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Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
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brazilian812 said:
Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
Thanks!
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Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
surf1 said:
Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
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Dang. There might be a setting for S Voice to turn on Hotword Detection maybe?
Even if only S Voice works, there are apps to replace it with Google Now which would be fine by me!
From what I can tell from messing around with the S5, the "OK Google" hotword only works when you have the Google search bar on your homescreen. You take that bar off and it stops working. Other than that, I haven't been able to find any setting to enable it while the screen is off or without the google bar, unfortunately.
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
miketunes said:
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
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Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
brazilian812 said:
Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
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Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
miketunes said:
Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
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Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
gjlamb said:
Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
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I have the AT&T varianT and no luck unless I'm inside the s voice app (having double clicked the get in)
I've used S Voice and Google for 4 days each and in my opinion S Voice is the clear winner. Here's my top 5:
1) S Voice has very reliable always-on service whereas Google occasionally will glitch and stop responding to the wake up command until I reboot the Note 4.
2) S Voice accepts way more commands.
3) S Voice can perform functions and execute them instead of just bringing you to them. For example if you say "wake me up at 6:30AM" it will set the alarm for you, whereas Google brings up the page and you have to click "set alarm."
4) S Voice has a funny AI. You can say "Will you marry me?" and it will reply with "I would make a terrible spouse" or say "yeah baby" and it will respond with "I'm not your baby." Funny stuff.
5) S Voice has more secure always-on service because it allows you to pick the wake command so you can make your command,"I like pie" and it will work, whereas Google currently only supports "OK Google" which everyone knows from the commercials, and if you want to set it to work even if your phone is locked, you want a wake command that people are less likely to know.
What have your experiences been thus far?
To be honest I haven't given S Voice a try yet. I was surprises than Google Now works because in Poland it had very little support, but now it let me set an alarm and everything, nice. But I can't set Google Now to wake the phone - for some reason the option for it is turned off, maybe S Voice will work like that.
The new pop-up window is nice too, any app will stay open and S-Voice just pops up and closes down. Makes more sense than opening up a whole new page. Quite accurate understanding English as well.
Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?
Nice to know they improved s voice. It used to be inferior to google voice on the note 3. I might give it a try again.
Rippley05 said:
Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?
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Nope. I had S Voice a and Google Now always listening and had no noticable effect on battery life. I didn't really use'em but it did come handy at one or two occasions. I think it's efficient operation comes down to that extra chip both the SD805 and I think the Exynos variant has.
I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.
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I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.
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So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.
For voice to wake. In my experience, it only halfway works to. Maybe it's because I use a custom command...but voice rarely wake it up.
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So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.
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Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.
FuzzRaven said:
Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.
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Huh? Look at that picture I posted. Check that option, then say "hi galaxy" or whatever you set your command to be and it'll wake up. It doesn't work all that well when you use a custom command.
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Thanks for posting those photos and instructions! But I already have both enabled even before I came to this post and it still would NOT take voice commands when you have the screen on, as in not on the lockscreen (or as I found out, also when you're using any app) but when you're in the home screen. Both those options are only for use when you're on the lockscreen or when the phone is sleeping. Now that I think about it, maybe it's because of my use of Nova Prime that's hindering the S-Voice to be invoked on the main home screen though...
The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that
Patch7 said:
The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that
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You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.
FuzzRaven said:
You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.
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Thanks! That works great. Love it!!
I use svoice for making calls through by bluetooth headset. It works much much much better than google voice. Google voice is no more than a joke when you have non-english names, whereas svoice still does a great job. Another thing I love with SVoice is that it also utilizes the nicknames in your adress book. So you can use either the full name or the nickname.
This is very interesting. I must admit I completely ignored S-Voice when I bought the Note 4, as it wasn't brilliant on the Note 3. I also had got so used to Google's voice functions which did impress.
I just caught this thread and whoa! Samsung really have made some great changes to S-Voice on the Note 4 and I think I might actually start using it a bit more. So thanks for posting your observations
Samsung S-Voice command examples
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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Awesome stuff! Thanks man. This confirms my suspicions that you cannot use s-voice to switch on mobile hotspot
I use ok google all the time to send texts especially when driving. frequently i am getting an error where she says
"actually, i can't do that while the device is locked" after unlocking with fingerprint it isn't recognized that the device is unlocked for some reason
it seems to be a MIUI problem as there is a huge thread http://en.miui.com/thread-274084-1-1.html
anyone know a solution?
also, one suggestion from Google is to just turn on Trusted Voice so that you can use the OK Google command when the device is locked. when i turn this on the OK Google command does not work and is not recognized no matter what screen i'm on let alone with the device locked
anyone ran into similar problems with the Mix?
I have a similar issue...If I disable lock pattern and then re-enable it it will work. A bit of hit and miss really. Would love a proper solution if there is one.
bbourizk said:
I have a similar issue...If I disable lock pattern and then re-enable it it will work. A bit of hit and miss really. Would love a proper solution if there is one.
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Same. I can't get it working from a black screen. My other devices will wake up and "listen". On the Mix, I have to activate the screen and then say ok google for it to listen. I did the resetting the lock screen and it did help get ok google to listen on the lock screen. So thanks for that.
I also have the same problem with the latest Google app but it works with version 4.92.16 except that I'm not able to use ok Google from screen off. I hope there's a solution to this
Not sure if i just haven't used OK Google enough yet, or if it has legit fixed the problem...but after converting google to a system app i have not run into this error yet with over 20 times using OK Google. we will see if it holds up.
did you have this problem before making it system app and went away after?
I figured this out.
Browse to Google App > Settings > Voice > "OK Google Detection" and enable "Personal results"
Kind of a workaround, since this allows actions when your device is locked, but works well for me.
I don't have that option for enable Personal results.
I only have
From the Google App
From Any Screen
Trusted Voice
While Driving
All four are enabled.
personal ressults has always been enable and still no joy.
I don't even have while driving.
Only three options.
I don't think it's a MIUI thing. It happens on my Google Pixel XL with the latest Nougat. Same message.
I'm just curious why the Note 8 has to use only OK Google and can't use Hey Google for waking up Google assistant. I really liked it when the option became available for my Note 5. Now its gone.... is it maybe because of Bixby? Doesn't seem like it would be the reason because we had S voice on the note 5 and they never conflicted.
I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.
shouren04 said:
I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.
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Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.
gregcapps said:
Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.
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Yea its aggravating. Too bad it couldn't be like the gear s3 and train it to wake up on whatever command you want.
I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.
mkclarke said:
I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.
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Nope. Irritating.
@Venom0642 do you have any idea why there's no option to use the hey Google wake up command for Google assistant on the note 8. Makes no sense to me. It's a more advanced device yet somehow it can't handle that?? Yet the Note5 could?
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You should be able to. However I'm using a Pixel 2 XL that might make a difference
I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.
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I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.
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Well....it worked with Svoice just fine. The wake up command for Bixby is "Hi Bixby" which can't be customized either. Which is also a step backwards from Svoice, because I could set the wakeup to anything I wanted on my Note5.
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In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
HyperEscape said:
In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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The s9 recently got the "hey google" as a wake up command..... so here's hoping it comes soon since the note 8 follows the s9 in some respects.
HyperEscape said:
In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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Just fyi, I've finally got the hey google hot word to work. I'm on CRJ3 currently. I had retrain the voice model. I tried just saying Hey Google on the last two and now it works great.
Note 9 announced, so came Bixby along with it. This time it's version 2.0, out of the box. Samsung says it's now better at predicting user needs, processing natural languages and is quicker. You like it or you are going to remap it with a remapper or disable it forever? Or you want it to be dead already? Share your thoughts.
I'm too heavily invested in the Google assistant ecosystem. I liked how DJ Koh talked about how fragmented systems are because companies want to control, but results in a poor user experience, but then of course there's no way to disable bixby easily....not very open if you ask me.
I'll still test it out of interest.
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but then of course there's no way to disable bixby easily....not very open if you ask me.
I'll still test it out of interest.
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Well, you can forget Bixby home, let only the "Bixby voice" to stay and to follow your commands, can disable both and 4get forever or can Remap with remapper.
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Note 9 announced, so came Bixby along with it. This time it's version 2.0, out of the box. Samsung says it's now better at predicting user needs, processing natural languages and is quicker. You like it or you are going to remap it with a remapper or disable it forever? Or you want it to be dead already? Share your thoughts.
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Bixby seems to faster and context aware now (like Google Assistant), based on what I saw in Flossy Carter's unboxing and hands-on video (@8:02).
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Bixby seems to faster and context aware now (like Google Assistant), based on what I saw in Flossy Carter's unboxing and hands-on video (@8:02).
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Yup, I watched that video sometime back. It's indeed improved but personally I'm not at all a fan of it when Google assistant so damn good
Hopefully its aware enough to disable itself before I do.
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Don't care 'bout improvements nd all bruh. Gonna remap it right outta box.
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Hopefully its aware enough to disable itself before I do.
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That could have been dope . Unfortunatrly, u will have to do that on your own for now.
Ill never use it, ill just disable it again like with my s8 plus
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I think I'll give it another shot. Only reason I had stopped using was because I'm invested in Google Assistant. At least that's what I thought until just now when I realized, the only thing I use Google Assistant for is a 30 minute timer for my lunch clock punches.
Plus there's just something weird about saying "Hi Bixby," out loud.
Jammol said:
I think I'll give it another shot. Only reason I had stopped using was because I'm invested in Google Assistant. At least that's what I thought until just now when I realized, the only thing I use Google Assistant for is a 30 minute timer for my lunch clock punches.
Plus there's just something weird about saying "Hi Bixby," out loud.
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I tried my best to like it for quite sometime yesterday. And soon I realized.... NOO Wayyy! this ain't my assistant.
there is a way to disable it and remap the button to something else without root right?
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there is a way to disable it and remap the button to something else without root right?
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Yes, by executing Android Debug Bridge commands as there are some nice remappers out there.
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there is a way to disable it and remap the button to something else without root right?
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good to know that. Thanks!
I currently use it only for system control. My daily driver is Google.
I use Bixby all the time. Google Assistant is my reminder only use. Now that it remembers you are in a conversation and don't have to keep repeating the initial context I'll be using it even more.
I'm not seeing options to disable Bixby hardware button entirely in Note 9, unlike S9/S9+.
The settings and UI are different in Note 9 in comparison to S9/S9 plus,but no option of "do nothing" when you press the Bixby key in Bixby settings or Bixby voice settings.
**The unit I'm having is NOT a retail unit, it's a demo/review unit, with latest OTA flashed 2 days back with few enhancements and August security patch. The option to turn the Bixby hardware button into a totally "dead" button might show up in retail units.
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I'm not seeing options to disable Bixby hardware button entirely in Note 9, unlike S9/S9+.
The settings and UI are different in Note 9 in comparison to S9/S9 plus,but no option of "do nothing" when you press the Bixby key in Bixby settings or Bixby voice settings.
**The unit I'm having is NOT a retail unit, it's a demo/review unit, with latest OTA flashed 2 days back with few enhancements and August security patch. The option to turn the Bixby hardware button into a totally "dead" button might show up in retail units.
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Nope no "switch off" bixby buttons... very annoying And BX actions isn't working "yet". I gave Bixby a try for a couple of hours... it's a no go for me.
SAO said:
Nope no "switch off" bixby buttons... very annoying And BX actions isn't working "yet". I gave Bixby a try for a couple of hours... it's a no go for me.
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ButtonMapper doesn't work as well. But I would assume those apps might work in future once devs start working on it.
Update:
Checked a retail unit and Bixby settings are not different from the demo/review unit I had been using.
So, using bixby/phone settings one cannot turn the button completely off, for now. This is ugly and a step backwards from S9/S9+ IMO.