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Seems like now a days there isn't that many people making ROMs like there was back in the Windows Mobile days. Anyways, I'm looking for a AT&T 2.1 ROM w/o the AT&T bloatware. Is there anything out there? I know there are some ROMs that people have cooked up, but I'm looking for something more specific. Such as mentioned above.
If there isn't, is there any way you could assist me in making my own clean ROM, or just point me in the right direction? It seems that there isn't much documentation about how to go about making your own ROM.
Any help would be great.
mbudden said:
Seems like now a days there isn't that many people making ROMs like there was back in the Windows Mobile days. Anyways, I'm looking for a AT&T 2.1 ROM w/o the AT&T bloatware. Is there anything out there? I know there are some ROMs that people have cooked up, but I'm looking for something more specific. Such as mentioned above.
If there isn't, is there any way you could assist me in making my own clean ROM, or just point me in the right direction? It seems that there isn't much documentation about how to go about making your own ROM.
Any help would be great.
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Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
Cognition would be closest to stock, Continuum also offer an unthemed version which looks like the stock version. If you want to make your own ROM check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928955
Jemack said:
Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
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This. 2.2 is officially out for the Captivate.
Jemack said:
Just to be clear......you are looking for a 2.1 rom?
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Correct. I'd rather not build off of the Stock 2.2 ROM since from reading everyone's thoughts about it. It's crap.
low99 said:
Cognition would be closest to stock, Continuum also offer an unthemed version which looks like the stock version. If you want to make your own ROM check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928955
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Yeah, I've looked at that ROM. But it looks like he's added things to it... I might tear his down and remove the things that aren't wanted... Making ROMs seemed to be much easier back in the WM days. Made a couple stripped down carrier ones for myself.
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This. 2.2 is officially out for the Captivate.
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Correct. Like I posted above, head into the Captivate General sub-forum and see how many were complaining it wasn't actually a "upgrade".
There are tut all over the place about removing the bloat from the stock roms. As for 2.2 being worse, I cant say much as all stock rom's are pretty bad. 2.2 brought some much needed features to the captivate. Don't take peoples thoughts on it, try it yourself and make up your own mind.
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zelendel said:
There are tut all over the place about removing the bloat from the stock roms. As for 2.2 being worse, I cant say much as all stock rom's are pretty bad. 2.2 brought some much needed features to the captivate. Don't take peoples thoughts on it, try it yourself and make up your own mind.
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Doing a search didn't really land me up with much. But I did find the stock I897UCJF6 files. I thought I could find them in Odin3 but they are hiding in the .exe file. Now time to remove things and test things out. I'd try 2.2 out myself, but if everyone is saying they are crap. No need to test it out myself lol.
Wondering if I'm able to replace the stock kernel with one of the OC'd kernels... Hmm...
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Doing a search didn't really land me up with much. But I did find the stock I897UCJF6 files. I thought I could find them in Odin3 but they are hiding in the .exe file. Now time to remove things and test things out. I'd try 2.2 out myself, but if everyone is saying they are crap. No need to test it out myself lol.
Wondering if I'm able to replace the stock kernel with one of the OC'd kernels... Hmm...
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I will say this for the 2.2 update as I did run it for the better part of a day before I went back to a 2.2.1 based rom. It was better then the 2.1 that came stock on it. Most people that were complaining about it were expecting the stock rom to run like a custom rom or for it to fix all the issues they had with it. While I admit it is a BS rom, if you are going stock then it is better then the 2.1. But like I said it is up to you.
I am sure there is a kernel for it but you may have to look in older posts as most of the custom kernels for a stock rom are based of the KB1 2.2 update, not sure if any are compatible with 2.1 any longer.
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I will say this for the 2.2 update as I did run it for the better part of a day before I went back to a 2.2.1 based rom. It was better then the 2.1 that came stock on it. Most people that were complaining about it were expecting the stock rom to run like a custom rom or for it to fix all the issues they had with it. While I admit it is a BS rom, if you are going stock then it is better then the 2.1. But like I said it is up to you.
I am sure there is a kernel for it but you may have to look in older posts as most of the custom kernels for a stock rom are based of the KB1 2.2 update, not sure if any are compatible with 2.1 any longer.
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Doing a quick look around, it does seem that most of the kernels are for the 2.2 and 2.2.1 ROMs. For example SpeedMod kernel.
So I may need to find the stock 2.2 files and go from there. It doesn't seem as hard as I thought it was going to be, but that's just from doing some quick searching. Do you happen to know the Baseband Version of the latest firmware? If not, then I'll end up finding it and hopefully be able to find it's files online.
mbudden,
The official froyo release is kb1. Cognition is basically stock kb1 with a lagfix injected kernel and much of the "bloat" removed. The 2.2.1 roms such as js5, js7 are noticeably smoother and I often used them without a lagfix enabled.
If you are looking to build a base Rom yourself and don't want to start from scratch, check out doc's kitchen.
newter55 said:
mbudden,
The official froyo release is kb1. Cognition is basically stock kb1 with a lagfix injected kernel and much of the "bloat" removed. The 2.2.1 roms such as js5, js7 are noticeably smoother and I often used them without a lagfix enabled.
If you are looking to build a base Rom yourself and don't want to start from scratch, check out doc's kitchen.
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Yeah, I found the I897UCKB1 .tar file and was taking a peak inside. But interesting. I was looking to remove some of the other things that was added in the Continuum ROM, but the darn .apk's aren't all obviously named. I'll give a look at the Cognition though. Not really into the whole themes and this and that. I like stream lined ROM's. Nothing fancy.
Thanks for that thread though, maybe I should have taken a gander at the I9000 subforums too. lol. Now to figure out how to zip everything back into a .tar file.
Rather than cook up a whole ROM,
upgrade to 2.2 (it is better, ignore the disapointed whiners)
install a kernal of your choice (if you want)
use titanium backup to uninstall the bloat
now you have a stock rom, with a good kernal and no bloat.
P.S. some folks think that just because their lives rovolve arround android, that android pays attention to what they want. People always cry when upgrades arrive because no one at android paid any attention to them.
joshua43214 said:
Rather than cook up a whole ROM,
upgrade to 2.2 (it is better, ignore the disapointed whiners)
install a kernal of your choice (if you want)
use titanium backup to uninstall the bloat
now you have a stock rom, with a good kernal and no bloat.
P.S. some folks think that just because their lives rovolve arround android, that android pays attention to what they want. People always cry when upgrades arrive because no one at android paid any attention to them.
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The thing is, I just installed Continuum. I just don't like it. I do admit that it is fast. I like the stock icons and I like the stock the stock look and feel. Not to mention, some of the installed stuff I didn't care for. Also I don't need extra lock screens, or colored menus.
But anyways, got the factoryfs.rfs file apart. So basically that's the system folder like it would be in a custom ROM. Now to find out how to Deodex these .apk/.odex files.
Honestly, if you're just looking for the AT&T standard rom without the bloatware, you'd find it a lot easier to just flash back to whatever came with the phone & strip it of bloatware via titanium backup.
snapplefish said:
Honestly, if you're just looking for the AT&T standard rom without the bloatware, you'd find it a lot easier to just flash back to whatever came with the phone & strip it of bloatware via titanium backup.
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What's wrong with learning the hard way? That's the easy way out.
Doing it my way will help me understand Android.
Like I said, I used to build my own custom Windows Mobile ROMs for myself. Why not learn how to build my own custom Android ROMs?
If any ROM makers want to share some advice, do so.
Mikey has a good basic tutorial stickied here in development. There is also a guide on deodexing put up recently. Other than that it is pretty much just de/recompiling the apk and jar files to edit. Mikeymike and chancem (serendipity) have an irc and seem willing to provide advice. Sorry for no links but on the phone atm.
Hope you're enjoying the phone btw.
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Mikey has a good basic tutorial stickied here in development. There is also a guide on deodexing put up recently. Other than that it is pretty much just de/recompiling the apk and jar files to edit. Mikeymike and chancem (serendipity) have an irc and seem willing to provide advice. Sorry for no links but on the phone atm.
Hope you're enjoying the phone btw.
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His tutorial is what I'm following as we speak. A lot of the stuff he mentions isn't clearly defined though. So Google has been helpful with that. For example, he doesn't talk about how to deodex the apk/jar/odex files. But that's alright, nothing a little Googling won't fix. Will be also throwing the fixes that have been made in. A lot of reading lol.
But I am, such a great device. Battery life isn't as great as my Blackberry. But hey, it's not that much of a hassle.
Alright, I got most if it down. But when I go to load it via clockwork recovery. I get this "E:can't symlink /system/bin/cat" Any assistance?
I guess I took the "easy" way out.
I have AT&T 2.2 (WAY better than 2.1)
Root
removed unwanted bloat with TiBackup
installed SuperCurio's KB1 + Voodoo KB1 Kernel
This let me have some of the features of a custom ROM that I wanted without having to backup and restore all my apps/etc.
By no means do I have anything against that. It's just I'd rather learn things myself. So if it came time for me to build my own ROM to my liking. I have the know how.
Hi,
Which of the custom ROM do you find better than stock ROM, based on your own experience. What I'm missing by using stock ROM ? you think
aminsa said:
Hi,
Which of the custom ROM do you find better than stock ROM, based on your own experience. What I'm missing by using stock ROM ? you think
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I guess the answer is, it depends like everything else. Custom ROMs come in a great variety, AOSP, AOKP, TW, hybrid ones like Paranoid. Just flash and try
Personally I like TW. I tried Criskelo and Kingdroid, also tried paranoid(non TW). I liked Kingdroid the best. It has the newer version of TW(as opposed to the stock ROM), somewhat better battery life, more fluid IMHO, better performance overall.
ROMs are more like, to each their own. Try it, you have nothing to lose. I tried a few over a weekend, and settled on one that I dont change often because of lack of time.
I agree..
I agree, too.
Just one more suggestion as this could help you determine faster if the rom does what you need/want:
Root your phone and use a backup software (titanium or backup root, for example), saves you time
If you do this already nevermind
But to answer your question directly: most of the roms focus on smothness and stability, others implement whole new features (in paranoid rom you can choose for every app if you want the tablet or phone version) or make it easier to tweak your system (liquidsmooth would be my example for this). Also, there are several JellyBean ROMs which only miss a few features so you are always up to date and don't have to wait for Samsung's infamous touchwiz-"magic" to be applied...
And it actually teaches you a thing or two about Android and the development for it (at least it did for me )
Hope I could help
Hello,
I downloaded and successfully flashed a CM9_ICS_HWA rom for my HTC HD2.
Amazing rom, with dorimanx kernel OC limit 1,6 GHz.
Whatever,
Problem is, the camera, the " take a shot button " is invisible, im sure that camera apk is buggy,
Any one know a good camera, just a camera without bugs thats all..
Thanks
nilsping said:
Hello,
I downloaded and successfully flashed a CM9_ICS_HWA rom for my HTC HD2.
Amazing rom, with dorimanx kernel OC limit 1,6 GHz.
Whatever,
Problem is, the camera, the " take a shot button " is invisible, im sure that camera apk is buggy,
Any one know a good camera, just a camera without bugs thats all..
Thanks
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In terms of cameras, just search for one on the Play store. There should be thousands. However, can you please link to the ROM you used? AFAIK none of the current ICS ROMs have this issue, so you might have an outdated ROM. I also don't know whether Dorimanx ever released a full HWA kernel compatible with ICS, so please check that you've got the right one installed.
Heres the link
Nigeldg said:
In terms of cameras, just search for one on the Play store. There should be thousands. However, can you please link to the ROM you used? AFAIK none of the current ICS ROMs have this issue, so you might have an outdated ROM. I also don't know whether Dorimanx ever released a full HWA kernel compatible with ICS, so please check that you've got the right one installed.
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Of Course !
Heres the link, https://hotfile.com/dl/154260062/c44c7cd/cm9_htcleo_hwa_beta1.zip.html?lang=de to the rom.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM.
Screenshots
Screenshots!
Yep, that's a very old beta ROM. Upgrade to a newer ROM and you'll find that everything works smoothly.
OK
Nigeldg said:
Yep, that's a very old beta ROM. Upgrade to a newer ROM and you'll find that everything works smoothly.
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Well, i thought i found the perfect one, lol, thanks for the information,
And which ICS Rom do you suggesst? Ive tried nexusHD i didnt like it because its internal storage was very low, i think its just on my phone so,
Is nexusHD2 the best ICS for HD2 out there?
i think i will have to look out for some new roms..
I personally use NexusHD2, but I'm going to change soon to a JB ROM (hopefully). For internal storage you can just flash an A2SD script or install Link2SD. However, I would encourage you to try ROMs yourself and find the best one for you. What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another person.
JB Rom
Im flashing a JB Rom, PacMan HD2 by Xylograph, will give you a feedback...
nilsping said:
Im flashing a JB Rom, PacMan HD2 by Xylograph, will give you a feedback...
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Exactly the ROM I was considering flashing once I get the time
Smooth
Amazing rom, Aroma installer, i can choose if u want odex or another ( i forgot ) ive choosen,
It was written that the boot will take a while, and it will reboot 1 time automaticly, the boot time wasnt that long, i expected a longer time, and it did reboot 1 time,
I think that rom is leading the JB roms out for mHD2 yet....
Hi there folks!!
This phone dropped on my hands today from a friend of mine you is a excluded in this matters of customizing droid's...
So what I need to know it's the stuff that i should use to root it, like recovery and such, and the best overall rom to put in the phone. IF there is kitkat stable even better... If not Jelly Bean it is.
I'm not an expert, but i workaround pretty well, but i dropped on this forum today, and with so much stuff i don't know where need to look, and don't have the time to read it all.
So please, have some kind of goodness on me.
snake_boss said:
Hi there folks!!
This phone dropped on my hands today from a friend of mine you is a excluded in this matters of customizing droid's...
So what I need to know it's the stuff that i should use to root it, like recovery and such, and the best overall rom to put in the phone. IF there is kitkat stable even better... If not Jelly Bean it is.
I'm not an expert, but i workaround pretty well, but i dropped on this forum today, and with so much stuff i don't know where need to look, and don't have the time to read it all.
So please, have some kind of goodness on me.
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If none of the current data ia needed, then a nice clean full format to the New bootloader would be a good choice.
Use the AIO tool in the Developers section to format the phone to default new bootloader. you can follow the choices to install recovery, and download your choice of Rom.
The most stable and fully featured out of the newer roms are only the CM 10.1 roms. anything made later have camera and bluetooth issues.
Pengus has his own, Look ma no hands. its an excellent rom. along with his M1 kernel. its the latest you'll get to fully stable.
If you'd like more features, Tonyp made a T-build version 5 currently. use the same kernel from pengus again M1. and give that a go if you like customizing a bit more.
there are later roms. and they are all great, but they are still in development, with many bugs still to really work out.
you can also go Stock and try out the few very well made custom stock roms i believe there are 3 different dev's that have done work on ICS and did an excellent job of it.
Or you can stay on the old boot loader, and stick with GB if you really want to stretch out the battery life, and have every feature working.
the first few pages of the dev section would have everything I've just mentioned. but you could also use the Search for anything your having trouble with.
PM me also if you need more detailed assistance.
necrowakker said:
If none of the current data ia needed, then a nice clean full format to the New bootloader would be a good choice.
Use the AIO tool in the Developers section to format the phone to default new bootloader. you can follow the choices to install recovery, and download your choice of Rom.
The most stable and fully featured out of the newer roms are only the CM 10.1 roms. anything made later have camera and bluetooth issues.
Pengus has his own, Look ma no hands. its an excellent rom. along with his M1 kernel. its the latest you'll get to fully stable.
If you'd like more features, Tonyp made a T-build version 5 currently. use the same kernel from pengus again M1. and give that a go if you like customizing a bit more.
there are later roms. and they are all great, but they are still in development, with many bugs still to really work out.
you can also go Stock and try out the few very well made custom stock roms i believe there are 3 different dev's that have done work on ICS and did an excellent job of it.
Or you can stay on the old boot loader, and stick with GB if you really want to stretch out the battery life, and have every feature working.
the first few pages of the dev section would have everything I've just mentioned. but you could also use the Search for anything your having trouble with.
PM me also if you need more detailed assistance.
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Thanks ... Without knowing I did this by myself... Trying pengus cm10.1
The problem with the phone it's that with stock rom the batterylast about 4/6 hours... And right now it's too test if custom rom's help a bit!
Thanks for the info... If I get in trouble I know who to contact!!!
+kudos
snake_boss said:
Thanks ... Without knowing I did this by myself... Trying pengus cm10.1
The problem with the phone it's that with stock rom the batterylast about 4/6 hours... And right now it's too test if custom rom's help a bit!
Thanks for the info... If I get in trouble I know who to contact!!!
+kudos
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New battery can do miracles. LG stock battery is highly recommended.
Hey there everybody,
I'm a newbie and about to flash my Note.
Though by now having a quite solid idea of the process,
I'm still stuck on this difference.
Is the kernel different to a CWM (like Philz)? Does the
kernel include the CWM (or viceversa)? CWM is the same
of modified recovery?
Is a kernel flashable afterwards , when a custom ROM
is flashed and working, but non satisfying in regards of its
performance (just an example)?
Also: what is a safe kernel compared to a kernel? A custom kernel?
Or.. safe kernel equals modified recovery? I'm really confused..
Thanks for your time
welcome
i understand your confusion, dont worry its very simple. I will explain it.
kernel and recovery are different things. kernel makes your device hardware run the software you put on it and recovery well as the name goes its recovery which lets you do stuff like installing zips, taking backups, doing wipes etc.
i hope you have understood the difference.
Now in N7000 i.e " Note I " the kernel and recovery are in the same partition thus every kernel has its own recovery bundled with it. So if you flash a kernel then the recovery that comes with it gets flashed along it.
to make it more clear take the example of galaxy s3. In GS3 you have to flash the kernel and the recovery seperately because each has a different partition. So there you can choose to have an X recovery for a Y kernel.
I am not sure if you can do so with the N7000 and as far as i remember the last time i tried it, it didnt work and the recovery remained the same even though i tried to flash a different recovery over it. I could be wrong though since i havent actually tried such in a long time.
About CWM, it is a modified recovery which gives your device the ability to flash custom roms which you cannot do so in the recovery that comes with the device. So if you want to flash custom roms then you root your device and install a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP and flash the zip from it.
Every ROM comes with its own default kernel which gets flashed along with the ROM and thus we do not have to flash kernels seperately for each ROM that we flash but yes you can flash a different kernel for a ROM if you are not satisfied with the performance but make sure its compatible with the rom and supports it by which i mean dont flash a touchwiz kernel on a AOSP ROM etc. Make sure you read the description and instructions in the kernel thread and take a backup in the recovery before flashing anything onto the ROM. Be sure you understand what you are doing or else you risk messing the device
As far as i remember all the kernels are safe for JB and KK, it was ICS that had the unsafe/brick kernel issue but that was solved a long time back so i dont think you need to worry about safe or unsafe kernels anymore unless you are flashing an ICS ROM which i highly doubt you will.
A pro tip would be to make sure you read the instructions and a bit of thread pages to understand whats going on and what you need to do with whatever you are planning to flash
Hope i this helps you and not confuses you even more
Thank you very much
A big fat thank you!!
tysonraylee said:
Hope i this helps you and not confuses you even more
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..I'm quite loving you <3
Really, it's all clear to me now!
By the way, as you've been so clear and kind to me,
could please explain me the difference between a CyanogenMod ROM
and an AOKP ROM?
I mean, CM is AOSP based and I know the meaning of the acronyms,
but what's the difference?
AndroidePazzoide said:
..I'm quite loving you <3
Really, it's all clear to me now!
By the way, as you've been so clear and kind to me,
could please explain me the difference between a CyanogenMod ROM
and an AOKP ROM?
I mean, CM is AOSP based and I know the meaning of the acronyms,
but what's the difference?
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no difference, they are modified versions of stock android with different names and each has a community where they keep introducing features and support ROMs. if you look at the features list nowadays there is not really much difference between the two, the only difference I see is CM developed it's own kernel and recovery which can also be used on aosp/aokp based ROMs obviously
hope that helps
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tysonraylee said:
no difference, they are modified versions of stock android with different names and each has a community where they keep introducing features and support ROMs. if you look at the features list nowadays there is not really much difference between the two, the only difference I see is CM developed it's own kernel and recovery which can also be used on aosp/aokp based ROMs obviously
hope that helps
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