is this normal Google app behavior? - Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers

Please take a look at the screenshot. I'm currently rooted in latest Android 10 no crazy mods installed except for gesture navigation magisk mod. This is seriously driving me crazy. I've done clearing data and cache. Rebooting. Even clean flashing stock firmware and yet this still persist. Everyday I go to work with 100% and by the time I get home I'm down to 30% with usually less than 1hr SOT. please someone shed some light on this and I just wanted to know if this is normal behavior? But it can't be because my battery drains between 6-10% per freaking hour and barely goes to deep sleep. There's no major partial wakelocks so it's hard to tell what's causing this.

It seems in the realm of normal to me for the Google app, at least. Why do you think it's the Google app causing the 11%/hr drain? The first screenshot says it's not doing anything in the background at all.
What's your Network and CPU States sections look like in BBS? Maybe check the signal strength in the Summary section as well. What's the vanilla "Battery usage" screen say for itself?

sharpz811 said:
Please take a look at the screenshot. I'm currently rooted in latest Android 10 no crazy mods installed except for gesture navigation magisk mod. This is seriously driving me crazy. I've done clearing data and cache. Rebooting. Even clean flashing stock firmware and yet this still persist. Everyday I go to work with 100% and by the time I get home I'm down to 30% with usually less than 1hr SOT. please someone shed some light on this and I just wanted to know if this is normal behavior? But it can't be because my battery drains between 6-10% per freaking hour and barely goes to deep sleep. There's no major partial wakelocks so it's hard to tell what's causing this.
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A BBS log over 8 hours may provide more information. The XDA dev will even take a look at it in his thread. Next time you clean flash, leave it stock for a day or two to verify your baseline.

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Help me before I deploy to afghanistan

Having bad battery issues on any froyo even stock. My battery seems to die as soon as I use it.when its off I also lose like 5 percent an hour. I've calibrated the battery used uv kernels and done all I think I can. Anyone know any ways to determine if its a harder problem or something I'm doing.
Maybe you have an app that is either updating constantly (radio is on often ) or preventing the phone from sleeping. You might try looking at partial wake usage in the spare parts app. Or maybe turning on airplane mode to see if that helps the drain. You could always wipe and start fresh. Good luck.
Wiped fresh several times. Same issue.checked partial wake and its good. Now that I notice under battery history sensor usage out says android system and its been on 100 percent of the time.even after I unplug.what could that be? I read somewhere it said google maps had a sensor bug so I un installed it and same issue. Anyone else having this issue? I wonder what app its doing that
Really? Afghanistan? That must SUCKKKK how long you gonna be there for?
I saw a thread the other day, this guy had the same problem. It ended up being a defective phone/battery. He got it fixed with HTC.

Screen Brightness kills battery more than you'd think

So the poor battery life on my Note 4 might have more to do with screen brightness than I would have expected. Unfortunately, most people posting their SOT's aren't doing it in a very scientific way, so it's hard to know what we should expect from these devices.
Here are my battery test results using PCMark for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.futuremark.pcmark.android.benchmark
In one test, I put the screen brightness to 100% and the results were pretty dismal. In the second test, I ran it at 50% brightness, which is brighter than the Note 2 at full and the results were much better.
I use Auto brightness during the day, which might explain my poor battery life, but I'd love to know what others score on PCMark are (it does run for 5+ hours!). I do keep my background BLACK, as well as using black themes on everything I can - for apps that only have white backgrounds, I use AutomateIt to invert the colors automatically. I would have thought these black backgrounds would do more, but it really comes down to brightness it seems.
I'm using an Exynos N910U model and left wifi connected while doing this test - 3 google accounts are synced on my device.
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So the poor battery life on my Note 4 might have more to do with screen brightness than I would have expected. Unfortunately, most people posting their SOT's aren't doing it in a very scientific way, so it's hard to know what we should expect from these devices.
Here are my battery test results using PCMark for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.futuremark.pcmark.android.benchmark
In one test, I put the screen brightness to 100% and the results were pretty dismal. In the second test, I ran it at 50% brightness, which is brighter than the Note 2 at full and the results were much better.
I use Auto brightness during the day, which might explain my poor battery life, but I'd love to know what others score on PCMark are (it does run for 5+ hours!). I do keep my background BLACK, as well as using black themes on everything I can - for apps that only have white backgrounds, I use AutomateIt to invert the colors automatically. I would have thought these black backgrounds would do more, but it really comes down to brightness it seems.
I'm using an Exynos N910U model and left wifi connected while doing this test - 3 google accounts are synced on my device.
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thanks for tests im using my exynos version on auto brightness and generally get 6 hours SOT. i saw on alot of people s stats and people who has problems generally has google play services on their battery usage list and it definetly shouldnt be at there... its probably about location reports to google every1 should disable it from location settings it doesnt break anything.
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thanks for tests im using my exynos version on auto brightness and generally get 6 hours SOT. i saw on alot of people s stats and people who has problems generally has google play services on their battery usage list and it definetly shouldnt be at there... its probably about location reports to google every1 should disable it from location settings it doesnt break anything.
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Yes, location can be an issue, but I think that impacts standby time more than SOT. Currently I've done the following to help with location-related issues:
- used lion tamer (soon to be called amplify) to slow down NLP wakelocks.
- set my location settings to powersave mode
- setup AutomateIt to turn on GPS when I'm in Google Maps (I'm usually plugged into the car outlet, so battery isn't a concern while navigating.
- Greenify stuff like Google search, Maps and several others.
I like and use Location Reporting, so disabling it outright isn't an option. My standby usage is very good at usually less than 1% an hour and my wakelocks keep my device awake usually less than 6%, but I'm still working to lower that number.
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Yes, location can be an issue, but I think that impacts standby time more than SOT. Currently I've done the following to help with location-related issues:
- used lion tamer (soon to be called amplify) to slow down NLP wakelocks.
- set my location settings to powersave mode
- setup AutomateIt to turn on GPS when I'm in Google Maps (I'm usually plugged into the car outlet, so battery isn't a concern while navigating.
- Greenify stuff like Google search, Maps and several others.
I like and use Location Reporting, so disabling it outright isn't an option. My standby usage is very good at usually less than 1% an hour and my wakelocks keep my device awake usually less than 6%, but I'm still working to lower that number.
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last night with 10 hours sleep time. with wifi connected sync was activated for 3 mails. i just lost 2% and i didnt do anything special like you did. no greenify no root nothing i couldnt even install wakelock detector cuz its broken on kitkat without root.
. i just disabled some useless stuff like samsung store etc.. everything else is working. and on my car i generally listen music over bluetooth
Lux could help
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last night with 10 hours sleep time. with wifi connected sync was activated for 3 mails. i just lost 2% and i didnt do anything special like you did. no greenify no root nothing i couldnt even install wakelock detector cuz its broken on kitkat without root.
. i just disabled some useless stuff like samsung store etc.. everything else is working. and on my car i generally listen music over bluetooth
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Before I started tweaking, I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR! Disabling stuff without root only got me so far, then the xposed tweaks and Titanium Backup had to be used.
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Before I started tweaking, I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR! Disabling stuff without root only got me so far, then the xposed tweaks and Titanium Backup had to be used.
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like i said i dont know whats wrong for some people its probably something you installed(skype maybe) or mostly about location reporting. even last night i left my phone at 90% when i get it this morning after like 10 hours it was on 88% like i said earlier wifi was connected no power saving etc just normal idle time nothing special.
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like i said i dont know whats wrong for some people its probably something you installed(skype maybe) or mostly about location reporting. even last night i left my phone at 90% when i get it this morning after like 10 hours it was on 88% like i said earlier wifi was connected no power saving etc just normal idle time nothing special.
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I was testing without any apps installed (just whatever I used to record battery consumption) and it was crazy high. Then I started adding accounts and apps, tweaking and I got my standby time to be much lower, but SOT leaves much to be desired. I'm going to try using the manual brightness and see if there are any differences - I often find auto brightness to be too bright or too dim! No "sweet spot" found! LOL
Greeny can also help but may need root
I'd suggest changing the settings for your Battery Monitor Widget app. AFAICS it polls every 10 minutes so a wakelock occurs every ten minutes to save the data. Use something like an hour and see what happens. Also would highly recommend BetterBatteryStats, a free version is available here for members.
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I'd suggest changing the settings for your Battery Monitor Widget app. AFAICS it polls every 10 minutes so a wakelock occurs every ten minutes to save the data. Use something like an hour and see what happens. Also would highly recommend BetterBatteryStats, a free version is available here for members.
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I'll try that, although that might only improve wakelocks, not screen on time.
BBS never worked right for me. Always complaining that it couldn't retrieve the stats or falling back on something else.
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I was getting around 6%-9% drain PER HOUR!
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Wait, with the screen off? Then you have something horribly wrong with your device. Mine did a few % over a night. With nothing done to the phone to conserve battery at all. Snapdragon, though. With the update.
I loose only 2% for 7h of standby last night.
We are seeing a trend I think, I noticed that it's mainly us 910U users or exnyos users complaining about battery life. So it must be something in the 910U rom?
I've got a 910F and I get 6 hours screen on time maximum :/
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Wait, with the screen off? Then you have something horribly wrong with your device. Mine did a few % over a night. With nothing done to the phone to conserve battery at all. Snapdragon, though. With the update.
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Doesn't happen now that I've rooted and applied my standard tweaks, but I tried a factory reset to see if I could correct the high standby drain and was not successful without these tweaks.
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I have 910f and i got same issues with my batt.
i've tried clean system, root, custom rom. Battery is always draining higher than some people.
As i said in other thread: some people have an issue, some have great battery life. And nobody knows why
Maybe it's the guys who keep it stock and don't root, custom rom and "tweak" that get the good battery life.
Delete it pls.
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Maybe it's the guys who keep it stock and don't root, custom rom and "tweak" that get the good battery life.
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I'm on stock, but without tweaks I can't even go the day on standby. [emoji31]
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[Q] Is this normal?

I had a post a while back on how my battery life was pretty abysmal but since then it has gotten worse and now i barely seem to make it to 3 hours SOT and 17-18 hours of total use. Is something wrong? Some days of heavier use it doesn't even last me 12 hours. Screenshots included for evidence.
Something seems to waking your phone up a lot bud. It's usually location settings, google play services or a rouge app that does this I had this problem on the turbo when I had the location tracking in for the command center widget, but a reboot fixed it for me and it hasn't happened since. I would try clearing cache on Google play services or uninstalling updates and re downloading them. It doesn't even show up in my battery list with 17 hours on and an hour screen on time. There is a thread about it in the Q&A section I believe. Do you have Gsam app?
I have the Gsam app but can't seem to find anything other than app usage is around 50% with android system and kernel taking up a combined 30% and Phone and google services another 10%. I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling updates for play services now and I've already tried clearing cache. I might wipe my phone and restore it as soon as i can find a good way to back everything up without root
Let me know if any of the above work, if not we'll get it figured out man. A FDR may be the best solution
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I had a post a while back on how my battery life was pretty abysmal but since then it has gotten worse and now i barely seem to make it to 3 hours SOT and 17-18 hours of total use. Is something wrong? Some days of heavier use it doesn't even last me 12 hours. Screenshots included for evidence.
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Your signal is also really weak, so you should take in mind that bad signal is a real hog for your battery.
Wait for Lollipop, it should release today according to the rumours and for sure it would give you a lot more of battery.
after a complete wipe, app usage in gsam went down from 50% to around 28% which to me says it was a rogue app waking my phone. I guess the bad signal just contributes to the problem. Seems like I'll be able to get 4-4.5 SOT which i can live with. I just wish we had root and an unlocked bootloader so i could really utilize the power of this battery
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Never mind... Was talking about a different phone lol.

Very disappointed in OP3t battery life. Not sure what to do.

I'm coming from a OnePlus One. Unfortunately, I can't find reliable BLP571 replacement batteries in the U.S., so I purchased a new OP3t.
On the OPO, I have been running custom MM and N-based ROMs. When the OPO (currently running Nougat 7.1.1 on TugaPower 2.1) is sitting around doing nothing, I typically see my idle battery current drain at around 9 uA to 14 uA and Wakelocks around 10%. Of course, when I turn the screen on, these jump up.
On the OP3t, I have tried running both OOS 3.5.4 and the new TugaPower 4.0 (which is based on Nougat 7.1.1). When the OP3t is supposedly doing nothing, I saw an idle current of around 85 mA on OOS 3.5.4, and around 35 mA on TugaPower. I didn't check the Wakelocks on OOS 3.5.4, but the Wakelocks on TugaPower are around 93% awake time (!!!!).
When I wake up in the morning, the OP3t is down to around 75% battery. For reference, my OPO used to be around 98% overnight when the battery was new. Even now, my ancient OPO with a nearly useless battery is around 85% for the same overnight time period.
What can I do?
3.5.4 actually has drain issues, try 3.5.3
Even after the annoying wake-locks and the random battery drain that just happens because why not... I still manage to get 5-6 hours of SOT, I have managed to push it till around 9 hours if I keep the Bluetooth and data off; with Greenify and using the aggressive doze it has helped but I don't get any notifications until I turn my screen back on.. Which is fine with me, as I get texts and calls. It's much better than the nexus 6 and the galaxy s4 which would struggle to even get 4 hours of on screen time. There are plenty of people raising issues about battery life on the OnePlus3T even though its probably much than your last device. XDA also has plenty of threads already created talking about the same subject.
Edit - I'm on the latest nougat update 4.0.1
the 3T or OOS doesnt have any drain or bad battery issues.
the problem is user/user-app based.
sort out the app which is causing the problem.
I just made a post to a similar thread. It seems the battery issue is hit or miss. At any rate, please check my post here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70581453&postcount=9
Let me know if this helps you out. Look forward to feedback.
Greenify + ForceDoze = problem solved. I see 1% drained per hour at the very worst.
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Greenify + ForceDoze = problem solved. I see 1% drained per hour at the very worst.
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You stole my thunder.
Just kidding, but you're absolutely correct. I'm waiting to get my OP3T and then I will write a tutorial for users to help them out with the battery. Those 2 apps will be in my tut along with a few others that are helpful!
Weird, usually my phone, while idle of course, drains by 1% every 2 and a half to 3 hours. During use while im not playing games or anything im using pixel filter. Most time ive gotten is 9 hours 32 mins screen time. Im on 4.0.1 not rooted. Just uninstall apps u dont really need like amazon, youtube, facebook, tumblr and so on and use Firefox web browser. Firefox has background play for YouTube or any other audio source so you can stream music on Spotify soundcloud or whatever you want. I basically rely on Firefox for all internet things as if my phone were a PC. Saves time and battery because with 6gb ram my browser never slows down or reloads. Firefox is also really nice in the background consuming only 10mah every hour when not active or streaming audio. Cutting down ur app count will allow your device to doze longer, fetch less data and it certainly drains far less. Also if you're into this sort of thing, boot times are much quicker too.
Edit: sorry for the unedited massive paragraph here.
Another Edit: Make sure in case you want to use battery saver mode while streaming music to toggle Firefox to have unrestricted data usage in the data saver menu.
Check the link in my signature. My drain wasn't quite as bad but might help you figure it out. Good luck!
Thanks, guys! Greenify + ForceDoze seems to be helping a LOT! I'll need to let it run a few days to see the the real-world numbers.
I am having a problem adding apps to the ForceDoze Whitelist, though. Is that a known issue?
Follow the steps attached in the screen shot
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Thanks, guys! Greenify + ForceDoze seems to be helping a LOT! I'll need to let it run a few days to see the the real-world numbers.
I am having a problem adding apps to the ForceDoze Whitelist, though. Is that a known issue?
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I've found that the whitelist appears blank until you add or remove an app, then the whole list will appear.
For me at times something appears to kick in in the background causing the CPU to spike and the phone to heat up. I can't figure out what it is though. When this isn't happening the battery drain is virtually zero and the phone flatlines overnight ,when it kicks in,the battery loses about 10% an hour on idle. I think there might be faulty drivers or something in the ROM causing this?! It's not apps as it happens to me on a completely debloated ROM with no apps. This is on Lineage and OOS. I've never seen this before on the phones I've had.
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For me at times something appears to kick in in the background causing the CPU to spike and the phone to heat up. I can't figure out what it is though. When this isn't happening the battery drain is virtually zero and the phone flatlines overnight ,when it kicks in,the battery loses about 10% an hour on idle. I think there might be faulty drivers or something in the ROM causing this?! It's not apps as it happens to me on a completely debloated ROM with no apps. This is on Lineage and OOS. I've never seen this before on the phones I've had.
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OOS 4.01 - I am experiencing exactly what you describe at 12%/hr and I have done literally all of the suggestions here. I have greenify, force doze, turned off location, disabled swift, did a factory reset and installed only 1 or 2 apps- and still I can watch battery drain with:
4 hours off charger and down to 44% with:
Kernel (android OS) 42.5%
Android System 33.7%
Google Play services 2.4%
Blah...Blah... (much smaller %'s)
What the heck could be causing this kind of drain? It seems to flatline when not in use for a while...
thoughts? Love the phone., but it is not usable like this....
4.0.1....No battery saving apps..
aaronc_98 said:
OOS 4.01 - I am experiencing exactly what you describe at 12%/hr and I have done literally all of the suggestions here. I have greenify, force doze, turned off location, disabled swift, did a factory reset and installed only 1 or 2 apps- and still I can watch battery drain with:
4 hours off charger and down to 44% with:
Kernel (android OS) 42.5%
Android System 33.7%
Google Play services 2.4%
Blah...Blah... (much smaller %'s)
What the heck could be causing this kind of drain? It seems to flatline when not in use for a while...
thoughts? Love the phone., but it is not usable like this....
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Check this out https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/battery-life-heres-how-fixed-t3536456
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Greenify + ForceDoze = problem solved. I see 1% drained per hour at the very worst.
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Hello,
I usually use Greenify Paid Version + Amplify Paid Version but only in 6.X roms in 7.X Xposed isn´t released yet....
Do you recommend use Greenify + ForceDoze (I never heard about this app) even without Xposed?
Thanks in advance.
I am still struggling with battery performance on my new OP3t.
I am running TugaPower N10 (LineageOS 7.1.1) + Better Battery Stats + Battery Monitor Widget + ForceDoze + Greenify.
While my wakelocks seem to be pretty short now, my lowest average current drain is 35 mA. For reference, my old OnePlus One had a lowest average current drain of 7 mA, or about 5x more on the OP3t.
My battery meter reflects the higher drain.
I have the same apps installed, maybe even some less.
Looking for more assistance ...
I'm on 4.0.3 OOS and using Franco kernel, 2% drain during all night, 5 hours of screen on time and still 56% battery, check what is wrong with your apps, or move from Lineage to OOS, is simply better.
EDIT: I'm not using any app like ForceDoze or Greenify
I'm not dissapointed.

Massive battery drain before and after wipe

Hi. Can someone help me with my problem?
Im facing massive battery drain even after wipe, im only getting around 3/4h SOT. In BBS, 2 alarms are weird Job.delay. And job.deadline. I have wiped my phone, installed last version of rom, after that i have restored my apps. Problem still exist. Next i have installed kirasakura kernel and then frozen every of my apps, and its still there. After night im losing around 10/20% of battery. Im attaching some screens from bbs. Thanks in advance for every help.
i'll try to help as much as i can. install servicely and look at running services. if you see something weird, stop that service.
also, i see you're using bluetooth. that thing drained my battery as bluetooth would stay turned on even when it says it's off. what you can do is turn it on and off and it should stop bluetooth service from running.
in servicely you can disable apps from running in the background. maybe some app is running full throttle even tho you thought you closed it.
another thing you can check is if xmode is running. once i had system turning on xmode on even tho i closed the app that used it.
as you're rooted, check with some kernel manager what cpu governor is turned on. maybe the system is stuck in performance mode.
lastly, you can check your battery capacity. maybe it needs calibration. that could also result in battery drain as it's not charged to the max.
also, android 10 is generaly badly optimised for our phone. it has some good features, but powerwise it's not that efficient.
if nothing works out, i'd suggest returning to latest android 9 and do battery calibration.
Thanks for answer. I have installed servicely but im not see anything suspicious. Xmode is off, governor ist in performance mode. About battery calibration, i dont need extra juice from my battery, i want to lose 1% over night, not 20%.. Probably around July/august everything was fine, my battery last for almost 3 days, now something eating it alive and i dont know what is it. Can i somehow check which app generate this "job" alarms? In BBS its "Android" only..
battery calibration isn't about extra juice, it's about system showing the right percentage. you could lose a lot of battery because it doesn't get charged to its max capacity.
there could also be a problem with the lastest update. when i was seeing a lot of battery drain, i had it because system constantly used location services. check in services if there are any location processes running. also it could be because of network. maybe your phone is constantly switching between 3g and 4g.
you can also check in the kernel manager what is your current battery draw in mAh. if its always over 300mAh, then you have a problem.
look for a wakelocks running in the background and disable and enable some to get them resetted.
Probably u have solved my problem. Even after turning off location, i still have some running services with location in name. I have blocked all of them in servicely and after night i lost 1% of battery. I will check now in later days. Thanks a lot
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Probably u have solved my problem. Even after turning off location, i still have some running services with location in name. I have blocked all of them i servicely and after night i lost 1% of battery. I will check now in later days. Thanks a lot
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A reload generally solves nothing and wastes time. It's always best to find the root cause(s) and address them directly otherwise they tend to reoccur.
Viruses (never had to), boot loops (prey it works) and old loads are the only times I reload.
DarkSoul88 said:
Probably u have solved my problem. Even after turning off location, i still have some running services with location in name. I have blocked all of them in servicely and after night i lost 1% of battery. I will check now in later days. Thanks a lot
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yeah i thought it could be that. it's also worth checking if you have "find my phone" turned on. it's somewhere in the settings. search for device admin apps. if you see any apps turned on as device administrators, turn that off. those could also drain battery
Yep, i have turned off "find my phone" now. Thanks once again. Now i have nearly 8h SoT again. I hope it will be all good now
i'd still do battery calibration if i were you. 8 hours of sot is not that much. i mean, it is if you're playing games all the time
After couple of days, problem is back. No new apps, 3 days was good, 0/1% drain in night, now its again about 15/20%. I will just sell this phone becouse i dont have any more patience...6000mah and my OP3 with half of that value can ez get about 5h sot. Aktually im getting about 3/4h sot and 3h calls. When i have bought this phone i have had about 10 h SOT and 5 h of calls in 3 days of usage. Never again gonna buy phone from asus. Thanks guys for every help
i wouldn't condemn the whole brand because of one phone model.
also try going back to android 9 and check how's the battery drain without any apps installed. then start installing your apps and monitoring if the drain will increase.
i'm currently on android 10 and there is some major problem with battery regulation. raw capacity goes below zero when the percentage is below 10 percent. no wonder the whole system starts stuttering when battery level is below 3%.

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