Alternatives to juggernaut phone cases? - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories

I would love to get a juggernaut phone case for the Note 20 Ultra, but is seems like their focus is on 20 year old phones.... Are there any alternatives? If you have seen the juggernaut cases, Pelican does not come close.... lol.

I had never seen these cases before. Man they're ugly but it looks like you could throw the damn thing at a wall non stop and it'd be fine. Still ugly, but fine

LiquidHonesty said:
I had never seen these cases before. Man they're ugly but it looks like you could throw the damn thing at a wall non stop and it'd be fine. Still ugly, but fine
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Might be ugly, but it will protect a $1500 phone pretty well.....

Give them a couple months, they'll release one. They'll have the s20's soon, then the note. It's always been like that with them.

Thrym makes a plate carrier attachment that does the same thing as juggernaut.
I'm assuming you want it to attach to a plate carrier, otherwise the case isn't really very good. They don't even fit very well and the rubber is a pita in daily use.
Put a Velcro patch on a super thin case and get the thrym if youre putting it on a carrier though, far better setup.

votum said:
Thrym makes a plate carrier attachment that does the same thing as juggernaut.
I'm assuming you want it to attach to a plate carrier, otherwise the case isn't really very good. They don't even fit very well and the rubber is a pita in daily use.
Put a Velcro patch on a super thin case and get the thrym if youre putting it on a carrier though, far better setup.
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I am not particularly worried about a plate carrier, or other accessories like that, I am just interested in something that offers more protection than say a defender pro type case. If the juggernaut cases really don't protect the phone that well, then I am not sure what to look for.
Maybe its time to buy a 3D printer and make my own cases.

Snowleopard1900 said:
I am not particularly worried about a plate carrier, or other accessories like that, I am just interested in something that offers more protection than say a defender pro type case. If the juggernaut cases really don't protect the phone that well, then I am not sure what to look for.
Maybe its time to buy a 3D printer and make my own cases.
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They protect the phone fine, probably better than most other cases but the fit isn't great. Dust and stuff gets in easy and they are very difficult to remove the case. There is a large rubber grommet/cover along the bottom that covers up the charge port and the s-pen slot, its one piece so you have to basically remove the whole thing to plug in.
This is from the N10 version, so they may improve it for N20 - but the only reason to be using a juggernaut due to those other issues is if you need it on your plate carrier imo. If you have a Note 10+ I can send you my juggernaut so you can see the fit issues before spending 50 bucks or whatever it costs.

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They protect the phone fine, probably better than most other cases but the fit isn't great. Dust and stuff gets in easy and they are very difficult to remove the case. There is a large rubber grommet/cover along the bottom that covers up the charge port and the s-pen slot, its one piece so you have to basically remove the whole thing to plug in.
This is from the N10 version, so they may improve it for N20 - but the only reason to be using a juggernaut due to those other issues is if you need it on your plate carrier imo. If you have a Note 10+ I can send you my juggernaut so you can see the fit issues before spending 50 bucks or whatever it costs.
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Im good, thank you, I don't have a 10+, I appreciate it though.

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anyone else hate all the current cases?

All the cases look like they won't hold the device well, they all look not very well made and very bulky
found this if anyone is looking for a lower profile fit case that covers the back
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GFHP5O/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
I bought that and a tablet stand to prop it up when i need.
Yeah, I haven't seen any cases worth buying. The only one I like is the official Google case, but it lacks a kickstand.
Not impressed, if I get one of the current selection, it would be a compromise and only if it's dirt cheap for the meantime..
So far there is only 1 case that I would pull the trigger on. I am having reservations because there have been concerns over the manufactorer's costumer service and their dealays/lack of updates regarding shipping but if nothing similiar comes out soon then I will gamble on it and pull the trigger.
I hate that the official case is not available at the launch of the device, especially when you have so many people reporting that they've already scratched their screens. There isn't even an ETA.
I agree, don't like any of the cases...i spent many hours looking through the forums and amazon and don't like any of them even the official one. I ended up ordering this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GFHO6Y/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 not sure if I'll be happy with it, assuming it's temporary until something better and slimmer comes along. I was going to order a moko case but the right side of the nexus seems exposed when closed and I didn't want to wait until the 25th: http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Slim-fit...=UTF8&colid=SSJ5KLBELNZ0&coliid=ICUJNDX8PNE5B
What about these?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D2Q8RG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008F05Q2E/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Didn't like much of the cases either. Liked Biz-E-Bee's cases with the Android mascot on them but it lacked a stand, so I bought this http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008GSMRAY until something better comes along.
th3drow said:
All the cases look like they won't hold the device well, they all look not very well made and very bulky
found this if anyone is looking for a lower profile fit case that covers the back
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008GFHP5O/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
I bought that and a tablet stand to prop it up when i need.
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yes i also hate all the current cases i've seen. I'll probably end with a leather sleeve, my wife wants something just like her nook, can't even find something like that (basically snaps in and looks like a book (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/turquoise-quote-cover/23751364?ean=9780594296362).
I don't want elastic bands to hold it in, I dont want something too bulky, and don't want to have to unclip it to stand it up
I would like it to have some sort of standing property and smart cover feature, is that soo hard, slim profile?
The treegloo ones are nice, a little bulky for me, but my wife would probably like it, but i'm not paying $80 for a case (https://www.treegloo.com/)
Yup, haven't seen a single one i've liked besides the official case.
not a fan of any case yet either,
i had a yoomee neoprene case that i got for $3.50 shipped from amazon (prime), unfortunately they no longer offer prime shipping on that item without more in your cart, so that's doing the part for now...it'll do until a better one pops up with wake/sleep at a decent price
The Blurex case here is very nice. Blurex makes amazing cases in my opinion. So if this is your type of case you needn't worry about the quality.
I'm holding out for an Apple smart cover type thing, though it doesn't have the metal back or sides for the magnets to work.
I don't really feel like the back needs to be covered, I just want the screen covered and I want it to function as a stand as well.
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I'm holding out for an Apple smart cover type thing, though it doesn't have the metal back or sides for the magnets to work.
I don't really feel like the back needs to be covered, I just want the screen covered and I want it to function as a stand as well.
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Same here, if anything u can add the magnet yourself
Me too, I want a nice hard backed "snap on" type cover with a smart front cover which also acts like a stand like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Swees-Ultra...X9DG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1342463463&sr=8-3 which my housemate has for his iPda, just got a simple slip cover for it for now!
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I'm holding out for an Apple smart cover type thing, though it doesn't have the metal back or sides for the magnets to work.
I don't really feel like the back needs to be covered, I just want the screen covered and I want it to function as a stand as well.
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Same here. All those faux-leather cases are bulky and lack any style.
I really want something simple like the apple smart cover, which doubles as a stand.
I might just wait for a Dodocase.
ejkeebler said:
yes i also hate all the current cases i've seen. I'll probably end with a leather sleeve, my wife wants something just like her nook, can't even find something like that (basically snaps in and looks like a book (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/turquoise-quote-cover/23751364?ean=9780594296362).
I don't want elastic bands to hold it in, I dont want something too bulky, and don't want to have to unclip it to stand it up
I would like it to have some sort of standing property and smart cover feature, is that soo hard, slim profile?
The treegloo ones are nice, a little bulky for me, but my wife would probably like it, but i'm not paying $80 for a case (https://www.treegloo.com/)
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Yeah, I want something that looks like a book. The style of your wifes nook case is nice but with different coloring and a white elastic band, it woudl be perfect. I want the treegloo case except Id prefer if the frame wasn't made out of wood but there's nothing else like it on the market for the N7 and the base price just went down $5. I pretty much want a FieldFolio case (fieldfolio.com) but for the N7.
Same. Holding out for better case
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Here's an awesome Belkin case I posted about in another thread. Picked it up this morning from Fry's Electronics. It's gorgeous and holds my tablet perfectly, even if it's made for the Galaxy Tab 7".
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Not impressed, if I get one of the current selection, it would be a compromise and only if it's dirt cheap for the meantime..
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This. I've been looking for days for a slim-profile, rotating case. I've found nothing, not even among the Kindle Fire cases, that would fit that criteria and the Nexus 7. Even if I wanted to compromise and get an interim case, most decent cases start at $30 - far too much for such a case.
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REVIEW: Smartphone Experts leather side pouch (hip case)

Finding a leather case that's really made for the Note 2 that goes on your hip is a heck of a challenge at best. There's lots of pleather cases out there, and ones that aren't made for the Note...they're big enough to hold two of them I've heard! The case made right is big enough already, it doesn't need to be bigger than needed.
So after lots of looking I settled on the Smartphone Experts Side Pouch.
From what I could tell in the pictures, it looked like a good case and with the black friday discount, I got it for ~$21, not bad for a leather case.
It came in today, and I must say I'm pleasantly surprised. It truly is real leather, smells great and is stamped so on the back (you can see it in the pictures.) Stitching is done nicely, and with black thread instead of the white I see so often. Thank god for that, I don't need my case looking like a leisure suit!
There is extra padding on the exposed side of the case, I haven't seen this before in other cases. This can be seen in the pictures too. The belt clip is sturdy and strong, even though it looks small. The closure is magnetic and holds the flap down securely. Honestly, I don't know if magnets really mess up the phone, but it would be a simple matter to slide a sheet of mu-metal foil inside of the padded area to help with that.
The fit is quite snug, but one can expect that with all leather cases. They usually take about a week or so to form fit to your device. After that, it'll be quite easy to get the case in and out of my pocket. It does have a finger hole in the bottom center of the case to enable you to pop your device out easily. One miss, as pointed out by BrooklynAvi is that there is no headphone hole. I don't use headphones, but I can certainly see how that'd be a problem.
So, all in all, a very nice quality case. Definitely would recommend to anyone looking for a leather hip case.
Thanks for the review. Do you think this pouch can fit the Note Ii with a case? Maybe I'll be a tight fit.
Kinda hard to tell; my phone is naked. The extra padding is soft, so it does have some give in it. If the case is thin, it'll probably go. Good thing is that leather stretches with time, so it should stretch to fit eventually?
I love the Seidio holster but they aren't making it for the GNote 2 without an additional case. In addition to the cost of the extra case, I don't want to have a case on my phone. The strange thing is they make two of those type of cases which annoys me. One should have been the regular one. Well, they said they don't plan to make one so I was in the market for a traditional hip case. I found this one and you confirmed a few things I wanted to know so I'm ordering it now. I used this type for my Dash and several other devices so it shouldn't be too bad. Better than my pocket.
I thought this thread was going to be about a hip ie. fashionable case
I've been deceived ha ha
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Kawaisa said:
I've been deceived ha ha
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Yeah, well.....
One thing I can't stand is a phone in the pocket. Only way to make that worse is to have a LARGE phone in my pocket. It may not look cool, but you can't beat a case on your hip for ease of access.
One (or two) big issues
OP: Can you add this comment (in brief, of course) to the OP so others know the headphones hole is missing?
So I received the case and it was exactly what I expected in terms of quality. It really is designed for a belt but works well on my pants alone when I don't wear a belt but falls off my sweatpants at home (I don't wear my case at home much anyway and this is to be expected). Here are the issues. There are no cutouts for the headphone and charger. The charger isn't truly and issue for me as I doubt I will charge it while wearing it like I've done with other phones (while out and using an external charger) because the battery life is tremendous on the GN2. But I really use the headphones while wearing the case. I actually think that this is a vital feature that was overlooked. My solution will be to pay $5 or $10 to have a professional seamstress cut a hole in it and stitch up the hole. Yeah, it's that important to me.
So if you need a case like this then it's really your only choice. I just didn't think to ask. It's solid though and once it stops being stiff I'm going to enjoy not having to carry the device in my pocket. I'm a huge fan of side cases and this is a really good one. (Anyone remember the awesome one that came with the T-Mobile Dash?)
After a week or so of use I've decided I'm returning the case. It simply doesn't stay on my side and it's fallen off in my car a few times. It even fell off while I was walking. I'm so disappointed in a case that could have been so good.
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I never buy those belt clips like that, i had a bad experience with those. The belt part becomes every flimsy very fast. Im still looking for a nice belt holster that isn't ottercase or siedo.
I haven't had a problem with it falling off, but then I always had a belt on when I was using the case. It's a good case, but I've switched to the Best Buy Pt/seidio surface case. Gives the extra grip I need and love the holster.

HTC M8 One 2 Puregear Kickstand Case Holster Combo

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JCS054M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Best case I have found for this phone.
It's slim, light and doesn't add bulk to the phone. Plus it's not made from silicone, so it actually comes out of the holster with very little effort.
Definitely worth the money.
Mind sharing pics of it? I recently bought a Verizon kickstand case but it's a weird texture that feels uncomfortable. I think this is the same exact case but cheaper and better texture.
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Here you go..
It's a very comfortable texture, in my opinion. I like this one a lot more than the silicon one I got first.
All around it's just a much better design.
This one is a 2 layer, adds a bit more protection imo. I've been using it for some time. At first it is snug in the holster, but after using it a bit it slides in and out easily, without any worrying of it falling out on accident. It WAS only $7 but guess it's since gone up in price. I use one of their cases for my Nexus 7 also, its held up for a long time now!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGUUKRY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JCS054M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Best case I have found for this phone.
It's slim, light and doesn't add bulk to the phone. Plus it's not made from silicone, so it actually comes out of the holster with very little effort.
Definitely worth the money.
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I think that is the one that Verizon sells. The Verizon one does not protect the bottom edge of the phone very well. How about this one?
indymx said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JCS054M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Best case I have found for this phone.
It's slim, light and doesn't add bulk to the phone. Plus it's not made from silicone, so it actually comes out of the holster with very little effort.
Definitely worth the money.
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I like how a kickstand can double as a way to easy hold the phone with one hand. You can use your fingers to secure it. anyone else do this? I have the verizon version of this but don't use it because I don't like the texture. How is the texture on this one?
d1ez3 said:
I like how a kickstand can double as a way to easy hold the phone with one hand. You can use your fingers to secure it. anyone else do this? I have the verizon version of this but don't use it because I don't like the texture. How is the texture on this one?
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Yeah, the kickstand is very useful on this.. I like the texture.. not super tacky, but not completely smooth either. very comfortable.
Traceamount said:
This one is a 2 layer, adds a bit more protection imo. I've been using it for some time. At first it is snug in the holster, but after using it a bit it slides in and out easily, without any worrying of it falling out on accident. It WAS only $7 but guess it's since gone up in price. I use one of their cases for my Nexus 7 also, its held up for a long time now!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IGUUKRY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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That's what I had on the phone before. I hate that thing. If anyone wants it, pay me for the shipping and you can have it.
I find it too difficult to remove the phone from the holster. It takes both hands and most times I have to remove the holster from my belt. Not ideal.
Its also way more bulky than the new one.
indymx said:
That's what I had on the phone before. I hate that thing. If anyone wants it, pay me for the shipping and you can have it.
I find it too difficult to remove the phone from the holster. It takes both hands and most times I have to remove the holster from my belt. Not ideal.
Its also way more bulky than the new one.
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Sure it's more bulky - it actually adds some protection to the phone Not sure something so thin is going to guard it from much more than a scratch. Where as a plastic / rubber 2 piece will actually provide some form of coverage / give in a drop scenario.
It was more difficult to remove, at first, sure. But if you use it for a few days and slide it in and out, it loosens up ... yet still holds it plenty firm to be active and not be concerned of it slipping out. Just my $.02 cheers!
Traceamount said:
Sure it's more bulky - it actually adds some protection to the phone Not sure something so thin is going to guard it from much more than a scratch. Where as a plastic / rubber 2 piece will actually provide some form of coverage / give in a drop scenario.
It was more difficult to remove, at first, sure. But if you use it for a few days and slide it in and out, it loosens up ... yet still holds it plenty firm to be active and not be concerned of it slipping out. Just my $.02 cheers!
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I'm pretty careful with my phones.. so the extra protection isn't a huge concern.
I only used the other case from the day I got the phone until I got this one, so only about a month and a half and it never got easier to take out, if anything it got more difficult. I don't need a holster that I have to remove from my belt and use both hands to remove the phone from it.
I need one that I can remove the phone one handed. I like to be able to have my phone out so I can answer it before it stops ringing. Great that you like your's I didn't like it.
So, again, if anyone wants this case, I'll be happy to give it to you for the cost of shipping.
Your offer.
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I'm pretty careful with my phones.. so the extra protection isn't a huge concern.
I only used the other case from the day I got the phone until I got this one, so only about a month and a half and it never got easier to take out, if anything it got more difficult. I don't need a holster that I have to remove from my belt and use both hands to remove the phone from it.
I need one that I can remove the phone one handed. I like to be able to have my phone out so I can answer it before it stops ringing. Great that you like your's I didn't like it.
So, again, if anyone wants this case, I'll be happy to give it to you for the cost of shipping.
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Hey guy, I'll gladly take your offer.
Trident really disappointed me that they aren't making a Kraken AMS for the M8, and i've been hardpressed for a Kickstand, 2-layer protection style case with belt holster. I have a Kraken case on my HTC Ville.
Anyhow mind shooting me a PM about the I-Blason?
PS, if you've got any spare Screen Protectors, I'm also interested.
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Hey guy, I'll gladly take your offer.
Trident really disappointed me that they aren't making a Kraken AMS for the M8, and i've been hardpressed for a Kickstand, 2-layer protection style case with belt holster. I have a Kraken case on my HTC Ville.
Anyhow mind shooting me a PM about the I-Blason?
PS, if you've got any spare Screen Protectors, I'm also interested.
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It's yours.. I don't have screen protectors.

Review- 5ive Aluminum Metal Case

Ordered this case after seeing it on amz traders, figured I would try it. Here's my amazon review.
Great protective case, honestly it's probably the most protective I have ever used. It includes a thick, seems to me, plastic screen protector that's glued in, has covers over all the ports and a swinging mechanism over the 3.5 jack. I have large hands and had to struggle a bit to remove the S-Pen but not horribly, the charging cover is a bit stiff requiring several attempts to get it open in order to charge the phone. I do not have wireless charging currently so couldn't test that.
The buttons all work properly, a bit stiff but imagine they will break in a bit over time. It takes a bit to get your phone in this case, 4 screws and several minutes, it is not a quick change case. You put it in this case when you know you'll need it, hiking, constriction work, biking etc.
Lastly is the weight, it's heavy. Double the weight of the phone heavy. With all that said, for a protective case you are not going to beat it, it's that solid. It sounds like I don't like the case but I do, I wouldn't call it an everyday day case with the weight but I am certain it would protect my phone in all conditions I could find myself in. I did not remove my tempered glass screen protector prior to putting it in the case which I am sure probably make things a bit tighter but most of my cases do not have one built in so I'll keep it on.
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I noticed the Amazon listing mentions a tempered glass screen protector but you said it's plastic.
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I noticed the Amazon listing mentions a tempered glass screen protector but you said it's plastic.
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Yeah, I think it's plastic tho. It's pretty thick, doesn't sound like glass when tapping my fingernail.
Holy crap that thing is ugly. Looks like it was take right from a Transformers movie. Why buy such a sleek and nice phone just to slap it with so much uglyness?
They might rule in advertising, but I would bet Spigen sells a lot more cases than Otterbox does. I see hardly anybody with an Otterbox, but people who do have them it is very obvious and noticeable because they're enormous and look absurd, especially large phones like the Note. It looks different than a normal case that most people have, which is why it's a conversation piece and people know the name. However, even with the size, at least Otterbox makes decent looking cases of high quality. This thing is fugly with those black accents and ugly 5ive logo printed on.
Is there even access to the s-pen?
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Is there even access to the s-pen?
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Yes, the red lever thing swings open and allows access. Honestly, I sent it back to amazon. It just made the phone too heavy to actually use, intact it fell out of my hand because of the weight. It's a shame because it was definitely a change from the normal cases on the market.
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Holy crap that thing is ugly. Looks like it was take right from a Transformers movie. Why buy such a sleek and nice phone just to slap it with so much uglyness?
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LOL, I didn't mind the look so much as I wanted protection. I work in construction and welding, lost several phones to drops that normal cases just can't protect from.
Ducter said:
LOL, I didn't mind the look so much as I wanted protection. I work in construction and welding, lost several phones to drops that normal cases just can't protect from.
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Thanks, that makes absolutely sense. I absolutely understand that for some users it is imperative to have protection and that looks are 100% secondary.
I just donĀ“t understand most people that pack their phones into such things while sitting at a desk the whole day.
In your case, 100% agree.
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Yeah, I think it's plastic tho. It's pretty thick, doesn't sound like glass when tapping my fingernail.
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I ended up getting this case thru AMZ. I took a very sharp knife point to the screen protector and couldn't scratch it, so it may actually be glass.
I got this too, but haven't actually received it yet. shipped from china and its taking forever to get here!!

Belt Holster for Note5 in a Otterbox defender?

Hello all
I'm looking for a soft material (leather, fake leather, canvas what ever) belt clip holster for a Note 5 that is in a Otterbox defender as well.
Hopefully the holster would host most of the device but still be easy to slip out and also would have a magnetic closing clip.
Basically I need to the Otterbox due to my environment, and tried it yesterday for the first time and it was great, but the clip on holster for it that comes with that I can see is not going to work.
For the one smartphone I had before it was considerably smaller but I had a holster for that, and in using both, I know that is what I need.
So does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks greatly for any help.
WBFAir said:
Hello all
I'm looking for a soft material (leather, fake leather, canvas what ever) belt clip holster for a Note 5 that is in a Otterbox defender as well.
Hopefully the holster would host most of the device but still be easy to slip out and also would have a magnetic closing clip.
Basically I need to the Otterbox due to my environment, and tried it yesterday for the first time and it was great, but the clip on holster for it that comes with that I can see is not going to work.
For the one smartphone I had before it was considerably smaller but I had a holster for that, and in using both, I know that is what I need.
So does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks greatly for any help.
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I use one of these, I picked up when getting an oil filter for my car, holds my note 5 in an otterbox symmetry, as well as a nexus 6 in a slim case, at the same time. should be plenty for the note in a defender
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/d...yword=phone&pt=N1687&ppt=C0107#itemDetailTab_
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CNWNTHO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Use this with my Note 5 and spigen case. Used this when I had a note 4 and commuter case as well.
Hey guys.
Been a while since I made this post so I kinda forgot about it, but thought I would post what I did end up getting.
Got this off ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/371557478974?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Given its price as you can expect its not top shelf quality in materials and construction.
Basically for this unit I actually found one of some other brand that had a dif imprint on the front, but it was completely the same in every other way. So I guess point is, there is probably some cheap maker who sells to a few resellers.
Again the quality is not great and for both they had some bad assembly quality and in actually in completely dif areas. So guess my point is, is kinda a crap shoot as to what issues is might have.
But if its just a little off at first, funny things with these is they do tend to stretch and eventually mold to your phone. But will say the one I am using now even had the center part for the clip a bit off the 0-180 mark, so its already getting worn out an loose.
But probably the biggest thing I would say is that while the phone and with the otter box cover fit into the sleeve part nice, the front cover really did not close right at first.
Basic problem is that as it uses a magnet, the phone with the otter box was a little to tall an so the cover could not wrap around the top enough to meet its counterpart contact inline.
So basically the cover would just sit flapped open a bit.
For this though it actually was not that far away, so what I did was spend sometime with a heat gun and the phone in the case and just heated the outside and pulled on it till I stretched it enough that it made good contact.
Thankfully I was able to do this without doing and physical damage to the material either.
In the end the case is pretty good for me, was nice and cheap which if you're in a harsh environment like me is good as any is going to get destroyed, so at least I am not doing that to a more costly case.
Fit is good enough and while in need of a little work when I got it, after now is fine.
Down sides is I am sure given the quality it will only last a year or two, but hey who keeps any device longer then that. Also its a gamble to what ever defects it might have when it comes and perhaps if bad enough, may not be usable at all.
Hope that is help to others.

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