Recently, my phone keeps complaining that is running LOW on space - despite deleting infrequenct USER apps - it seems to keep getting into the same state . From the storage memory option I see approx 6G for firmware & ~7G for Apps which should be leaving 3G free on the 16G capacity, however only getting ~500MB free.
I have tried using ADB shell commands along with App Inspector to get the package names to allow deletion of system apps which I do not need. eg pm uninstall -k --user 0 <package name> - while this works , when I go back into the App list - it shows as uninstalled , however it seems to be retaining space for the App - so not convinced the uninstall is working fully.
Any suggestions on how to get the space unallocated again ? Its as though something is eating up spare capacity I free up to become locked/hidden !!
Any suggestions as to why disparity between ~13G for firmware/Apps vs 16G ( NB I have a 64GB sdcard installed for any data/photos/music etc)
Uninstalled packages / retained storage space
Gmail 77MB
Google text to speech 52MB
HMS core 135MB
Huawei Video 192MB
Support 75MB
Swiftkey keyboard 36MB
Expected the total of 567MB to be made available - but alas no.
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I have task killer set to ignore two applications: Battery Widget and Weather Widget (donation version).
I've rooted my phone and am running Cyanogen 4.0.1 with Ted's hero theme. And I've formatted my SD to have FAT32, EXT3, and Linux Swap partitions and have my apps installed to my SD.
However, when I use taskiller to close all my applications I'm usually left with only 28 to 30 M free. Sometimes I'll only have 26 M or all the way up to 33 M left. Is this normal?
How much memory do you guys have left after you kill your tasks? Are my numbers low enough to make you think I've not partitioned my SD correctly or something else?
I feel like my phone should be much much faster than it was before I rooted it, but I don't see the huge improvements many people seem to.
Any help is appreciated.
yeah, I have questioned this too. I use Advanced Task Manager with 2 apps excluded. I usually am at 41 MB when all are ended. Prior to rooting this was in the 50's. I assume it is because the ROM has used some of this memory?
I also seem to have a lot less internal memory than others. I have 54MB when I go review my memory under settings. Not sure how others are in the 70-80 MB range. I clear cache frequently.
Also have 3 partitions 7.5GB/500MB/32MB
to the OP - have you deleted the cache of programs like browser, google maps?
I'm not sure how. I'd love to delete both of those and a few others (voice dialing I will never use you!!). I've gone into the apps manager but it won't let me uninstall them.
Yes, I'm a complete noob at this .
One thing I may have done wrong. I didn't reflash my cyanogen rom after formatting my SD. Could that be a problem?
Nagh, the rom would do it on the next reboot... go to menu... settings... sd card and phone storage. It should show all memory there (including second partition).
To delete cache, go to menu... settings... applications... app manager.
Click on browser, scroll down and delete cache. How much was there?
There wasn't much. It was like 1 to 1.5 megs, but it's gone now. I also set my gmail sync down to 1 day and cleared out it's data. Still though, my phone just feels like it's not getting the big speed upgrades others talk about.
I am hoping someone else will chime in on the low memory reported by task killer/manager in our cases.
How much internal memory were you showing under settings and removing cache?
You can sort the app manager by size too (of course the apps are on your sd card) but the cache is not.
I take it you confirmed your partitions were working?
They seem to be working. I've got 486 MB for my ext3 partition and only 413 available. I'm assuming 73 MB are being used by my programs.
I have 64 MB of internal phone storage available. I don't know what it was before.
I also have 5 desktops with a lot of icons on each one, plus I have a background that is about twice as wide as normal (1067x480 vs 640x480). Still the background is only 70k.
If you want to delete stock apps
Code:
adb remount
adb shell
cd system/app
ls
This will let you see the actual names of apps. From there you can just rm -r them as usual
example
Code:
rm -r VoiceDialer.apk
rm -r com.amazon.mp3.apk
rm -r VoiceSearch.apk
rm -r LatinIME.apk
Don't forget to clear your dalvik-cache after you done nuking stuff!!!
Code:
rm -r system/sd/dalvik-cache
mkdir system/sd/dalvik-cache
You can do all of this from terminal as well but adb make is much easier.
@ OP. I too have only 28-33MB of free ram after closing most of my widgets but I think it's pretty normal as too much free memory means too much wasted memory. And you will not see HUGE improvements in speed neither... there's only so much developers can do. What Cyan is trying to do is to introduce new features (global search, vpn, exchange) without bogging down the system (and doing a great job at it IMHO).
Good luck
^ that is an awesome post. Thank you for that.
Thanks a ton for that. Very helpful post. If I won't see any speed improvements by uninstalling apps I'll just pass on doing that.
Are there any ways I could see speed improvements beyond what Cyanogen already provides?
Limit the amount of desktops, and limit the use of widgets. Power wideget from donut seemed to use a lot of ram and slow things down a little.
why are you people confusing internal storage with system ram?
The information available under settings/sdcard-phone storage/available space reffers to the space available in the /data partition of your phone. Wether you have 1 or 100 (well, 89) mb free in this partition is irrelevant to your phone's performance. All that gets written to this partition is installed apps (not part of the system), dalvik-cache (for ADP or AOSP based roms that don't have their classes pre-compiled), and user data and settings.
People who have 70-89 mb free in that partition are using a2sd, data2sd, and cache to sd, which, imho, is a flippin waste because the internal nand is a lot faster than the bottlenecked bus for the sd card and it's just going to waste if you're not using it. Nothing, i repeat NOTHING is gained by having a free data partition (much like having free space in system which is never going to be used).
Your system has 192 mb of RAM, which is the actual working memory of the device, of those 192, only 90 are available to the dalvik VM, which is the Android part of your phone. This ram can be checked using "free" (if your build has busybox) at the terminal, and this will tell you how much ram is being used by the system, along with how much swap space (if you're using it) is being used. The used ram space fills up fast, and that's a good thing, because unused RAM is wasted RAM. Linux manages things and drops processes as required (to a swap file if available) to free up ram for processes that require it.
To keep your phone running smootly, I'd recomend a reboot every night (when you put your phone to charge). Android is full of memory leaks that have to be fixed, and until they're worked out, the 90 mb ram you have available is all you have to go with (unless you use swap, but one should never really consider that space memory anyway)
The biggest performance difference I've seen has been to shut down my battery widget. After I did that phone's responsiveness has been great.
Just attempted to install the Adobe Air APK and I've received a warning that the phone doesn't have enough storage available.
I wouldn't say I have a load of apps installed, the "available storage" was showing at ~ 12mb free - it's now up to ~49mb after un-installing some apps and moving others to the SD card.
Question is though - how much application storage memory does the N1 actually have? I thought with froyo we gained a little more memory (can't quite remember whether that affected the application memory as well)
Checking over the installed apps list there's noting that stands out as huge - Flash 10 is the largest at 12mb.
Sort of technical question, as this goes into CM6.1 and mem management.
I have the original Droid, Verizon. I had it rooted for a while and recently finally installed CM6.1 (stable release).
Issue 1: Free memory
I am having background services constantly killed by the system whenever ANY app is loaded, with exception of map and music. I thought CM6.1 would solve it but it did for only 2 days. Both DiskUsage and Settings / SD card and storage shows like 130 out of 262 available. Yet my services are STILL getting whacked left and right.
I opened terminal emulator and typed FREE... That says I have 5-10 MB available.
Now the overall situation... I am getting tired of the system killing my services, and I really don't have that many loaded. I got Titanium Backup, Clock Widget, Juice Defender, SeePU, Screebl pro, SetCPU widget, Vlingo (then there's TTS, Bluetooth, Google, and SwiftKey, but those are required).
Just checked again: say 130MB available out 262 (well, 256). however, FREE at terminal emulator right now is 4812.
Q1: Why would the free command show a completely different result from the system?
I can guess it was more of a "snapshot", but that's a pretty HUGE discrepancy.
So where is all that free memory going?
Issue 2: CompCache and Swap
I found references to CompCache and swap file. I know they are not helpful to later phones with 512MB, but it's probably helpful somewhat on my Droid with just 256MB of RAM.
I looked up CompCache and I know it's specific to kernel implementations. The Chevy kernel (1.1 GHz ULEV) I had loaded doesn't support CompCache. Or else Cyanogen would have displayed it.
So I downloaded Swapper (the one with the green icon). Created a 128MB swap file. Then I rebooted, and tried "free" at terminal... SWAP shows ZERO.
I thought it was a problem with the program, so I downloaded the OTHER Swapper program, Swapper 2. Tried that. Got "failed to create swap file -- swapon not implemented. "
Yet every reference I see for SWAP does not mention kernel at all. All the references I see just say run the app or type in these commands at busybox/terminal and voila, SWAP!
Q2: As CompCache is kernel dependent, is swap also kernel dependent?
Is there a chart where it shows which kernel is compatible with what?
Oops, answer my own questions...
A1: Yes, P3Droid kernel DOES support SWAP. Just put it in, and SWAPPER is working now. Dumb me.
A2: With SWAP enabled (swapper 2 defaults to 32MB), available memory still shows 130MB in (SD card and Storage) and "free" now shows 32-40MB free (main memory shows 5MB free).
(and yes, P3Droid kernel supports compcache too)
Sorry, answered my own questions. I'll probably do a few tests and which is more beneficial: compcache, swap, both, or neither.
First test... 32 MB swap not enough
The "memory available" isn't working or is reporting weird figures.
DiskUsage comfirms 130 MB available out of 256, but my services are still closing left and right.
Tried 32MB swap, delayed problems, but it still happened. I've bumped it up to 128MB swap... Sometimes the phone's slow as heck.
I think I'll have to try CompCache with no swap, and other tests.
Can someone recommend some test apps that will eat up a big chunk of memory?
Slight update
My apologies if this is an FAQ.
The "memory available" shown in ATK seem to be more accurately reflecting the numbers I get from the "free" command.
The "internal storage available" in "SD card and storage" under settings and "diskusage" aren't showing ANYTHING useful. it seem to be showing basically what's left after all the Move2SD was done.
Strangely, this only happened AFTER my CM6.1 update. Under the stock ROM, DiskUsage actually shows "System" taking up like 30+ MB in internal storage. Under CM6.1 there was no "system" taking up anything.
Is CM6.1 managing memory differently or interacting with DiskUsage differently?
DiskUsage measures the usage of storage on your phone/SD. This is akin to a hard drive on a PC.
"free" and "memory available" measures the available memory on your phone. This is the phone's RAM, which is a separate thing from storage.
The reason that your apps/services are being killed is because you do not have enough available memory (RAM) and has nothing to do with storage.
Got that, thanks. I guess I am just confused on the following:
1) DiskUsage and "settings / SDcard and Storage / Internal storage available" shows what's "left" in internal memory 'storage-wise', but not the "OS free mem". Right?
2) Then what is the "memory available" shown in ATK Froyo? (or SeePU?) Usually shows 30MB, up to 60MB if I kill a few things in ATK.
3) So far the most accurate mem count is the one provided by 'free' in Terminal. That number is consistently TINY (a few MB)
4) And what are the numbers shown at the bottom of the "Manage Services" screen? I know the numbers on the right (in the "green") are all the services added together. I am going to guess that the numbers on the LEFT (red) would be the system process (phone, and system?)
5) And how does this match up with the OOM/Lifecycle?
I was looking at the output from WatchDog Lite / Auto Memory Manager (under running processes) but the "memory used" in those readings seem to be way larger than it should be. Every app seem to be taking 12-20MB, and there shouldn't be memory available to load them all.
I guess I'm just trying to figure out where did all my memory went, since none of the numbers seem to add up to me.
(The overall problem is I'm trying to figure out why my background services keep getting killed by the system from, as you said, lack of memory. I already got rid of just about everything, even Flash, from my Droid)
Hi
I'm on a rooted Tab, with Overcome ROM v3.1.0 flashed onto it (2.6.35.7 / overcome 3.3.1 kernel / baseband P1000XXJPZ) . Things have been working fine for the past couple of months, but I am having a few problems for the past few days...
1) Financial Times app won't load new data (normally allows off-line reading of newspaper) - says it's a network problem (which it's not as other apps / browsers are OK) or because of 'insufficient storage' - I have no problem with other apps that store for offline reading (economist, guardian etc)
2) A few Apps (angry birds / cut the rope etc) won't update becuase of lack of space
3) I can't buy apps in market anymore - i'm asked to choose payment method, but all of the credit cards I have saved to the account are 'greyed out' so I can't select them & if I add a new credit card, it's added but I can't select it...
I've checked my disc usage with the 'DiskUsage' app:
App Storage breakdown is Applications 608MiB / Sys Data 101.5MiB / Free Space 1207Mib, so that doesn't seem to be a problem
mnt/sdcard is total 13132MiB / Free Space 9218MiB
/preload (not sure what this is) total 99.8MiB / Free SPace 83.3MiB
I've also read that there is sometimes a problem with loading >25MB apps from market with the tab, but I've patched the 004004-Overcome V3.1.0 KRATOS Market Patch, but it doesn't seem to fix anything
I'm relatively new to Android & rooting, but not a complete Noob. But I'd be grateful if someone could perhaps point out something I might be missing or if they are having / had the same problems...
Cheers
Hi all. Today i started experiencing a very peculiar problem. I opened the Camera app and got a message: "Not enough memory". I had some megabytes left actually, but i checked Settings>Storage and it didn't report any available space. I deleted some files (~169 MB). Storage then showed 169 MB of free space. I opened Camera again, same problem. Went to Settings>Storage, 0 space available. Deleted more files(34 MB). Free space 34 MB. Open Camera, same message. Check Storage, no space available. (Settings>Storage Only shows Pictures, video; Audio; Download; Miscellaneous files. Available space is not even shown, but the USB storage bar has a grey part)
My phone is GT-N7000 running on AllianceROM ICS Final, I've been on this ROM for about a month. If more technical information is needed for your answer, just ask.
I have tried: rebooting, clearing data and cache of Camera and Gallery, wiping cache partition.
Any solutions for this problem?
Thanks for your answers in advance!
P.S. Sorry if this question was asked already elsewhere, I wasn't able to find any useful information.
Download an app that will show you what is taking up so much space, just have a look in google play
Also check your data/log file. Delete if lot of memory used there.
So... I deleted 400 more megabytes, and then I got 200 MB free space. If this space doesn't disappear, the problem is gone, I guess. All of this was very strange.
Thanks for the support anyway.