Hello,
I need help. This probably sounds ridiculous, but its actually a very heavy subject between me and my girlfriend. Its the cause of endless fights between us, and inspires an every-looming lack of trust she has in me. And it honestly feels like theres NOTHING i can even do about it, because i sincerely do not have an answer for her questions, nor do i even know how to explain the things shes seeing in my phone. Im not an android guy, and shes not exactly a tech person period...which makes this even more frustrating. But anyways, i'll move on...
So heres the gist of it, and some rough examples.
My gf will pick up my phone, and start going thru it. (Which isnt a problem, i have nothing to hide) And she'll use these 3rd party apps to look at/look for APK files, and **** like that, and these apps she uses tell her these apps were 'user' installed (as opposed to preinstalled or whatever), and then she asks me where i downloaded those thing from. And before i go any further i should explain, that for some reason, she flips out if she thinks i installed an app from anywhere other than Google Play Store...and God honest truth yall, i do NOT. I think she trips out because she sees me use Github and stuff on my laptop (i use linux) and she sees i can put pretty much any program from any source on any device... and that for some reason makes her feel like im being sneaky, or doing malicious things. -_- But anyways, she sees this stuff, and accuses me from downloading it from other places besides GooglePlay, and i swear to her i dont, and it causes HUGE issues yall.. like major. I dont get it, because first off, even if i DID, who the **** cares? I dont see why it even matters to her. But Secondly, she accouses me of lying to her about the source of such stupid apps, like "Google Play Services"...thats the most recent one... and she makes me so god damn mad because i didnt even download it, and more importantly didnt download it from another source...its maddening.
We've had other areas of focus before too... like several times shes tripped out when she decided to look at app permissions of everything in my phone and began wondering why everything has such extreme permissions and such...and somehow i feel like she thought i was doing something to spy on her or monitor what shes was doing..and yea, that was a fun time. And sometimes i dont even have an answer period...Like she'll ask about an app and when i see it im like "i never downloaded that", or "i dont remember even putting that on my phone".... but then she thinks im lying (which once again i find so maddening) or hiding **** from her, and as usual we fight and we fight. And it was seriously an app that i DID NOT download. And sometimes i think its maybe like a feature of another app, or if its a file shes looking at it may be a dependency of some sort...but more often than not i cant explain it..and that doesnt ever end well.
Im seriously at the end of my patience..i love her to death, but i cant keep fighting with her day after day over such DUMB ****, especially when i didnt do a single thing shes accusing me of.
Sorry this is so long. But i guess my questions are:
1. How can i better identify the source of an app/file/program, so she can see that I didnt download it from some random source trying to be sneaky.
2. How can I explain various apps or programs in my phone (some have had icons, and others havent.. and the ones without have only madae her feel like im trying to hide it from her) that i didnt put there, and show her what they are, what they're for, or how they got there?
3. Is there a way to PROVE that i dont download apps from other places other than Google Play Store and LG's store thingy? Please...I think this is by far the most crucial question.
Thank you to anyone who bothered reading all of this. And thank you to anyone who takes the time to help me with this. This whole thing is crazy, and honestly heart breaking. Its the worst feeling in the world to be so adamantly called a liar when in fact you've done nothing of the things you're being accused of.
solution to your troubles should be:
I love you and I trust you, and you do the same.
so don't spy at my phone like I don't do the same to yours.
you don't know how/why some apps that you have installed haven't been downloaded from google play store, but you don't give a fluck? good choice. she should never have seen those stuff on your device, it's nothing that matters to her.
if she forces you do give an answer, it may be because she lacks of trust in you. or worse.. she'll do [she's doing?] to you what she accuses you to do to her.
This isnt normal man. I'm 38 and dated many girls. This is kinda extreme. If she goes crazy at apps that might be side loaded vs from Google than what else will she flip out about. An hour late from traffic, had to work overtime and so on.
@deadman.zr0day, your post sounds like a letter that should be sent to Dear Amy and not a technical forum. Your relationship needs more help than just dealing with your phone.
As far as your phone, have you considered adding or changing your pin code, using face lock or, a finger print so that your girlfriend can't just open your phone any time she feels like it?
lol strange story. you can date with everyone
Sounds like your girlfriend has been hacked and somebody is tapping that. They been running all kinds of deep root kits in her and now the virus in her mind has her thinking her malicious activity is about to be exposed. Get out while you can guy. End the end its always about your financial information(&self worth). get out now.
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5eroD4y said:
Sounds like your girlfriend has been hacked and somebody is tapping that. They been running all kinds of deep root kits in her and now the virus in her mind has her thinking her malicious activity is about to be exposed. Get out while you can guy. End the end its always about your financial information(&self worth). get out now.
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The question to ask her is, why is of such a great concern?
I don't think you can really prove that you aren't downloading apps from unknown sources. You can show her that the option to download from Unknown sources is not checked, but there are many system files and apps that run as processes that keep the OS stable, similar to a desktop operating system. I'm sure you know that that when you check on one of those apps that don't have an icon you get a message that says that it may cause the device to malfunction, become unstable or may cause other apps to stop functioning. As comical as your post is, cyber security and relationship fidelity are serious issues. I'd like to know what transpires from all of this. I hope you keep us posted.
Everything will be fine with a few bottles of wine! Cheers
deadman.zr0day said:
Sorry this is so long. But i guess my questions are:
1. How can i better identify the source of an app/file/program, so she can see that I didnt download it from some random source trying to be sneaky.
2. How can I explain various apps or programs in my phone (some have had icons, and others havent.. and the ones without have only madae her feel like im trying to hide it from her) that i didnt put there, and show her what they are, what they're for, or how they got there?
3. Is there a way to PROVE that i dont download apps from other places other than Google Play Store and LG's store thingy? Please...I think this is by far the most crucial question.
Thank you to anyone who bothered reading all of this. And thank you to anyone who takes the time to help me with this. This whole thing is crazy, and honestly heart breaking. Its the worst feeling in the world to be so adamantly called a liar when in fact you've done nothing of the things you're being accused of.
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To answer your three questions:
In settings, Apps, App Info, you can click an app and under App details, it will show where the app came from.
Most system apps don't have icons. You can tell you didn't put them there because you won't be able to uninstall them.
You would have to go through each one to see where it came from using the info from Question 1.
Now that that's out of the way, RUN!! Run away like your life depended on it. I don't like talking bad about another man's girl, but she crazy!
(Apparently crazy girlfriend was just doing a Youtube parody, who knew!)
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Oh boy. Your story can be a best-selling netflix movie!
Why don't you try a tracking app on your both devices so that anyone of you gives (and receives) all the phone activities to (from) the other?
Ooops, this needs mutual trust which is not the case... Sorry
Honestly, I'm reluctant to give any technical advice that would enable her behavior. Her behavior is a HUGE red flag and can often act as a precursor for greater abuse. You should talk to her about respecting privacy and the importance of trust in the relationship. Perhaps this article will help: Don't Use Software To Spy On Your Spouse.
If, for some reason, you feel the need to indulge her paranoia, you could do a few things:
Open up Google Play Store. Go to My Apps. If, indeed, you're only installed apps from the Play Store, then they will be listed there. One thing to note: they're listed in a bizarre order. It's not quite chronological and not alphabetical, so you'll have to really scroll through that list to find it. Also note: This lists EVERY app you've ever downloaded, not just the ones currently on your phone.
If it's essential to her that you prove your innocence (and again, from your account it sounds as though she is being WAY over-the-top about this) then perhaps she's benefit from some of the info here: How To Tell If Your Partner Is Spying On You
Again: Her behavior demonstrates a huge lack of trust in you and your relationship, and should be seen as a big bright red flag.
I think that the best solution for this problem is to forget about a smartphone and buy a phone with buttons without any google and apple stores. Or you can tell your girl that if you want to spy on her phone you must install some apps on her phone as I've read here https://celltrackingapps.com/spy-on-girlfriends-text-messages-free/. If you have so many problems that is based on such simple things, why do you live together. I think that this story must be solved right now because this psychosis will grow in the future.
Dude, I would break up with her instantly. LMAO, she will tell me which apps to install and which services to use. F that. She knows nothing about phones. I've been flashin' custom ROMs since 2014 while she used daddy's iPhones. Jesus Christ.
I imagined that I was in your situation, added a bit of spice to it xD. No offense to you and your gf.
Ditch her, fast. Jealousy only gets worse.
Stupid girls are a [email protected]
You need Dear Abby not XDA
5eroD4y said:
Sounds like your girlfriend has been hacked and somebody is tapping that. They been running all kinds of deep root kits in her and now the virus in her mind has her thinking her malicious activity is about to be exposed. Get out while you can guy. End the end its always about your financial information(&self worth). get out now.
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The question to ask her is, why is of such a great concern?
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This was by far my favorite answer. lol Thank you very much for that.
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finally 21 and now i want software to help me get drunk in delicious fashion soo does anyone know of free software with mixes based on ingredients and such?
Here is one free one that I know of, however it is in no way the best. It actually references an online database to pull the drinks, so you would need a data plan to utilize it. It can be downloaded from freewarepocketpc at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocketender.html
The best one that I have found is not free but was only like $14 USD and is fantastic. It is from Town Compass, but it is quite inclusive... Here's some of the info: http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=490101
App
There's a bunch on this site. check them out. i havent tried it yet thou.
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http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/drink+mix
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/alcoholic+drink
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/cocktail
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this is to check if your sober enough to drive lol.( theres probably a better app out there...)
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Health/AlcoholLevel-67390.shtml
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i personally love the bartender app on the tmobile G1 but i cannot find it for my phone... errrrrr
well i hope i helped some. and if anyone can find the bartender app from tmobile g1 and its compatible with raphael/fuze i would love to know!!
later
After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
AvantGo
Try using www.avantgo.com and add the "Drink Boy" channel. You'll get good recipes on a nice interface that you can view and search for offline. When you're online, it updates itself. I've had a lot of fun with it.
Oh yeah! Don't drink and drive.
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I would definately be down. I totally concur. Half the bartender apps are outdated or are a bit difficult to navigate through. Being an amature bartender, I use my database quite a bit, but yeah if there was a program that would allow you to enter in your liquors on hand and priovide you with possibile combinations... Damn... That'd be sweet....
Sorry it's too early in the morning....
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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Heck yeah!
+1 as my favorite quote is: "Candy is Dandy, But Liquor is Quicker"
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speed_pour said:
After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I'd love a drink mixing app.... so count me twice (for each hand that can hold a drink) lol
iam also a bartender and would love an app for mix drinks and shots!!! but dont forget to add the DEATHWISH shot:
DEATHWISH:
1/3 JAGER
1/3 WILD TURKEY 101
1/3 BACARDI 151
SPLASH OF GRENADINE...
(layer grenadine on bottom of shot glass, after pouring in liqours...)
(NOT FOR THE LIGHT DRINKER!!!)
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
sherv said:
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
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I freely admit, since I'm out of work right now, I'm fine with being a whore
I've already got a bit of this started, but I'm working on another project first that I think will get a lot of wide-spread usage across the forum. But I'll get back to working on this one very soon.
In the mean time, are there any particular features anybody is looking for. I'm sure it'll be easy enough to figure out all of the features the drinkers want, but what about bartenders? Tell me how often you think you'll be entering drinks, what extra features do you need. Will you actually be using this while at work...with your fingers?
I know this is in the Raph section, though it belongs in Q&A or D&H, but does anybody here want a QVGA version, or dare I ask, W(Q)VGA? If this app is going to see finger-based controls (which I'd expect to make sense), it's not really going to work out having small windows controls, so graphics/resolution will be considered for the first version.
This site works well for me Webtender
thedarkness81 said:
This site works well for me Webtender
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I used to be a regular contributor to the forums there...The biggest problem is that the drink database is absolutely cluttered with incorrect entries and missing a lot of common recipes.
When I start building a collection of recipes, there's actually a couple of people from that forum that I'm going to ask for help/collaboration. I'm also going to throw them a heads up to ask for any thoughts from them on what they would like to see.
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
GoBills2184 said:
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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lol, from me, it'll be at least a couple of weeks. I'm in the middle of working on another app that'll be quite a bit more relevant on this forum. But I will be coming back to this app shortly.
I'll post more info to this thread when I start it, and then I'll create a release thread in D&H (and post a link to it here) when there's a reasonably good start on a beta version.
You can help out by giving some ideas of what features you'd like to see in it.
this is very cool that you'd consider putting an app together, pour...the best reference app/source I've found is that DrinkBoy channel on avantgo. That said, my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group, but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group
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I kinda suspect, with luck, my app will draw attention from hopefully every group....the college students, bar patrons, and even bartenders from different types of places. For that reason, a "simple" app might not be too likely. Simple interface is definitely part of my plan, but the application itself is going to be pretty powerful and probably meant to cover a lot of people's uses.
bigred727 said:
but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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- Favorites will be very easy to implement, so this is pretty much a sure thing.
- The database itself is a subject I intend to take more seriously than a lot of people probably expect (more on that in the future).
- I've got several ideas for searches/filters, each will be fleshed out as I build it. I'm aiming mostly for live searches and the first will be using quick ingredient filtering.
- fuzzy search...I'll see what I can do, but that's one I know very little about. Some quick googling turned up some information that's possibly VERY usable, but it's all written for the the big brother .Net Framework while the Compact Framework gets no love. I'll bookmark some of this stuff and see where I can go with it after I've released a first version. As much as it might be cool, I can't justify porting Lucene.Net to the compact framework for this project. In the mean time, I can use a "Sounds Like" mechanism that would probably do pretty well for an early version. I'm also a little worried about performance.
As a note, I'd previously said that I wouldn't be starting this until I finished another application. I feel a little dumb for not seeing it sooner, but I discovered Sashimi exists (though I haven't started testing it). While it sorely lacks about half of the features I planned to build, it does a far better job at the other half of the features I had in mind. I'm going to try out Sashimi for a while to determine if there's enough reason to build my app (or possibly a configurator/extension of sorts for use with Sashimi, if possible). As a result, I'm going to put that project on hold and move on to this one.
Second note...err, request actually...I'm ok with graphics...sometimes...But I want to make this app graphically attractive and possibly add skinning ability. At the very least, I will need a few decent looking icons for a few things, at the most, it might turn into an entire interface design. One of my goals is to make this app roughly comparable to something people might expect to buy form the iPhone AppStore (after all, everybody is *****ing about the lack of pretty WM apps). So, if anybody has decent graphics skills and is up for helping out, drop me a line and we'll bump some ideas around when I get to the right stage.
wow i had almost forgot about this thread glad to see something has come of it!
definetly excited to see what you come up with
Is this program still in active development? I hope it is because it sounds like it could be really nice/useful!
All of you know the Terminator movie .....i guess
I was wondering IF really there was a SkyNet wich takes the control over the world . How would that affect the smartphones. Beside they probably won't work.
The only thing i can think of is that SkyNet could easy find most of the people because they can't live without phones in the pocket.....
Just a thought would be nice
Google =Skynet
Indeed. The "Don't be Evil" stuff is just a cover up. Give it 10-15 years and their automated cars will run you down like there's no tomorrow. Pack your stuff and get the hell out of the west NOW.
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LordManhattan said:
Indeed. The "Don't be Evil" stuff is just a cover up. Give it 10-15 years and their automated cars will run you don't like there's no tomorrow. Pack your stuff and get the hell out of the west NOW.
This post is sponsored by North Korea.
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Muahahahaha
I think to go North.
Skynet wont be brave enough to take on the green androids. And there you have it, mankind saved by little green Androids.
greeky510 said:
Skynet wont be brave enough to take on the green androids. And there you have it, mankind saved by little green Androids.
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the laggy green androids would be shot down even before they realize.
85gallon said:
Google =Skynet
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Hes not wrong you know.. What os are you using? What browser? Who defines your idea of an internet search?
Apple just as bad..
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The only thing I wondered while watching T3 was... Why the hell are they still making this ****?
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
Ooooooooh I almost forgot.. Google started with CIA money.. Dont believe me? Google it... You get the picture..
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mynameisnafe said:
Hes not wrong you know.. What os are you using? What browser? Who defines your idea of an internet search?
Apple just as bad..
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It won't be long. Soon if the government needs to know anything they just will go to Google. They have your habits, movements, everything. And all of the stuff coming from Google in the future. They will control of your car. They will be able to see what you are seeing in real time with the advent of Google Glass announced last week.
I did not know that Google was started with cia money. I will have to look into it. But it would not surprise me. I have always thought Google would end up being a secret arm of the .govs that will bypass the need all of that due process nonsense.
I know it is futile to make sure that i never log in my search page on any device i use. I have to"trust"that they are being honest. Well last week i was looking for a new store in my area while driving around so i searched for it on my Droid. Found the store. A couple of days later i went to do a search on my kindle fire. I pull up Google and there is my search that i made a few days before on my phone. I know about syncing, but i never log in so they shouldn't have sync'd. Both devices were logged in.
And when i pull up Google on my kf, i have always told Google not to get my location. Every time i pull up Google it shows my location. Then the location quickly disappears and "unavailable" pops up.
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conantroutman said:
The only thing I wondered while watching T3 was... Why the hell are they still making this ****?
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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ummm.... dude.......
They aren't still making it. T3 was made in 2003.
We still have this guy,
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Soon?! Lol but its true..
I mean I had to set up a google account for android to love me, so I guess theres a lot of cookie crumbs there, my searches, ad clicks or whatever, my map searches, image searches, the fact I dont use safesearch, my youtube account views n searches, picasa, apps installed, all that debug info, etc, commonly viewed sites, commonly viewed sites using https ( I mean google chrome? Really?!).. Its fuggin endless!
Look at the development of it, I.e. Maps: first there was maps, then driving directions, now street view.
Doing games we do a lot of 3D math and a lot on trees too.. Jus think, google not only knows where you went, but which buildings were of interest to you.. Such a simple thing as a mouseover can be uber contextual when your hard disk storage limitations are billions of dollars and the space available in area 51s back yard..
Your address = where the phone enters charge state most often. google wallet says a lot, all that contact syncing..
You get on a bus and these people, some of em exist purely on their phones I swear!
(maybe Im just paranoid HA)
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The machines would use our mobile phones and their GPS modules to track us down whilst trying to kill us.
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The machines would use our mobile phones and their GPS modules to track us down whilst trying to kill us.
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It still beats Global warming
One thing.. If Terminator comes from the future, and is built in the future, when he gets killed in the past, why doesn't he come back the second after he gets "killed", and stabs the people in the face?
He can't die since he's being built in the future, so if he dies in the past he will still be built (in the future) and come back as planned. So the moment before he dies, he can make a note about not getting into that trap the next time, and succeed. He'll be back indeed!
mynameisnafe said:
Soon?! Lol but its true..
I mean I had to set up a google account for android to love me, so I guess theres a lot of cookie crumbs there, my searches, ad clicks or whatever, my map searches, image searches, the fact I dont use safesearch, my youtube account views n searches, picasa, apps installed, all that debug info, etc, commonly viewed sites, commonly viewed sites using https ( I mean google chrome? Really?!).. Its fuggin endless!
Look at the development of it, I.e. Maps: first there was maps, then driving directions, now street view.
Doing games we do a lot of 3D math and a lot on trees too.. Jus think, google not only knows where you went, but which buildings were of interest to you.. Such a simple thing as a mouseover can be uber contextual when your hard disk storage limitations are billions of dollars and the space available in area 51s back yard..
Your address = where the phone enters charge state most often. google wallet says a lot, all that contact syncing..
You get on a bus and these people, some of em exist purely on their phones I swear!
(maybe Im just paranoid HA)
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Also add to that your gmail and your email accounts if you have your personal emails and corporate emails set up.
BTW..... Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!!!!
85gallon said:
It won't be long. Soon if the government needs to know anything they just will go to Google. They have your habits, movements, everything. And all of the stuff coming from Google in the future. They will control of your car. They will be able to see what you are seeing in real time with the advent of Google Glass announced last week.
I did not know that Google was started with cia money. I will have to look into it. But it would not surprise me. I have always thought Google would end up being a secret arm of the .govs that will bypass the need all of that due process nonsense.
I know it is futile to make sure that i never log in my search page on any device i use. I have to"trust"that they are being honest. Well last week i was looking for a new store in my area while driving around so i searched for it on my Droid. Found the store. A couple of days later i went to do a search on my kindle fire. I pull up Google and there is my search that i made a few days before on my phone. I know about syncing, but i never log in so they shouldn't have sync'd. Both devices were logged in.
And when i pull up Google on my kf, i have always told Google not to get my location. Every time i pull up Google it shows my location. Then the location quickly disappears and "unavailable" pops up.
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ummm.... dude.......
They aren't still making it. T3 was made in 2003.
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Ummm... I believe they made another truly terrible incarnation after T3... (which at the time I foresaw because I'm a robot sent from the future to complain about overdone movie franchises)
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LordManhattan said:
One thing.. If Terminator comes from the future, and is built in the future, when he gets killed in the past, why doesn't he come back the second after he gets "killed", and stabs the people in the face?
He can't die since he's being built in the future, so if he dies in the past he will still be built (in the future) and come back as planned. So the moment before he dies, he can make a note about not getting into that trap the next time, and succeed. He'll be back indeed!
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They actually explained that in The Sarah Connor Chronicles. In the future, John Connor and a bunch of others raided a Skynet factory with the intent of blowing it up, only to find them sending the first terminator back in time. They obviously blew the place up and destroyed the time machine to Skynet had to start all over again.
actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
Well, I want to kill you for making a hard to read post.
In before the lock?
I don't see anything specifically lock-worthy, but, just in case ib4c since Archer told us not to post ib4l ....it will probably go on for a bit since Archer is likely asleep and I don't see vanessaem online.
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OP suffers death by paper cuts.
But there's one thing perfect about android. It is always better than apple products. No matter how **** the android or how good the apple product.
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actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
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You make a thread titled "Android is not perfect" and don't give a single reason why it's not perfect. Instead you go insulting those who use the operating system (Which I would hardly call constructive criticism). Yes most of us realize that Android is not perfect. Software will never be perfect. There will always be better and more things to add. Now I agree with you in that some people take the specs of their phone way too seriously but that is not the majority of users.
P.S. It's not just Android people that will get mad if you start insulting. If you go to an Ubuntu forum and telling them that Linux is crap, they will yell at you. Same with an iPhone forum.
Oh and...
I'd rather kill the OP than read that wall of text. I don't think anyone would mind that..
I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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Bless your heart, you made it that far.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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You must be a masochist.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
Y...M...C...A...
Everybody!
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
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Did you just insult me? Too many 6+ letter words.
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Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about
PS You may think iam crazy, then again maybe google fed you the exact information to make you think that
bofh999 said:
Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about
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This post made my head spin but I can't say that this can't be a possibility. I mean 10 years ago if you would have told me that mobiles were going to be important part of our lives I would have laughed!
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How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
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This!
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This!
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why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
I definitely think you're crazy
I also think the tin-foilers have a highly inflated sense of their own importance, thinking that everyone wants to know everything about them.
bofh999 said:
why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
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Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:
I say ,blame the humans...And those troll people like @Darth ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...un-millennial-ai-bot-into-a-genocidal-maniac/
Death to trolls!!
/tosses pitchforks and tablets into the room......
No. Computers do not think and are not capable of thinking. They do what they are told and *nothing* else.
The Microsoft thing was misreported as click-bait to sucker people who will believe anything they read. The phrase "repeat after me..." was used to make it repeat offensive phrases. It did not "decide" that it liked Hitler - it did what it was told.
What you suggest cannot happen with our technology - it is simply not capable.
OP
I came from the machine world... I know it's coming!
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Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:
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Not the point. Practically everyone relys of computer if you use em or not, if he knows that or not.
Energy, Food, Money,information and communication,.... take whatever you want, its all running now deeply dependent on computers and networks.
you dont need to kill mankind, if you control every little piece of imnformation you control the people.
look like countries like north korea work. still they need violence but most people there really think kim is a god.
and if the biug AI wants to kill us, well simply change a few numbers.
make mankind believe we have enough food and energy until we drained everything to zero and then we simply starve, simplfied spoken
why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
SOLUTION TO DELAYED-NOTIFICATIONS:
Enable USB debugging on the phone.
You just unzip the file provided here in your PC: https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
Navigate to it via terminal.
Then, after you connect the phone to your PC, run:
./adb devices
./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
That'll fix it for sure.
I simply cannot recommend Android to my normie friends and family.
Let me restate this: It is not our job to fix Google's bugs.
This is a US-centric view.
If you can't tell: I am a bit aggravated right now.
I could not get my GMail, GCal, and other notifications to come through properly on Pixel 5's Android 11 OR S21 Ultra's Android 11.
This has apparently been an issue that many an Android user suffers through silently -- and, some don't even know that this is happening to them. I guess they're embarrassed to publicly state that their mobile OS is subpar.
When you get an e-mail or if a calendar event reminder is coming up, and even if your phone's screen is OFF/locked: you should get an *instant* notification. No delay whatsoever.
Well, if my screen was off/locked, I wouldn't get these notifications or it would take 10+ minutes to show. But, once I unlocked my phone: boom, notifications. And, sometimes even if my screen wasn't locked, there would be a serious delay or no notification.
After spending loads of time trying to fix this problem, me and my friend finally stumbled upon a solution: ./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
A reboot eliminates this setting modification, by the way.
Do not tell me that instant e-mail notifications are not necessary. Many of us work jobs that require them to be instant.
No end user should ever have to go through this. iPhone users certainly don't go through this.
If Google doesn't care about Android users, then, why should I, as an Android user, care about Android too? Just switch to iPhone, I guess.
Google pays Apple $10bn+ every year and makes better software for iOS than it does for Android.
Just look at the damn widgets that iOS users get.
So, $10bn/year plus the cost of the software developed to cater to iOS users.
This makes Google a simp cuck to Apple, nothing else.
Would Apple ever return this favor? No.
Therefore, Google management is a simp cucked by Apple, nothing more.
We are fools to be using this OS.
If Google is willing to subsidize my iOS software updates and experience to the tune of billions of dollars every single year -- then, why not just switch?
Clearly, my experience has shown me that Android can be cheaper -- if I don't value my time.
Statistic after statistic bears it out: iPhone users are wealthier.
I am tired of being an Android luser -- why should I take on such abuse and neglect by the main author of my mobile OS?
Before you start patronizing me: YES, I tried every other bloody trick in the book to fix this issue.
No end user should ever have to go through this! No end user should have to run adb commands to enable basic functionality.
There are some basic things that modern smartphones should just be able to do: instant notifications, 3rd party camera support, functioning RCS or some other form of E2EE messaging built-in, reliable local backups, a nationwide network of repair facilities, etc.
Android fails on all of these.
iPhone ordered. Glad to leave this Android ghetto behind.
Hey Google, if you have some self-respect: then, instead of paying Apple $10bn an year and doing iOS development, how about you actually work on some basic Android functionality instead?
Way too long dude.
But I can say I never had a delay on my notifications, especially on Gmail where my phone rings before my laptop for example.
All my apps get notified in time, I can compare with Signal and it's Desktop app.
I really don't know what's the cause but if I can help.
And for you information, all your monologue about iPhone is really too much, especially when some people have the exact same issue.
Just Google iPhone notifications delay and you'll find out.
If you wanna change, just change, We are not kids, nobody is gonna tell you to stay in the Android world if you're not satisfied.
To finish, you maybe make stupid assumptions. I paid an S21U 1500 € because I can, I also have an iPhone 12 Pro from work, and I just never use it because in my tastes, this is a really bad phone to use.
Good thing We use VoIP so I just forward my professional calls now.
Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
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Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
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Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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And, your phone was locked for 4-5 minutes but the notification still came through?
If so, please share your battery optimization settings and other stuff.
Screenshots of those settings would be nice.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
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Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
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Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
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We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
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We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
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USA does not care and EU can't do much because they have less than 20% share in the rest of the world.
The only country they are afraid of is China, so they obey just to make more money and still use their factories.
Nat.smith26 said:
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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Adaptive battery and put unused apps to sleep are known troublemakers.
Android will manage very well without them.
Any power hogs deal with on an individual case by case basis. Optimize it; flipping a toggle switch isn't optimizing
At the most, simply close that app when done with it. The Brave browser is real bad like that if you don't close it out.
Your results may vary... play with it; WYSIWYG.
As for Apple, it's a closed platform one trick pony and it sucks.
As for Android, you get what you put into it.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
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Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
Beefheart said:
Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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You're on the wrong forum... no sheep here, we ate them.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Well that depends what basics are to you.
To me it's just gonna be able to install any app I want and not being insulted by a closed and proprietary system.
If basics is just messages/calls/Facebook/snapshat just like 70% of the US teenagers then you can buy a 200$ phone for that.
But no, I see my nephew, He needs to get in the club, not to be different of the mass.
But tbh your arguments doesn't apply in the rest of the world, even in European countries where Samsung is still the leader and Chinese brands are hype
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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The basics work on Android. Or they do for me at least.
Read into that what you wish.
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
sagiag said:
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
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Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
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do you know if device reboot will reset the idle modes ?
or if I done the ads command once it should work forever