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It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the LG V20 before depleting the battery.
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I am getting about 6hrs of sot will post pic later
Sot im getting right now
I dont know about you guys but im getting outstanding battery life. I'm going to do a test later today. Im going to charge my phone upto 100 (after it reaches 0 today) and then when 5 minutes after it says is 100, i will unplug it and i will put a 1440p video that last more than 8 hours and see how long it last with full brightness and wifi on. Then im going to post Very specific details about how everything went. Oh , aslo it will have speaker at its maximum
oh and just have in mind, i have 35 user apps installed, and some of them constantly sync (so it means more battery consumption)
Just over 3hrs. I dont think my phone has started optimizing apps or putting them in Doze.
My sot had been nothing short of spectacular.. I'm getting 5hr average... nexus 6 would barely reach 3... my g4 not even 3 also..I always wondered how people were getting above 4hrs.. Ive gotten 6+.....I jus miss stock Android
I get 4 hours with medium usage and leave everything on. Wifi, BT etc. Brightness is on Auto but it shows at 50% to 70% most of the time at work. It's my bright office...LOL
BlackKnight23 said:
Just over 3hrs. I dont think my phone has started optimizing apps or putting them in Doze.
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Same as I got yesterday... I don't do anything to try and extend battery life though (brightness always on auto, and I usually turn it up a little bit). Today will be my 2nd full day with the phone, and after 2 hours off the charger I had 99% left (only 5 minutes screen on time), but then I used the phone for about 15 minutes and it dropped quick to 94%)... Time shall tell, hopefully it is till just optimizing like you said...
I'm on my 2nd charge and like you guys above, I'm getting abysmal battery life.
I'll give the phone another week or so to optimise, and if it doesn't - it'll be sent back to T-Mobile with a piss poor rating in terms of battery life. What a shame if that's the case..
2 hr 17 minutes screen on time. 68% left, second screen turned on while sleep. Loving it! Restored all my app backup from Google, so its not a plain phone.
This is after my first full charge it's only gonna get better as I rarely install new apps.
Auto brightness at times, manual on others, as the brightness of this phone doesnt compare at all to my note 4.
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First full day at work with the phone, and actually pretty light usage day and gotta say the battery is a bit of a let down so far. My shorter days at work over the weekend gave me some concerns, but today I'm at 2% left with 13h 28m standby and 2h 17m screen time. No calls, no videos. Maybe a dozen messages, web browsing, 20mins of spotify for commute. Frankly it "feels" like it lasts the same as my 2 year old m8.
10hours 45Minutes
I don't have a sim in mine so all my use is just on Wi-Fi. Indoor use with 30-40% brightness, 49 apps and services disabled. The day after this I did 1080p 60fps video streaming while plugged into my Bose speakers using the Hi-Fi DAC for a little over 5Hours and got about 6.5Hours total SOT. But so far 10hours 45 minutes is my record. Another time I did get right at 10 hours so it wasn't a fluke.
I'm not activating mine either so that's pretty sweet.
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Auto brightness at times, manual on others, as the brightness of this phone doesn't compare at all to my note 4.
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I concur as well. I'm also coming from a Note 4 and the V20 is definitely brighter at 100%.
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Sot im getting right now
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Hey, can you share any settings you may have altered to receive such SoT. I'll be lucky if I get 4. I used to get 6-7 hours on the Note 7 I had.
Yeah the battery life sucks, and I like everything else about the phone except ****ty LED screen (I know why they didn't use AMOLED, not cost, but because with no physical home button, the buttons would burn images in AMOLED, LED won't). In any case the true test of a battery is Pokemongo at 100% brightness (which you need with this screen at all times to look half way decent). Note 7 5 hrs, Note 4 4 hours, V20 3 hours, all at 100% and same resolution/settings. So yeah, the battery life sucks, end of discussion. And my phone is a week old, no bloat and settled. Another quirk is sometimes Antutu gets 147k excellent score and sometimes it gets half that, for no reason at all, as well as 3dMark being horrible as well for some reason, half of what it should be.
This is my third LG phone (Had the V10 and G5 before), and the battery performance appears very strong on this. On my first full, non-setup charge, and using my normal work activities (lots of emails, texts, calls, and periodic social media), here's what I got
Total time on battery: 54 hrs 52 min
Total call time: 3hrs 2 min
Total SOT 2hrs 44min
That's great life a regular business user. Also, the screen is way brighter than the V10 and G5.
I've been getting phenomenal standby time on this phone, thanks to the new and improved Doze, better than any other phone I've ever had actually. I'm just not getting great SOT, like many others out there and I can't figure out why. I've had the phone for about a week now and all of the apps should've been optimized by now, I think. Anyone else having similar issues?
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Dmarco, a factory reset could be the solution
Guys it is simple. It is the same Snapdragon 820 in about 10 other devices with similiar battery sizes. But the V20 will get A LOT less screen on time, my estimation is 25-50% less depending on how bright the screen is. I need the screen at 100% and low comfort blue filter to make the screen even kinda decent, like a Samsung at 70% brightness. Anyways the LCD screen on the V20 eats A LOT of battery power, it can't compete with an AMOLED. That said, the only benefit is that in 2 years your screen won't have any burn in and be worthless.
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the LG V20's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
3 hours and 8-12 minutes of 1440p video at full brightness, loud speaker, wifi on, and screen recorder running (although the file messed up so i cant post it).
bad
Battle Bay: Less than 2 hours!
I can honestly say that it really depends on what I am doing. For example if I am digging around on the WOW companion Application or Yahoo's Fantasy Sports Application, the whole phone will get heated up and the battery starts taking a nosedive. If I'm not doing anything with my phone it can go 15 hours straight without losing a single percent. If I am just watching YouTube or something along those lines at 1080 or lower it seems to still go down, but not nearly as quickly as the (possibly poorly - from a power consumption view - designed) apps mentioned before.
As far as I'm concerned the removable battery negates any battery performance complaints. Out of power? Pop in a new battery, and you're 100% in a few minutes, back to endure more "heavy use"... How can any other modern flagship begin to compare?! (not to mention a year down the line, when I can just buy a fresh battery to mitigate deteriorating capacity, while the crowd has to buy a brand new iphone/s9/m10)
I've been playing Sky Force Reloaded a lot the past week. I had to be next to the power charger. I haven't bought a spare/secondary battery yet. I carry around a usb battery and a short cable when I need too...
Installed some more apps and games, and talk about nosedive. From the time I leave the house at 7AM to about 12 noon, the battery drops down to 15%(battery warning). I have to charge it then. I have to charge it again when I leave the office, which is around 5PM. Battery level varies at that time. Then charge again before bed. I still haven't rooted my phone. Phone temperature remains about 80F to about 108F(heavy use while charging) at times. LinkedIn, xfinity, Groupon, Weather, Waze, etc. Battery drainers! I've about almost had it. I miss root, and miss the ability to freeze apps. I will have to root this LG V20 sooner or later...
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Installed some more apps and games, and talk about nosedive. From the time I leave the house at 7AM to about 12 noon, the battery drops down to 15%(battery warning). I have to charge it then. I have to charge it again when I leave the office, which is around 5PM. Battery level varies at that time. Then charge again before bed. I still haven't rooted my phone. Phone temperature remains about 80F to about 108F(heavy use while charging) at times. LinkedIn, xfinity, Groupon, Weather, Waze, etc. Battery drainers! I've about almost had it. I miss root, and miss the ability to freeze apps. I will have to root this LG V20 sooner or later...
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Yes my does that too.. Battery lasts just a bit over half day. I purchased 2nd battery but it's getting very annoying to change and charge them when ur between places.
Hope he gets better
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I usually can keep my phone charges, in the car, desk, night stand. Today we where doing Hurricane prep listening to Spotify while working, watching YouTube while in the car driving from place to place. Had to set the screen to auto brightness to deal with the BRIGHT sunlight outdoors. After about 3.5 to 4 hours of use and 1 hour and 30 minuts of screen on time I was down to about 38% battery. I had to drive home and grab my power bank. I've only had my V20 for 2 months.
Not impressed!
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... 1 hour and 30 minuts of screen on time I was down to about 38% battery. I had to drive home and grab my power bank. I've only had my V20 for 2 months.
Not impressed!
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I'm still on stock H91810k. How 'bout you?
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I'm still on stock H91810k. How 'bout you?
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Stock AT&T H910.
Just got my new Note 8 and yesterday I had 7 hours and 44 minutes of on time and 3 hours and 10 minutes of screen on time and was at 50% battery. That far better than my 2 to 3 month old V20.
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Stock AT&T H910.
Just got my new Note 8 and yesterday I had 7 hours and 44 minutes of on time and 3 hours and 10 minutes of screen on time and was at 50% battery. That far better than my 2 to 3 month old V20.
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Whoa. That's really good.
RojasTKD said:
Stock AT&T H910.
Just got my new Note 8 and yesterday I had 7 hours and 44 minutes of on time and 3 hours and 10 minutes of screen on time and was at 50% battery. That far better than my 2 to 3 month old V20.
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Can I ask if you are ok with where the fingerprint sensor is located seriously thinking about getting note 8 as well v20 screen on time is getting worse and worse everyday
Zenroid said:
Can I ask if you are ok with where the fingerprint sensor is located seriously thinking about getting note 8 as well v20 screen on time is getting worse and worse everyday
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It is a bit of a nuisance especially at first. I've learned to adjust my grip so I grab the phone a little higher up than I used to and this makes the fingerprint scanner easier to reach. Since the Note 8 as narrower than traditional phones due to the new display format going it higher is easier while still being able to hold the device securely.
Still not ideal but manageable and definitely not something that would keep me from buying the Note 8.
I'm also using the facial recognition feature in conjunction with the fingerprint scanner. It's not something I thought I'd be into, but it works really well even in conditions I assumed it would not, like low light and slightly of angle.. So if I don't feel like doing for the fingerprint scanner I can just got the power button while holding the Note 8 and it will unlock.
Note I do have slightly bigger hands than most.
sobriquet506 said:
As far as I'm concerned the removable battery negates any battery performance complaints. Out of power? Pop in a new battery, and you're 100% in a few minutes, back to endure more "heavy use"... How can any other modern flagship begin to compare?! (not to mention a year down the line, when I can just buy a fresh battery to mitigate deteriorating capacity, while the crowd has to buy a brand new iphone/s9/m10)
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I disagree. If I have to change the battery every four hours of heavy (not even that heavy), somethings terribly wrong. If it was just one battery swap, maybe I could agree but I'd need at least 3 or 4. Luckily I'm usually able to keep my batter topped off most regular days. Removable batteries is no excuse to have horrid battery life.
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I disagree. If I have to change the battery every four hours of heavy (not even that heavy), somethings terribly wrong. If it was just one battery swap, maybe I could agree but I'd need at least 3 or 4. Luckily I'm usually able to keep my batter topped off most regular days. Removable batteries is no excuse to have horrid battery life.
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Neat thing about a removable battery: it lets you swap out for a bigger unit.
I have a 6700 mAh battery in my H918, and haven't plugged in before bedtime in months. I can stream hours of video with full brightness and no thought for power. And that's the small option, the ZeroLemon unit is 10000 mAh, I just don't need that much.
In the end, the phone is only as smart as the user. I guess we can lead a horse to water.... but we can't keep removable batteries on the market if the people are too limited to use them :crying:
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Neat thing about a removable battery: it lets you swap out for a bigger unit.
I have a 6700 mAh battery in my H918, and haven't plugged in before bedtime in months. I can stream hours of video with full brightness and no thought for power. And that's the small option, the ZeroLemon unit is 10000 mAh, I just don't need that much.
In the end, the phone is only as smart as the user. I guess we can lead a horse to water.... but we can't keep removable batteries on the market if the people are too limited to use them :crying:
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6700mAh battery, no thanks. I'm content with a normal size battery that can get me normal size battery life like other devices. Then a spare on those rear occasions I need it. The V20 should be commended for having a removable batter (probably the last higher end smart phone to offer one), but not it's battery performance.
I'm smart enough to want normal battery life out of a normal size battery, removable or not. :crying:
I voted "bad" because real world battery life is actually inferior to the 2012 Samsung Galaxy Note II it replaces. Naturally in lab tests the V20 massively outlasts the 2012 vintage Note II but I don't live in a lab. It's the only aspect of the phone that isn't a considerable improvement. I knew that if I listen to streams using the high quality audio with decent earphones the V20 isn't going to last like a modern Samsung or iPhone, or even Xiaomi, but I am a little surprised how it's not better. The replaceable battery is a necessity, not a luxury. Anyway it is mitigated by Quick Charge and the fact that the device seems to me to be just about beyond criticism in every other meaningful way.
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6700mAh battery, no thanks. I'm content with a normal size battery that can get me normal size battery life like other devices. Then a spare on those rear occasions I need it. The V20 should be commended for having a removable batter (probably the last higher end smart phone to offer one), but not it's battery performance.
I'm smart enough to want normal battery life out of a normal size battery, removable or not. :crying:
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Yes the battery life sucks stock but they do make a 4200mah now that fits in stock place no issues. I bought it and I get 6hours 44 minutes screen on. Much much better then the stock 3200 with no added size as it fits in stock compartment and cover.
Recommend to any V20 user.
So, I dunno what these reviewers and youtubers are up to with these phones, but got mine earlier today (XL), roughly 7 hours ago, and have been using it since.
Phone arrived with 75% charge. Only charging I have done was about 2 20 minute trips plugged into my trucks USB port for Android Auto.
I have everything enabled such as location, soli, smooth display, etc. I use adaptive brightness, ambient eq is off.
I have been very happy with battery life so far. Reviewers are paid to be critical.
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My battery life has been excellent as well. I have no idea what these reviewers are doing.
Reviewers forget they have every battery draining social app going, bet they leave Bluetooth, location etc on. Plus they use the camera a but load for testing
I am in agreement as well. seems to be fairly strong with light use and force 90hz checked in dev options for me also. Definitely had worse phones before, definitely better also though. Don't understand the hate though - Pixel 4 XL= 3,700mAh battery, 6.3 in screen vs 1+ 7 pro 4,000mAh 6.67 in. Contrary to popular talk the oneplus 7 pro battery isn't amazing either which is why I don't get the shade.
It all depends what you consider good. Personally I think 6hrs of screen on time staring with a fully charged battery is good, 8+ hours is fantastic. So far the Pixel 4 XL is just barely hitting that good mark for me.
I'm sure that once a few weeks have gone by and kernel devs are on this like a fat kid on a cupcake we'll see guides for extra battery life and other optimizations.
So I've had the Pixel 4 XL , for 3 full days in the UK now.
Day 1 SOT was 6 hrs 3 mins with 9% left
Day 2 SOT was 6 hrs 15 min with 4 % left
Day 3 SOT is 5 hrs 1 min with 18% left.
The battery is more than adequate. I had the 3 XL which would get a max of just over 4 hours. I'm new to the forum but I have screenshots as well but don't have a clue how to upload lol. The phone is on 90hz at all times too but most times you can't really tell. It's an amazing phone so fast, the disappointment is video quality again and some of the pic quality are a similar levels to 3 XL but I need to fully utilise the camera.
Boy I don't know what you guys are doing because I have been getting nowhere close to that in screen on time. I'm at 3 hours is SOT right now with only 30% left
So I've had the Pixel 4 XL , for 3 full days in the UK now.
Day 1 SOT was 6 hrs 3 mins with 9% left
Day 2 SOT was 6 hrs 15 min with 4 % left
Day 3 SOT is 5 hrs 1 min with 18% left.
The battery is more than adequate. I had the 3 XL which would get a max of just over 4 hours. I'm new to the forum but I have screenshots as well but don't have a clue how to upload lol. The phone is on 90hz at all times too but most times you can't really tell. It's an amazing phone so fast, the disappointment is video quality again and some of the pic quality are a similar levels to 3 XL but I need to fully utilise the camera.
**Update day 4 so 6.49am in the UK, fell asleep so didn't charge currently on 27% with SOT of 4 hrs 3 min which will give me 6 hours comfortably to 0%. After day 1 I forced 90hz on, tap to wake on, pick up wake on too. I may add a few more days updates if anyone is interested.
Battery of my Pixel 4 XL is at best "meh" so far. I noticed problems with several apps running away and draining battery which I would blame on compatibility issues with Android 10. Overall though even without the apps the battery drains quite fast under normal usage conditions. Compared to my S10+ and iPhone 11 Pro the battery is much worse, especially when compared to the latter. It is definitely not a worry-free, all-day phone. The reviews critical of the battery life were spot on. I cannot even imagine the smaller Pixel 4. It probably cannot get through half of one day without a recharge. Reminds me of my BlackBerry Z10.
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Battery of my Pixel 4 XL is at best "meh" so far. I noticed problems with several apps running away and draining battery which I would blame on compatibility issues with Android 10. Overall though even without the apps the battery drains quite fast under normal usage conditions. Compared to my S10+ and iPhone 11 Pro the battery is much worse, especially when compared to the latter. It is definitely not a worry-free, all-day phone. The reviews critical of the battery life were spot on. I cannot even imagine the smaller Pixel 4. It probably cannot get through half of one day without a recharge. Reminds me of my BlackBerry Z10.
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Weird. Another test I found, stares a real good battery life as well. Compared to
iPhone 11 Pro Max 4000mAh
Note 10 3500mAh
OnePlus 7T Pro 4000mAh
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I've been using my 4XL fairly heavy for the last twenty hours: six hours and one minute SOT, 20% battery remaining, four hours left predicted. I'm having no complaints with this battery. The phone's been in out-of-the-box operating condition, too. I haven't tweaked the phone into a 'Maximum Battery Saving Mode', but I did turn off the "Wop" and "Bong" motion gestures.
I've been running it through the ringer and I really have no complaints so far on the battery.
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Weird. Another test I found, stares a real good battery life as well. Compared to
iPhone 11 Pro Max 4000mAh
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Really don't know what to tell you. As I said I have the other two phones as direct comparison (I've had the S10+ since launch day, same with the iPhone 11 Pro). For my workload and style of usage - heavy email, medium texting, lots of consumption of reading content throughout the day, news, streaming music about 1-2 hours per day, plus about 30-60 minutes of video on average it is definitely noticeably below the level of the other two phones, especially the iPhone 11 Pro which has kind of crazy-good battery life. I don't turn off any features to "save battery" (never believed in that because I should not need to adapt to the phone). I run auto-brightness, ambient EQ, use the high-refresh display (though not forced to 90Hz), smart stay, blue light filter and switch to dark mode at sunset, etc. Smartwatch (Gear S3) is always in tow. I can get between 4-4.5 hours of screen-on time before the battery is basically out.
I don't know why people are so focused on screen on time as there are so many variables behind it. Could have one person that's just texting all day, social media and some calls while mostly on wi-fi and be like zomg 8+ hours SOT BEAST MODE! Then you have someone that's watching YT videos, doing some gaming, pictures etc and on data the majority of the time but only gets like 4 hours SOT and gets branded as bad. People seem to forget as long as you make it through the day that's what should matter the most.
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I don't know why people are so focused on screen on time as there are so many variables behind it. Could have one person that's just texting all day, social media and some calls while mostly on wi-fi and be like zomg 8+ hours SOT BEAST MODE! Then you have someone that's watching YT videos, doing some gaming, pictures etc and on data the majority of the time but only gets like 4 hours SOT and gets branded as bad. People seem to forget as long as you make it through the day that's what should matter the most.
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Spot on and then you'll get someone seeing someone else on 8 hours SOT and wanting to copy their settings to try and get the same result on a completely different usage pattern then complain they can't get it.
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I don't know why people are so focused on screen on time as there are so many variables behind it. Could have one person that's just texting all day, social media and some calls while mostly on wi-fi and be like zomg 8+ hours SOT BEAST MODE! Then you have someone that's watching YT videos, doing some gaming, pictures etc and on data the majority of the time but only gets like 4 hours SOT and gets branded as bad. People seem to forget as long as you make it through the day that's what should matter the most.
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Spot on and then you'll get someone seeing someone else on 8 hours SOT and wanting to copy their settings to try and get the same result on a completely different usage pattern then complain they can't get it.
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Everyone knows the saying "your mileage may vary" but when a majority of people are showing 4.5-5.5 hours SOT, that is disappointing for a phone of this price range. There'll always be exceptions and people getting 6-7 hours consistently but maybe even people only getting 4 hours. That's the YMMV part for this phone. Now for something like the iPhone 11 models, people are consistently getting around 8 hours and even more on a full charge. That's a good 3.5-2.5 hours more SOT. For me I'll be happy with what I used to get the first year or so with my 2 XL which was 6-7 hours and an occasional 8 hour.
It's too soon for me to judge my phone but yes I'll be disappointed if I only get 4.5-5.5 hours but I'll deal with it.
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Spot on and then you'll get someone seeing someone else on 8 hours SOT and wanting to copy their settings to try and get the same result on a completely different usage pattern then complain they can't get it.
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I'm hitting over 7 hour SOTs for the past couple of days and I'm pleased with that. However I also went through each app and restricted background battery usage on every app that I felt wouldn't negativity impact me if imposed it.
this may or may not fit in this thread, but figured i would post it as its battery related
Anyone having issues with idle drain? ... mine seems to be held awake quite a bit, and i cannot figure out why. Same apps as my pixel 3xl, same everything.
Installed gsam, and its essentially saying the system is what is keeping it awake
Was wondering if anyone else had this issue, or is anyone has any ideas as to what may be causing this
Any help would be appreciated
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this may or may not fit in this thread, but figured i would post it as its battery related
Anyone having issues with idle drain? ... mine seems to be held awake quite a bit, and i cannot figure out why. Same apps as my pixel 3xl, same everything.
Installed gsam, and its essentially saying the system is what is keeping it awake
Was wondering if anyone else had this issue, or is anyone has any ideas as to what may be causing this
Any help would be appreciated
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Install BBS https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 Take a log per instructions in the OP and post it. They'll help you figure it out.
I received my Watch 3 last week. So far I like the watch but it's battery life is horrid! My original Samsung Watch would run 4 to 5 days between charges. The Watch 3 gets, maybe 2.5 days between charges. Anyone else notice this drop in run time??
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I received my Watch 3 last week. So far I like the watch but it's battery life is horrid! My original Samsung Watch would run 4 to 5 days between charges. The Watch 3 gets, maybe 2.5 days between charges. Anyone else notice this drop in run time??
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Do you got the LTE version or wifi only?
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I'm not impressed by the battery myself so far compared to the GW1. I got the 45mm (bluetooth). Charged it last night. Wore it to bed, this morning it had already dropped 7% just sleeping. Now its 11am and the battery is at 76% and I haven't even been playing with the watch. App says it wil llast 1 day 18 hrs, but based off the usage already I don't believe that.
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I'm not impressed by the battery myself so far compared to the GW1. I got the 45mm (bluetooth). Charged it last night. Wore it to bed, this morning it had already dropped 7% just sleeping. Now its 11am and the battery is at 76% and I haven't even been playing with the watch. App says it wil llast 1 day 18 hrs, but based off the usage already I don't believe that.
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Is it tracking your heartbeat or sleep ?
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Well, there are more sensors and a smaller battery for starters.
But I think the default settings will be checking your heartbeat regularly, working out if you are...working out, and if you sleep wearing it the sensors will be working through the night. Go into the health settings (both phone and watch) and check what you have enabled. You might be surprised.
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The GW3 - 45mm has a smaller battery (340mAh) than the GW - 46mm (472mAh).
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Do you got the LTE version or wifi only?
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Bluetooth / wifi version.
I have 45mm LTE version, but not activated and using it on wifi/bluetooth. I disable most of the notifications from my phone - I have the watch mainly to be a watch and for fitness/health. My average burn, with AOD, is between 3-4% an hour. Brightness set to 4 with auto low light brightness.
Just found the continuous monitoring (heart & stress) feature. I'll play around with that to see how it goes.
The bigger downside, especially if battery life is an issue for you, is this think takes 2.5 hours to charge fully. That is SLOW for a battery this size. So 30 minutes on the charger while you shower only gets you like 20%.
I've found that music has used 8% of battery, I don't even use the music app, I don't think it can be removed, so what can I do?
Haha... I was actually thinking the battery was much better than I expected! Mind you, I'm coming from Android Wear, so that might explain it.... previously had a Tag Connected Modular 45 and for the first week ( until the first update ) I'd get about 10 hours from a full charge
As has been said, smaller battery and more sensors. It's a pain ( especially if you want to use sleep tracking ) but I've taken to just topping it up whenever I'm sitting watching TV or whatever - so plenty of short bursts of charge rather than waiting for it to run down. A few Qi chargers dotted around the place helps.
I agonised over the decision to buy this over the Garmin Fenix 6 Pro for quite a while - I love the idea of a trans-reflective display on a watch and wish there were more of them, and the battery life is So much better. The fact is though there's no perfect option currently in the smartwatch arena, GW3 has best features and arguably the smoothesr experience but only adequate battery, awful Bixby, and lack of Google stuff like maps ( which I found really useful for walking around cities, Here WeGo is a poor substitute IMHO. ) Garmin have better battery life but not as nice to look at ( again IMHO ) and even worse ecosystem, Android Wear has the best ecosystem and assistant with many options to choose from, but generally rubbish battery life and in my experience laggy/glitchy/buggy software. Apple watch isn't really an option for Android users, though I dislike square watches generally anyway and dislike Apple almost as much :laugh:
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Haha... I was actually thinking the battery was much better than I expected! Mind you, I'm coming from Android Wear, so that might explain it.... previously had a Tag Connected Modular 45 and for the first week ( until the first update ) I'd get about 10 hours from a full charge
As has been said, smaller battery and more sensors. It's a pain ( especially if you want to use sleep tracking ) but I've taken to just topping it up whenever I'm sitting watching TV or whatever - so plenty of short bursts of charge rather than waiting for it to run down. A few Qi chargers dotted around the place helps.
I agonised over the decision to buy this over the Garmin Fenix 6 Pro for quite a while - I love the idea of a trans-reflective display on a watch and wish there were more of them, and the battery life is So much better. The fact is though there's no perfect option currently in the smartwatch arena, GW3 has best features and arguably the smoothesr experience but only adequate battery, awful Bixby, and lack of Google stuff like maps ( which I found really useful for walking around cities, Here WeGo is a poor substitute IMHO. ) Garmin have better battery life but not as nice to look at ( again IMHO ) and even worse ecosystem, Android Wear has the best ecosystem and assistant with many options to choose from, but generally rubbish battery life and in my experience laggy/glitchy/buggy software. Apple watch isn't really an option for Android users, though I dislike square watches generally anyway and dislike Apple almost as much :laugh:
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There are a lot of dilemmas in there mate! But I think what you chose in the end was the right choice. Tizen is a very reliable and optimised O/S and whilst there aren't billions of apps for it, who really cares? The one's you will use the most are either baked in or available 3rd party, and yep, Bixby is rubbish, I want to love it but I gave up. I do agree the Apple watch is an ugly square thing that looks like a fitness band, everyone wearing them so no individuality, the GW3 is classy and watch like! The battery isn't really that bad, will easily get you through a day or two and most of us charge overnight or a quick top up in the morning if sleep monitoring.
Enjoy!!
With blanaced settings you can easily get 2+ days of battery and more if you set the heart rate monitor to manual because heart rate will be used automatically during work out so I dont see a benefit of having it all the time or every 10 mins to measure my heart unless you have health issues and you need to track it, bixby is only useful to set a reminder, alarm or call someone (generally it wont recognize names properly so I use 'wife' for example instead of the name to avoid this issue) 'Hi bixby call wife' works good 'Hi bixby text wife' works fine too, Here wego i find it works better if you have the here we go phone app installed and everything you do from the phone it syncs back to the watch app.
compared to my active 2 watch the battery seems about the same for how i use it and sensors i have active. I get almost 2 days . when i'm on a normal routine i put my watch on the charger when i wake up to shower and get ready and ive never really noticed issues with not having the watch dead the next day and if i forgot to take it off i would still have battery for the day. im sure millage will vary depending on what your doing but still would expect a full day battery.
My expectations must be a lot lower , makes me wonder what amount of time are most expecting to get from a smart watch . I always thought getting about two days was great and as long as i got a full day into the next i was happy lol just my two cents
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...so I dont see a benefit of having it all the time or every 10 mins to measure my heart unless you have health issues and you need to track it..
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It's definitely helpful in sleep tracking to estimate the various stages of sleep. Agree constant monitoring is overkill (except in a workout), but every 10 minutes can be useful for tracking training progress and recovery.
From what I can tell, every 10 minutes doesn't drain battery much. I'm getting @ 3% drain per hour with that, and about half is my display.
I tend to think big battery drains (which I disable) are Bixby always listening, and any "gesture to wake" features. Haven't analyzed it, but my suspicion is "gesture to wake" uses more battery than AOD.
I use the watch for 5 days (SM-R845F) ...
-10% during 1 hour of use.
Off: WIFI, Buetooth, GPS
ON: 4G
No syncing.
I only use it as a watch!
What could be the problem? Is the clock bad?
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Is it tracking your heartbeat or sleep ?
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I set mine to "GoodNight" and it still tracks heart rate and sleep. Amazingly on this setting the battery usage is minimal (single digits) so there plenty of juice left in the am.
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apprentice said:
There are a lot of dilemmas in there mate! But I think what you chose in the end was the right choice. Tizen is a very reliable and optimised O/S and whilst there aren't billions of apps for it, who really cares? The one's you will use the most are either baked in or available 3rd party, and yep, Bixby is rubbish, I want to love it but I gave up. I do agree the Apple watch is an ugly square thing that looks like a fitness band, everyone wearing them so no individuality, the GW3 is classy and watch like! The battery isn't really that bad, will easily get you through a day or two and most of us charge overnight or a quick top up in the morning if sleep monitoring.
Enjoy!!
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I disabled Bixby on my Note 9 (which was not easy) and even harder to re-enable as at first I thought the disablement on the phone was preventing it from running on the watch. but I am happy now that i got Google Assistant to also work on my watch (except for alarms and reminders (for which you still need Bixby)
I think the battery life is poor especially if used actively during a run or cycling.
Batt life is not the best...
So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
Try disabling all power management.
In Developer options>standby apps all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is running.
Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework are known hogs.
Disable all the bloatware, turn off auto sync for gmail, turn off all feedback.
You'll need to sort it out and optimize it. Took me months to get my 10+ sorted out. Fortunately it's running on Pie so I had more diagnostic options.
Returning is a thought as 5G may have been poorly implemented and another source of power drain. I think everything after the 10+ 4G both hardware and OS are train wrecks... I see very little incentive to "upgrade".
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
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It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
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Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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Sorry about that ahaha changed it now
nightoo said:
It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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Reloads -never- find the root cause and many times even if the problem is "fixed" it eventually returns.
Exceptions; old loads, software induced bootloops, viruses, and major firmware updates.
Expect issues with the 5G devices from poor hardware implementation. No fix for this.
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
leoking3 said:
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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How much with screen off is it sucking down?
If more than 1% @ hr with AOD on it's probably Google and cloud crap running in the background.
You can optimize it to improve performance.
It's easier to do this with Pie though; Q and 11 take away critical tools and use scoped storage which wastes cpu cycles.
Get Karma Firewall and a package disabler like this one;
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Regardless of the model or OS version most carrier phones will need to be optimized for good battery life and optimum performance.
My 10+ was a hot running bandwidth hungry hog until I toned it down. Today it's hard to believe it's that same machine.
You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
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Well, i believe what you are saying about battery life, but what i have seen so far is promising, i mean when S21 Ultra with Exynos 2100 beats iphone 11 Pro Max and 12 Pro Max, i guess that's a good sign!! But for sure, we use our phones in different way than each others because maybe you use it with 4G/5G enabled almost all the time while these tests are just using Wifi and maybe without any SIM card which means the battery consumption will be minimum at this part.
I have S20 Ultra with Snapdragon 865, i get like an average of 6 hours SoT and if S21 Ultra Exynos gives me the same SoT, i'll be happy!!
SOT is not everything...we travel, we move, you cant accept a phone that gives you 12 hours of standby in total. This is bs and useless, you cant rely on such a phone.
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You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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My AT&T 10+ was not real bad (or good) the first few days. After enabling power management it went to hell.
Eventually I disabled all power management and one by one tracked down the hogs.
Because of dependencies simply disabling and/or turning off say Google Transport and Google Framework isn't enough, firewall blocking Google Play Services* then clearing data on all 3 periodically finally stopped this hog dead in its tracks. These will run in the background when the screen is off stealing power for nothing. Sometimes the Google apks are misreported as other Google apks presumably because of the interlinking dependencies.
Try using Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker.
Developer options>running apks/cache can also yield clues. With an unrooted phone there's some serious game playing to track this garbage down.
Anything app that's cloud or carrier is bad... lol.
Disable all feedback and syncing except for texting; manually sync gmail.
*needs to be unblocked occasionally for gmail to download and for Playstore (another apk you should disable/firewall block when not using).
Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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That's a thought that's worth a try.
From what I've read even disabling 5G doesn't completely stop it's parasitic battery drain.
Maybe the latest generation chipsets are better but early 5G was poorly implemented giving a marginal speed increase on most phones of 20% when available.
Is this on the snapdragon or exynos variant?
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I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
My 10+ draws roughly 1%@hr* with AOD on.
SOT draw varies between 9-12%@hr
Roughly 10%@hr watching vids on Samsung internet with surfing on Brave being the highest usage.
I consider it fairly optimized at this point.
*4300 mAh battery with little degradation.
No 5G running on Pie so not scoped storage either.
Figures are from a charge range of between roughly 40-65% as I rarely charged beyond 70% or discharge deeper than 30%.
Actual usage be more if I had started at 100% because of the power density difference through the power range ie 1% at 20 is far less watts than 1% at 100%.
A/V=watts. Less voltage means less overall mAh per % plus the additional losses due to voltage stepup power conversionas you dip towards 30% The closer to 100%, the higher the voltage with more available mAhs per battery% as well as less stepup voltage power converter losses.
A phone's wattage and V+'are constant so as the battery voltage decreases it draws more current ie mAhs.
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
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You are also right, but , when you used something that does both keeping you up to date, and having a brilliant battery life, then it becomes disappointing when you change it for one that doesnt.