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Is it really worth the price?

Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?

I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.

Not for me. I got a s8 and can get a great deal on note 8

avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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exactly! Also very happy with my oneplus 6 here

I think it's too expensive as well. Happy with my XZ2.

I think looking at the s9 plus or the lg g7 both have the same specs and are around 500 dollars now so yes it is very expensive for the premium to have the stylus.

Everyone is on here complaining about the price but honestly the note has always been the more expensive device. The Note 8 was $990 when it came out and the S9 Plus was $930. I mean the higher the memory and higher the ram yes its going to get more expensive just like everything when you get a upgraded model. If you don't like the price go with the base model. It's pretty simple or just dont get it period.

or, get a note 8, for a ton less, and almost identical features...

if you have the note 8 it isn't worth it , if you have s8 plus you might want to due to dual cameras you missed last year. I don't think its worth it right now 1000$ is a bit too much.
Specially when the s9+ can do the same thing as this phone besides the pen and the note 8 already has 90% of s pen features (except for useless pen remote thingy).
The only encouraging upgrade is the battery [but we haven't seen battery drain tests comparison yet]. The storage is not encouraging why? most of us have 128 GB SD Cards in our pockets and 512 GB SD Cards are expensive.
Make no mistake its a great phone but its only worth it if you use the pen and if you find the s9+ or note 8 battery capacity not enough for you , other wise the s9+ or the note 8 (depending if you want to shoot 4k 60 fps or 1080p 60 fps for 60 fps videos) is pretty good and almost has the same Camera features [Even in low light they are VERY close with all 3 of them having dual cameras and the amazing live focus features].
Personally I rather wait 1 year for price cuts [considering you have either note 8 / s9+].
I bought my Note 8 new for 600$ because I couldn't justify 950$. Now Note 8 is 600$ , I would wait until the price goes down.

Definitely worth it.

just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera

ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland

avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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Everything is expensive in Switzerland! Ive been there a bunch of times and the fordt time was shocked at the cost of things.
I still love it there though, beautiful country.
But for me totally worth every penny, all $1500 of them
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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Yeaaa I understand that. But for the same specs almost u could get an note 8 or s9+

netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
better camera
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do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera
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Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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the s9 has been a flop sales figures wise though....I seriously suspect N9 price will plunge in October / pre xmas sales and competition with Apple X11 or Huawei. Samsung are loosing ground and I don't believe this does anything to stop that....

My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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Agreed.
Why buy the same phone as last year but with a wireless s pen that takes shots. I am still waiting for samsung to update their selfie camera to be as good as the back.
Also you are right about the argument "cuz cpu will be faster yeaa cuz its a car not a smartphone that goes 1 milisecond faster in opening Apps than past year"
Since when did Note 8 lag. And if Clock speed is the argument then you will just upgrade every 6 month due to fastest processor and waste your money
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knight900 said:
My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
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Good for you. Bad for every body else specially the uk.

bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
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i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.

netnerd said:
i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.
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Invalid argument. Did you know the note 9 has lower ppi than the note 8 with the same screen resolution. Will that stop you from buying Note 9?
Oh and the s10 will be 2 miliseconds faster,will you buy it too?
The speed you won't notice unless you compare them side by side. In your daily tasks you won't just say "Hm i saved 2 miliseconds." Again unless this is a racing car,this is not a valid argument.
Beside the fact nore 9 and note 8 software is the same.
And 0.1 increase in screen size and lower ppi.

Isn't 4G LTE good enough? Fast enough ?
I wonder why wireless carriers throwing million$ and million$ to build 5G networks

Redmi K20 Pro Or Oneplus 7 ?

Hi everyone,
I want to buy a smartphone - but stuck between Op 7 or K20 pro ? Can't make my mind - which one should I buy ?
Any suggestion/ advice will be highly appreciated.

They are pretty similar. Run on the same platform, CPU, GPU. Both AMOLED, same resolution.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has an audio jack, OP7 does not.
OP7 has stereo speakers, K20p/9Tp does not.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has FM radio, OP7 does not.
I believe the OP7 has OIS on the main camera, K20pro/9Tpro does not.
The OP7 has a (small) notch in the screen. The K20pro/9Tpro has a popup front facing camera.
K20pro/9Tpro has a somewhat bigger battery.
For me personally, the popup cam is not a problem because I don't use face-unlock or take selfies, and having a full notch-less display is very nice.
I imagine that if you're the kind of person that uses the front facing camera a lot, the popup camera becomes annoying pretty fast. (but I don't know because I'm not that person)
FM radio is a feature I really like to have, but I'm probably alone in that one.

touch of jobo said:
They are pretty similar. Run on the same platform, CPU, GPU. Both AMOLED, same resolution.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has an audio jack, OP7 does not.
OP7 has stereo speakers, K20p/9Tp does not.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has FM radio, OP7 does not.
I believe the OP7 has OIS on the main camera, K20pro/9Tpro does not.
The OP7 has a (small) notch in the screen. The K20pro/9Tpro has a popup front facing camera.
K20pro/9Tpro has a somewhat bigger battery.
For me personally, the popup cam is not a problem because I don't use face-unlock or take selfies, and having a full notch-less display is very nice.
I imagine that if you're the kind of person that uses the front facing camera a lot, the popup camera becomes annoying pretty fast. (but I don't know because I'm not that person)
FM radio is a feature I really like to have, but I'm probably alone in that one.
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Thanks mate for your detailed comparison .
I don't use face-unlock and selfies like you. So it 'll not be any issue for me. Though I don't like Pop-Up camera. But I really like stereo speakers.
BTW, how's the battery life of K20 pro ?
OP7 has almost no development - unlike the K 20 Pro.
But I really don't like the bootloader unlocking procedure of Xiaomi. It's really annoying (really)to me.
Would you throw some lights on the multi-media experiences of K20 Pro - 3.5 mm audio quality, watching video/movie experience etc.? Really it's very important to me.
Which one would be better for multi-media between these two ?
Thank you once again for your reply.

K20 Pro has a HiFi DAC built-in. It's 24 bits / 192 KHz.
So it has the ability to play High Definition audio.
You don't really need to unlock the bootloader unless you really need root for something or actually want to change ROMs.
I used the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool to disable apps that I don't use. MIUI isn't that bad, for now at least.

I was confused about that last few days, finally bought k20 pro, for 3.5 mm audio jack and price difference. audio, movies and camera are great.

Micheal86 said:
[...]how's the battery life of K20 pro ?
[...]Which one would be better for multi-media between these two ?
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I am probably not the best judge. I don't have an OP7, have only used this device (European 9Tpro) for under 2 weeks now and my previous phone was almost 5 years old. To me, watching video on the notch-less OLED and listening through simple wired earphones is very good.
Battery life is good. In normal day to day use when I'm not traveling, I can charge it every 2 days. In heavy use it will still last a full day easy. I have everything on all the time (wifi, sync, location, bluetooth, ambient display).
I plan to keep mine stock and locked for at least the first month, but yes from what I read on these forums, unlocking and flashing is more cumbersome and has more pitfalls than I'm used to from HTC devices.

My previous phone was OP7.
k20pro 256gb + 27watt charger costs less than Op7. So price wise this is a win.
Face unlock is a breeze in Op7. Miss that comfort on k20 pro. Though always on fingerprint is good & serves the purpose.
4000 mah battery & miui battery management works wonders. Always end up with 30+ at the end of the day. On Op7, it would be about less than 20% by the end of the day.
Oxygen os is really clean. But it lacks serious customisation. Miui is eyecandy & won't get boring. This is probably the only factor for me to switch from op7.
Also, since op7 was just a minor upgrade from 6T, better to wait for Op7t (with 90hz).
But beware of your purchase now, the price of K20PRO will see drop Faster than op7 in very short period of time. (Already price cut of Rs 2000 announced in India (flipkart))

U should also check the asus rog 2 if u are not bothered by large bezels

Anonda said:
I was confused about that last few days, finally bought k20 pro, for 3.5 mm audio jack and price difference. audio, movies and camera are great.
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Thanks for sharing.
Would you share your feedback regarding my doubts ?
Have you satified with your K20 Pro ?

lrcquest said:
My previous phone was OP7.
k20pro 256gb + 27watt charger costs less than Op7. So price wise this is a win.
Face unlock is a breeze in Op7. Miss that comfort on k20 pro. Though always on fingerprint is good & serves the purpose.
4000 mah battery & miui battery management works wonders. Always end up with 30+ at the end of the day. On Op7, it would be about less than 20% by the end of the day.
Oxygen os is really clean. But it lacks serious customisation. Miui is eyecandy & won't get boring. This is probably the only factor for me to switch from op7.
Also, since op7 was just a minor upgrade from 6T, better to wait for Op7t (with 90hz).
But beware of your purchase now, the price of K20PRO will see drop Faster than op7 in very short period of time. (Already price cut of Rs 2000 announced in India (flipkart))
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Excellent comparison. :good:
Really appreciate .
Totally agree with you - OP7 is a minor upgrade from 6T. And Miui is eyecandy and has more customisations.
BTW, the same question I want to ask you - Are satisfied by switching from OP7 to Redmi K20 Pro ?

Rhoban said:
K20 Pro has a HiFi DAC built-in. It's 24 bits / 192 KHz.
So it has the ability to play High Definition audio.
You don't really need to unlock the bootloader unless you really need root for something or actually want to change ROMs.
I used the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool to disable apps that I don't use. MIUI isn't that bad, for now at least.
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Thanks for sharing the most important feature - audio quality of K20 Pro.
What's your feedback about the headphone audio quality of K20 Pro?
Is it really awesome or average ?
I like to use rooted device. And that's why I don't like Xiaomi for their bootloader unlocking policy.
Appreciate your ADB/Fastboot procedure for deblauting.
BTW, I had some bad experiences with RN7 Pro - MTP incompatibility. My Windows PC can't recognized RN7 Pro and can't install the drivers. And finally I'd to sale RN7 Pro due to this issue. Is there any MTP/ Driver issue with K20 Pro ?

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if op7 has no notch i would have gotten it to try this oxygen os ,coming from pocophone which is mine spare phone now ,glad i dont to face with a notch all day , to me op7 just look like a 6t , by the way i have no issue connecting mine pc (win 7) to k20 pro

Yes, i really am enjoying the k20 pro. Yesterday, the android 10 OTA was received. So that also is covered.
And miui 11 is on the way by end of the year.
Btw, if u are looking for Op7T for the 90hz display, K20PRO can also reach around 80hz thru mods. Both are 1080 oled panels.
On a related note, asus rog 2 has got some Insane specs for a sweet price (128/8 ) Rs 38k.

K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....

Micheal86 said:
Thanks for sharing.
Would you share your feedback regarding my doubts ?
Have you satified with your K20 Pro ?
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Just the display looking small, because my previous device is Mi Max 2..
all others are great,

maddy143ded said:
K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....
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Max 2000 drop it seems.

lrcquest said:
Max 2000 drop it seems.
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Nope Max drop will be ₹3500 if you are taking into account the initial ₹2000 into account. Even in current sale a minimum card discount is going to be there for atleast ₹1500. As a loyalist I feel that companies should atleast hold onto their prices for 6 months man. If you ever want to resell your device within this timefram now you will face a huge challenge trying to resell. Not that I would be doing that. Its about percieved difference of going from Base bottom Budget Brand to a Premium Brand... They went back to being a budget only Brand with this move. Thats really Bad. I would gladly buy their Premium range of Phones of the Mi Series(I owned a MI3 and Mi5) But they don't release them here in India anymore..
If a Brand wants to induce a loyalty in its customer base they should be prepared to be loyal in return. This doesnt feel like loyalty..

maddy143ded said:
K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....
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It doesn't bother me much. I bought it for Rs. 25999 during the alpha sale.

maddy143ded said:
Nope Max drop will be ₹3500 if you are taking into account the initial ₹2000 into account. Even in current sale a minimum card discount is going to be there for atleast ₹1500. As a loyalist I feel that companies should atleast hold onto their prices for 6 months man. If you ever want to resell your device within this timefram now you will face a huge challenge trying to resell. Not that I would be doing that. Its about percieved difference of going from Base bottom Budget Brand to a Premium Brand... They went back to being a budget only Brand with this move. Thats really Bad. I would gladly buy their Premium range of Phones of the Mi Series(I owned a MI3 and Mi5) But they don't release them here in India anymore..
If a Brand wants to induce a loyalty in its customer base they should be prepared to be loyal in return. This doesnt feel like loyalty..
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probably mi 9 pro is out , they wants to clear stocks , anyway their mi series doesnt hold the price well

Question is this phone still the best bang for the buck in 2022

Is this still the best bang for the buck phone in 2022? custom ROMs still working good? issues ironed out? ShOuLd I bUy ThIs OvER a SaMmY pHoNe LiKe a A52?!?!??!

There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.

Imho yes but only when you use custom kernel and rom. If you stick with stock ones especially Miui 13 it really sucks, Miui is too resource heavy for 732g SOC. For example when driving I like to listen to spotify in the background and use google maps even though these tasks are fairly lightweight this phone with Miui 13 struggles to run them without stutters and freezes. If you're okay with running stock android like rom, that is when the SOC shines. It runs much more apps than spotify and maps no problem real fluid.

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There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
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i'm kinda a die hard SD card and headphone jack dude - so this does limit my choices...i mean i had my galaxy note 4 for 6 years (with roms) lol and I'm just starting to get over the fact I won't be able to easily replace batteries in these new phones...ugh. thanks for your sobering input

no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..

Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?

The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.

In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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1q3er5 said:
interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
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I like OneUI a bit better, however Redmi has a better build quality and better camera.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.

david003 said:
Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Everything is more expensive in EU.

david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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i found at same prime when buyed.. 260 euro for note 5 pro, 280 for a52

Note 10 Pro has proven to be still better that the next gen, freshly released Note 11 Pro. Easy to repair because screens are on the 120 bucks mark while the back cover is solid plastic, very nice to see and touch and won't break if you pry it for a battery change. Also the silicon cover is great from preventing fall damage.
After debloating its very balanced on any task, but don't expect flagship peak performance by any means yet battery lasts a lot (on short usage sessions it lasted me 3 days without charging, 1,5-2 with continuous/intense usage). Imho, after years going Samsung-only I had enough with Knox nonsense, increasing sales pricing and hard-to-repair phones.

According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
The Note 11 pro review I saw at gsmarena would suggest that the Note 11 pro is mostly a downgrade from the Note 10 pro, except for the 5g bands.
Edit to add: There's a 4g and a 5g version for it.

Yes, still the best in this price range of ~230 USD.
Samsung A52 costs 390 USD lol, not even comparable here

david003 said:
According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Yeah but 5G isn't available anywhere, plus the more users move into new cell tech the more smooth the 4G is going to be. Would not consider unless you're into high speed hype.
david003 said:
According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Realization just struck me. I have the Glacial Blue version that, along with Vintage Bronze are in fact frosted glass while there's not much about the black version which seems to be more common here. I got blinded by disassembly videos where non-Pro versions were considered the same thing as for Pro, so I just made a mistake. Guess I will eventually challenge myself to remove it in future whenever necessary, such as a battery change. They still look pretty simple and solid to remove and the glass lens vessel is separate tho (right, Apple?). Thanks for pointing out!

Yes, personally I don't care for 5g. 4g LTE is fine. One thing that both of the Note 11 Pro models (4g & 5g) have are increased 4g bands, too, that make them more compatible in the U.S. (bands 12 & 66). If 5g or those additional 4g bands matter to someone, those are improvements/features to consider.
I also saw replacement backs for the Note 10 pro, for around $5, and watched a video that made it look easy to change. Hopefully never have to do that.

aleMarvel said:
no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
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I have no problems with ANX, deep sleep, battery drain, etc. on my RN10P running the Project Sakura ROM. It's cool to prefer one phone over another, but spreading misinformation doesn't help anyone.

Development for this phone really isn't in a good place.
If you look at the latest posts on each of the ROMs, there's either big issues with heavy battery drain, touch issues or microphone problems.
Sad times

Question Who has a Realme GT2?

Soo, anyone here who has the phone?
If so, do you have the Chinese or Global version and how are you finding it?
Seriously considering getting this phone.

Seems nobody? Well I just ordered one for myself, Chinese phone but apparently the seller can have it flashed to the Global ROM - so will take a while to arrive in South Africa but will report back once I receive it.
I figured it was not worth spending the extra money on the Pro version as the differences are the cameras and SoC. I'd rather have the non fisheye wide angle and the normal macros and not the microscope camera and I feel the SD888 will be more than sufficient for me. Do not play games on my phone much.

I purchase it today from amazon spain... it is little to big for me but i will give him a chance... definitly best buy flagship. I am buying him because it is the cheapes phone with imx 766 and snapdragon 888. But now i have second thoughts beacuse of realme gt neo 3. It has same imx766 sensor and dimesity 8100 which is really fast with night mode processing. what you guys think about it gt2 or gt neo 3.

I have cancelled the order... dimensity 8100 and 9000 is really step up from sd 888.

m0mm0.com said:
I have cancelled the order... dimensity 8100 and 9000 is really step up from sd 888.
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I think that's all marketing bollocks, in practice I doubt the difference will be that big considering the gt 2 pro is the flagship and the neo 3 can't or should not be better than it and should be less good than the gt2. Gcam also helps a lot in night photos.
Anyway, unless you're going to import it from China the neo 3 is only coming to Europe in the summer.

I might do import it from china and dimensity 8100 can is better in everything, faster cores, low energy consumption, 5Gigapixel/s (888 2.7Gpixel/s)... I really want top notch for money. Only one thing is that it is going to be difficult to unlock bootloader but with gt2 global is problem too for now. Gcam is only problem with dimensity 8100.
I don't know what to do...mybe wait for oneplus nord 3 coz better support.

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I might do import it from china and dimensity 8100 can is better in everything, faster cores, low energy consumption, 5Gigapixel/s (888 2.7Gpixel/s)... I really want top notch for money. Only one thing is that it is going to be difficult to unlock bootloader but with gt2 global is problem too for now. Gcam is only problem with dimensity 8100.
I don't know what to do...mybe wait for oneplus nord 3 coz better support.
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I'm like you, I wanted the best of the best for the price, compared phones back to back, was willing to give 700€ for a fu*** phone, me that never paid more than 350€ for a phone and that was alot back then. haha
In the end I bought the GT2, yeah the pro has a better cpu, better screen bla bla bla and I even thought about returning it when I saw the Neo 3 was releasing like a week after I received it.
But to be honest, I'm very happy with it and honestly I don't need a better phone.
The neo 3 has a better cpu, ok, but will you notice it? To give 30min or 1h more of sot for the lower consumption?
Since you don't have the GT 2 and are willing to wait until summer then go ahead. Otherwise buy it back and you'll be happy anyway.
Oh and Nord 3 is going to be a rebranded Neo 3.

I would be really satisfied with gt2 indeed but this dimensity looking promising with photos and camera is my top priority. GT2 has really good camera and processor and i didn't think twice for buyin it but amazon didn't process my order for 15days and i cancelled order when i saw neo 3 and dimensity 8100. maybe i will buy nord 3 whichi saw it has identical spec maybe little smaller plus better support or even poco f4 with dimensity 9000 if price would be in that rang. so no new phone for another 3 months btw i'm buying new phone for like 1.5 year and i didnt even blink when i saw it on amazon for 450€ in eu. Truly flagship killer.

m0mm0.com said:
I would be really satisfied with gt2 indeed but this dimensity looking promising with photos and camera is my top priority. GT2 has really good camera and processor and i didn't think twice for buyin it but amazon didn't process my order for 15days and i cancelled order when i saw neo 3 and dimensity 8100. maybe i will buy nord 3 whichi saw it has identical spec maybe little smaller plus better support or even poco f4 with dimensity 9000 if price would be in that rang. so no new phone for another 3 months btw i'm buying new phone for like 1.5 year and i didnt even blink when i saw it on amazon for 450€ in eu. Truly flagship killer.
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I really really doubt there will be a noticeable difference in photos, even between the GT 2 and the pro there's small difference and sometimes the GT 2 is better .

i am aware of it and the biggest but for gt neo 3 is gcam.

I've had the GT2 pro (China Rom) for a few months now. Phone runs great besides the Chinese features I can't remove and not having Google assistant and gpay.
I'm just waiting for a way to flash the global ROM.

i have bought the phone eventualy from amazon... it is really nice phone and with sofware updates it is going to be bestbuy for sure. Gt2 pro forum is much more organized then GT2 but i think global gt2 is best buy for sure and sale going to explode...in this price range there is only gt2 with this specs. Thank you Realme.

m0mm0.com said:
I would be really satisfied with gt2 indeed but this dimensity looking promising with photos and camera is my top priority. GT2 has really good camera and processor and i didn't think twice for buyin it but amazon didn't process my order for 15days and i cancelled order when i saw neo 3 and dimensity 8100. maybe i will buy nord 3 whichi saw it has identical spec maybe little smaller plus better support or even poco f4 with dimensity 9000 if price would be in that rang. so no new phone for another 3 months btw i'm buying new phone for like 1.5 year and i didnt even blink when i saw it on amazon for 450€ in eu. Truly flagship killer.
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cameras on the GT 2 are better than that of Neo 3 as per multiple comparisons.

I have the global version for one month now. Really happy with it. Photos are not the best but décents and gcam can be installed. Battery life is great 5 to 6 hours sot with nearly 240 apps and 2 SIM cards. Really happy with it.

I have the Global version and it is good in all aspects. I don't have any issues and have been using this phone for a month now!

Hi,
I'm thinking of buying GT2. I drive a lot and I would like to ask some questions to the owners of the phone:
- is android auto working? do you have any issues?
- is google assistant working without problems?
- does Realme GT2 have Google Dialer as a default dialer?
I would be grateful for this information.

Google dialer is default.

This phone sucks in mic audio quality and in bad compatibility with most Bluetooth devices out there.
I am selling it after 15 days of purchase.

Mic in calls are awsome especially when talking on speakerphone and didn't notice problem with Bluetooth connectivity and i have a lotn9f gadgets like smart watch, headphones and speakers. In videos mic is fine too.

m0mm0.com said:
Mic in calls are awsome especially when talking on speakerphone and didn't notice problem with Bluetooth connectivity and i have a lotn9f gadgets like smart watch, headphones and speakers. In videos mic is fine too.
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You are lucky.... Your device is ok then. Mine has problem. They asked me from Realme to send my device to their service so they can check. I don't care .... I will sell it and buy another brand.

General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.

No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.

OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....

No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.

Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.

I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!

In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb

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In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.

Buy chinese version for dual sim card

Or an european one - we have dual sim too.

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.
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Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference

Fornacis said:
True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday

I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.

Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable

I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68

galaxys said:
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.