4G and ECG question - Samsung Galaxy Watch 3

I just received my watch in the UK direct from Samsung.
The 2 main reasons i purchased the watch are for the features above.
1) How do i get to the ECG and BP app on my new watch (its on firmware 5 and above)
2) I didnt realise my network provider had to offer a plan so i could use my watch as a phone if my phone was not with me - now i find ou Three dont offer plans for this watch....have i no choice but to switch provider? If so which providers offer a plan?

Vodafone offer plans

Mines on EE (not purchased from them, from Samsung directly)

nk33 said:
I just received my watch in the UK direct from Samsung.
The 2 main reasons i purchased the watch are for the features above.
1) How do i get to the ECG and BP app on my new watch (its on firmware 5 and above)
2) I didnt realise my network provider had to offer a plan so i could use my watch as a phone if my phone was not with me - now i find ou Three dont offer plans for this watch....have i no choice but to switch provider? If so which providers offer a plan?
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Look on youtube for the instructions, but I can confirm you can easily install the ECG and BP (look for the instructions that only use your phone and not need a computer). It's just a download and install two apk's then give the watch permissions. You'll need a BP cuff to calibrate the BP function and it looks to require this every 28 days.

When you sideload ECG/BP app as shown in the YouTube videos, does it create problems when you receive official update?

i dont get it - this watch is advertised as having BP and ECG sensors - yet we have to jump through hoops to get it to work? I just dont get it why are the apps not already installed on the device?

nk33 said:
i dont get it - this watch is advertised as having BP and ECG sensors - yet we have to jump through hoops to get it to work? I just dont get it why are the apps not already installed on the device?
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According to Samsung it is because they are not allowed yet in certain countries by authorities.
Truth behind this could be that it is not accurate enough though ? Dunno...
It pisses me off when all brands, even cheapest watches get SPO2 and other ECG... Apple got this in no time.
Yet it takes over a year and 2 watch models of advertizing these features and still they arent available for Active 2 and GW3 here in France.
Was lucky to find these apk but still missing SPO2 feature ! I wonder if i could install the right Samsung health to get it to work, thru a VPN for example, but since my GW3 is LTE i dont think i'll be able to do this... i cannot remove the sim card like we do on smartphones. Also maybe it is done through a firmware update, dunno.
So we're let with a O² tracker that is never used for a premium price ?
Then next year they will release a GW4 and advertize a SOP² "that really works" !...
The watch is awesome really, but the brand is ****tiest on the planet, they are crooks.

I didn't have any issues with the update, that I'm aware of.
It seems if you have the LTE version, the update will come through your carrier (so you'll have to activate your watch to get the update). That update contains the SPo2 feature. But you're not missing anything - it's slow and extremely temperamental, so I don't think it can be integrated into a fitness app for anything useful. I don't know if it's just the LTE version with the issues, but right now the SPo2 feature is completely worthless.
You can do the hack to get the ECG and BPM features. Nice to have, but if you're healthy you won't be using them. Also on-demand only, so they're not going to monitor your health 24/7 in the background. I think for BPM that could be automated, and that would be pretty big. ECG requires you "complete the circuit" placing your index finger on one of the buttons, so it will never be able to take automated readings in the background.

kodiak799 said:
I didn't have any issues with the update, that I'm aware of.
It seems if you have the LTE version, the update will come through your carrier (so you'll have to activate your watch to get the update). That update contains the SPo2 feature. But you're not missing anything - it's slow and extremely temperamental, so I don't think it can be integrated into a fitness app for anything useful. I don't know if it's just the LTE version with the issues, but right now the SPo2 feature is completely worthless.
You can do the hack to get the ECG and BPM features. Nice to have, but if you're healthy you won't be using them. Also on-demand only, so they're not going to monitor your health 24/7 in the background. I think for BPM that could be automated, and that would be pretty big. ECG requires you "complete the circuit" placing your index finger on one of the buttons, so it will never be able to take automated readings in the background.
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But I am in the UK - isnt this one of the countries it is allowed in? Maybe i am missing something...could the app be in the health app on the phone and i have to enable it from there?

nk33 said:
But I am in the UK - isnt this one of the countries it is allowed in? Maybe i am missing something...could the app be in the health app on the phone and i have to enable it from there?
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There are 2 apps required: Samsung Health and a new one, Samsung Health Monitor. The second one also installs on the watch and is what allows BP and ECG.
As noted above the O2 sensor is close to worthless. It reads all over the place. One time my level is 85% (bad enough for serious medical treatment) and 5 minutes later I'm at 97%. When you watch it, you can see your heart rate strong, weak, then ? Then, without moving your arm, you take a BP measurement, and the heart rate is perfectly even and smooth. The systolic (high) numbers seems to be within about 5 points of my cuff, the diastolic (lower) numbers within about 3 points, and the pulse accurate within 1 or 2 bpm of the cuff. Quite good for this device, in my opinion. You need to touch the button to take a ECG and like the BP, looks very stable, although I have no experience knowing what I'm looking at.
PS: my watch is bluetooth only, so the O2 issues are not related to the LTE version

agbva said:
There are 2 apps required: Samsung Health and a new one, Samsung Health Monitor. The second one also installs on the watch and is what allows BP and ECG.
As noted above the O2 sensor is close to worthless. It reads all over the place. One time my level is 85% (bad enough for serious medical treatment) and 5 minutes later I'm at 97%. When you watch it, you can see your heart rate strong, weak, then ? Then, without moving your arm, you take a BP measurement, and the heart rate is perfectly even and smooth. The systolic (high) numbers seems to be within about 5 points of my cuff, the diastolic (lower) numbers within about 3 points, and the pulse accurate within 1 or 2 bpm of the cuff. Quite good for this device, in my opinion. You need to touch the button to take a ECG and like the BP, looks very stable, although I have no experience knowing what I'm looking at.
PS: my watch is bluetooth only, so the O2 issues are not related to the LTE version
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Could you try to take measures with the watch below your wrist instead of above ?

mafy31 said:
Could you try to take measures with the watch below your wrist instead of above ?
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That's not how it's supposed to work!
I'm hoping it's just a software fix. It's hard to imagine Samsung released this feature given how many people appear to be having issues. Seems like it would be a simpler thing to pull off than ECG or BPM, which appear to work surprisingly well.

kodiak799 said:
That's not how it's supposed to work!
I'm hoping it's just a software fix. It's hard to imagine Samsung released this feature given how many people appear to be having issues. Seems like it would be a simpler thing to pull off than ECG or BPM, which appear to work surprisingly well.
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I have read somewhere that it worked better this way for spo2... Dunno

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I have read somewhere that it worked better this way for spo2... Dunno
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I saw that, too. But that's not how anyone wants to wear their watch. Gives hope for a software fix, though.
I assume the BPM works very similar, with respect to sensors. So it seems like it should be fixable.

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No continuous heart rate?

Has anyone figured out how to get a continuous hear rate from the watch? I just got mine today and it seems that none of the apps can do it. I have tried android fit, hear rate app, and runtastic. Without continuous monitoring of the heart rate the feature is useless in my opinion.
I have same problem, without permanent checks is useless. Is giving nothing with endomondo itd. I don't want check my HR sometimes only.
I choose samsung because of this... and this problem with charger... I choose samsung first time after long time, and I think it's my next mistake.
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I have same problem, without permanent checks is useless. Is giving nothing with endomondo itd. I don't want check my HR sometimes only.
I choose samsung because of this... and this problem with charger... I choose samsung first time after long time, and I think it's my next mistake.
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What exactly happens with the charger? I had a gear 2 and the charger looked almost identical to this one and it had no issues. I don't get how they are breaking.
http://androidandme.com/2014/07/new...harger-reportedly-damaging-some-smartwatches/
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http://androidandme.com/2014/07/new...harger-reportedly-damaging-some-smartwatches/
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I don't really think there is an issue at all, except for a few people who misused the device and want to blame the manufacture.
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I don't really think there is an issue at all, except for a few people who misused the device and want to blame the manufacture.
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this.
in the videos of unboxing and early looks i watched, virtually every reviewer tried to put on and take off the cradle as it they were the hulk. if put on like a normal human being who doesn't want to break their $200 gadget, the cradle works perfectly fine.
as for continuous heart rate, with the way the sensor (optical) works i don't ever see that happening. and if somehow enabled, working very well at all. the sensor needs you to not be moving and cannot handle moisture. it was designed with more of a before and after exercise use in mind. this is the same way it works on any samsung device with a heart rate monitor.
even when it works, it's okay at best.
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this.
in the videos of unboxing and early looks i watched, virtually every reviewer tried to put on and take off the cradle as it they were the hulk. if put on like a normal human being who doesn't want to break their $200 gadget, the cradle works perfectly fine.
as for continuous heart rate, with the way the sensor (optical) works i don't ever see that happening. and if somehow enabled, working very well at all. the sensor needs you to not be moving and cannot handle moisture. it was designed with more of a before and after exercise use in mind. this is the same way it works on any samsung device with a heart rate monitor.
even when it works, it's okay at best.
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The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
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The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
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that's interesting, only having owned a gear 1, i was unaware of that. the hardware is most likely identical and is then most likely a limitation of either the fitness app or android wear.
The Gear Fit also has continuous monitoring while doing exercise.
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Runtastic when linked to the Gear 2 allows continuous heart rate monitoring. A guy in my running group has one which was part of the reason I got the Live as figured it would work the same.
I'm assuming either Samsung will update their Gear manager to link to the Live eventually or app developers will add the feature once they work it out.
At this point I just can not live without my gear live. I felt that way about the gear 2 and this thing blows it out of the water. I really really need continuous heart rate though and hope they release something soon.
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The optical heart rate sensor is a pretty standard device that has been used in hospitals for many years. It measures blood oxygen levels. You've probably worn one in the hospital on the end of your finger, they use a red beam. Also the Gear 2 has continuous heart rate, as do other fitness watches such as the Mio Alpha. I've owned both and they work perfectly. There is no reason the Gear Live can't do it just as well as the Gear 2. Its probaby the same exact piece of hardware.
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Pulse ox at the fingertip is accurate, not at the wrist. Here's a good article about why optical sensors at the wrist aren't good.
I'm currently under 10 posts, pardon spaces in the link: cnet.com/ news /how-accurate-are-wristband-heart-rate-monitors
I've had 2 wrist mounted optical sensors and they worked with perfect accuracy.
I too had the Mio Alpha, and ran with both that and my chest strap HRM for weeks, it was never off by more than 2 bpm.
So now I've gotten a full fledged smartwatch in the Gear Live hoping it would still perform the fitness functions of the Alpha, but can't find an app to help me do so. Has anyone found anything?
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I too had the Mio Alpha, and ran with both that and my chest strap HRM for weeks, it was never off by more than 2 bpm.
So now I've gotten a full fledged smartwatch in the Gear Live hoping it would still perform the fitness functions of the Alpha, but can't find an app to help me do so. Has anyone found anything?
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I have been looking for something too but haven't found anything. I have emailed the developer for this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pribble.htc.ble.hrm
I also tweeted the developer for this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=burtonator.heartman
If I hear something back I will update here.
It's totally lame because the gear 2 does it, albeit not as good as the mio. Honestly though once I saw that the moto 360 had a HRM both my gear lives went for sale. I really hate Samsung with a passion lol and won't be buying one of their products for a while. They make these great products with potential and then use the cheapest materials on planet earth to construct them and then have a 5 year old draw their OS with crayons and release it. I hope they aren't shocked their sales have dipped significantly last quarter.
I'm basically upset about the whole charging debacle and the fact that Samsung purposely crippled the gear live by not developing a simple heart rate app because they don't want the live to compete with their horrible Tizen platform. I guarantee moto will have a continuous heart rate monitor out of the box when it's released.
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It's totally lame because the gear 2 does it, albeit not as good as the mio. Honestly though once I saw that the moto 360 had a HRM both my gear lives went for sale. I really hate Samsung with a passion lol and won't be buying one of their products for a while. They make these great products with potential and then use the cheapest materials on planet earth to construct them and then have a 5 year old draw their OS with crayons and release it. I hope they aren't shocked their sales have dipped significantly last quarter.
I'm basically upset about the whole charging debacle and the fact that Samsung purposely crippled the gear live by not developing a simple heart rate app because they don't want the live to compete with their horrible Tizen platform. I guarantee moto will have a continuous heart rate monitor out of the box when it's released.
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I'm not sure the Moto360 will have anything more available than the Live does... RunTracker, RunTastic, GoogleFit, MyTracks,etc... none of them pull data from the HRM on the Live... They are the same apps that will be available to the 360 when it finally gets here.
I also had a Gear2 and while it had software to do continuous monitoring, it was a bad hardware design. I was hopeful the Live would be better since they curved the back and moved the sensor to the middle. On the Gear2, the sensor was in the corner and the back was flat which kept the corner and sensor from staying in direct contact with my wrist.
This layout is like the Mio, but unbelievably there is no software that utilizes the HRM yet.
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I'm not sure the Moto360 will have anything more available than the Live does... RunTracker, RunTastic, GoogleFit, MyTracks,etc... none of them pull data from the HRM on the Live... They are the same apps that will be available to the 360 when it finally gets here.
I also had a Gear2 and while it had software to do continuous monitoring, it was a bad hardware design. I was hopeful the Live would be better since they curved the back and moved the sensor to the middle. On the Gear2, the sensor was in the corner and the back was flat which kept the corner and sensor from staying in direct contact with my wrist.
This layout is like the Mio, but unbelievably there is no software that utilizes the HRM yet.
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I feel exactly the same way. When I saw the location of the sensor on the live I was excited and immediately offed my gear 2. Then waited weeks for my live to arrive only to find out it was literally useless. That coupled with yet another build quality issue from Samsung (charger) and I'm done. I'm confident the moto 360 will have a Motorola app capable of monitoring heart rate continuously.
Well since the moto 360 will have the same apps as the g watch and the gear live since they are keeping the manufacturers from changing android wear , it's really up to a developer to make an app that uses this function otherwise Google will have to release something.
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Well since the moto 360 will have the same apps as the g watch and the gear live since they are keeping the manufacturers from changing android wear , it's really up to a developer to make an app that uses this function otherwise Google will have to release something.
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They can still add their own apps to the watch if they wanted to. If not they could just make an app and put it in the store to be downloaded.

WiFi Hotspot

I'm interested in the Urbane 2 if it can be used as a wifi hotspot but I can't find any references about it anywhere.
I have two sim cards, one that I use as my main phone number and the other one with unlimited data for wireless connectivity when needed. I carry two devices now and it would be more convenient to me if one of them was the watch.
Thanks for any help.
Watches usually had small battery. I don't think it'll last long as hotspot.
I don't need it to last long. Only for a few minutes at a time and 8-10 hours per day.
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Anyone knows if it is actually supported or not? Someone who owns the Urbane 2?
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Anyone knows if it is actually supported or not? Someone who owns the Urbane 2?
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Nothing on the watch itself. If you can find an app for wear or that has wear support then I don't see why not. The main bug bear with this watch is the lack of cellular supporting apps, hopefully a change that will come through with AW 2.0.
alltaken123 said:
Nothing on the watch itself. If you can find an app for wear or that has wear support then I don't see why not. The main bug bear with this watch is the lack of cellular supporting apps, hopefully a change that will come through with AW 2.0.
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Ok, thanks. Hopefully AW 2.0 will address the issue.
Hi with the LG Watch Sport out, the LG Urbane 2 is dropping price, now around $170-$190 region for mint/new.
I was wondering if anyone knows, tried succeeded/failed on using the watch as a Wifi or BT hotspot, so say I had the watch, say a tablet, and a USB battery to keep the watch running longer, with the phone acting as hotspot for the tablet to get to the internet via the watch?
Does anybody have any information on the matter?
My cellular contract gives 5GB free and I too cannot
use my LG Urbane 2 as a Hot Spot.
Yiannis
I'm interested in this as well (Urbane 2 LTE here) as with Sprint, I can't talk and data at the same time - like it's friggin' 2008 or something. So in those situations when I'm in a conference call on the road and I want to pull up some message, it'd be nice to pop on the watch's hotspot, phone connects to it while in the call, and voila, data & call. Might burn through my ~35% end-of-day battery reserve, but worth it.
Unfortunately I don't think it's possible for an app to be able to provide this functionality... it might be hidden in the Android Wear OS, though (most of it coming from Android itself), but just needs a trigger. My watch's carrier (Ting) supports hotspot functionality on everything, so it'd be supported by the carrier and everything, if it could just be activated...
I want to lose the smartphone - or at least move it to my wrist. Like many others, I have a Laptop PC, a tablet, a smartphone and bluetooth headsets. O, yes, and a heart pulse monitor chest strap (It is NOT a bra!). An Eco-system of things that, need to be programmed, configured, charged, connected and synched.
I would love to replace that with a combined PC tablet and a capable Smartwatch (and the headsets, of course).
Today, there is no-one to provide me with the components I need. The latest Smartwatches seem to be only lacking a little programming (HotSpot and fitness apps that synch across platforms) and battery capacity. Nearly there!
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I want to lose the smartphone - or at least move it to my wrist. Like many others, I have a Laptop PC, a tablet, a smartphone and bluetooth headsets. O, yes, and a heart pulse monitor chest strap (It is NOT a bra!). An Eco-system of things that, need to be programmed, configured, charged, connected and synched.
I would love to replace that with a combined PC tablet and a capable Smartwatch (and the headsets, of course).
Today, there is no-one to provide me with the components I need. The latest Smartwatches seem to be only lacking a little programming (HotSpot and fitness apps that synch across platforms) and battery capacity. Nearly there!
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Once I got an LTE capable tablet, paying the extra but the cellular networks are financially penalizing tablets, for no valid reason other than greed. So that means I got phone SIMs, in fact two phone SIMS, an ATT and a T-Mobile. I currently have both in a dual-SIM phone. I also have a Truphone incoming-free and expensive data so if I do want to spend a brief time without a phone I just enable the watch SIM and get hit with say 15c of cost. That is tolerable.
The smartwatches are suffering from small battery so you cannot really make them replace the phone.
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Glucose Monitoring, will it happen and when?

I am am watching the watches per say and the Blood Oxygen level and EKG stuff is really cool, but for me to drop money on a watch I want Glucose monitoring ..... It seems like technology is slowly getting there with companies and products like Dexcom's the G6 and the FreeStyle Libre.
Also in mens watches I guess 45mm is nice, but I would like to see something more along the lines of a 51mm watch. ( When the Note was released there was allot of hate,) but it is one of the most popular phones now.... so why can't we have a "Note" or phablet sized watch....
I am sure Samung has thought about glucose monitoring as a feature in its watches, its just a matter of getting technology to make it work.
Which brings up the next question...... Privacy...... all this data collected is skimmed by google, and then skimmed by Samsung (or Apple in the case of the Apple Watches) so how do you trust these companies and their employee's with personal data.
I'm not sure this can be monitored with existing infrared sensors. I believe you need an implant under your skin that then sends the readings to your watch or other BT device.
But who knows. I'm pretty blown away they can estimate BPM without a cuff.
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I'm not sure this can be monitored with existing infrared sensors. I believe you need an implant under your skin that then sends the readings to your watch or other BT device.
But who knows. I'm pretty blown away they can estimate BPM without a cuff.
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Right, I am sure there needs to be a skin based sensor right now, it looks like a company in Europe is working on a watch for glucose monitoring that requires some sort of patch below the watch. I guess it will come sometime.
I believe it is possible with LEDs alone. About 6 or 7 years ago a friend who is now in his 80's wrote me about such a device. (He had developed age-related diabetes.) In the 60's and 70's, along with dozens of other medical equipment, they developed a device that used light to monitor blood flow and levels of certain blood factors including glucose. Whether or not Samsung has rediscovered this method or purchased something similar is anyone's guess. (And no, he didn't work for theranos... his clients were NASA and OHSU.) It sure would be a game changer if it made it into a smartwatch.
Is there any app to grab Dexcom G6 sensor readinga from the android phone app?
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Would be a nice feature...
It exists / under development in France : named K'Watch.
https://www.pkvitality.com/fr/ktrack-glucose/
Dassault and Sanofi recently have been investing in this company, promising. Watch isnt as nice as GW3 though right now
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Right, I am sure there needs to be a skin based sensor right now, it looks like a company in Europe is working on a watch for glucose monitoring that requires some sort of patch below the watch. I guess it will come sometime.
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Thanks for sharing this its very helpful for me. I found more information about best watch $5000.
The last update on PK Vitalities website was like 2-3 years ago, they have to have improved it by now. This is sad because this 1 feature alone if it works on a watch would open a whole new market and probably kill the i watch and samsung watch sales unless it gets licensed into them.

Question About to buy Samsung Galaxy Watch 5 Pro - Please help

As one who owns an iPhone, to buy and use the GW5 Pro to the fullest, I am fine with owning a cheap Android device for Samsung Health. I am not in a country where SHM is supported. Can I do the below? If so, what are the caveats/limitations?
1) Preferable: Buy an Android tablet and install the modded SHM app on it. If this can work without issues, what's a nice tablet to get?
2) Buy an Android phone. Not preferable but I will get one if no other choice. Is Samsung Galaxy recommended over other Android phones? Since the app isn't supported in my country, does it matter what Android phone I install it on?
Please let me know.
And the reason I don't want an Apple watch is because they're useless for anything other than manual heartrate monitoring. I used the Apple Series 7 for three months and it spent less time on my wrist and more on the charging puck. What I want is body measurement, calorie intake, stress measurement and passive sleep tracking for a targeted daily routine.
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As one who owns an iPhone, to buy and use the GW5 Pro to the fullest, I am fine with owning a cheap Android device for Samsung Health. I am not in a country where SHM is supported. Can I do the below? If so, what are the caveats/limitations?
1) Preferable: Buy an Android tablet and install the modded SHM app on it. If this can work without issues, what's a nice tablet to get?
2) Buy an Android phone. Not preferable but I will get one if no other choice. Is Samsung Galaxy recommended over other Android phones? Since the app isn't supported in my country, does it matter what Android phone I install it on?
Please let me know.
And the reason I don't want an Apple watch is because they're useless for anything other than manual heartrate monitoring. I used the Apple Series 7 for three months and it spent less time on my wrist and more on the charging puck. What I want is body measurement, calorie intake, stress measurement and passive sleep tracking for a targeted daily routine.
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Firstly ,
I can tell you ,an Android Tablet, wont work with a Samsung Galaxy watch 4 or any other Samsung Smartwatch ( as far as i know or my own experience )
I have a old Samsung Gear S3 ,Galaxy Fit and the Samsung Watch 4 .
I have installed Galaxy Wearable app on my Android Tablet S 6 Lite ,
It installs ,but that it .....i got a "toast message " basically
stating that the Tablet is not compatible with a /any smatchwatch ...???
Yes" somebody ""might have found a workaround ,to this....?
but i doubt it ,as most of the post ,i have seen on Web ,has been complaining that they cannot install/connect their smartwatch .
Yes ,it should be compatible with Samsung phone or other Android phones ???
Secondly
To get an idea what you can do re SH app and workaround on how to enable certain function ? , that might not be available in your Country , ( ? ) read this XDA thread ,for ideas ..... !!!
[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - WearOS - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ WearOS WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Samsung Watch4 and Watch5 (as mentioned Samsung WearOS Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country...
forum.xda-developers.com
Good luck
Thanks for your comment. It's too bad that it won't work with a tablet, I could've used a tablet.
Just on that second question then; since I'll be side-loading the app, will any phone be equally good or will getting a Samsung Galaxy phone still be better. Also, will a phone like Samsung Galaxy A03 work? That seems to be the cheapest phone right now.
It will work on any Android phone, but it works best with Samsung phone. Especially the Galaxy phones. People have had issues pairing the watch to other phones, but I have read others that have paired with little to no issues.
May I ask, would a FitBit type of watch work where you are located? It would have the functions you are looking for and work with most phones.
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May I ask, would a FitBit type of watch work where you are located? It would have the functions you are looking for and work with most phones.
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The Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis is what draws me to this watch primarily. And the fact that this has a larger battery which can last 3 days or more. I'm less interested in those other basic features like steps counted, GPS tracking, exercise activities etc and more into state of being. So yeah, a fitbit-type watch wouldn't work.
OK. Understand. In that case, if possible, you should stick with a Galaxy phone. If you use another Samsung phone you should be OK but be aware you may have to work with it to get the watch to connect. I would not recommend using other Android phones. The connect app for the Watch 5 is the Samsung Wear App and if you get a different Android device, you will have to side load the app and hope it will work.
A friend of mine was in a smiliar situation with his GW4. At first he connected it to his wife's phone, but then he got a small cheap Android phone, which worked great for him. This is what I would suggest you as well. You can carry it with you or not, the watch works perfectly in airplane mode, or if you want the notifications in standalone mode (if connected to wifi or LTE).
You can even buy a cheap budget Samsung phone if you want to have ECG and BP out of the box, but you can easily sideload ECG and BP apps (instructions here on XDA) and use them with any Android phone, so it doesn't have to be a Samsung phone at all.
I got a Watch 5 Pro just 10 days ago, and I'm super happy with it. It's lighter and smaller than I thought it would be and it even looks much better than in pictures. On a hand it looks less thick than on photos. The band is comfortable and so much easier to use than other regular bands. It charges fast and the battery life is great - 2 full days with AOD and 3 without AOD. It could go for longer if I don't fiddle with it as much as I do, lol! And not have literally everything on, even automatic workout detections and sleep tracking. Google maps navigation on a watch is great, btw! More useful than I thought it would be.
I have a non-Samsung Android phone and everything works great, of course.
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OK. Understand. In that case, if possible, you should stick with a Galaxy phone. If you use another Samsung phone you should be OK but be aware you may have to work with it to get the watch to connect. I would not recommend using other Android phones. The connect app for the Watch 5 is the Samsung Wear App and if you get a different Android device, you will have to side load the app and hope it will work.
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Everything works perfectly for every Android phone! Samsung's Wear app is really good and has worked perfectly for me for already 2 years with one Tizen and one WearOS Samsung watch. No delay with a single notification ever! I can't say the same for some other bands and watches I tried (Honor/Huawei and Xiaomi).
Sideloading the ECG and BP apps works as well on GW5 Pro. No problem there, thanks to ADB and Android being so customizable...
Maxters said:
Thanks for your comment. It's too bad that it won't work with a tablet, I could've used a tablet.
Just on that second question then; since I'll be side-loading the app, will any phone be equally good or will getting a Samsung Galaxy phone still be better. Also, will a phone like Samsung Galaxy A03 work? That seems to be the cheapest phone right now.
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If you're asking will any Android phone work with the Watch 5, yes any Android phone will work, and there's no advantage of having a Samsung model.
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OK. Understand. In that case, if possible, you should stick with a Galaxy phone. If you use another Samsung phone you should be OK but be aware you may have to work with it to get the watch to connect. I would not recommend using other Android phones. The connect app for the Watch 5 is the Samsung Wear App and if you get a different Android device, you will have to side load the app and hope it will work.
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I disagree with this. There is no reason not to use any brand Android phone with a Galaxy Watch.

Question What do y'all think about the Galaxy Watch 5?

What's your opinion?
I think it looks good!
If you have problems with it, feel free to say!
How to enable temperature options?
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How to enable temperature options?
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Watch 5 Pro-temperature sensor option missing?
So got the watch yesterday and so far it's ok,.A little unimpressed by the lack of rotating dial. But going through all the sensor options there is no menu for body temperature even though the sensor is there. Does anyone know where the sensor options are? Or is this just another incomplete...
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Watch 5 Pro-temperature sensor option missing?
So got the watch yesterday and so far it's ok,.A little unimpressed by the lack of rotating dial. But going through all the sensor options there is no menu for body temperature even though the sensor is there. Does anyone know where the sensor options are? Or is this just another incomplete...
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This thread is not available in my country..... NO COMMENT LIKE IF PEOPLE LIVE IS US ARE WORTH MORE THAN PEOPLE LEAVE IN EU.... SHAME
Beso said:
This thread is not available in my country..... NO COMMENT LIKE IF PEOPLE LIVE IS US ARE WORTH MORE THAN PEOPLE LEAVE IN EU.... SHAME
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"Theres no option for the temperature sensors yet. Samsung say it wont be long before its available but are apparently waiting for regulatory clearance."
I'm from the EU too, to be exact, i'm from Hungary. this is available for me..weird (i'm not using any VPN)
I got my Watch 5 yesterday and it seems good. According to Samsung product info, this model is mostly an incremental upgrade to the Watch4 and includes improved heart rate monitoring, slightly longer battery life, and slightly upgraded glass type.
One odd thing I noticed: When I adb to the watch the prompt says:
heartbl:/ $
I thought that is kind of strange.
Aethera said:
One odd thing I noticed: When I adb to the watch the prompt says:
heartbl:/ $
I thought that is kind of strange.
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heartbl is the codename of the watch
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heartbl is the codename of the watch
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Yep I see it in getprop:
[ro.product.model]: [SM-R910]
[ro.product.name]: [heartblue]
I was initially concerned 'heartbl' might mean 'heartbleed' which would be an odd name to use. Then again heartbleed, spectre, meltdown, etc. do have a cool ring to them. It would be interesting if a company used CPU vulnerabilities for a product naming scheme.
After wearing the Watch 5 for a couple days it definitely feels like a nicer fit on the wrist. It feels like with the updated shape of the watch bottom that it sits more snugly on the wrist and doesn't move around as much. I see how this could improve heart rate monitoring.
The Watch 5 performs and feels better than my prior watches!
Cheers
It's like wearing a DVD Player on my watch, since I can't activate must needed functions such as NFC payments because of region locks with CSC... Until I find a solution for this, this is basically walking around with a somewhat expensive watch like a Garmin but with 20% of battery time.
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I think it looks good!
If you have problems with it, feel free to say!
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I came from the Galaxy S3 Frontier and my Watch 5 is soooo much better all around. It's lighter and I like the improved voice interactions using Google Assistant (instead of the horrible Bixby). I'm glad they went away with Tizen. Google's Wear OS opens up more possibilities.
So far I like it, for some reason Samsung pay was eating up 1/4 of it's battery and I didn't even have it set up. I uninstalled it using the Galaxy watch 4 debloat instructions and my battery life got substantially better. Right now "Samsung Text to speech engine" and "Find my mobile" apps are the biggest drains, but the battery life, even with the Samsung pay totally blew my old fossil watch out of the water. This watch is better than it in every way.
I picked the watch 5 pro when I got my Pixel 7 pro. I was gonna get the pixel watch but it's too small for my taste. I love the watch 5 pro...2 days battery is sweet.... AOD on always ...
I got a brand new grey Titanium 5 Pro for £250 in the UK through a friend who got it free with a Samsung TV. He decided to stick with the Garmin watch he already had so didn't even open the Watch 5 Pro. Bargain.
And it's fantastic. I'm coming from a Huawei Watch GT2 so despite the good battery life the Samsung has, it's not a patch on th GT2 from which I got over 10 days. But that stupidly long battery life came with a cost, namely little in the way of features and zero app support. The 5 Pro is the best compromise.
Today will be day 1 with the GW5 with D-Buckle 44mm. I set it up last night and wore it on my left wrist all night and my old Fitbit Charge 4 on my right to see how close the sleep tracking is. C4 had 82 as my sleep score and the GW5 80 so I think they are close. So far I am impressed with the GW5. I still have a ton of things to learn and setup on it but I can already tell that I am going to get a lot of use out of it. The display is fantastic and so easy to see out in very bright sunshine. Will follow-up after a week or so of use.
I am from the USA east coast but I now live in South America in Colombia in the Andes Mountains.
Horrible Setup for non Samsung devices.
took me about 4h to set it up on a Xiaomi 12S Ultra.
1. Can't connect to the phone via wearables. Tried all available workarounds, nothing worked. Last try was trying older versions of Wearables app, that did it for me.
2. Couldn't activate eSIM: Your phone needs an active SIM card to activate an eSIM to the watch.
Obviously the phone has an active SIM and is Connected to the internet via LTE/5G. Didn't find any solution for that, other than reset watch, digging out my old Samung, switch SIM to that, activate eSIM, switch SIM back to 12S Ultra, and reset and reconnect the watch to the 12S Ultra again.
The option in wearables app still gives the SIM not active on phone error, but the eSIM still is active on the watch, and mobile data still works.
It's annoying AF. But other than the atrocious setup I'm happy so far.
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Horrible Setup for non Samsung devices.
took me about 4h to set it up on a Xiaomi 12S Ultra.
1. Can't connect to the phone via wearables. Tried all available workarounds, nothing worked. Last try was trying older versions of Wearables app, that did it for me.
2. Couldn't activate eSIM: Your phone needs an active SIM card to activate an eSIM to the watch.
Obviously the phone has an active SIM and is Connected to the internet via LTE/5G. Didn't find any solution for that, other than reset watch, digging out my old Samung, switch SIM to that, activate eSIM, switch SIM back to 12S Ultra, and reset and reconnect the watch to the 12S Ultra again.
The option in wearables app still gives the SIM not active on phone error, but the eSIM still is active on the watch, and mobile data still works.
It's annoying AF. But other than the atrocious setup I'm happy so far.
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Please see my LTE activation guide which may help.
Following this guide for wrist size I decided to swap my 44mm wifi model for a 40mm LTE. Really like the 40mm size. Not sure if the tradeoff in battery life will be acceptable but in terms of wearability for my ~16.5 cm wrist the 40mm seems a lot better. I can see myself sleeping with the 40mm watch on my wrist all night whereas the 44mm just seemed to big and bulky to want to use it as a sleep tracker.
A couple things were confusing about setting up the LTE service: 1) The EID is what the customer support rep for my mobile provider wanted when she asked for the SIM. Technically it's called an ESIM but for purposes of activation they consider it a SIM; 2) You have enable a special settings mode in the Galaxy Wearable app to enable "Current QR TestMode" under "Test ESIM Feature". I created a post about this.
As far as battery life, I just switched the font color of basic dashboard to pure white, against a pure black background, which makes it possible to turn down the display brightness a lot. Hopefully that will help extend the battery life.
One minor issue I have is that on the curved complications with the digital dashboard face the font sizes are too tiny for my vision. I really have to squint to read them. I wish that the curved complications had larger fonts.
One last comment: when making an LTE call the call quality was surprisingly excellent. I was able to have a conversation via the watch even while using my hands for other things. The other party said the call quality on their side was excellent.
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So far I like it, for some reason Samsung pay was eating up 1/4 of it's battery and I didn't even have it set up. I uninstalled it using the Galaxy watch 4 debloat instructions and my battery life got substantially better. Right now "Samsung Text to speech engine" and "Find my mobile" apps are the biggest drains, but the battery life, even with the Samsung pay totally blew my old fossil watch out of the water. This watch is better than it in every way.
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Good to know about Samsung Pay. I also don't use it but am afraid to debloat since even seemingly unnecessary apps could destabilize the watch if they're uninstalled. It might be safer to disable apps first and if there are no stability issues then they can be uninstalled later.

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