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a different version of tmo note 4

Ok i found a thread about a similar version of note 3, and likely there will be those who question why i might go this route for a note 4 but honedtly its the only way i could ever come close to getting a phone this expensive. To the point , i bought my note 4 from rent a center. Way too much money but 30 bucks a week i can do even though in the end it will be astronomically expensive. well its a t mobile device running on at&t through net 10, but theres a couple interesting things. First i checked knox and it was tripped from begginning. It was definetly a new phone no doubt about that.. so hey i can root with no reprecussions and have. Im rooted with twrp now. The other interesting thing is the build of kitkat. It notes rac-conversa in the build name see image.
Now my questions are, whats thoughts on the knox , i dont need it anyway, and next im wondering if the different build and or carrier and model combination going to be problematic when flashing roms or other things.. the build lacks any carrier bloat which is nice and even lacks some of samsungs bloat.
Id like to compare build props with a typical tmo note among other comparisons. Noe i have been flashing and rooting for years but this is my first samsung device. And while im not a developer i do kno a fair bit about coding ,building roms and such im hoping i wont have to utilize that knowledge to flash roms to the note though...
Really would like some thoughts and to see if anyone else has this device or knows of it.

Definitely flash it. I would almost guarantee RAC has a tracking of some kind in that ROM should you decide not to pay. Or, some sort of remote kill anyway.

Rooting my note 5

Not sure how to post in the proper thread perhaps a mod could move this post to the peoper one?
Hi this will be my first post. I am seeking guidance to properly root my note 5. After researching this seems to be the most knowledgeable forum but cant find a kernel that works!
First let me explain my situation then I will list all phone specs that i think are necessary.
Im in Canada and was with Bell previously on contract. I had a note 3 which I rooted easily with kingo software. The phone is in great shape still thanks to my otterbox after 2 years. My work offers corporate plans through Roger's so after my Bell contract ended I switched to Rogers corporate plan with the note 5 on a 2 year term. I got the new phone because I was signing up for a new contract and wanted a cheap phone out of the deal. Now that my note 5 isnt rooting properly Im considering sending it back continuing with my corporate plan on my note 3 which works great. The note 5 is awesome so far but if rooting doesnt succeed want my note 3. Rogers gave me a 14 day no questions asked return policy grace period to decide which i have 12 days left. Lastly I purchased a returnable otterbox but a non refundable gorilla glass which has already been installed to on my phone. Just another factor to consider when making this desision as the gorilla glass will be a loss. Id love to keep my note 5 and note 3 as a backup if I get it rooted properly.
Now onto problems Ive had after rooting.. depends on the kernel. Ive had issues mostly with my calls resulting in my note 5 restarting or silence when making calls. One kernel I used froze my phone in the recovery mode screen.. guessing the kernel was invalid.. I have superSu I dont know what Im doing wrong. Im using odin and loading it into the 2nd line i think its under AP. Oh I did the developer option thing already.. oh and I installed proper drivers to my PC twice to make sure.
Lastly heres all the info to hopefully find me the right kernel specific for me.
Samsung note 5
SM-N920W8
With Rogers in Canada
Android version 5.1.1 (Lollipop)
Current kernel Noble kernel v0.1 (most stable but resetting phone during calls)
If there any other info you need to provide me with the right kernel just let me know what you info you require.
I hope to find out within the 14 days if I can keep this phone or not. Realllllly apreciate the help in advance. Bill.

Nobody has any info? Becoming very frustrating

+1 for a friendly bump
I am in the same position as you and recently upgraded to Note 5 as well from Note 3. Honestly, Note 3 with root is by far my favourite phone of all time. I have been reading up on n920w8 threads too and haven't had much luck so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
The one thing that is keeping me from rooting is the fact that others have reported that Samsung/Google Pay won't work after.
btw... have you not tripped knox on our phone yet by flashing one of the kernels?

Yeah the note 3 was great ran smooth loved the os the root ran smooth never had any issues. The note 5 just looks and feels newer but its so unstable I lost calls today dling my taxes then speaking to my lawyer.. I have no landline so Im basically out of a phone right now kind of panicking I need to have a phone but I dont know if I can return it now? Its still within the 14 day grace period can I factory reset and return and stay on the plan the my.note 3? I need to figure something out quick.. I would keep this phone if the root worked but honestly I can go back to the note 3 I can unlock from Bell to Rogers for free right since its rooted?
I can't find any sign of knox on my phone since the root thing wont find it in s finder or anywhere so Im assuming it tripped. Honestly I never used knox on my note 3 either because it was void what does it do? Oh and Google play works fine though..
Im all for keeping the note 5 IF I can get it rooted properly I cant constantly lose calls like this.. Is there anyone out there that has a working kernel or should I attempt to return it? I have like 6 days left..

I was reading that the skyhigh kernel for tmobile is supposed to work. Already have it flashed. Can anyone confirm if this is the right one for Rogers note 5 SM-920W8

Galaxy S6 AT&T 64GB Dies instantly, Deepsleep or hardware problem?

Hay guys,
Edited: on 07/07/2016: Problems First; My AT&T Galaxy S6, reboots randomly, dies instantly and some times freezes, doesn't matter what app i am on. The full story is here if interested, please read below;
I bought a used AT&T Galaxy S 6, 64 GB Black sapphire, Now running 6.0.1 (i sideloaded it) and it has a problem which you guys call it deep sleep problem (I call it, dying phone with no reason) when i bought it, it was running 5.1.1 then (probably BOJ7), and the second day i noticed that it was dead, (i remember i was taking some selfies, pictures, i locked it and after more or less 15 or 20 minutes i wanted to take some more pics, i saw it was not waking up). And to my surprise, I have checked it, when i call the number which is in that phone, the call goes and i can listen on my other phone that the bill is ringing but actually my device doesn't ring at all (while dead) (I have also seen once that the notification LED was blinking Blue, yet the phone was off, itself)
So, story short when i saw the device was unexpectedly off i tried to switch it on by the following methods;
i pressed all the button many times but it didn't respond until, i pressed and kept holding recovery boot combination i.e. volume down + volume up + Power buttons and it booted.
Later on it was good, after two days, it did it again.
Now my concern was rising about Galaxy S6's sudden deaths, (I still don't know whether i should call it a deep sleep and awake problem or it is something related to hardware) so, i thought lets find a way and upgrade it to MM. I searched the xda and found this
Updating to Android 6.0.1 G920AUCU3CPD6 Step by Step {http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/general/updating-to-android-6-0-1-g920aucu3cpd6-t3371884}
I upgraded my phone and thought it's fine now, but to my surprise, the phone went off while it was in my pocket with almost 70% battery charged. I was shocked, yet started it with the buttons combo, and yesterday when i left it charging while the battery was about 87% charged, I thought let it go to 100% but when i picked it up after 15 minutes and pushed the home button to see the status the phone was dead again with a RED LED light on while the screen was off, when i pressed the home OR power button the screen showed a big green battery with 100 % Charge (which was indicating as i powered it off and kept charging)
Now my question is that " What the hell is going on?"
If it was a rooting problem? Then, I did an odin flash of BOJ7 with all four files AP, CP, CSC and his child. which should have removed the rooting, and to confirm it whether my device is rooted or the KNOX tripped or not, i have checked the knox it is 00000 which means the KNOX is not tripped.
Please help me guys, this was my dream phone, i can't buy a new one with warranty, and i can't loose it or live it with this problem, my days suck.
please help me,

And today I've seen a new thing may be it's the real problem but I really got it today. I was surfing the net and twitter my AT&T Galaxy S6 suddenly went off and I had to force start it.
Hay guys, i need your help, am i missing you all?

Hay guys, Talvigi back,
As far as no body is interested in my post and may be no one has faced such problem before, so, i am back with some updated information;
Day before Last night, I was very much worried about my phone's behaviour, even i was thinking to show it's way out. But when i was a bit asleep yet awaken i thought way not try to factory reset the device from recovery, formate system devlock and cache partitions?
And i did it while i was half asleep and let the device update it's builtin softwares and WOLLA, it's second day my beloved AT&T specific Galaxy S6 hadn't misbehaved yet, (till now, may be it will make me lying just now)
Edit: (Third Day):
Third Day guys its third day and still my phone has not misbehaved after the above mentioned factory reset, and i hope this will continue to work like that.
Edit: Fifth day:
Sorry Sammy boy but you are a sucking OEM, after two good days my AT&T Galaxy S6 is again misbehaving with me, it again deep slept, just after seconds when i was surfing the facebook and i got lock my device for some seconds. As soon as i wanted to unlock it again i saw that the device was once again not waking up hence i had to push both volume and power buttons to start it.
And it did the same thing while it was kept on my table for a couple of hours.
It's now making me crazy to sell it again and go for a galaxy S5, it least i haven't seen this problem, i actually haven't listened this kinda problem in them from any where.
Edit; Now after a lot of days of sudden deaths and instant restarts, it has started to freeze now, I have not seen this before. I mean when I am using facebook it freezes but doesn't restart as far as I have seen it twice with freeze problem. Now I can say that it is indeed a software problem may be we can suggest it to be a kernel related problem.
So is it because I might have used a 32 GB specific ROM on a 64 GB device?
Is there a real difference between 64 GB and 32 GB ROM.
Hell with the AT&T Galaxy S6.

talvigi said:
Hay guys, Talvigi back,
As far as no body is interested in my post and may be no one has faced such problem before, so, i am back with some updated information;
Day before Last night, I was very much worried about my phone's behaviour, even i was thinking to show it's way out. But when i was a bit asleep yet awaken i thought way not try to factory reset the device from recovery, formate system devlock and cache partitions?
And i did it while i was half asleep and let the device update it's builtin softwares and WOLLA, it's second day my beloved AT&T specific Galaxy S6 hadn't misbehaved yet, (till now, may be it will make me lying just now)
Edit: (Third Day):
Third Day guys its third day and still my phone has not misbehaved after the above mentioned factory reset, and i hope this will continue to work like that.
Edit: Fifth day:
Sorry Sammy boy but you are a sucking OEM, after two good days my AT&T Galaxy S6 is again misbehaving with me, it again deep slept, just after seconds when i was surfing the facebook and i got lock my device for some seconds. As soon as i wanted to unlock it again i saw that the device was once again not waking up hence i had to push both volume and power buttons to start it.
And it did the same thing while it was kept on my table for a couple of hours.
It's now making me crazy to sell it again and go for a galaxy S5, it least i haven't seen this problem, i actually haven't listened this kinda problem in them from any where.
Hell with the AT&T Galaxy S6.
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May I ask, Why am I tagged in this?

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May I ask, Why am I tagged in this?
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Sorry man, @hyelton: but you are the great hero for me,
You have been so much helpful to me as well as to many others i have seen,
And to tell the truth, i didn't tag you to help me specifically on this problem,
but i knew you will be the only one to notice me in this crap.
And i believe you have read my problem and have at least thought once, about my situation, haven't you?
And i also know you can off course guide me, or lead me a way through.
Please don't be rude, i beg your kind honour to please suggest me a way out there, any way out! :crying::fingers-crossed::crying::fingers-crossed:
Because there are many people in this forum but you can see no one, no one even noticed my problem.

Hello, I was tagged in your threads and received the notification while I was sleeping. First of all my Galaxy S6 was bought by me on May 6 2015 at an Official AT&T Store, the same Store were, nine years ago, I open a contract account for mobile service. Before Android phones I was a Blackberry user. Never root a phone, never side loaded a Google Platform Upgrade, never bought a used phone. The only time I bought a phone outside an Official AT&T Store was when I bought a brand NEW Google Nexus 5 at Amazon and God knows that my former Nexus 5 was the best phone I ever owned. I always owned the top of the line Blackberry, the Bold series. And all my formers Android phones bought at AT&T were Flagships phones at the moment I bought them. OK now, I read all your threads and when you applied a Factory Data Reset you do, in my humble opinion, the right thing . Unfortunately the problem at your phone is beyond a Factory Data Reset. My advise is that you must go to an AT&T Official Store and ask for a new Nano Sim Card. If that's not work go to an Official Samsung Repair Store or Center. If that's not work, then my friend, take out the Nano Sim Card of your Galaxy S6 and bought a NEW Google Nexus 6p directly from Google or Amazon and push the Nano Sim Card in. You are going to have peace on earth running a Google Nexus phone at AT&T. Remember my fried, NEVER AGAIN buy an used phone and by the way don't side loaded Google Platform Upgrade. Just wait for the OTA regarding Platform Upgrade. I'm really sorry for the bad experience with your Galaxy S6.
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emilioaponte said:
Hello, I was tagged in your threads and received the notification while I was sleeping. First of all my Galaxy S6 was bought by me on May 6 2015 at an Official AT&T Store, the same Store were, nine years ago, I open a contract account for mobile service. Before Android phones I was a Blackberry user. Never root a phone, never side loaded a Google Platform Upgrade, never bought a used phone. The only time I bought a phone outside an Official AT&T Store was when I bought a brand NEW Google Nexus 5 at Amazon and God knows that my former Nexus 5 was the best phone I ever owned. I always owned the top of the line Blackberry, the Bold series. And all my formers Android phones bought at AT&T were Flagships phones at the moment I bought them. OK now, I read all your threads and when you applied a Factory Data Reset you do, in my humble opinion, the right thing . Unfortunately the problem at your phone is beyond a Factory Data Reset. My advise is that you must go to an AT&T Official Store and ask for a new Nano Sim Card. If that's not work go to an Official Samsung Repair Store or Center. If that's not work, then my friend, take out the Nano Sim Card of your Galaxy S6 and bought a NEW Google Nexus 6p directly from Google or Amazon and push the Nano Sim Card in. You are going to have peace on earth running a Google Nexus phone at AT&T. Remember my fried, NEVER AGAIN buy an used phone and by the way don't side loaded Google Platform Upgrade. Just wait for the OTA regarding Platform Upgrade. I'm really sorry for the bad experience with your Galaxy S6.
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Thank You sir for such a detailed reply, my bad luck with S6 is that I love it so much but when it comes to your life you will better lose your eyes. I think I will somehow sell it back and will not buy any second hand phone again.
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talvigi said:
Thank You sir for such a detailed reply, my bad luck with S6 is that I love it so much but when it comes to your life you will better lose your eyes. I think I will somehow sell it back and will not buy any second hand phone again.
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My friend please don't lose your eye and work hard so you can buy a brand new Samsung Flagship, Galaxy S7 or a Note 6. Don't forget, far beyond the Manufacturers Flagships, far beyond your worst nightmare is the Google Nexus Phone .
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Well thanks for the suggestion but do you know, I will have to work 8 hours a day for five month and save 50% of that earnings, if I want to buy a brand new Galaxy S7, and for you my dear, that would be not more then 15 days half earning or 8 days full. So, to buy a flagship, in my dreams! Yet I will try to manage on a Huawei X5 or oppo F1
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emilioaponte said:
My friend please don't lose your eye and work hard so you can buy a brand new Samsung Flagship, Galaxy S7 or a Note 6. Don't forget, far beyond the Manufacturers Flagships, far beyond your worst nightmare is the Google Nexus Phone .
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talvigi said:
well thanks for the sugg estion but do you know I will have to work 8 hours a day for five month and save 50% of that earnings, if I want to buy a brand new Galaxy S7, and for you my dear that would be not more then 15 days half earning or 8 days full. So, to buy a flagship, in my dreams! Yet I will try to manage on a Huawei X5 or oppo F1
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talvigi said:
Well thanks for the suggestion but do you know, I will have to work 8 hours a day for five month and save 50% of that earnings, if I want to buy a brand new Galaxy S7, and for you my dear, that would be not more then 15 days half earning or 8 days full. So, to buy a flagship, in my dreams! Yet I will try to manage on a Huawei X5 or oppo F1
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My dear friend at 16 years old I left my parents house and work hard and studied hard. Now I'm 60 years old and still work hard. That's the way life goes, don't fight it. You are a good person , work hard and enjoy your life and all the Android phones you are going to have.
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Somebody, help me, please. My system is really unsustainable and doesn't tell me when to stop working and when to restart.

Edit; Now after a lot of days of sudden deaths and instant restarts, it has started to freeze now, I have not seen this before. I mean when I am using facebook it freezes but doesn't restart as far as I have seen it twice with freeze problem. Now I can say that it is indeed a software problem may be we can suggest it to be a kernel related problem.
So is it because I might have used a 32 GB specific ROM on a 64 GB device?
Is there a real difference between 64 GB and 32 GB ROM.
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Well, guys i somehow have been able to maintain my device to keep away from all those misbehavings which it had to do all the time. But i don't want to exaggeratedly lie that they are gone now, they are here, and they also sometimes show there faces but rarely, very rarely indeed. It all could happen after a couple of factory resets and keeping the device away from auto updates mostly from googleplaystore.

Well I have ODIN back and now i'm back on 5.1.1 BOJ7. And surprisingly the reboots are still here, I think, will have to kill my wish of being on Galaxy S6 for some more months and I will have to go back to the market and buy a LG G4 or Galaxy S5 may be?
People say their experience with Marshmallow has not been good but i would mine was the worst with S 6.
I think this device has a factory fault, but as far as i have bought it in used condition and the device is an AT&T device, that too out of the US, so samsung would surely won't help me, neither i have any warranty here.
I hat you Samsung/AT&T for making such a piece of crap.

Any body in this world has the same kind of problem with the Galaxy S6 AT&T 64 GB, or I am alone?

Just got a Droid Turbo after selling my LG G4, is it worth the Root?

I havent rooted a device before but the idea of getting rid of the bloatware that came on the phone and extending battery life as well as increasing performance is appealing to me.
Is your device rooted? and do you feel its worth it?
I also dont really know where to start with rooting it, I had a friend reccommend Kingoroot, but I am not sure which root is 'best' per se.
I also believe I need to unlock my bootloader...Not sure if it is unlocked already, it is a refurbished verizon unloicked phone.
Pardon my ignorance I am just getting into this stuff.

zwalk said:
I havent rooted a device before but the idea of getting rid of the bloatware that came on the phone and extending battery life as well as increasing performance is appealing to me.
Is your device rooted? and do you feel its worth it?
I also dont really know where to start with rooting it, I had a friend reccommend Kingoroot, but I am not sure which root is 'best' per se.
I also believe I need to unlock my bootloader...Not sure if it is unlocked already, it is a refurbished verizon unloicked phone.
Pardon my ignorance I am just getting into this stuff.
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Yes. Hopefully you didn't do any updating. http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-install-t3292684

Its on 5.1 currently and trying to get me to update I cleared my cache to get rid.of the update file

Wow that's a long and slightly intimidating process.
Hopefully the performance battery life and lack of bloat is worth it

I owned two XT1225 (the international version of the Droid Turbo) and won a FREE, NEW AT&T LG G4 last summer, when it was first released. (I'm on AT&T.) Stayed in the box. The LG G4 is an excellent phone, but just doesn't hit all the cumulative features of the Quark. I even bought a Qi wireless back plate for the LG G4, to enable that feature -- but still never used the phone.
Sold it on eBay a few months ago and bought a 3rd XT1225 to keep as backup for me and my wife. So, yeah, it's worth it.

I love the phone. It's awesome, I'm just getting cold feet on the root. It's the first time I've tried it.
So the root makes a big difference?

zwalk said:
I love the phone. It's awesome, I'm just getting cold feet on the root. It's the first time I've tried it.
So the root makes a big difference?
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Unlocking the phone lets you do the following things:
Remove bloat
Use the Xposed framework to customize your phone in almost any way you can imagine
Install custom roms, including roms that are a more recent version of Android than what Motorola slowly rolls out
Use security programs like Cerberus to give your phone remote commands if it is lost/stolen
Use battery optimization programs like Amplify and Greenify
Tweak your kernel to favor power over battery life, or vice versa
Other stuff that I can't think of right now

Another reason is to install a custom recovery (TWRP) after boot loader is unlocked. TWRP allows you to make a back up of everything on your phone.

It's worth it just to keep your phone relevant. Odds are we'll see android n with the unlocked boot loader I doubt we'll see it without
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There are youtube videos showing the Sunshine unlock, root, and TWRP process. It's really easy and takes only a few minutes.
The first phone I rooted was the Samsung Intercept back before all of the "One Click Root" apps came about. I had to mate it with my computer and run a long string of ADB commands. That's when I learned about Paths and Environmental Variables. Then installing ClockworkMod Recovery... You had to pull the battery out at a precise moment to get the recovery to stick before the first boot or else the phone reverted to stock recovery. But all of that hinged on if you got the Samsung drivers to work right. If that's wasn't intimidating, then I don't know what is.

Backup Software for Note 9

I've read about SmartSwitch and Kies 3. I currently use Kies 3. I don't care how user-friendly, clever, or fast it is. Anything better than Kies 3 to be able to restore single apps and pull out previous APKs? We learned the hard way that we need to turn off Google automatic updates from the play store. They arbitrarily roll out new policies that cripple businesses and cost them many thousands of dollars.
Thanks!

https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79320380&postcount=14

TWiiTCH said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79320380&postcount=14Do not downgrade if a current bootloader is newer than old one. You can't revert bootloaders but you can up or downgrade if same version or new one that's higher.
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I have never been so frustrated with a phone purchase. I probably have 40 hours in this and it looks like it isn't over yet. First people say once it's upgraded to Pie there is no going back. Next they say it's no problem. Next they say you cannot go back to Oreo and I have a phone on order that is about to get re-listed if I cannot revert it. Now I'm rooting for Hawwaie, a new operating system, and for them to be a US carrier. These guys are criminal.

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I have never been so frustrated with a phone purchase. I probably have 40 hours in this and it looks like it isn't over yet. First people say once it's upgraded to Pie there is no going back. Next they say it's no problem. Next they say you cannot go back to Oreo and I have a phone on order that is about to get re-listed if I cannot revert it. Now I'm rooting for Hawwaie, a new operating system, and for them to be a US carrier. These guys are criminal.
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I feel your frustration. I bought this phone because I wanted a hi end hi performance phone & I thought I'd stay on Oreo until there was a root method for my Snapdragon model only to find out that after hitting no to the update request about 20 times it still forced me to upgrade. Why the heck do they ask if you want to upgrade or not if they're just going to force you to upgrade anyway. As for the bootloader thing if you are on version 1 it doesn't matter what release firmware you put on it just as long as it is bootloader version 1 or higher. Once you go to a firmware that has bootloader version 2 or higher you are unable to go back 2 a firmware that is lower then the one you're currently on. It is stupid but I don't know what to say because I am in your position, stuck with a phone I cannot root and paid big money for. If you have any questions on how to do things just PM me and we can chat I am fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Samsung devices and the note 9 as I've had mine since it was released. Do you have the exynos or snapdragon model? Mine is snapdragon so that is the one I am most familiar with. If I don't know something that you ask me I will not lie and pretend like I do know and feed you information that could lead you down a bad Road. I will give you answers if I do have the correct ones and I am sure of that.
What is it you wish to do or have done with your phone? If it is rooting/jailbreak and you have the exynos model you have an 80% chance that you can succeed in doing so. If you have the Snapdragon model like me we probably will not see a jailbreak or root anytime soon, if at all. There are ways and tricks to get around a lot of problems but they involve work and knowledge and time and usually they are a lengthy process to complete a simple task if it doesn't come out of the box already doing what you wish.
I'd love to trade mine if I could find somebody with a phone that is rootable and it's in the same quality and performs close to the way this one does. I'm going to hold off though because I have downgraded to Oreo and everything I need is functioning at the moment. My only wish 4 root is because I'd like to run Viper4android to be able to get the best sound quality out of the phone possible. For me there is not enough Bass and the volume level is too low, and when you turn the bass or treble up using the EQ provided by Samsung the music goes quieter just so the bass and treble sound louder by comparison. This phone has a very low end audio quality in my opinion. I hate the earbud headphones they come with, AKG I believe. They keep falling out of my oddly shaped ear canal and don't provide me with anything I'd consider special sounding. They rate the headphones as high end $100 value but to me I've bought better for $29.99. Some may disagree but with hiphop/rap I need, well like heavy bass & sharp snappy treble without loss of mid range vocals. I'm getting married in 3/4 of a year, maybe I'll ask for a wedding gift (doing a money tree) and get me some $400 beats over ear headphones by Dr Dre. This phone without viper4android may not push them tho so I'll get a Bluetooth model which provides its own amp power supply.
Like I said if you have questions I'll tell you what I know, what I've actually done myself, and what I'm unsure of. I feel for you so least I can do is offer. Don't give up just yet. Day 2 on Oreo 8.1.0 and still nothing about updates has come up. It's two simple adb commands that stops the forced updates and it affects nothing on the phone. No prompts or error messages & EVERYTHING else works fine. It's easy to undo also and does not void warranty.
Cheers mate, take a deep breath & we can look at each issue 1 by 1. Hopefully their easy to correct.
I'm Ryan by the way. Ttyl ?.

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I'd love to trade mine if I could find somebody with a phone that is rootable and it's in the same quality and performs close to the way this one does.
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There is, the Pixel 2XL. The Pixel 3XL came with Pie. There isn't much difference between the two. The reason I didn't is I will be living in a South America most of the time and I want Samsung Pay otherwise the Pixel 2XL almost had
me giving up the stylus.
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Like I said if you have questions I'll tell you what I know, what I've actually done myself, and what I'm unsure of. I feel for you so least I can do is offer. Don't give up just yet.
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If it doesn't come with the right boot loader I'll list it back on eBay and get one that does.
I don't buy phones often because it takes me 80 hours to get one the way I need it. Once I was able to get a phone with a stylus, and I could run line-of-business software, the Touch Pro2, it would be hard for me to give up the stylus. The Touch Pro2 was simply a Pocket PC and you could wipe it and install any operating that had drivers on it, including Android. It could emulate anything, including an iPhone. I'd still have a Windows phone if they made one but Balmer trashed it and started putting Zune on phones with Windows Phone and then it lost it's entire software base, including the Word, Excel, and Outlook that was baked in, and took Nokia down with it. That is what brought Android out of obscurity. I didn't move to Android until the Note 3 because it was the first point in time that Android had enough competent software for line-of-business apps, and the reason I didn't go IOS is because the same apps in the iPhone didn't work right, and I couldn't get where I needed to go, with call recording being one. It was also the latest I could get root. With root we can do site surveys, see what the bands are in a certain area, troubleshoot networks, etc., so we will keep the Verizon Note 3s for that purpose as they have no resale since they cannot be added to the Verizon network after the first of the year because they don't have LTE-A like the Note 4. The Note 8 and the Note 9 are the only ones with the bands needed to be able to work on a variety of networks around the world, that has a stylus, can still record calls if running Oreo, and has Samsung Pay. There is no advantage for me to buy a Samsung without a stylus. The problem with the Note 8 is battery life and it would probably come with an older battery. For those reasons the Note 9 is the only duck in my pond. I couldn't use a Note 10 if someone gave it to me.
TWiiTCH said:
Day 2 on Oreo 8.1.0 and still nothing about updates has come up. It's two simple adb commands that stops the forced updates and it affects nothing on the phone. No prompts or error messages & EVERYTHING else works fine. It's easy to undo also and does not void warranty.
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ADB access for most is about over, and Verizon is the name of a new virus that works around your OTA protections. I'm going to go with what Jammol stated on this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus this video for phone settings: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus install Package Disabler Pro+.
TWiiTCH said:
Cheers mate, take a deep breath & we can look at each issue 1 by 1. Hopefully their easy to correct. I'm Ryan by the way. Ttyl .
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I have a Note 9 on the way, setting up my plan, and ordering and downloading. The phone is my mini business laptop. It has my mail, schedule, software to support people remotely, tracks my time, takes notes for my calls, etc. I don't use it for movies, games, or music. What turns my ears red is when they make changes that cost me thousands of dollars in lost history and change things to where I lose business functionality. If I find the guy who did Pie and took away my call recording, I'm going to revoke his social media accounts, take the transmission out of his car to keep him safe and from breaking the law with any inadvertent traffic violations, and board up all of the windows on his house to protect his privacy. I know what's best for his life. BTW, I'm Jack

IT_Architect said:
:laugh:There is, the Pixel 2XL. The Pixel 3XL came with Pie. There isn't much difference between the two. The reason I didn't is I will be living in a South America most of the time and I want Samsung Pay otherwise the Pixel 2XL almost had
me giving up the stylus.
If it doesn't come with the right boot loader I'll list it back on eBay and get one that does.
I don't buy phones often because it takes me 80 hours to get one the way I need it. Once I was able to get a phone with a stylus, and I could run line-of-business software, the Touch Pro2, it would be hard for me to give up the stylus. The Touch Pro2 was simply a Pocket PC and you could wipe it and install any operating that had drivers on it, including Android. It could emulate anything, including an iPhone. I'd still have a Windows phone if they made one but Balmer trashed it and started putting Zune on phones with Windows Phone and then it lost it's entire software base, including the Word, Excel, and Outlook that was baked in, and took Nokia down with it. That is what brought Android out of obscurity. I didn't move to Android until the Note 3 because it was the first point in time that Android had enough competent software for line-of-business apps, and the reason I didn't go IOS is because the same apps in the iPhone didn't work right, and I couldn't get where I needed to go, with call recording being one. It was also the latest I could get root. With root we can do site surveys, see what the bands are in a certain area, troubleshoot networks, etc., so we will keep the Verizon Note 3s for that purpose as they have no resale since they cannot be added to the Verizon network after the first of the year because they don't have LTE-A like the Note 4. The Note 8 and the Note 9 are the only ones with the bands needed to be able to work on a variety of networks around the world, that has a stylus, can still record calls if running Oreo, and has Samsung Pay. There is no advantage for me to buy a Samsung without a stylus. The problem with the Note 8 is battery life and it would probably come with an older battery. For those reasons the Note 9 is the only duck in my pond. I couldn't use a Note 10 if someone gave it to me.
ADB access for most is about over, and Verizon is the name of a new virus that works around your OTA protections. I'm going to go with what Jammol stated on this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus this video for phone settings: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus install Package Disabler Pro+.
I have a Note 9 on the way, setting up my plan, and ordering and downloading. The phone is my mini business laptop. It has my mail, schedule, software to support people remotely, tracks my time, takes notes for my calls, etc. I don't use it for movies, games, or music. What turns my ears red is when they make changes that cost me thousands of dollars in lost history and change things to where I lose business functionality. If I find the guy who did Pie and took away my call recording, I'm going to revoke his social media accounts, take the transmission out of his car to keep him safe and from breaking the law with any inadvertent traffic violations, and board up all of the windows on his house to protect his privacy. I know what's best for his life. BTW, I'm Jack
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I looked around and even found a great condition pixel 2 XL that somebody was willing to trade for my Samsung Galaxy S8 but I was nervous about a used phone, and luckily once I called my carrier to check if the pixel would run on their Network they told me it didn't. I am with Eastlink Mobility in Eastern Canada and their firmware customer code or abbreviation is esk. They stated that they sell only the phones that work on their Networks (many) and phones purchased elsewhere would not work on there modem bands and would only be able to purchase second hand phone that they carry in store so that I would be okay and I would be able to connect to their towers. To me this sounds like a bunch of bul****, there are many many bands and Eastlink Mobility doesn't even own any Towers. The service they provide is through rented Towers from Bell Canada and Telus Canada and Rogers Canada. This being the case I would assume any phone that runs on any of these Networks should be able to be hooked up and used with my current provider without me having to purchase a brand new phone. I think it is a money grab and also all the phones that they do sell currently are not able to be rooted. Very small selection. Only newest Note 9+ Galaxy S10, iPhone X, and some cheapos that liik ancient.
FOR $150 a month I get...
Unlimited nationwide long distance calling. Unlimited local calling 24/7. I have insurance that covers everything even if I dropped it on concrete face down and stepped on it getting out of the car to pick it up and shattered the screen rendering the phone useless (whick I did a week after buying the note 9) God that sucked/was dumb. This insurance does not expire ever as long as I keep it on my plan. It doesn't matter the reason the phone is damaged so it's a pretty good insurance plan. I also get 7gb of mobile data each month and unlimited sms/mms but I'm still wondering if WiFi calling will be activated. I see through package Disabler there is a WiFi calling apk. why it'd be there if there was no intention on using it 1 day, but I'm sure Eastlink will be last to get it available. Google pay & Samsung pay are not compatible with my bank/country/provider so their just wasting space. I have bixby turned off atm. Single press - settings, double press - game launcher, & long hold press is screenshot. Quite handy, I used button remapper & setup on pc was a breeze. Wish me luck finding a "looked after" (female owner sosted prob never rooted) pixl 2.
I'm thinking I'll keep this note & use very lightly with my screen cover & Otterbox & sell before I'll lose out on resale when it becomes too low, meaning I'll sell if a good option appears & I can profit off mine still due to keeping EVERYTHING it came with. & in mint shape. Carrier unlocked but I think they have to unlock if requested now due to a law passe. The must provide you with free code. I have my Box, manual/warrenty, no scratches, all oem parts which most are still unopened or have never been used even, and in mint condition. Never been messed with or buggy issues. I'll keep my eyes open for pixel 2 but I'm pretty sure I'll run into the previous issue I mentioned. Denial by carrier.

TWiiTCH said:
If you have any questions on how to do things just PM me and we can chat.
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I took you up on that because I didn't want to reduce the usefulness of this thread to others by thread drift into chat over other topics and strategies, which I started doing already.