the whole smartwatch concept kind of questionable)
2) An automated or even manual (but no PC/cloud involved) way to transfer photos/vids taken with the Gear camera to the iPhone.
3) Caller ID with name. I have extensively tried this with both an iPhone 4 and a 5S both on iOS7 and both not jailbroken and when a call is received i only saw the number even if the caller was in the contact list of the iPhone and the native contact list on the Gear itself.
I am searching for a solution for bullets 2 and 3, since i will swap my S4 for a 5S very soon but i do intend to keep the Gear for the time being.
Any comment/personal experience/help will be greatly appreciated.
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
As of June 11, 2014 XDA member @Accounti provided the first (and only so far) solution, regarding iPhone & Gear cooperation.
Ladied and Gents, please welcome CloudNotifier Cydia tweak.
All notifications from jailbroken iPhone can be sent via Web to the Gear (and many other devices, as it is web based). It is not a direct BT connection, therefore NULL ROM is required so that BT tethering is enabled.
I would like to personally congratulate @Accounti for his work and kindly ask that relative posts are done in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784802
Please let us continue in this thread regarding the iPhone & Gear connection methods.
i tested everything all the day. I can confirm, it works, tethering it's fine, browsing, play store access, email, also I installed Whatsapp and using it.
A problem with this, after some minuts the internet connection become "on demand" so if you receive for example a whatsapp message you don't receive immediately the notification but you will receive the first time you connect to something (for example browsing a page or sending an email).
I'm searching a way to keep internet connection alive or to wake it every 15 minutes just to have live messaging with whatsapp.
I can confirm the problem with the caller Id, i think the problem it's that the iPhone does not push contacts to gear when you pair, and when a call comes the gear look not in the contacts list but in the pairing contacts, that is empty...
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Another problem, set every volume in gear to zero, only vibrating, iPhone is in silent mode to, when a call comes the Gear makes the ringtone anyway. It's a bad problem for me cause i can't use ringtone at work...
NZ, you do realize all this device needs is an app to communicate with. It is completely possible to make the Gear work with an iPhone.
Someone with some decent IOS App writing skills could make this work.
Stop filling this thread with your nonsense.
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@gidi, did you try bluetooth transfering your files to your iPhone from the Gear ?
Not sure iOS supports bluetooth file transfers, but it should work.. along with bluetooth sharing contacts I believe, I activated that service too
fOmey said:
@gidi, did you try bluetooth transfering your files to your iPhone from the Gear ?
Not sure iOS supports bluetooth file transfers, but it should work.. along with bluetooth sharing contacts I believe, I activated that service too
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@fOmey unfortunately i do not have an iPhone right now. Maybe will have the 5S within the day and then i will test and get back to the thread.
However, BT file transfer is a no go on an iPhone that is not jailbroken. Truth is that iOS 7 is a little more relaxed compared to older iOSs but i cannot confirm anything.
With a JB iPhone it may be a totally different story, however. There is tweak called BTnotificationenabler that transfers ALL push notifications through BT.
Could you please check what the profiles that the Gear supports are? Also, could you add more profiles, just in case?
Thank you dude!
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@fOmey unfortunately i do not have an iPhone right now. Maybe will have the 5S within the day and then i will test and get back to the thread.
However, BT file transfer is a no go on an iPhone that is not jailbroken. Truth is that iOS 7 is a little more relaxed compared to older iOSs but i cannot confirm anything.
With a JB iPhone it may be a totally different story, however. There is tweak called BTnotificationenabler that transfers ALL push notifications through BT.
Could you please check what the profiles that the Gear supports are? Also, could you add more profiles, just in case?
Thank you dude!
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That's a shame about the bluetooth transfer, although ! The bluetooth notifications is quite interesting.
What profile do you require for the bluetooth notifications ? As for adding new profiles.. I can activate additional services which have been included already, although it's kind of hit and miss if they will work ! .. If it's some weird proprietary services sadly no.
I have included majority of the useful ones already..
Hi Everyone,
I did a little thread cleaning. I think that this thread is perfect for xda. Although xda usually doesn't support iPhone development, I think most of the development here will need to be done on the Galaxy Gear side. As long as people are willing to help and test ideas, I say go for it!
Thanks!
fOmey said:
That's a shame about the bluetooth transfer, although ! The bluetooth notifications is quite interesting.
What profile do you require for the bluetooth notifications ? As for adding new profiles.. I can activate additional services which have been included already, although it's kind of hit and miss if they will work ! .. If it's some weird proprietary services sadly no.
I have included majority of the useful ones already..
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fOmey i will search a little and get back to you.
I will alsotry to get in touch with a dev who has managed to make wonders with iPhone and Pebble.
Thing is, if some basic functionality can be achieved, then the Gear market will truly expand. There are many iPhone users who would love to use the Gear.
UPDATE: It might also be worth it if you could take a look at this: http://support.imwatch.it/downloads/
I have used the imwatch in the past and it can work both with iOS and Android.
Appart from the tethering function, i remember that when pairing with iPhone a special BT profile (do not remember it's name) was utilised that allowed the imwatch to download the whole iPhone contact list over BT.
Actually the Gear is all the imwatch was ever hoping to be and maybe some more!
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Hi Everyone,
I did a little thread cleaning. I think that this thread is perfect for xda. Although xda usually doesn't support iPhone development, I think most of the development here will need to be done on the Galaxy Gear side. As long as people are willing to help and test ideas, I say go for it!
Thanks!
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Absolutely, the work is on the Gear side, cause iPhone already use the Pebble or the I'm Watch, so it's the Gear that is missing something. Thank you
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gidi said:
fOmey i will search a little and get back to you.
I will alsotry to get in touch with a dev who has managed to make wonders with iPhone and Pebble.
Thing is, if some basic functionality can be achieved, then the Gear market will truly expand. There are many iPhone users who would love to use the Gear.
UPDATE: It might also be worth it if you could take a look at this: http://support.imwatch.it/downloads/
I have used the imwatch in the past and it can work both with iOS and Android.
Appart from the tethering function, i remember that when pairing with iPhone a special BT profile (do not remember it's name) was utilised that allowed the imwatch to download the whole iPhone contact list over BT.
Actually the Gear is all the imwatch was ever hoping to be and maybe some more!
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Good idea Man! Look into the I'm Watch firmware is good, the profile used for sms is the Message Access Profile (MAP).
No way to save contacts manually, the Gear see it as empty. Is there a possibility to modify directly the contact file?
fOmey maybe you know witch is the right file
Just talked to fOmey in the chatroom of his website.
I informed him that jb for iOS 7 is out.
Now the news: fOmey has an iPhone also and i am trying to convince him to invest/waste some time trying to make the Gear - iPhone combination work.
Told him about the BTNotificationEnabler tweak (https://github.com/conradev/BTNotificationEnabler) and the MAP profile that is being used and he said that his ROM may already be supporting it.
If there is anyone with an iPhone and a Gear who wants to see the combination really work, please post to this thread. It could provide some motivation for fOmey!
I know he can do it if he decides to spend some time working on it.
gidi said:
Just talked to fOmey in the chatroom of his website.
I informed him that jb for iOS 7 is out.
Now the news: fOmey has an iPhone also and i am trying to convince him to invest/waste some time trying to make the Gear - iPhone combination work.
Told him about the BTNotificationEnabler tweak (https://github.com/conradev/BTNotificationEnabler) and the MAP profile that is being used and he said that his ROM may already be supporting it.
If there is anyone with an iPhone and a Gear who wants to see the combination really work, please post to this thread. It could provide some motivation for fOmey!
I know he can do it if he decides to spend some time working on it.
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I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
Robotblog said:
I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
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I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
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I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
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It's auto-enabled when you turn bt on? Because when an sms arrive nothing happens, and from iPhone side it's always turned on.
fOmey maybe you can make some test with your iPhone
Robotblog said:
I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
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Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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If it doesnt work already, wait for the next version of my rom.
fOmey said:
I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
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fOmey my man if i got this correctly then the MSE (server side) profile should be enabled on the iPhone and the MCE (client side) should be enabled on the Gear.
However, "The MCE device shall use the services of the MSE device only after successfully creating a secure connection", which kind of concerns me.
But again, in fOmey we trust for everything Gear related.
gidi said:
fOmey my man if i got this correctly then the MSE (server side) profile should be enabled on the iPhone and the MCE (client side) should be enabled on the Gear.
However, "The MCE device shall use the services of the MSE device only after successfully creating a secure connection", which kind of concerns me.
But again, in fOmey we trust for everything Gear related.
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I activate both profiles in the next version.. so regardless what is requires it should be available.
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I activate both profiles in the next version.. so regardless what is requires it should be available.
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Thank you fOmey!!!
gidi said:
Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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I'll do JB in a few days on 4s but only for btnotenab, cause forma the SMS si already in ios
Any workaround for the caller id issue?
With calling id names and MAP the Gear could be the perfect device.
Hi, I bought a Lenovo Smart Clock with the google assistant,
Here are some details from the box:
Wifi Hemp Grey 1G+8G
Lenovo Smart Clock
Model: Lenovo CD-24501F
Lenovo CD-24501F 1G+8GGRW-CA
CPU MediaTek * MT81675
Display 3.97 inch 480*800 WVGA IPS
Memory LP DDR3 1GB
WLAN 802.11 A/B/G/N/AC+BT5.0
OS Android things w/ Google Assistant
Battery No Battery
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After setting it up and trying it for a few days I looked around online and I don't see much specifically about this device and if it can be modified or accessed in unconventional ways. can we root it? I would love to be able to cast to it youtube etc. HDMI out anyone? Has anyone else tinkered with it yet? The '1G+8G' marking on the box seems to suggest it has a 1GB of flash presuming to be for the android things OS and another 8GB of flash for apps or media or caches?
Here is details from the Google Home App:
System Firmware Version: OIMF.191015.004
Cast Firmware Verstion: 1.42.180336
Google Assistant Smart Clock application version: 6.27.8+prod.1.1.0.5961405
Language: English (Canada)
Country Code: CA
IP Address: 192.168.1.100
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Info from the foot on the bottom (SN obfuscated):
Lenovo Smart Clock Model: Lenovo CD-24501F
Manufactured for Lenovo PC HK Limited Factory ID: LCHZ
FCC ID: O57CD24501F IC: 10407A-CD24501F Made in China
CAN ICES-3 (B)/NMB-3(B) S/N: ########-## Mfg: 2019-10-30
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Here is NMAP of its ip address:
8008/tcp open http
8009/tcp open ajp13
8443/tcp open https-alt
9000/tcp open cslistener
10001/tcp open scp-config
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The price was pretty low, $50CAD at best buy, I cant wait to see what people can do to hack it. Other smart displays seem to have USB/ADB/Fastboot connections, I havnt found one on this device yet.
I too would like to see some custom stuff on this cool little clock.
Yessss! It would be nice!
Open smartclock
Hi,
Does anyone know how to open this smartclock thanks.
Regards
Bob
We haven't hacked any google assistant devices yet that I know off, in fact, I dont think we even hacked android things yet. I am sure there is somebody that is trying to hack android things. Btw, youtube can be watched on the clock, by going to something like the weather page > taping weather.com > going to the menu > download app, clicking on the download on the app store logo, going to the menu, support, go to apple support youtube channel, taping the YouTube icon. It's only in 480p, I tried it, I would rather watch on my phone or tablet, also the video will stop and the clock will go back to home if you wait to long without touching the screen or wake up the google assistant. Other than that. Playback is smooth.
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snipes420 said:
Hi, I bought a Lenovo Smart Clock with the google assistant,
Here are some details from the box:
After setting it up and trying it for a few days I looked around online and I don't see much specifically about this device and if it can be modified or accessed in unconventional ways. can we root it? I would love to be able to cast to it youtube etc. HDMI out anyone? Has anyone else tinkered with it yet? The '1G+8G' marking on the box seems to suggest it has a 1GB of flash presuming to be for the android things OS and another 8GB of flash for apps or media or caches?
Here is details from the Google Home App:
Info from the foot on the bottom (SN obfuscated):
Here is NMAP of its ip address:
The price was pretty low, $50CAD at best buy, I cant wait to see what people can do to hack it. Other smart displays seem to have USB/ADB/Fastboot connections, I havnt found one on this device yet.
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I plugged in an android device to the clock, and it came up with some message, I dont remember what itsaid, it was either for adb debugging or transferring files over usb. I think it was transfering files over usb. The usb port does allow data transfer. Plugging in a USB mouse will make a mouse show up and can move for example.
It probably isn't much but you can go to ip.of.smart.clock:8008/setup/eureka_info in a web browser to view the basic info of the device
Home Assistant
It could be great to have some custom home assistant displayed on smart clock screen instead of clock
Apparently it's possible to plug in a keyboard and/or mouse to it via the USB port on the back (a cursor will appear).
Just got one of these myself today. Best Buy had em for 40 bucks. Quite the awesome little thing. I'm really surprised I can't find much for it.
I'll see if maybe I can buy a second one to purposely "break" (just in case), and see if I can get anything working on it. The little screen is good quality and has great sound. Would be cool for a mini emulation station of some kind
Update: Realized mine doesn't have the usb-c port under the rubber feet like other's have stated here its supposed to. Really don't wanna tear into the carpeting around it. I have the exact same model as first post
Plugging in a usb keyboard works for typing
update 2: navigated my way to youtube and tried downloading an apk from a direct link, downloads don't work period
update 3: can not get device recognized by a pc via plugging in USB port on the back to a USB-C port on my laptop, also tried USB-A to USB-A, no results
Update 4 lol: Unlocked the bootloader, had to have device manager search online for the driver, but it found it and installed it just fine. to unlock the bootloader, simply type
Code:
fastboot flashing unlock
KaptinBoxxi said:
Update 4 lol: Unlocked the bootloader, had to have device manager search online for the driver, but it found it and installed it just fine. to unlock the bootloader, simply type
Code:
fastboot flashing unlock
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Hello KaptinBoxxi,
How did you manage to unlock the bootloader, did you use ADB on computer via USB? or directly via a pluged in keyboard?
I'm a bit new to all of those types of hack but I'm very interested in getting into that since this device is small, cheap, good quality and could be a perfect smart display if there was any abilities to extend the frontend to better use cases.
Thanks
gussir said:
Hello KaptinBoxxi,
How did you manage to unlock the bootloader, did you use ADB on computer via USB? or directly via a pluged in keyboard?
I'm a bit new to all of those types of hack but I'm very interested in getting into that since this device is small, cheap, good quality and could be a perfect smart display if there was any abilities to extend the frontend to better use cases.
Thanks
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Fastboot via computer. Although, if this is the first device you're picking up, I'd recommend it not be. No one's really done much with cracking/hacking Android Things (the version of Android that runs on this) as it isn't a full version of android. Its heavily stripped down. Grab an old phone that has a ton of support for modding/hacking but isn't exactly the easiest and do that. I'd recommend a Sprint variant of the HTC One M7 if you want a real challenge. I had to find my own custom method to S-OFF the device, unlock the bootloader, then ROM it and root it as no tutorials worked that were currently up and I wasn't willing to pay to unlock it. If that sounds a little too high end for now, get something like an unlock Galaxy S4 or Verizon Galaxy S5 and hope its a Toshiba model so you can unlock the bootloader
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Fastboot via computer. Although, if this is the first device you're picking up, I'd recommend it not be. No one's really done much with cracking/hacking Android Things (the version of Android that runs on this) as it isn't a full version of android. Its heavily stripped down. Grab an old phone that has a ton of support for modding/hacking but isn't exactly the easiest and do that. I'd recommend a Sprint variant of the HTC One M7 if you want a real challenge. I had to find my own custom method to S-OFF the device, unlock the bootloader, then ROM it and root it as no tutorials worked that were currently up and I wasn't willing to pay to unlock it. If that sounds a little too high end for now, get something like an unlock Galaxy S4 or Verizon Galaxy S5 and hope its a Toshiba model so you can unlock the bootloader
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Thanks a lot for your feedback, I'll start on with something easier and will definitively follow along with this thread to see how the hacking of this device is evolving. have a good day
KaptinBoxxi said:
Just got one of these myself today. Best Buy had em for 40 bucks. Quite the awesome little thing. I'm really surprised I can't find much for it.
I'll see if maybe I can buy a second one to purposely "break" (just in case), and see if I can get anything working on it. The little screen is good quality and has great sound. Would be cool for a mini emulation station of some kind
Update: Realized mine doesn't have the usb-c port under the rubber feet like other's have stated here its supposed to. Really don't wanna tear into the carpeting around it. I have the exact same model as first post
Plugging in a usb keyboard works for typing
update 2: navigated my way to youtube and tried downloading an apk from a direct link, downloads don't work period
update 3: can not get device recognized by a pc via plugging in USB port on the back to a USB-C port on my laptop, also tried USB-A to USB-A, no results
Update 4 lol: Unlocked the bootloader, had to have device manager search online for the driver, but it found it and installed it just fine. to unlock the bootloader, simply type
Code:
fastboot flashing unlock
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Were you able to use adb?
I found a deal on this device and am debating if I should buy it. The thing is, I wanna run Spotify on it without voice commands. ;D
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Were you able to use adb?
I found a deal on this device and am debating if I should buy it. The thing is, I wanna run Spotify on it without voice commands. ;D
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You can use a Python Library called Pychromecast to remotely play media on it.
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You can use a Python Library called Pychromecast to remotely play media on it.
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Thank you for the recommendation. I actually meant that I want to control the music from the screen, though. : )
Installing Spotify should probably be possible if adb is working. But, I would still need to figure out some way to launch Spotify without opening the app over adb every time.
I have posted development related resources over in this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/co...me/lenovo-smart-clock-bootloader-avb-t4130295
Can anyone tell me how install hindi support for the Google assistant?
Hello folks. I've been reading a lot to fix this issue but no luck yet so I come to you. I have a Pixel 4XL running android 11, and a smartwatch brand Haylou Ls05, with the apk Haylou Fit.
The thing is I cant set the proper permissions to use the location services in the background. Mi GF has a android 10 phone and no problem.
I already tested everything I founded over the internet and nothing works. When I start running, the app goes good until the screens is off and the tracking of the running gets lost.
Any suggestion? Thanks in advance!!
Are you running without your phone? This watch doesn't have any GPS chip or functionality, so it is not going to track your location or track your your route by itself. Sorry if this was obvious already but I don't know what your use case is. On Android 10/11 you can control the location use on a per-app basis. If your watch app uses the newest API and supports this function, you will see under the Haylou Fit app permissions>>location the following: (Allow all the time/Allow only when using the app/Ask every time/ Deny). If you don't see this option in your app settings then the app itself needs to be updated. It's not the phone that is the issue, but the app. See the screenshot attached. Android 10 has this same functionality, so I'm not sure why your GF's is working correctly and yours is not. You may try removing and re-installing? Please post a screenshot of what you are seeing under location permissions for this app. Cheers.
Thanks very much for your answer. Yes, I run with the cellphone to use the gps of it because the watch does not have gps. Sorry i'm not very familiar with API, but I understand now that it is a problem of the app itself and not of android. My screenshot doesn't show the "allow all the time" item, as i would like to.
Any way to force it? like patching the app o magisk or something I could do? I like this watch very much , its small and light, and would really like to be able to use it..
Thanks you for the answer.
Agustín.
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Thanks very much for your answer. Yes, I run with the cellphone to use the gps of it because the watch does not have gps. Sorry i'm not very familiar with API, but I understand now that it is a problem of the app itself and not of android. My screenshot doesn't show the "allow all the time" item, as i would like to.
Any way to force it? like patching the app o magisk or something I could do? I like this watch very much , its small and light, and would really like to be able to use it..
Thanks you for the answer. Agustín.
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Not that I know of. I still would like to know why the app it works on your GF's phone (10) and not yours (11) because they both have the same location security options. Is the "always" option available on hers, or is it working on the "when app is running"? Running the same version? This may be related to the API used by the app and until the dev updates it, it will not work. Try contacting the dev? Contact info is available on the Google Play Store.
Hi all, i am a deaf person that is a owner of a Redmi Note 11 (rooted and using magisk - actually using EvolutionX a12, tried also a13 it don't recognize these) actually use audika earaid that are both compatible with blueetoth with iphone and android, but only stream audio direct, only with iphone.
On their site is write only this:
With an iPhone or iPad, you can now use your Oticon More, Zircon or Play PX * hearing aids to make or receive hands-free phone or video calls.
Hands-free communication is available with iPhone 11 or later, 12.9-inch iPad Pro (5th and 4th generation), 11-inch iPad Pro (3rd and 2nd generation), iPad Air (4th generation), and iPad mini (6th generation) ) generation), with iOS 15.2 and iPadOS 15.2 or later software updates.
Now enjoy the simple convenience of hands-free calling when you prefer. With your hands free, you can talk to your family, friends and colleagues when on the go.
* Other Oticon hearing aids require firmware 1.3.0 to enable hands-free communication functionality.
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On android i can connect my ear aid but only use it as volume controller via app, and these are not recognized as audio devices, my hearing care professional say that android and audika have a licensing issue and it don't have make it work with these
My question if is possible via some hacking or stuff make these work via dark magic, without forcing me buying a iphone....
Would be glad if somesone will help me with this.
malachiel said:
Hi all, i am a deaf person that is a owner of a Redmi Note 11 (rooted and using magisk - actually using EvolutionX a12, tried also a13 it don't recognize these) actually use audika earaid that are both compatible with blueetoth with iphone and android, but only stream audio direct, only with iphone.
On their site is write only this:
On android i can connect my ear aid but only use it as volume controller via app, and these are not recognized as audio devices, my hearing care professional say that android and audika have a licensing issue and it don't have make it work with these
My question if is possible via some hacking or stuff make these work via dark magic, without forcing me buying a iphone....
Would be glad if somesone will help me with this.
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Hi malachiel, I am a partial deaf person and a hearing aid user. I had the similar problem with my mobile until recently managed to make it work with my RealMeX device.
With your explanation I suspect your device tree (audio_policy_configuration.xml) doesnt have the hearing aid configurations hence you are not able to stream audio to your ear aid. as of my knowledge there is nothing called license issue as Android is an open-source.
I can help you but need few thing from your device to analysis the issue if you are comfortable sharing.
before that try this first
turn on the bluetooth option
Goto Accessibility and see if your hearing aid option appears (usually that option appears only bluetooth is turned on else it will get hidden - refer attached screenshot)
if option is their then try to pair your hearingaids.
if successfully paired then try to play a song from local music file and see if audio streaming works (calling may not work due to some other bug which i will explain later)
if above doesnt work or hearing aid option doesn't appear then try below command from adb ( your device need to be rooted )
get platform tools for adb from link
enable developer option and usb debugging in your device
connect your phone and allow adb permission
open cmd prompt and run below command
adb.exe devices (you should see your device connected, if you dont see then you havent connected properly)
make sure bluetooth is turn on and run below command
adb.exe shell settings put global settings_bluetooth_hearing_aid true
Goto Accessibility and see if your hearing aid option appears; if doesnt come up try restarting
even this doesnt work then you need to pull system/vendor/etc folder and have to share with me, below is the adb cmd to pull the folder
adb.exe pull /vendor/etc/
Please give a try and feel free to reach me incase need any help
AmarnathNR said:
get platform tools for adb from link
enable developer option and usb debugging in your device
connect your phone and allow adb permission
open cmd prompt and run below command
adb.exe devices (you should see your device connected, if you dont see then you havent connected properly)
make sure bluetooth is turn on and run below command
adb.exe shell settings put global settings_bluetooth_hearing_aid true
Goto Accessibility and see if your hearing aid option appears; if doesnt come up try restarting
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Hey mate, thank you for the reply, i was able to enable the ear-aid menu on A12, but it still threat these as normal blueetoth devices and not earaid devices as you can see here, any idea what can i do? I have pmed you the link of this folder too in case if it help with investigation
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Hey mate, thank you for the reply, i was able to enable the ear-aid menu on A12, but it still threat these as normal blueetoth devices and not earaid devices as you can see here, any idea what can i do? I have pmed you the link of this folder too in case if it help with investigation
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Sure, I will check the vendor/etc and revert. Firstly Did u get the hearingaid option enabled by above given command? Or was it there before itself?
The option was not here but your command enabled it (I have to restart for show it)
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option was not here but your command enabled it (I have to restart for show it)
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Gotcha!! that means andriod source flag is set to false. we are forcefully enabling it but may not have the right configs so its not merging two hearing-aid into one rather considering it as regular bluetooth device.
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Gotcha!! thats expect. we are forcefully enabling it but may not have the right configs so its not merging two hearing-aid into one rather considering it as regular bluetooth device.
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It might be that so, any solution for make it working?
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The option was not here but your command enabled it (I have to restart for show it)
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your device etc folder has HA configs to stream audio. BTW did you try to connect your HA devices via hearing aid option in accessibility? once you tap it will show HA as normal BT device only upon pairing it will identify and resolve as HA device.
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It might be that so, any solution for make it working?
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Well I am not an expert but I can help with my limited knowledge.
I uses Cherish Custom ROM and their device source has this flag enabled. one option if you can find CherishOS ROM for you device https://github.com/CherishOS
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your device etc folder has HA configs to stream audio. BTW did you try to connect your HA devices via hearing aid option in accessibility? once you tap it will show HA as normal BT device only upon pairing it will identify and resolve as HA device.
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Yeah I tried, It keep to treat as Bluetooth devices
AmarnathNR said:
Well I am not an expert but I can help with my limited knowledge.
I uses Cherish Custom ROM and their device source has this flag enabled. one option if you can find CherishOS ROM for you device https://github.com/CherishOS
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I don't think it will make it work,I also tried evolutionx a13 that have earaid support enabled but it still threat my earaid as Bluetooth devices (android 13)
malachiel said:
Yeah I tried, It keep to treat as Bluetooth devices
I don't think it will make it work,I also tried evolutionx a13 that have earaid support enabled but it still threat my earaid as Bluetooth devices (android 13)
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An Android AOSP Source, Device Tree, Vendor Tree, Kernel Tree.
in Android10 Google has introduced ASHA protocol so code is there but how it works is by injecting the configs from Device tree and Device tree's are specific to each device(s) vendor specific so bottomline custom rom dev should enable these config in Device tree so it picks up OS. Even for me i tried many custom ROM and had the same issue what you are facing and then fianally when I installed chreishOS then recognized as HA but call audio were streming then wrote a magisk module to have right config and finally worked
can you try this magisk module, I have all the BT HA configs in it. it will replace your existing vendor/etc configs; try on A13 OS
AmarnathNR said:
Well I am not an expert but I can help with my limited knowledge.
I uses Cherish Custom ROM and their device source has this flag enabled. one option if you can find CherishOS ROM for you device https://github.com/CherishOS
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i will give a shoot with this, which version are you using? i see there are multiple version
malachiel said:
i will give a shoot with this, which version are you using? i see there are multiple version
View attachment 5735217
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Currently I am using A13 4.0 but I have tried Cherish 3.8 and HA was working in it. going for the latest release build.
if you are reflashing then first try without my magisk module.. check if it works
Also dont run any of those earlier given commands. just turn on the BT and check if hearing aid option comes up in Accessibility
So Cherish-OS-v3.8-20220621-1319-spes-OFFICIAL-GApps.zip ?
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So Cherish-OS-v3.8-20220621-1319-spes-OFFICIAL-GApps.zip ?
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yes go for it.
Also dont run any of those earlier given commands. just turn on the BT and check if hearing aid option comes up in Accessibility
but that version which android is?
malachiel said:
but that version which android is?
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mostly A12. HA will work in it too. I have used it.
I hope you have verified that the package is built specially for your device
it fail to download around at 50% around, saying denied or network error
malachiel said:
it fail to download around at 50% around, saying denied or network error
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Server is up.. it downloaded within 2mins for me. try download manager