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will an unlocked bootloader cause updates to fail? any help would be appreciated.

Hi All,
I hope I am asking in the right area and forgive me if I havent.
I have a Mi Mix 128gb running Niui Global 8.0 Stable 8.0.7.0.0 MAHCNDI which I believe is a vendor rom? I try to go into updates as I see on the MIUI website there is a version 8.0.10.0. and I would like to update to that.
-I tried the update button where it takes a few seconds saying checking and comes back with no updates available.
-I then tried the choose update package in the update app and chose the rom I moved onto the phone (not in a folder as specified) and it says getting info and then comes back 'couldnt verify update package'.
-I then tried the reboot to recovery mode and named the rom 'update.zip' as specified and all I got when I tried to enter reboot to recovery mode from the actual update app was a black screen wth a phone and a cord plugged in and a website address, no graphical selection tool where I was able to select using volume up and down etc.
I had read somewhere it could be due to the fact that when the vendor flashed the global rom they may have left the bootloader unlocked and that is why the phone isnt finding the update or running it from the file on the phone.
Does this make any sense or am I just missing everything and doing something wrong?
If it is the unlocked can I lock it again to so that I am able to update.
I did try the other thread on verifying the bootloader and how to type in the command to relock it but I wasnt able to use the ADB as I am not all together familiar on how to use it.
If anyone out there can give me a hand I would be forever grateful and I would ask that if you can help that it be as detailed as possible as I need all the help I can get
Thanks so much in advance

Dis you get your Mi Mix from a vendor who loaded Gapps for you? I think that 8.0.7.0.0 is a vendor ROM, not the CN Stable or EU Stable ROM.
I suggest you find the ROM guideline thread here and update to the CN or EU Stable ROM
Best
J

It is definitely a vendor rom. To begin with, this phone has no Official Global rom yet. It states it is a global rom but in the Rom name it contains the letter CN, which identifies the rom as the chinese rom. Therefor yes, it is a vendor rom.
I don't have the phone yet so take my advice with a grain of salt, but i'm pretty sure that an unlocked bootloader does not interfere with installing roms/getting ota updates etc. Sorry, with an unlocked bootloader you can't get OTA updates. But you've got a vendor rom so you wouldn't be able to get one in the first place even with a locked bootloader.
I think that if your bootloader is really unlocked, the fastest and easiest way to flash the newest rom would be by using the MiFlash program from Xiaomi. Here's a guide for that:
http://en.miui.com/thread-307744-1-1.html
(Method 3, Step 2)
Let me know if you managed to flash it.

Blackphantom said:
It is definitely a vendor rom. To begin with, this phone has no Official Global rom yet. It states it is a global rom but in the Rom name it contains the letter CN, which identifies the rom as the chinese rom. Therefor yes, it is a vendor rom.
I don't have the phone yet so take my advice with a grain of salt, but i'm pretty sure that an unlocked bootloader does not interfere with installing roms/getting ota updates etc. Sorry, with an unlocked bootloader you can't get OTA updates. But you've got a vendor rom so you wouldn't be able to get one in the first place even with a locked bootloader.
I think that if your bootloader is really unlocked, the fastest and easiest way to flash the newest rom would be by using the MiFlash program from Xiaomi. Here's a guide for that:
http://en.miui.com/thread-307744-1-1.html
(Method 3, Step 2)
Let me know if you managed to flash it.
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Thanks very much for help. I managed to flash it to the official Chinese rom but now things like the proximity sensor isnt working and a few other things. Still cant get the google movies to download or play either so I will try your guide....will let you know how it goes.
Thanks again!

imapfsr said:
Thanks very much for help. I managed to flash it to the official Chinese rom but now things like the proximity sensor isnt working and a few other things. Still cant get the google movies to download or play either so I will try your guide....will let you know how it goes.
Thanks again!
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If by "google movies" you're referring to movies downloaded from google play, then make sure you disable download manager in the Miui appstore settings. It connects to a chinese proxy and therefor is buggy and really slow.

Thanks to everyone on this forum as I now have a EU rom running on my mix and everything is working. I can download and watch movies from Google Play, I can watch and download Netflix and Google Contacts (the app not sync) now installs and works. Now this is the phone I wanted it to be and I am thrilled.
Thanks again

imapfsr said:
Thanks to everyone on this forum as I now have a EU rom running on my mix and everything is working. I can download and watch movies from Google Play, I can watch and download Netflix and Google Contacts (the app not sync) now installs and works. Now this is the phone I wanted it to be and I am thrilled.
Thanks again
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Glad to hear that it worked out for you.

imapfsr said:
Thanks to everyone on this forum as I now have a EU rom running on my mix and everything is working. I can download and watch movies from Google Play, I can watch and download Netflix and Google Contacts (the app not sync) now installs and works. Now this is the phone I wanted it to be and I am thrilled.
Thanks again
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I would like to know how did you do it, because I need to do the same
TIA

stevm said:
I would like to know how did you do it, because I need to do the same
TIA
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Just follow the directions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/recovery-official-twrp-xiaomi-mi-mix-t3498960
And you shouldn't have any issues.
Did your phone come with the Global 8.0 Stable 8.0.7.0.0 MAHCNDI s that is what mine started with and the only issue was that I had to use the ADL mode to get the phone to recognize and take the TWRP so I could get the EU rom working. Been using it for a few days now and no issues whatsoever. Good luck!

TWRP, Root, CN vs EU...Confusion!

OK, I need some clarification please. I just ordered the phone on Swappa and will have it soon but I would like to have a plan in place for reaching my goal...A rooted phone with TWRP (don't know about what ROM yet)
I'm not sure what software will be on this phone when I get it (EU or Chinese stock/dev) but does that make a difference when attempting to put TWRP on the phone? Also, are there still 2 separate versions or is there just one now?
Also in regards to the initial root and TWRP procedure is it not possible to have SU zip on your phone beforehand or does it have to be transferred from your computer while in TWRP? Finally, the verity no opt encrypt zip must be flashed regardless of whether you are rooting or not? Many thanks for any and all help!

SantinoInc said:
I'm not sure what software will be on this phone when I get it (EU or Chinese stock/dev) but does that make a difference when attempting to put TWRP on the phone? Also, are there still 2 separate versions or is there just one now?
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Presently if you read max of the posts in major of the forums, you will find out there are three versions of ROM majorly (removing Chinese dev from the list as many don't seem to be on this) - If you are buying the phone from a reseller and not directly from xiaomi, mostly you will end up with Vendor ROM
1) Vendor ROM global (8.08.0 something version) which comes with very less bloatware and Google play services. Sometimes people said their bootloader was unlocked and for some its not. (mine was locked, so had to apply for unlock - It took 3 days to get the approval).
PLEASE NOTE THAT MANY TIMES THIS VENDOR ROM HAS A "NOTES APP" WITH TROJAN ON IT. MALWARE BYTES DETECTS THIS. HENCE I DECIDED TO GET OFF IT.
2) Chinese stable ROM - The official miui ROM. It has OTA updates but comes with bloatware and quite cumbersome to use for a non Chinese person like me or thats what I felt. If you really want to use Chinese stable (and still need google apps) there is a guide which is available some where in one of the forums, right now can't get hold of it somehow.
3) EU ROM (weekly updates - I believe to be done manually) - This one is so far the best I have used and very less bloatware (there is "Qunar travel" and one Chinese app that came with it. I simply uninstalled them blindly). Comes with google play services and you can download the rest from google store.
My journey so far is Vendor ROM --> Chinese Stable --> EU ROM (Non-root)
Why i didn't go directly from Vendor ROM to EU ROM is because
1) some of the users had issues with TWRP's touch non-responsiveness.
2) I want to see what is there on Chinese Stable before going to EU ROM, so that I can do a comparison.
For Vendor ROM to Chinese Stable use the guide below (by @satishp)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/kindly-help-flashing-to-china-stable-t3528652
For Chinese Stable (or if you want to try from Vendor ROM directly to EU ROM) to EU ROM use the guide below (by @underlines)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
Following the steps exactly in the above two guides, I was able to install EU ROM without any issues.
SantinoInc said:
Also in regards to the initial root and TWRP procedure is it not possible to have SU zip on your phone beforehand or does it have to be transferred from your computer while in TWRP?
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When you enable developer options on your phone and enable USB debugging, then I believe when you connect your phone to laptop/desktop it should connect using MTP and should be seen as device. So I guess you can copy the zip before hand on to the phone.
SantinoInc said:
Finally, the verity no opt encrypt zip must be flashed regardless of whether you are rooting or not? Many thanks for any and all help!
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All the guides mention that whenever you want to install the EU ROM without root, the dm-verity is compulsory to flash before reboot.
Hope this helps!!. Enjoy your MIX.

thehearty said:
Presently if you read max of the posts in major of the forums, you will find out there are three versions of ROM majorly (removing Chinese dev from the list as many don't seem to be on this) - If you are buying the phone from a reseller and not directly from xiaomi, mostly you will end up with Vendor ROM
1) Vendor ROM global (8.08.0 something version) which comes with very less bloatware and Google play services. Sometimes people said their bootloader was unlocked and for some its not. (mine was locked, so had to apply for unlock - It took 3 days to get the approval).
PLEASE NOTE THAT MANY TIMES THIS VENDOR ROM HAS A "NOTES APP" WITH TROJAN ON IT. MALWARE BYTES DETECTS THIS. HENCE I DECIDED TO GET OFF IT.
2) Chinese stable ROM - The official miui ROM. It has OTA updates but comes with bloatware and quite cumbersome to use for a non Chinese person like me or thats what I felt. If you really want to use Chinese stable (and still need google apps) there is a guide which is available some where in one of the forums, right now can't get hold of it somehow.
3) EU ROM (weekly updates - I believe to be done manually) - This one is so far the best I have used and very less bloatware (there is "Qunar travel" and one Chinese app that came with it. I simply uninstalled them blindly). Comes with google play services and you can download the rest from google store.
My journey so far is Vendor ROM --> Chinese Stable --> EU ROM (Non-root)
Why i didn't go directly from Vendor ROM to EU ROM is because
1) some of the users had issues with TWRP's touch non-responsiveness.
2) I want to see what is there on Chinese Stable before going to EU ROM, so that I can do a comparison.
For Vendor ROM to Chinese Stable use the guide below (by @satishp)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/kindly-help-flashing-to-china-stable-t3528652
For Chinese Stable (or if you want to try from Vendor ROM directly to EU ROM) to EU ROM use the guide below (by @underlines)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/guide-flash-global-china-rom-root-gapps-t3510592
Following the steps exactly in the above two guides, I was able to install EU ROM without any issues.
When you enable developer options on your phone and enable USB debugging, then I believe when you connect your phone to laptop/desktop it should connect using MTP and should be seen as device. So I guess you can copy the zip before hand on to the phone.
All the guides mention that whenever you want to install the EU ROM with/without root, the dm-verity is compulsory to flash before reboot.
Hope this helps!!. Enjoy your MIX.
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Wow, thank you so much for that very thorough answer! I will be getting the phone tomorrow and my goal will be to get the EU Rom on my phone with TWRP and Xposed.
One more small question. So if I happen to get the touch screen freeze (in TWRP or after system reboot) how do you recover from this situation?

SantinoInc said:
One more small question. So if I happen to get the touch screen freeze (in TWRP or after system reboot) how do you recover from this situation?
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I believe you have to go to Chinese Stable then using MiFlash or install one more version of TWRP which is compatible with Chinese ROM and then other steps. (one of the guides mentions these too)
But my suggestion is simply follow the steps in both the guides, go to chinese stable and then to EU ROM. Its worth the 15 min extra effort as surely i can tell this will not have problems and I believe you can definitely got to root/xposed too finally.
There is a small typo in my previous answer (I corrected it now). Sincere apologies for the same.
Dm-verity is not needed if you are going to root. If you flash to EU ROM and don't want root, then install dm-verity. This is as per the guide mentioned in my last answer.
Hope this helps.

Backing up stock rom before flashing another

Hi
I have been following the thread for the linage os in the View 10 forum.
Several people have reported it working on Honor 9 Lite which is treble compatible, before I try it out however I wanted to be sure I could go back to my current rom which is the official LLD-L31 for the UK honor 9 lite.
My current build number is LLD-L31 8.0.0.121(C432)
What options do I have to restore if I don't like the rom I flash?
So far I have managed to pull the System & ODM folders to my pc. all except the Vendor file due to a permissions error.
Is this enough? Can I simply push these folders back? and at which point do I attempt the push? When booted/in recovery etc?
Otherwise, Is there an official or unofficial Huawei/Honor restore tool? or maybe a full rom I can flash? HiSuite says it has this function, but my device isn't listed.
Sorry for all the questions, it's been a while since I flashed a rom & it was always via TWRP I understand treble roms are flashed via the stock recovery though

jusumgeezer said:
Hi
I have been following the thread for the linage os in the View 10 forum.
Several people have reported it working on Honor 9 Lite which is treble compatible, before I try it out however I wanted to be sure I could go back to my current rom which is the official LLD-L31 for the UK honor 9 lite.
My current build number is LLD-L31 8.0.0.121(C432)
What options do I have to restore if I don't like the rom I flash?
So far I have managed to pull the System & ODM folders to my pc. all except the Vendor file due to a permissions error.
Is this enough? Can I simply push these folders back? and at which point do I attempt the push? When booted/in recovery etc?
Otherwise, Is there an official or unofficial Huawei/Honor restore tool? or maybe a full rom I can flash? HiSuite says it has this function, but my device isn't listed.
Sorry for all the questions, it's been a while since I flashed a rom & it was always via TWRP I understand treble roms are flashed via the stock recovery though
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Search for Huawei ERecovery you may find something useful..

jusumgeezer said:
Hi
I have been following the thread for the linage os in the View 10 forum.
Several people have reported it working on Honor 9 Lite which is treble compatible, before I try it out however I wanted to be sure I could go back to my current rom which is the official LLD-L31 for the UK honor 9 lite.
My current build number is LLD-L31 8.0.0.121(C432)
What options do I have to restore if I don't like the rom I flash?
So far I have managed to pull the System & ODM folders to my pc. all except the Vendor file due to a permissions error.
Is this enough? Can I simply push these folders back? and at which point do I attempt the push? When booted/in recovery etc?
Otherwise, Is there an official or unofficial Huawei/Honor restore tool? or maybe a full rom I can flash? HiSuite says it has this function, but my device isn't listed.
Sorry for all the questions, it's been a while since I flashed a rom & it was always via TWRP I understand treble roms are flashed via the stock recovery though
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I have the same model and have also been following the thread. My understanding, and hopefully someone will correct if wrong, is that with project treble GSI you're only overwriting, via fastboot, system.img partition, therefore if you want to return to your original I suspect you can do the same thing again and fastboot original.img with a factory reset.
There is a utility called huawei firmware finder which allows you to look for firmware. I tried it but can only find the LLD-AL10 8.0.0.100(C675CUSTC675D4) which i think is for the 4/64GB veresion or may even be for the huawei P smart. Until honor make the firmware available not sure what other options exist.
BTW it would help if you report back with any success/failures if you try it. Also interested in what this version Lineage OS is missing/not working, I think the camera still has some issues last i checked the thread.

xzyk said:
I have the same model and have also been following the thread. My understanding, and hopefully someone will correct if wrong, is that with project treble GSI you're only overwriting, via fastboot, system.img partition, therefore if you want to return to your original I suspect you can do the same thing again and fastboot original.img with a factory reset.
There is a utility called huawei firmware finder which allows you to look for firmware. I tried it but can only find the LLD-AL10 8.0.0.100(C675CUSTC675D4) which i think is for the 4/64GB veresion or may even be for the huawei P smart. Until honor make the firmware available not sure what other options exist.
BTW it would help if you report back with any success/failures if you try it. Also interested in what this version Lineage OS is missing/not working, I think the camera still has some issues last i checked the thread.
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Thanks for the reply, I suspected that's how it worked, just flash back the original system image.
I think I'm gonna hang fire for the time being until I know I have the correct firmware to go back if needed, hopefully the camera will be sorted by then too.

I flashed a firmware today and couldn't revert to stock because can't find it. Any ideas?

evolucja said:
I flashed a firmware today and couldn't revert to stock because can't find it. Any ideas?
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When you unlocked your bootloader and before you overwrote your system partition you should have taken a backup of your stock system partition so you can restore it. Honor has not made the firmware available yet as far as I know.

xzyk said:
When you unlocked your bootloader and before you overwrote your system partition you should have taken a backup of your stock system partition so you can restore it. Honor has not made the firmware available yet as far as I know.
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Just in case I decide to try this, how do I get a flashable file?
I pulled the contents of system + odm via ADB but just ended up with 2.3GB of folders.
Can I convert this to a flashable .img file? Or should I have done this another way?

jusumgeezer said:
Just in case I decide to try this, how do I get a flashable file?
I pulled the contents of system + odm via ADB but just ended up with 2.3GB of folders.
Can I convert this to a flashable .img file? Or should I have done this another way?
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found description for how to do it for v10 on another site:
adb shell
su
dd if=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/system of=/storage/emulated/0/system.img
this implies root is required so I guess you would:
1. unlock bootloader
2. load TWRP.
3. load root (su).
4. reboot back into TWRP and save system.img.
However, you make it work you need to make sure system.img is saved before any changes are made.

xzyk said:
found description for how to do it for v10 on another site:
adb shell
su
dd if=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/system of=/storage/emulated/0/system.img
this implies root is required so I guess you would:
1. unlock bootloader
2. load TWRP.
3. load root (su).
4. reboot back into TWRP and save system.img.
However, you make it work you need to make sure system.img is saved before any changes are made.
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I was thinking about this today & came to the same conclusion.
The idea is to pull a clean unmodified system image, but the only way to do that is by using root privileges SU, then via TWRP - Does that not make it a modified image?
Maybe I'm thinking about it too much:silly:
What Root method & TWRP versions have Honor 9 Lite users had success with? I'm keen to give this a go

jusumgeezer said:
I was thinking about this today & came to the same conclusion.
The idea is to pull a clean unmodified system image, but the only way to do that is by using root privileges SU, then via TWRP - Does that not make it a modified image?
Maybe I'm thinking about it too much:silly:
What Root method & TWRP versions have Honor 9 Lite users had success with? I'm keen to give this a go
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Not TWRP as that is the recovery partition (recovery.img) not the system partition (system. Img). Not sure about root though as i believe that does add stuff in one, or more, of the system sub folders, maybe someone else can confirm, but if you're using superuser then unzipping that should tell you what's being added and where. However, if you think about it, this has always been a bit of an issue with any android. You cannot take a nandroid backup without some kind of custom recovery so how can you ever take a snapshot of the stock rom. Specialised tools can do it as they can dump the entire rom but how can any android be dumped in full straight out of the box without first changing something.?
You could try this:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
but it never really worked properly for me.

jusumgeezer said:
I was thinking about this today & came to the same conclusion.
The idea is to pull a clean unmodified system image, but the only way to do that is by using root privileges SU, then via TWRP - Does that not make it a modified image?
Maybe I'm thinking about it too much:silly:
What Root method & TWRP versions have Honor 9 Lite users had success with? I'm keen to give this a go
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xzyk said:
Not TWRP as that is the recovery partition (recovery.img) not the system partition (system. Img). Not sure about root though as i believe that does add stuff in one, or more, of the system sub folders, maybe someone else can confirm, but if you're using superuser then unzipping that should tell you what's being added and where. However, if you think about it, this has always been a bit of an issue with any android. You cannot take a nandroid backup without some kind of custom recovery so how can you ever take a snapshot of the stock rom. Specialised tools can do it as they can dump the entire rom but how can any android be dumped in full straight out of the box without first changing something.?
You could try this:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
but it never really worked properly for me.
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Guys TWRP Test Alpha build booted in Honor 9 Lite.
Tonight Stable build with all TWRP features is going to release in XDA i hope so.
Credits to @XePeleato - Team OpenKirin

VigneshS007 said:
Guys TWRP Test Alpha build booted in Honor 9 Lite.
Tonight Stable build with all TWRP features is going to release in XDA i hope so.
Credits to @XePeleato - Team OpenKirin
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Great, that's good news. Please report back with a link so we can all share. Thanks.

Thanks for the replies everyone.
Great news about TWRP too, I look forward to trying it out.

General MIUI 12.5.1.0 (RKBMIXM) Official Stable Global OTA ROM (Venus)

This is the stable, official OTA Global Rom for Xiaomi Mi 11 (Venus) released today. Enjoy.
MIUI v12.5.1.0 (RKBMIXM) Global Rom
Check my other post for extracted boot.img for it.
boot.img extract v12.5.1.0 (RKBMIXM)

Sorry for stupid questions... I am new in xiaomi... How can I install this on my phone? I think i have EEA. Bootloader is locked till monday. Thanks in advance

Hi , sorry for the questions I'm wanting to buy the Chinese mi 11 but like to know the process to flash stock global rom
After flashing will I get ota updates ?
Will banking apps work ?
5g will work I'm in the UK and see the band supported
Thank you

PeternelG said:
Sorry for stupid questions... I am new in xiaomi... How can I install this on my phone? I think i have EEA. Bootloader is locked till monday. Thanks in advance
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No question is stupid if helps you out. You'll need to have the bootloader unlocked unless it says RKBMIXM in your about phone section. EEA is RKBEUXM. If you're in Europe, I would stay with the EEA ROM because it seems to work better in general. Global might offer some better cellular signal in other places but it's iffy. I haven't really seen a difference in signal after switching from EEA to Global (I'm in the U.S). If you want to install it after unlocking the bootloader, then you should wait until c.mi.com uploads it on their site since it will be in a better format for it.
uscool said:
Hi , sorry for the questions I'm wanting to buy the Chinese mi 11 but like to know the process to flash stock global rom
After flashing will I get ota updates ?
Will banking apps work ?
5g will work I'm in the UK and see the band supported
Thank you
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Yes. You will get OTA updates. Banking apps work on mine just fine which is on global, unlocked, and has magisk. According to this, all 5G bands in the UK are supported. Widevine L1 is working on mine still after clean flashing Global.
This ROM isn't meant to flash from a different variant since it's an OTA. If you want flash the global ROM, follow these steps:
Unlock bootloader with Xiaomi MiUnlock tool (you'll have to wait 168hours)
Download the ROM you want from here
Then follow this guide (skip step 2 in this guide since you've already downloaded the ROM you wanted)

iamrance.asa said:
No question is stupid if helps you out. You'll need to have the bootloader unlocked unless it says RKBMIXM in your about phone section. EEA is RKBEUXM. If you're in Europe, I would stay with the EEA ROM because it seems to work better in general. Global might offer some better cellular signal in other places but it's iffy. I haven't really seen a difference in signal after switching from EEA to Global (I'm in the U.S). If you want to install it after unlocking the bootloader, then you should wait until c.mi.com uploads it on their site since it will be in a better format for it.
Yes. You will get OTA updates. Banking apps work on mine just fine which is on global, unlocked, and has magisk. According to this, all 5G bands in the UK are supported. Widevine L1 is working on mine still after clean flashing Global.
This ROM isn't meant to flash from a different variant since it's an OTA. If you want flash the global ROM, follow these steps:
Unlock bootloader with Xiaomi MiUnlock tool (you'll have to wait 168hours)
Download the ROM you want from here
Then follow this guide (skip step 2 in this guide since you've already downloaded the ROM you wanted)
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That's very clear to understand thanks for taking up the time to explain , I'll get the EEA as I'm in the UK the one thing I dont understand what is magisk ?
Thanks Again

uscool said:
That's very clear to understand thanks for taking up the time to explain , I'll get the EEA as I'm in the UK the one thing I dont understand what is magisk ?
Thanks Again
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Magisk is a systemless root method. Usually root will trip bank apps but you can hide Magisk and keep SafetyNet intact (this is what tell banking apps, etc if the device is modified or not). It's not necessary to have. I just figured you were planning on it since you asked about banking apps.

iamrance.asa said:
Magisk is a systemless root method. Usually root will trip bank apps but you can hide Magisk and keep SafetyNet intact (this is what tell banking apps, etc if the device is modified or not). It's not necessary to have. I just figured you were planning on it since you asked about banking apps.
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Would I need Magisk if flashing stock rom to have access to banking apps ? it leaves root open ? I would just prefer to the phone to act like stock and get OTA updates
Thanks

uscool said:
Would I need Magisk if flashing stock rom to have access to banking apps ? it leaves root open ? I would just prefer to the phone to act like stock and get OTA updates
Thanks
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No. You don't need it at all. Just an unlocked bootloader and the rom you're flashing is all.

iamrance.asa said:
No. You don't need it at all. Just an unlocked bootloader and the rom you're flashing is all.
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just made order for one, Thank you very much

With last update i see more ram used. I ve debloated my rom but previuosly i had 5gb ram free with 0.13 rom now 4gb.

uscool said:
just made order for one, Thank you very much
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Nice! What one did you order?

ghismo83 said:
With last update i see more ram used. I ve debloated my rom but previuosly i had 5gb ram free with 0.13 rom now 4gb.
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On 12.5.1.0?

iamrance.asa said:
Nice! What one did you order?
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8gb/128gb with Xiaomi GaN charger Type-C 55W
£514.00 and don't have to worry about custom charges 7/9 day delivery
Will flash stock EU rom

ghismo83 said:
With last update i see more ram used. I ve debloated my rom but previuosly i had 5gb ram free with 0.13 rom now 4gb.
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unused ram is wasted ram
it's not like on windows or something
it's basically good if there is not too much free ram

uscool said:
8gb/128gb with Xiaomi GaN charger Type-C 55W
£514.00 and don't have to worry about custom charges 7/9 day delivery
Will flash stock EU rom
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I ordered mine from GizTop, didn't have to pay any customs but it took forever to get here even when I paid for expedited. So it ended up arriving a couple days before the Pro/Ultra/11i were announced. Also came with an EU charger since that's the factory one, so I had to order a GaN charger for it. It wasn't the best experience but now I have two black/green ported 65w GaN blocks for it and a pretty neat magnetic cable. I spend around $38 for the first one, though. The second one I snagged for a cool $15
qvert said:
unused ram is wasted ram
it's not like on windows or something
it's basically good if there is not too much free ram
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I've honestly never really thought about ram consumption except for when it's causing slowdowns. I'll start keeping this in mind

iamrance.asa said:
I ordered mine from GizTop, didn't have to pay any customs but it took forever to get here even when I paid for expedited. So it ended up arriving a couple days before the Pro/Ultra/11i were announced. Also came with an EU charger since that's the factory one, so I had to order a GaN charger for it. It wasn't the best experience but now I have two black/green ported 65w GaN blocks for it and a pretty neat magnetic cable. I spend around $38 for the first one, though. The second one I snagged for a cool $15
I've honestly never really thought about ram consumption except for when it's causing slowdowns. I'll start keeping this in mind
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Damn I don't think I could handle that wait , I went with Wonda Mobile and have very good reviews hopefully get it quickly can't wait to try it currently have mi 9t looking forward checking out the 120hz and wanted bigger screen

uscool said:
Damn I don't think I could handle that wait , I went with Wonda Mobile and have very good reviews hopefully get it quickly can't wait to try it currently have mi 9t looking forward checking out the 120hz and wanted bigger screen
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Yeah, kind of killed my excitement by the time it got here. Planning to get the Ultra soon too because I'm a sucker for that camera bump on the back. Hopefully it won't take so long to get here but there really isn't many good options to get it here quick at a fair price

iamrance.asa said:
Yeah, kind of killed my excitement by the time it got here. Planning to get the Ultra soon too because I'm a sucker for that camera bump on the back. Hopefully it won't take so long to get here but there really isn't many good options to get it here quick at a fair price
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I dont use camera much so not the main thing for me also like how Xiaomi give you that option and still not taking away the rest of the spec , for example look at the s21 they also take away the screen size
So preparing with the files and looking at the guide
Decompress the MIUI ROM flashing tool downloaded in Step 1, and double click on it to install
The MiFlash2020-3-14-0 doesnt install can only decompress the files can you just select XiaoMiFlash.exe in folder to open it
The Rom file from the link you provided
miui_VENUSEEAGlobal_V12.0.13.0.RKBEUXM_27c451d5b7_11.0.zip
On the guide it says
(Please check if the ROM file suffix is '.tgz'. If it is '.gz', please rename it to '.tgz')
When I decompress the zip and try selecting it in MiFlash it says Couldnt Find flash script
Can I just download venus_eea_global_images_V12.0.13.0.RKBEUXM_20210402.0000.00_11.0_eea_4c0dda6f7f.tgz
Its in the guide
Also I make sure clean all and lock isnt selected
I just want stock EU ROM I just flash once and future updates done by OTA
Thanks

uscool said:
So preparing with the files and looking at the guide
Decompress the MIUI ROM flashing tool downloaded in Step 1, and double click on it to install
The MiFlash2020-3-14-0 doesnt install can only decompress the files can you just select XiaoMiFlash.exe in folder to open it
The Rom file from the link you provided
miui_VENUSEEAGlobal_V12.0.13.0.RKBEUXM_27c451d5b7_11.0.zip
On the guide it says
(Please check if the ROM file suffix is '.tgz'. If it is '.gz', please rename it to '.tgz')
Can I just download venus_eea_global_images_V12.0.13.0.RKBEUXM_20210402.0000.00_11.0_eea_4c0dda6f7f.tgz
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Yeah, that seems to be my bad. Download the one from the flashing guide in tgz for it. I didn't think about the ones in the Rom Downloads sections being in a different format.
By the way, you might have noticed this ROM is MIUI 12 and not the 12.5. So you will have an update soon after flashing but probably not instantly. When I flashed Global, it took a little for Updater to catch up. So don't worry if it doesn't show any updates when you first try.
uscool said:
So preparing with the files and looking at the guide
Decompress the MIUI ROM flashing tool downloaded in Step 1, and double click on it to install
The MiFlash2020-3-14-0 doesnt install can only decompress the files can you just select XiaoMiFlash.exe in folder to open it
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I'll update this section after I look on my computer for the miflash version I used. I first had a portable that didn't work (driver reading issues) so if I remember correctly, I downloaded an older one in msi format and updated. I
Itsin the guide
So it appears I downloaded two after the first portable. MiFlash 20181115 which seems to also be portable with more option and MiFlash v7.4.25 which installed on Windows. I would trying the newer first to see if it works correctly for you, then the second as a fallback. You can just click on XiaoMiFlash.exe in first one's folder.
uscool said:
Also I make sure clean all and lock isnt selected
I just want stock EU ROM I just flash once and future updates done by OTA
Thanks
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**update** You can't have lock on if you're on a China variant and using a ROM other than the China Official! It will result in brick since it doesn't support any other rom being locked on it!

iamrance.asa said:
Yeah, that seems to be my bad. Download the one from the flashing guide in tgz for it. I didn't think about the ones in the Rom Downloads sections being in a different format.
By the way, you might have noticed this ROM is MIUI 12 and not the 12.5. So you will have an update soon after flashing but probably not instantly. When I flashed Global, it took a little for Updater to catch up. So don't worry if it doesn't show any updates when you first try.
I'll update this section after I look on my computer for the miflash version I used. I first had a portable that didn't work (driver reading issues) so if I remember correctly, I downloaded an older one in msi format and updated. I
Itsin the guide
Yes you can keep it on "Clean all and lock." It will lock the bootloader back after flashing. It also gives you an error at the end if you just have "clean all" selected (something like lock script not initialized or something) which isn't something to be concerned about. It's also possible to wait and lock it with "fastboot oem lock" command, instead.
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No problem I don't mind not having latest update right away I can just wait for OTA just like I would if bought EU version
I was watching YouTube step by step on flashing and he mentioned not to select Clean all and lock it will brick the phone ?
Does it matter if I leave it open it won't effect banking apps ?
Thanks

Question Chinese apps after converting from COS to OOS

Hi comm.
I've ordered my Extreme Edition in Panda White, which hopefully should arrive till end of the week, so I'm reading all the posts and threads about converting and so on.. Because there are a lot of users which unluckily have bricked their phones, before I start with main topic from the title, just to confirm some things before I start my own conversion:
What's needed:
- Unlocked Bootloader
- Fastboot Enhance Tool
- Desired ROM, EU/IN
Special to care about:
- Be sure all COW partitions are deleted before flashing / otherwise brick
- Be sure no unknown partitions are detected before flashing / otherwise brick
All good so far?
There are different models:
- NE2115, I suppose US market?
- NE2213, I suppose Global market, EU & IN?
What for models are out there? Can anyone list them all with an short description?
I think it will also help any other user too out there, just to be clear and prevent any missmatch during downloading and staging the ROMs.
So, and now to the main topic, I've read somewhere in one of the threads here and it was also confirmed by other users, after converting from COS to OOS and performing an Factory- Reset, that the Chinese apps are back again. They can be deleted/deinstalled directly over the settings/apps menu on the phone, but they are still there..
Did anyone here, an more experienced user or maybe an dev. have figured out from where they are comming and is there an way to get rid of them permanently?
Many thanks and best
Adnan

m_adnan said:
Hi comm.
I've ordered my Extreme Edition in Panda White, which hopefully should arrive till end of the week, so I'm reading all the posts and threads about converting and so on.. Because there are a lot of users which unluckily have bricked their phones, before I start with main topic from the title, just to confirm some things before I start my own conversion:
What's needed:
- Unlocked Bootloader
- Fastboot Enhance Tool
- Desired ROM, EU/IN
Special to care about:
- Be sure all COW partitions are deleted before flashing / otherwise brick
- Be sure no unknown partitions are detected before flashing / otherwise brick
All good so far?
There are different models:
- NE2115, I suppose US market?
- NE2213, I suppose Global market, EU & IN?
What for models are out there? Can anyone list them all with an short description?
I think it will also help any other user too out there, just to be clear and prevent any missmatch during downloading and staging the ROMs.
So, and now to the main topic, I've read somewhere in one of the threads here and it was also confirmed by other users, after converting from COS to OOS and performing an Factory- Reset, that the Chinese apps are back again. They can be deleted/deinstalled directly over the settings/apps menu on the phone, but they are still there..
Did anyone here, an more experienced user or maybe an dev. have figured out from where they are comming and is there an way to get rid of them permanently?
Many thanks and best
Adnan
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Hi Adnan
I started a thread on the locked apps a month or so back but basically got told I shouldn't buy Chinese phones and it was just to bad. I would also like to resolve the issue I thought of maybe flashing a euro fast boot recovery onto the phone because noticed even on euro rom the fast boot recovery text was still Chinese when I reset the phone. I did not attempt for risk of brick. I have have been waiting for someone with some knowledge to post a thread on this so I can fix so I will be watching this very closely. good luck

kruhmp said:
Hi Adnan
I started a thread on the locked apps a month or so back but basically got told I shouldn't buy Chinese phones and it was just to bad. I would also like to resolve the issue I thought of maybe flashing a euro fast boot recovery onto the phone because noticed even on euro rom the fast boot recovery text was still Chinese when I reset the phone. I did not attempt for risk of brick. I have have been waiting for someone with some knowledge to post a thread on this so I can fix so I will be watching this very closely. good luck
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I suppose, that all the partitions, recovery, boot, system and so on, should be reflashed / overwritten when you flash with the Fastboot Enhance Tool and the Payload.bin file.
My device will arrive today, so I'll give a try..

kruhmp said:
Hi Adnan
I started a thread on the locked apps a month or so back but basically got told I shouldn't buy Chinese phones and it was just to bad. I would also like to resolve the issue I thought of maybe flashing a euro fast boot recovery onto the phone because noticed even on euro rom the fast boot recovery text was still Chinese when I reset the phone. I did not attempt for risk of brick. I have have been waiting for someone with some knowledge to post a thread on this so I can fix so I will be watching this very closely. good luck
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I'm done with my conversion, so far, all good.. Chinese apps are there, after every factory reset, but they are all deinstallable.. Didn't find from where they are comming, but I suppose there are two variants:
- An hidden partition with Chinese apps
- An app which is provisoning the apps during the first setup wizzard
I think an DEV or so should take a look at it.
What I didn't try is, there is an offical rollback package on OnePlus comm. because of Android Dev. Preview, maybe flashing this one would remove the Chinese apps? Will try it out, otherwise everything was good, no problems at all.

I installed android 13 dev last night and used rollback, no Chinese apps yet will do a factory restore later I will post my results.

kruhmp said:
I installed android 13 dev last night and used rollback, no Chinese apps yet will do a factory restore later I will post my results.
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I also had the idea, but I can't install it, everytime I choose local update, it kicks me back to the about the device screen.. or do I need the APK for NA? But, I'm allready on the EU ROM, so it shouldn't be necessary?

adnan.makarevic said:
I also had the idea, but I can't install it, everytime I choose local update, it kicks me back to the about the device screen.. or do I need the APK for NA? But, I'm allready on the EU ROM, so it shouldn't be necessary?
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Just done factory reset and no Chinese bloat hooray!! I used the OPLocalUpdate_For_Android13.apk on oxygen updater app to install android 13/T Dev Preview after changing update method in settings the app. Then the rollback package with the OPLocal_For_Android12.apk to roll back. "I hope this makes sense"

kruhmp said:
Just done factory reset and no Chinese bloat hooray!! I used the OPLocalUpdate_For_Android13.apk on oxygen updater app to install android 13/T Dev Preview after changing update method in settings the app. Then the rollback package with the OPLocal_For_Android12.apk to roll back. "I hope this makes sense"
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And which version of dev. preview did you use? EU or NA?

EU

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For this operation I used Oxygen Updater by adhira S. Chauhan from play store, and followed the instructions https://oxygenupdater.com/article/319/ to download and rollback the EU android 13/T Dev Preview

So finally I was able to get rid of all chinese apps, but an install of Dev. Preview wasn't necessary. I've downloaded the rollback package of A12 from OnePlus, then I rebooted the phone to fastbootd, and entered the recovery on the phone.
Then I flashed the Payload.bin file, and all was good. Since then, I did two factory resets, and both time, the phone was up without any Chinese stuff.

kruhmp said:
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For this operation I used Oxygen Updater by adhira S. Chauhan from play store, and followed the instructions https://oxygenupdater.com/article/319/ to download and rollback the EU android 13/T Dev Preview
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Did you get the A13 update?

dude u’d better flash 9008 package for oxygen os. the base band was different between china model and global model.
it’s easy to find package at op.daxiaamu.com（大侠阿木云盘）
also fXXX color os and OPPO . it break my favorite hydrogen os and oxygen os and replaced with junk color os
if you updated to oxygen 12 or above. it just a color os were forced to call “oxygen os”
da nn n filemanager and ugly luncher

dude u’d better flash 9008 package for oxygen os. the base band was different between china model and global model.
you may find package at op.daxiaamu.cn（大侠阿木云盘）after some updates
also fXXX color os and OPPO . it break my favorite hydrogen os and oxygen os and replaced with junk color os
if you updated to oxygen 12 or above. it just a color os were forced to call “oxygen os”
da nn n filemanager and ugly

Markpeng0315 said:
dude u’d better flash 9008 package for oxygen os. the base band was different between china model and global model.
you may find package at op.daxiaamu.cn（大侠阿木云盘）after some updates
also fXXX color os and OPPO . it break my favorite hydrogen os and oxygen os and replaced with junk color os
if you updated to oxygen 12 or above. it just a color os were forced to call “oxygen os”
da nn n filemanager and ug
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What do you mean by the 9008 package? Are you talking about modem baseband?

please can you elaborate a little on package 9008 and how and why we need to flash ???

kruhmp said:
please can you elaborate a little on package 9008 and how and why we need to flash ???
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So it occurred to me that 9008 is EDL mode. A mode in which the phone can accept msm firehose restorations. I just want to know if modem firmware changes from the Chinese version to whichever variant (EU/global) you flash to

bacon612 said:
So it occurred to me that 9008 is EDL mode. A mode in which the phone can accept msm firehose restorations. I just want to know if modem firmware changes from the Chinese version to whichever variant (EU/global) you flash to
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A bit to high for me right now, 9008 seams to be for an EDL mode, but as much as I know, for EDL mode we need MSM tool, which is still not out yet.. Also, have no idea what 9008 is, EDL mode OK, but EU, IN, NA? Version and so on.. The risk to flash something wrong and to end with an brick, where we currently don't have an option to unbick is just to high..

Markpeng0315 said:
dude u’d better flash 9008 package for oxygen os. the base band was different between china model and global model.
you may find package at op.daxiaamu.cn（大侠阿木云盘）after some updates
also fXXX color os and OPPO . it break my favorite hydrogen os and oxygen os and replaced with junk color os
if you updated to oxygen 12 or above. it just a color os were forced to call “oxygen os”
da nn n filemanager and ugly
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There isn't an OOS MSM anywhere for the 10 Pro that I have seen, only COS, and the COS MSM requires tech support to actually log in to be of any use.