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[Discussion] Not happy P8 won't be updated to Nougat? REPORT!

Hey people. I am P9 user BUT I am not happy that your phones won't be updated to Nougat. This means my P9 won't get Android 8... This is ridiculous! Not even 2 years of OS updates?
So Report HERE to these muth*ducker from Huawei so they realize how stupid this is!
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It's a joke with these specs phones to get only one Major Update!
Don't be silent people! You are the one who make these companies rich! And they treat you like this? After all you paid with hard earned money!

I'm not sure if they are going to care about, there are some compability issues with Android 7 and the Hardware of the Huawei P8, guess its too much afford for them.
But we wont even get EMUI 5, thid is kinda sad.
I just hope the CM13 Port will be finished soon.
But its worth a try..

Correct me if I'm wrong. I understand that it's because the chip of P8 (Mali-T628) does not support some features of Android N (like vulkan API). So it's not because they don't want to...

what is more interesting is that my old phones like Samsung Galaxy s4 mini and Galaxy ACE 2, which are pretty old phones, handle nougat via cyanogenmod, but in matter of P8 thare are compatibility issues? how is this possible?

00471 said:
what is more interesting is that my old phones like Samsung Galaxy s4 mini and Galaxy ACE 2, which are pretty old phones, handle nougat via cyanogenmod, but in matter of P8 thare are compatibility issues? how is this possible?
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Lots of people have Samsung phones so there is a "market" for keeping these going.
The source code is available.
They tend to use hardware that lots of other devices use.
Huawei use proprietary hardware on a smaller number of devices.

beardedwonder said:
Lots of people have Samsung phones so there is a "market" for keeping these going.
The source code is available.
They tend to use hardware that lots of other devices use.
Huawei use proprietary hardware on a smaller number of devices.
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what market do you mean? galaxy ace 2 and s4mini ended with kitkat with message that their hw can not handle lollipop, so ridiculous considering that cynaogenmod 14 runs on both of them better than official stock rom 4-5 years ago, i think this is all bull*hit, if they wanted to bring us nougat, they could, how they even could release flagship knowing that they will not be able to release at least 2 updates? this is not normal

00471 said:
what market do you mean? galaxy ace 2 and s4mini ended with kitkat with message that their hw can not handle lollipop, so ridiculous considering that cynaogenmod 14 runs on both of them better than official stock rom 4-5 years ago, i think this is all bull*hit, if they wanted to bring us nougat, they could, how they even could release flagship knowing that they will not be able to release at least 2 updates? this is not normal
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By "market" I meant for developers. I can get the latest CM running on my S2. I don't think Samsung should still be supporting it.
The only reason those phones are still running up to date software is that 3rd parties have developed for them.
With most android phones you can expect one major update and that is normal and has been the case for many years. If you don't like it you should get a nexus or at least a phone with a more common chipset with community support.
Huawei should just release all the code necessary to allow for 3rd party development on their phones, especially when they stop updating them.

M.Ozturk said:
Correct me if I'm wrong. I understand that it's because the chip of P8 (Mali-T628) does not support some features of Android N (like vulkan API). So it's not because they don't want to...
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They do not want to. Now they have an excuse.

Will our Note 8 get some S9 Features?

Ok we obviously won't get any hardware-dependent features, but we should get the new camera interface / live text translation / split-screen app shortcuts etc, right?

Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Ideally those features should come with the Oreo update of Note 8. Can't see any other logical reason for delaying the update of their current flagship as most of these tweaks require dual camera which s8 or + dont have thus they just released the oreo without that. But, they cannot release the new features on Note 8 before they show it off in S9. Thus the hold up in the update. Releasing a Oreo update for Note 8 without those features and then again releasing one more later with the update is too much work thus they must have skipped the former.

Dejan Sathanas said:
Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.

Dejan Sathanas said:
Just lol... Yeah, in 15 minutes all the developers on xda will answer you. With the exact date and time and the mod they will port. After all, the S9 is now already 6 months old. Hang on...
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There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all

sefrcoko said:
There's a polite way to say that. It's supposed to be a community after all
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I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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Dejan Sathanas said:
I know. Threads like this, when the phone is not even officially released and people already want something from it, make me angry. I want to change, but i can't. I often feel stupid for "being the xda police", and still i do it. :silly:
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You're not the "XDA police" so stop acting like you're superior to the rest of the people posting here. You're in the questions and answers sections, this post and your previous ones aren't helping and are annoying. All you do is post some stupid sarcastic comment to try and make the previous poster feel like an idiot instead of actually helping them.

Aremoji should work because there doesn't seem to be any hardware limitation

After the s9 sales well yes the note 8 will get key features as for anytime soon no forget it

Hopefully we at least see Oreo soon. I'm still salty because Samsung just cut the Samsung Pay reward points in half....

We will see (I hope) many good things when Oreo hits the note 8, I can not say that features from s9+, but hey! They belong to a different series, I bought my note 8 for what it is and the features it offered from day one, so, anything else would be a very welcome bonus, that is why I do not complain or whine about oreo still not coming, I like my device as I bought it, that is why I chose it, that`s it.

i did saw the live launch yesterday and they displayed for a few seconds that the S8/S8+/Note 8 is AR capable
so lets see if Oreo update will allow us to have S9 AR capable camera features

Honestly I doubt it unless 3rd party ports them. They're running out of ideas for new upgrades it's obvious and to port new software features to older phones isn't the best marketing move. That's just my opinion.
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S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note8 .

Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
"S9 system dump was just released. I already ported it but without Oreo most stuff doesn't work and it's extremely buggy. If anyone wants screens or anything just join my Telegram group [at]JaysRoms . Once we will get Oreo. I will port S9 to Note 8 ."
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I suppose a root will be necessary ? Thanks.

s9 features? in fact there is doubt if we would have oreo or not

infrasonic13 said:
Samsung messed up this time BIG time. We all paid very good money for the note 8 for a good phone - ok? Yes, that is true but to wait almost a full year for the Oreo update? Common SAMSUNG...
Now the S9 series will be on top of everything and in a few months the Note 9 will so our 1000 bucks Note 8 will be "old" , "sluggish" an so on... This is bul**** my friends.
When I pay this money I am expecting fast update, support and ALL the new software features. But we are to blame! We should stop buying new phones every year! If we stay with a phone at least 2 years and don't give them our money they will start to understand that a 5 months old phone IS NOT OLD!
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your first mistake was expecting fast update from Sammy. they are known for their obscene late updates and if im not wrong, the current price of the Note 8 is already pretty low before S9 even hit.
i was even thinking of rooting but thx to Substratum especially the font addons. again, i maybe wrong, cause i do shot video at 60fps, rooting may very well kill that feature. yeah, there is rooted stock rom but i root for flashing purer rom if theres such word and therein lies the problem, no more 60fps!

Anyone who expects S9 features to be present in the Note 8 rom must be smoking something illegal...
Where in the world is the economic sense to supply these features in their next phone if owners of older phones have it already?
Why would you update your hardware if you are already running most of the improvements?
We'll probably get a slightly beefed up version of Oreo that the S8 and S8+ got and won't see any of the S9 features until 6 months after the S9's and S9+'s relaese. There's no money in it for Samsung...

My view on major updates is mixed. Monthly security updates are in my view mandatory and Samsung continues to offer those down to the S6.
Major OS updates can yield mixed performance and stability results when applied to older hardware. Further, the advances from say Nougat to Oreo- range from significant (Treble (which the 8 series will not get with Android 8.0), better battery life, notifications, etc ) to cosmetic.
Samsung Experience new version tweaks seem even less important. I can live without new emojis for example.
I think the bottom line is that with Oreo and Project Treble, Samsung and others should be able to churn out faster and more reliable updates. The issue pre Oreo was more on Androids limitations and less on Samsung's intransigence. That said, the omission of Treble from the 8 series Oreo updates is troubling. Maybe this will come with 8.1.

prodigyX said:
Lol dude, chill.. nobody is expecting definitive answers. I meant do you think Samsung might include these features in future updates. I was hoping for a discussion on what is theoretically possible, now that a lot of S9 features have been leaked.
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No Samsung won't be releasing any of the s9 features for note 8 as it would cripple the s9 sales and the note 9.
They only did that with the note 5 when note 7 was recalled as a apology of some sort.
The XDA devs on the other hand are know to to port stuff somewhere down the line but sadly we don't ha e that many devs for note 8 yet as we did for previous notes such as note 3 and 4.
Hopefully more devs will buy note 8 when note 9 is released when price falls.

Android Q

Just watched this video showing the new features of android Q. Samsung isn't on the list for the beta testing. I'm really not feeling the gestures it's just not quick enough going back.
For me the most impressive feature is the captions.
Basically it adds subtitles to your videos.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/1...vailable-pixel-oneplus-lg-sony-phones-io-2019

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Just watched this video showing the new features of android Q. Samsung isn't on the list for the beta testing. I'm really not feeling the gestures it's just not quick enough going back.
For me the most impressive feature is the captions.
Basically it adds subtitles to your videos.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/1...vailable-pixel-oneplus-lg-sony-phones-io-2019
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Used it on my pixel, boring update in my opinion. The reason Samsung isn't included is because all of those companies use versions extremely close to stock

clax6 said:
Just watched this video showing the new features of android Q. Samsung isn't on the list for the beta testing. I'm really not feeling the gestures it's just not quick enough going back.
For me the most impressive feature is the captions.
Basically it adds subtitles to your videos.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/1...vailable-pixel-oneplus-lg-sony-phones-io-2019
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In order for Samsung to be included they'd have to make a major overhaul to their one UI that they've just finished building (and is still not finished imo) and they won't just do that for beta testing.

The main reason for my post was about the new features. I just wondered what peoples thought were on them.

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The main reason for my post was about the new features. I just wondered what peoples thought were on them.
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It is a very sweet update. I think the finished android Q will kill it. I hope Samsung pushes it to the note 9.

crixley said:
Used it on my pixel, boring update in my opinion. The reason Samsung isn't included is because all of those companies use versions extremely close to stock
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Not true at all. Huawei and Xiaomi UI is modified to a large extent.

The reasons you won't see a preview release of Q on Samsungs are the locked bootloader and Samsung's insistence on their own customized UI. If past trends are correct, the Note 9 will get Android Q early next year. Each Samsung phone gets 2 major Android version upgrades so Q will likely be the final one. Also note that Samsung may choose to release it's own version of some new apps/features instead of using Google's implementation.

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Not true at all. Huawei and Xiaomi UI is modified to a large extent.
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Not to the degree Samsung's ui is. Regardless it's the most boring Android release ever, we aren't missing anything

crixley said:
Used it on my pixel, boring update in my opinion. The reason Samsung isn't included is because all of those companies use versions extremely close to stock
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crixley said:
Not to the degree Samsung's ui is. Regardless it's the most boring Android release ever, we aren't missing anything
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This clearly shows you have never used MIUI or EMUI before. I have used both as daily drivers and they are modified to a very large degree. And I'll confidently that say it's even more than Samsung. While Q doesn't introduce revolutionary features, there are several small improvements, especially in the privacy front that I guess many users are interested in and using the notion that it's a boring release isn't a very good justification for Samsung delaying it's upgrade plans.

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This clearly shows you have never used MIUI or EMUI before. I have used both as daily drivers and they are modified to a very large degree. And I'll confidently that say it's even more than Samsung. While Q doesn't introduce revolutionary features, there are several small improvements, especially in the privacy front that I guess many users are interested in and using the notion that it's a boring release isn't a very good justification for Samsung delaying it's upgrade plans.
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I've used both actually, however not to a large degree. In my use though I didn't find they were modded to the level that Samsung has modified Android.
Anyway enough being snotty, I am simply saying personally I'm not overly concerned about getting it asap

Are You ready for One UI 2.1 on Note 9?

"We don’t have a timeframe as to when Samsung will start rolling out the One UI 2.1 update for these devices, but it’s safe to assume that the Galaxy Note 10 and S10 series will have priority over their predecessors. There are two reasons for this: one is the obvious fact that the Galaxy S10/Note 10 are newer, and the other is that the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 have only recently made the jump to Android 10 and One UI 2.0.
One UI 2.1 brings relatively few changes
Certain One UI 2.1 features that work hand-in-hand with the newer hardware, such as the option to switch to 120Hz mode, won’t be available on older Galaxy devices even after the update. Obviously, there are technical limitations that prevent some features to be ported over to older models. But other UI changes like the additional Screen Zoom options and/or Samsung Quick Share should be made available on older phones via the One UI 2.1 update.
We’ll keep you up to speed as soon as we learn more about Samsung’s rollout plans for One UI 2.1 on the Galaxy S9, S10, Note 9, and Note 10 series. We should be getting new info on the matter over the course of the next couple of months."
I found this on Sam.
The new software is available for the Samsung S10 with the official OTA from Swizerland.
Anyone knows more like a developer way to have in on note 9 before official release?

Why you need earlier i mean this way you void Knox and other stuff it will like a custom rom and also it will come soon so i dont need to rush anyway. This way i will have it original from Samsung

I hope it zaps the bugs that presented with the initial Android 10 update.

I wish they'd make their video player remember the last used screen mode. Sucks having to press Stretch after starting each video.

I read that they will not update note 9 to One UI 2.1. is possible to update the note 9 in a unofficial way?

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I read that they will not update note 9 to One UI 2.1. is possible to update the note 9 in a unofficial way?
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Yes we can get one ui 2.1 by porting rom note 10 lite it have same architecture of cpu only have problems to port maybe camera

bryx9 said:
I read that they will not update note 9 to One UI 2.1. is possible to update the note 9 in a unofficial way?
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They will update S9 S9+ Note9 this will be their last update...

OmniKnightI7 said:
They will update S9 S9+ Note9 this will be their last update...
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no more updates see this https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-9-galaxy-s9-one-ui-2-1-update-might-not-come/

This is ridiculous. We have a powerfull and expensive phone, from the most expensive line of Samsung. After only about 1.5 year from its release, Samsung will not update our device anymore?

Last "major" update. We'll still get security updates for awhile yet.

Updated Note9 to One UI 2.1 yesterday.
Does anyone know the apk file name for Samsung Music Share?
I searched via the web and looked through the packages via adb, but cannot figure out which one is Music Share.
Thank you!

Question Any opinions or advice on Android 12, One UI 4.0?

As we're seeing numerous bugs have plagued Android 12. The latest update is Samsung's 4th Final Release. What's your experience been and is it confirmed the update locks the bootloader on previously unlocked devices? I'm holding off on updating until some positive feedback is the norm.

Update to A12 with G998B/DS (Exynos) did not result in locking BL. But as BL is upgraded from 3 to 4, downgrade will not be possible. This is not a new phenomenon, this was always the case with BL-upgrades.
In existing thread there is already a lot of feedback/experience on A12 on the FW for exynos S21U. I see no need to also open same discussions in this new thread, unless it is specified to SD-versions.

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Update to A12 with G998B/DS (Exynos) did not result in locking BL. But as BL is upgraded from 3 to 4, downgrade will not be possible. This is not a new phenomenon, this was always the case with BL-upgrades.
In existing thread there is already a lot of feedback/experience on A12 on the FW for exynos S21U. I see no need to also open same discussions in this new thread, unless it is specified to SD-versions.
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No posts in this link discusses the A12 Update, changing CSC is the topic, maybe you're confusing it with a different thread. I'm more interested in hearing from user's with a clean, stable update, Snapdragon or Exynos.

The answer is very simple...A12 is a new OS compared A11. This means it comes with its fair share of bugs. I'm sure you'd remember it took at least 6 or 7 iterations of A11 to get the perfect rom. You should expect the same with A12. I'm expecting by March 2022, we should have a fairly stable A12 rom for the S21Ultra.

That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.

varcor said:
That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.
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Actually, the android version we got in our S21U (A11) was considerable a stable version since the OS was released last September while S21 was out in Feb..so basically we had a more refined version of the OS...A12 is fairly new and hopefully by Feb/ March, the OS will become stable as well...this is the case with any OS..be it Android or iOS

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That may be the case but I don't remember any Android 11 update with this many glitches and it's not restricted to Samsung, other brands are suffering as well even Pixel. I've always updated my device's whenever a new version is available with no issues but not this time around. Seems every other thread on XDA is reporting problems with A12.
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I personally think A12 is a potato release.
Every OS has misfires. iOS had iOS 7 and iOS 11.
Android had Lollipop (v5) - absolute lemon of an update.
A12 doesn't seem as bad, but it's a Meh update. From what I've seen, it's built around cosmetic changes mainly with some minimal privacy features peppered in to make it sound more creditworthy than it is. Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google. Maybe OneUI 4.1 will bring a more stable version. But who knows?
All I know is that there aren't enough architectural or performance benefits baked into A12 that justify going one whole number up from A11.
That's just my opinion. Others may feel differently. But I tried it and couldn't suffer it on my phone more than 2 weeks. So I "downgraded" to a faster, peppier A11 build after a gruelling fortnight of hoping, praying, charging and resetting the phone till I couldn't stand it anymore!
The S21 Ultra is best experienced on A11, as of today. Updates may change it for the better, but that's a 'maybe' and 'later' in the same sentence and I'd like to see my device at its best behavior today!

"Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google"
Google blew chunks with this puppy. The blame lies mainly with Google but Samsung is culpable as well, no way should they have released it without in depth testing to sort out compatibilities. You'd think they would have figured it out long ago.

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"Every single manufacturer is struggling with it, including Google"
Google blew chunks with this puppy. The blame lies mainly with Google but Samsung is culpable as well, no way should they have released it without in depth testing to sort out compatibilities. You'd think they would have figured it out long ago.
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I think Samsung means well, all things considered. As you say, they could've spent more time fine tuning the A12 releases. But they probably succumbed to the temptation of being one of the first to the table with the new OS. They're getting hammered in almost all markets by the Chinese brands and Apple is eating into their market share too. Release decisions may have been influenced by marketing rather than development. Dunno. Just a guess.
I have to commend their commitment to timely updates. Nobody on the Android camp is as pro-active with with OS updates on as many devices as Sammy is currently. They've come a long way from their TouchWiz days and OneUI is currently my favorite android UX after OxygenOS was neutered by Oppo.
I genuinely think they're trying their best to work with the material they have. The material however (A12) may be the bottleneck here.