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Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M
spartanm99 said:
Hello!
My first thread there but long time follower of this forum.
I know that we don't have any reviews of the Nexus 6 yet (well nothing substantial enough anyway) and I'm not sure when we will get these, but I have some questions.
1. Is there any point in getting the Nexus 6 when you can potentially get the Note 4 Developer Edition? Same specs overall, slightly smaller screen, potentially better cameras, slimmer.
2. I saw some posts about this before but my question is more specific: Assuming the Nexus 6 gets the previous generation of Samsung's screen (like the Note 3/GS4) - will it have any tweaks to bring it up to scratch? Surely they wont just use the old tech and extend the size of the screen & bump resolution will they? If they did that wouldn't the screen still maintain the same issues as before (low brightness, not as vidid colours etc)? I'm curious to see how the screen really performs IF it is the old tech. I do not think there is any chance at all that the Nexus 6 will use the same screen as the Note 4. This is a Moto phone after all...not a Samsung flagship.
3. Without the advanced camera tech (in regards to shutter speed etc) included in the G3 and iPhone 6+, do you think that the Nexus 6 will be noticeably slower at taking pictures compared with other phones? I see much discussion on this but ultimately this core question has no clear answers (I guess we'll have to wait for reviews but Im asking anyway; I've not seen many good reviewers on shutter speed. E.g. back when the Galaxy Nexus was released I read it was "super super fast" at taking pictures...it takes from 1 to 3 seconds to snap now).
4. At over 1cm thick and with such a large display how solid is this phone expected to be if it is dropped? Im not familiar with Moto phones but if I drop a Galaxy in normal use the screen is usually fine and there is not much more than scratches. I dropped my Nexus 5 on its back once and the entire front of the screen was destroyed. Just curious about the build quality and what is expected here - I've read mixed things about Moto quality so far.
5. If I shell out for two Nexus 6 phones now (yes I need two; one for me and one for my girlfriend) do you think that they will be good for 2 years of use? Or would it be wiser to purchase two Nexus 5 devices now and upgrade to the Nexus '7' phone (or whatever it will be) next year? I ask because this is still 32bit and we are on the cusp of a new era of 64bit Android phones. I feel like the Nexus 6 (while up to date now) will be significantly outpaced (more than usual) come this time next year. I just don't want to be caught out.
Thank you for your time reading my post; happy to hear any kinds of answers
Regards
M
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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided
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Welcome to XDA and may I say an excellent first post !!
1. It depends on what you feel about a physical home button, and what rom you want to run. Running Samsung's software means you won't get pure Android, and running Android means you'll have to give up multi-window, stylus etc. But you would in both cases have removable battery, sd card and an amazing screen. Nexus 6 can't match the first two.
2. Chances of screen matching the Note 4 are very low, but it is a premium device and should use a nice panel with few compromises
3. The camera should be better, the hands on from Verge even commented on it and it seemed pretty fast in the video. The sensor is not the same as Note 4 but it does have better low light performance.
4. Dropping a phone can have wildly different results based on angle. Moto phones have good build quality
5. Its your decision, are you willing to buy 2 N6's, and next year sell and upgrade to the next Nexus? Will you be on contract? You can get one N5 and one N6 to cover both bases.
A lot of your questions will get answered once reviews come out in a few weeks. But if you feel an unholy lust for the phone like some of us do then there really is no decision to be made and its already decided
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Thank you so much for the response I appreciate it
You've made some good points and thanks for the input on the Moto phone quality. I might consider getting 1 N6 for my girlfriend and I might get a replacement N5 (currently we both do have any good phones to use to last us another year.); both would be off contract of course as we are in Australia (purchase directly from Google or Moto unlocked).
I guess I'll have my fingers crossed for a detailed review (or two) to be released just before the presale opens.
Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.
Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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Do you have the option of purchasing phones from Xiaomi, Oppo etc in Australia? They make some great phones at very good prices, just a suggestion. I personally am a big fan of Xiaomi due to their MIUI rom.
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I've never heard of the Xiaomi before but I will look into that thank you! I'm not sure if we have the option to get it here; I've heard of the Oppo but I've never seen one before. I must do some research on this phone too.
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Oppo are about to announce the N3 so worth watching for
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Thanks for this info - I'll have a look at it!
Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.
spartanm99 said:
Would anyone here be able to assist me with info on the Xiaomi and other Chinese phones & the quality?
I've looked into the advice in this thread and I've come across an upcoming phone - Vivo PD1305 (specs below).
Questions:
- Are the build quality on these kinds of phones comparable to the Nexus 6/Galaxy series?
- Are the screens comparable to the N6/Galaxy series?
- What about the cameras, radios & sound?
I'm just not sure but the specs on the phone I've mentioned are extremely impressive and what (in my opinion) the Nexus 6 SHOULD have included. Also the price is about $300 cheaper than the Nexus 6 (in Australia).
Specs:
Snapdragon 805
3 gig RAM
6 inch 1440x2560 QHD Display
32gb memory (expandable up to 128gig)
158mm x 81mm x 5.68mm in size
162 grams
An amazing 1.8 16mp rear camera with dual LED Flash
An impressive 8mp front facing camera with LED Flash
Stereo speakers
Fingerprint scanner
3,600 - 4,000mh battery
Price: (AUD equivalent) = $580 outright, unlocked.
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Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.
Dr Faustus said:
Hell, while we are at it why not include direct SAT communications and free HW upgrades for life?
There is a difference between dream and reality. One is the one we are living in now, the other is where I can dream up a fusion reactor battery and antigrav stability for drop protection. Just be damn grateful we are getting a Nexus at all this year considering how likely Silver was and how likely ARA might be taking Nexus over next year.
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No need for sarcasm as the specs for the phone that I posted are pretty legitimate sounding, and some sources claim 100% real. Also looking at their previous model (nearly a year old) as well as the current (and upcoming) competition in China - the specs I posted for the above phone are not only possible, but will very likely exist before the Nexus 6 is but a few months old.
These Chinese manufacturers are progressing far faster than the Nexus series (or many other Android phones) have ever done. Under 6mm thick, 3500mh+ battery, Snapdragon 805+ processor, 3gb RAM+, QHD 6" screen etc is totally within reason on the latest Chinese manufacturer phones.
Just found a store selling a brand new 5X 32GB for about 284$ which seems considerably cheaper compared elsewhere. I've made the order hoping it isn't priced in error. Anyways, I've been reading up on users opinion about it and alot of them have complained about it being sluggish and stuttering at times particularly after running it a few days. I'm thinking if it could replace my N6 and just give it away to my dad. What do you think considering the price tag and do you reckon Google will ever solve the lag issues considering they're not even acknowledging it in the first place?
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bushako said:
Just found a store selling a brand new 5X 32GB for about 284$ which seems considerably cheaper compared elsewhere. I've made the order hoping it isn't priced in error. Anyways, I've been reading up on users opinion about it and alot of them have complained about it being sluggish and stuttering at times particularly after running it a few days. I'm thinking if it could replace my N6 and just give it away to my dad. What do you think considering the price tag and do you reckon Google will ever solve the lag issues considering they're not even acknowledging it in the first place?
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Until now, I still don't understand why Google released TWO versions of the Nexus last year. Seemed asinine and somewhat misguided from what they originated "Nexus" as: lower cost phone, no frills, good hardware.
Beginning with the Nexus 6, the price tag has bumped up, they are playing keep up with the jumbo-sized phones, and now trying to make it "premium". My favorite still is the Nexus 5. Very low cost, low profile, and packed with good hardware. The 6 which I have isn't too bad although huge, but the 6p and 5x just leaves me scratching my head.
If the 2016 Nexus were just the Nexus 6 with beefed up hardware, that would be perfect. The 6p in particular has the size with wider bezels (less screen).
mikeprius said:
Until now, I still don't understand why Google released TWO versions of the Nexus last year. Seemed asinine and somewhat misguided from what they originated "Nexus" as: lower cost phone, no frills, good hardware.
Beginning with the Nexus 6, the price tag has bumped up, they are playing keep up with the jumbo-sized phones, and now trying to make it "premium". My favorite still is the Nexus 5. Very low cost, low profile, and packed with good hardware. The 6 which I have isn't too bad although huge, but the 6p and 5x just leaves me scratching my head.
If the 2016 Nexus were just the Nexus 6 with beefed up hardware, that would be perfect. The 6p in particular has the size with wider bezels (less screen).
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Honestly I don't think the Nexus was ever meant to be affordable I always considered it a premium. It just so happens that since LG, concept of a Nexus shifted showing how they could produce affordable device with unnecessary compromises. I use to own an N5 and I'd still enjoy using it, it had everything I needed not to mention the dimension is almost perfect for me. I would've paid a premium for the 5x if they hadn't stuck with the ****ty 808 and only 2 gigs of ram. But as mentioned in OP, for the price I'm getting it now its tempting.
I do agree tho Google should've just stuck with a single device each year, would've made things alot simpler. I hope they don't continue with the current trend this year's release.
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bushako said:
Honestly I don't think the Nexus was ever meant to be affordable I always considered it a premium. It just so happens that since LG, concept of a Nexus shifted showing how they could produce affordable device with unnecessary compromises. I use to own an N5 and I'd still enjoy using it, it had everything I needed not to mention the dimension is almost perfect for me. I would've paid a premium for the 5x if they hadn't stuck with the ****ty 808 and only 2 gigs of ram. But as mentioned in OP, for the price I'm getting it now its tempting.
I do agree tho Google should've just stuck with a single device each year, would've made things alot simpler. I hope they don't continue with the current trend this year's release.
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I noticed you are in another country so I'm not sure what the pricing structure is there, but here in the US most phones (ignoring the carrier subsidies) are around the $500+ mark. Samsung Galaxy phones brand new are $600+ and the Samsung Notes and Apple iPhones are over $600+ as well.
A Nexus 5 was priced around $300-400. This is comparably cheaper than the mainstream phones. Nexus was never supposed to target the same audience as Samsung and Apple. Their audience was more for customization and less bells and whistles. It seems that Nexus is getting away from that. I see several users who say they want Android Pay to work and are sticking with "stock Google". In my opinion personally if I wanted standard bread and butter, stay stock, or have android pay instead of root, I'd get a Samsung instead of a Nexus.
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I noticed you are in another country so I'm not sure what the pricing structure is there, but here in the US most phones (ignoring the carrier subsidies) are around the $500+ mark. Samsung Galaxy phones brand new are $600+ and the Samsung Notes and Apple iPhones are over $600+ as well.
A Nexus 5 was priced around $300-400. This is comparably cheaper than the mainstream phones. Nexus was never supposed to target the same audience as Samsung and Apple. Their audience was more for customization and less bells and whistles. It seems that Nexus is getting away from that. I see several users who say they want Android Pay to work and are sticking with "stock Google". In my opinion personally if I wanted standard bread and butter, stay stock, or have android pay instead of root, I'd get a Samsung instead of a Nexus.
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Yea I moved to Dubai a while back. Pricing for unsubsidized phones are the same here with the exception of "unpopular" devices like the Nexus especially during the initial launch. The Nexus 5X 32GB when released was being sold here for 544$ but gradually it came down and got inline with the actual pricing of Google. I got my Nexus 6 32GB a few months back for 365$. At the time it was similar to the price available in the US at least until Amazon started selling them for dirt cheap.
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bushako said:
Just found a store selling a brand new 5X 32GB for about 284$ which seems considerably cheaper compared elsewhere. I've made the order hoping it isn't priced in error. Anyways, I've been reading up on users opinion about it and alot of them have complained about it being sluggish and stuttering at times particularly after running it a few days. I'm thinking if it could replace my N6 and just give it away to my dad. What do you think considering the price tag and do you reckon Google will ever solve the lag issues considering they're not even acknowledging it in the first place?
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EVERYTHING can become sluggish after a few days, if you're running crap software on it. You'll find the exact same complaints about *EVERY* phone. The 5x is a really nice phone. Graphics on it are way better (smoother/faster) than on the Nexus 6 (basically the same GPU, but pushing only 2.1 million pixels instead of 3.7 million).
While the CPU on the 5x is NOT as strong as the Nexus 6, its still a solid chip and good all-around performer.
Note that even comparing the Nexus 6 with the 6p, you will find the 6's SD805 whipping it in places, specifically, the SD805 is very strong on a per-thread basis. Its got 4 wickedly fast cores. The 810 only beats it in highly multi-threaded processing, since it can throw all 8 cores into it. All in all, I'd rate the 805 and 810 to be "equal" on the highly subjective basis of "as good as".
I like the 5x, its a really nice phone.
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mikeprius said:
Until now, I still don't understand why Google released TWO versions of the Nexus last year. Seemed asinine and somewhat misguided from what they originated "Nexus" as: lower cost phone, no frills, good hardware.
Beginning with the Nexus 6, the price tag has bumped up, they are playing keep up with the jumbo-sized phones, and now trying to make it "premium". My favorite still is the Nexus 5. Very low cost, low profile, and packed with good hardware. The 6 which I have isn't too bad although huge, but the 6p and 5x just leaves me scratching my head.
If the 2016 Nexus were just the Nexus 6 with beefed up hardware, that would be perfect. The 6p in particular has the size with wider bezels (less screen).
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The *reason* for having TWO this year, is because the 6" alienated a lot of potential customers. While there is a certain portion of the population who likes something as enormous as 6", once you put on a rubber bumper (like a Ballistic Maxx) to protect against 2-year-olds, you might as well be carrying around a cinder block.
Frankly, the size of the N6 was one of two disappointments to me, the other being the AMOLED display. Unfortunately, I *needed* a new phone last year, and wasn't willing to put up with another piece of crap samsuck. If the 5x was available last year, that's what I would have bought. I don't need or want it to be this big, but its what I got stuck with.
doitright said:
EVERYTHING can become sluggish after a few days, if you're running crap software on it. You'll find the exact same complaints about *EVERY* phone. The 5x is a really nice phone. Graphics on it are way better (smoother/faster) than on the Nexus 6 (basically the same GPU, but pushing only 2.1 million pixels instead of 3.7 million).
While the CPU on the 5x is NOT as strong as the Nexus 6, its still a solid chip and good all-around performer.
Note that even comparing the Nexus 6 with the 6p, you will find the 6's SD805 whipping it in places, specifically, the SD805 is very strong on a per-thread basis. Its got 4 wickedly fast cores. The 810 only beats it in highly multi-threaded processing, since it can throw all 8 cores into it. All in all, I'd rate the 805 and 810 to be "equal" on the highly subjective basis of "as good as".
I like the 5x, its a really nice phone.
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The *reason* for having TWO this year, is because the 6" alienated a lot of potential customers. While there is a certain portion of the population who likes something as enormous as 6", once you put on a rubber bumper (like a Ballistic Maxx) to protect against 2-year-olds, you might as well be carrying around a cinder block.
Frankly, the size of the N6 was one of two disappointments to me, the other being the AMOLED display. Unfortunately, I *needed* a new phone last year, and wasn't willing to put up with another piece of crap samsuck. If the 5x was available last year, that's what I would have bought. I don't need or want it to be this big, but its what I got stuck with.
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Actually they have different GPUs, the N6 uses a more powerful Adreno 430 whereas the 5X has a slightly less powerful Adreno 418. Tests have even proven that the N6 beats the 5X in the graphic department. If anything the 808 seems like an upgrade from the 801 while the 810 is an upgrade of the 805.
I understand what you mean with the sluggishness accompanied by installing useless junk but these are legitimate complaints by many individuals who have bought the 5X only days after purchasing it. They've tested it running on bare minimum apps and vice versa, the problems still persist including different roms both stock and custom.
My N6 has over a 100apps, xposed and various tweaks and still runs smoothly.
Theres no reason why it should run this bad considering the N5 runs circles around the 5X in overall usability. It leads me to believe that it's a badly coded drivers on the 5X that needs to be acknowledged and addressed by both LG and Google instead of just releasing security updates.
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bushako said:
Actually they have different GPUs, the N6 uses a more powerful Adreno 430 whereas the 5X has a slightly less powerful Adreno 418. Tests have even proven that the N6 beats the 5X in the graphic department. If anything the 808 seems like an upgrade from the 801 while the 810 is an upgrade of the 805.
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N6 has Adreno 420, which regardless of magic number, has the exact same spec as the 418.... except that the 418 is on 20 nm, vs the 420 being 28 nm. So that means less power and less heat, which means running full out for longer periods of time without performance having to be sacrificed.
So yeah, the 808 technically has a BETTER GPU than the 805.
FYI: The Adreno 430 is on the N6P/SD810.
I understand what you mean with the sluggishness accompanied by installing useless junk but these are legitimate complaints by many individuals who have bought the 5X only days after purchasing it. They've tested it running on bare minimum apps and vice versa, the problems still persist including different roms both stock and custom.
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Except that those complaints are entirely baseless.
First off, anyone playing with custom hackjobs is IMMEDIATELY disqualified from making any claims, because we know that whatever they are running is probably some kind of crap CM or fork-of-CM, which as a "retired" CM maintainer -- I would NEVER use anything CM. VERY VERY bad coding practices, and throw in everything and the kitchen sink, just to make sure that performance sucks and your experience is PURE BUG.
N5X performs WONDERFULLY on factory, factory-light-tweak, AOSP, and AOSP-light-tweak. I say this with authority and experience.
My N6 has over a 100apps, xposed and various tweaks and still runs smoothly.
Theres no reason why it should run this bad considering the N5 runs circles around the 5X in overall usability. It leads me to believe that it's a badly coded drivers on the 5X that needs to be acknowledged and addressed by both LG and Google instead of just releasing security updates.
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There is nothing for them *TO* address. The N5X absolutely runs circles around the N5.
I am really hoping Google would get the price right for the Pixel 5. It was leaked that the price of the Pixel 5g phones was starting at $500 that is of Pixel 4A 5G or Pixel 5.
The OnePlus Nord is having the same chipset Snapdragon 765G and similar specs priced at $400. They both have Amoled display, 90Hz refresh rate, Snapdragon 765G, 128GB 8GB Ram, 4000mAh battery.
I think Pixel 5 can cut down the cost since it is the smaller phone than Pixel 4A 5G. It is using the mid level SOC chipset Snapdragon 765G and only one variant 128GB 8GB one so it can greatly reduce its price.
Some extra features that it includes are wireless charging and ip68 rating which I find useless, wished they would have cut down on cost but some may like it. Pixel 5 is using the same sensor its been using since Pixel 2 for main camera but it also includes an ultrawide camera for first time which is a game changer. I would really like a Pixel phone for the Camera and software experience.
So the estimated price may be upto $550-$600. But I am really hoping that the Pixel 5 releases at $500.
I'd anticipate a high price for at least one of them..coupled with the 865+
The 500 mark would be reserved for their mid range device.
They can get away with the prices because it's Google and it has the pixel name..plus the camera will be decent Vs other brands, although that gap has been severely reduced.
Have to say owning the 1+8 pro, the ultra wide camera is excellent, the amount of times it comes in handy Vs anyone's device I'm in the company of..
Play it safe and don't expect too much from a company who have raised the price year on year, it's business, they can't stop now, would Apple?
Crap but unfortunately true..
Looks like the Pixel 5 is coming in at EUR 629 in Germany. Different estimates translate that into USD 649-699 for the US.
Germany's VAT is temporarily lowered, so EUR prices elsewhere in EU may be slightly higher.
Confirmed $649. Not bad!
It wont be launched in India. Anyway to get it ?
The OnePlus Nord isn't slated to come to the US, so the pricing isn't a fair comparison in my opinion. If they were to sell it here, it'd cost more. We'll just have to wait and see where that initial price point is. There's value in the camera, software updates, wireless charging, IP68, etc to a lot of folks. I'm perfectly happy with a 765G chipset. I know this because I'm perfectly happy with the performance of the 835 that rests in my aging Pixel 2. I'd rather have the battery life, personally.
629€ is more then I wanted to pay for this phone. I'm thinking to go with the 4a,but I'm not sure either.
I own a decent Nokia 9,but the hanging Camera is a pain. So this time I wanted to go for a pixel. Sadly, the 5 isn't clearly that much better then the 4/4a in my opinion.
629€ for an top CPU would be OK, but in this case... I'm not sure what to do
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629 Euros is £576. Whilst we do tend to get ripped off over here on exchange rates, I would be okay with paying £599.
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629 Euros is £576. Whilst we do tend to get ripped off over here on exchange rates, I would be okay with paying £599.
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I do believe that $699 USD is confirmed by some very trusted sources. Slightly higher than I wanted to pay which only means I will now sell my P4 orange (mint) rather than gifting it to my wife. She loves her P3 anyway and would not be happy with face unlock with mask requirements. I'm looking forward to getting rid of that as well. After the sale I'll probably be out around 2 bills but the battery will make up for that imo.
While $650 or 650€ seems like a lot to pay for a phone with the same base specs as the Oneplus Nord, remember that the Pixel 5 (along with the 4a 5G which probably slots in at $500) is likely to be the only Android phone with a CLEAN fully capable RAW ultrawide camera. For me this is easily worth an additional $100 or so, and the IP rating and wireless charging make up the rest of the difference for me. Sure, I would rather pay $500 for a Pixel 4a 5G with 8GB of RAM, but as things stand (especially with the likely delay of the 4a 5G) I'm willing to pony up for the Pixel 5 at launch. I just hope they don't screw anything up, like putting in a dimmer display than the 4a has...
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While $650 or 650€ seems like a lot to pay for a phone with the same base specs as the Oneplus Nord, remember that the Pixel 5 (along with the 4a 5G which probably slots in at $500) is likely to be the only Android phone with a CLEAN fully capable RAW ultrawide camera. For me this is easily worth an additional $100 or so, and the IP rating and wireless charging make up the rest of the difference for me. Sure, I would rather pay $500 for a Pixel 4a 5G with 8GB of RAM, but as things stand (especially with the likely delay of the 4a 5G) I'm willing to pony up for the Pixel 5 at launch. I just hope they don't screw anything up, like putting in a dimmer display than the 4a has...
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Lol no. 4a 5G at $499 is good, pixel 5 should be $599 maximum. If all the leaks are true it does not warrant a $699 price tag considering it’s using the S765G. And where did you hear the raw fully clean ultra wide? And how is that worth an extra $100? Phones like the S20 FE and the oneplus 8T are both gonna be $699 while offering more. Remember that Google is taking away the telephoto. Not worth $699
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Lol yes. As stated above: FOR ME, a clean ultrawide implementation with full RAW support is easily worth $100 extra. I find it funny that you feel you can refute that . And the clean implementation is an assumption, by the way - based on the fact that Google is one of the few companies that enabled RAW with no fuss at all on the Pixel 4 telephoto camera. I'm hoping the Ultrawide will be similarly stress-free.
The S20 FE is crippled in weird ways (display brightness, RAM, the usual restriction to RAW only on the main camera) and the 8T is likely to be 799€ at launch - and it's a Oneplus, so a meh track record for support.
I agree that the Pixel is overpriced for the platform. I just don't care enough not to buy it because the alternatives all have their own problems.
Everyone got their own reason to ditch a certain brand or Phone series. For me: I had several OnePlus phones (early days) and they all lacked of something. Either LTE was bad GPS did not work properly Cam was dieing. On top was the Data Collection "topic" they tried to hide from the user. Since then they are dead to me. I went for an Android One after that. HTC something.. Everything was working but the phone was low end so I switched to Nokia 9.
The Camera and the Finger Print is both horrible. Now I want to give the Pixel a try.
I will watch the release today maybe I'll go directly for it or later this year.
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Lol no. 4a 5G at $499 is good, pixel 5 should be $599 maximum. If all the leaks are true it does not warrant a $699 price tag considering it’s using the S765G. And where did you hear the raw fully clean ultra wide? And how is that worth an extra $100? Phones like the S20 FE and the oneplus 8T are both gonna be $699 while offering more. Remember that Google is taking away the telephoto. Not worth $699
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iPhone? I thought you had the OnePlus 8. lol But $599 will be the price if you wait until BF and then maybe even less. If they put this out at $599 on launch then there would be none to sell after about 5 minutes. $649 would be the right price for launch but I will still buy it at $699. You would never buy one, right? See, I have a P4 I can sell at about $400 so 3 hundred is no biggie for me given the larger battery and aluminum back in green.
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iPhone? I thought you had the OnePlus 8. lol But $599 will be the price if you wait until BF and then maybe even less. If they put this out at $599 on launch then there would be none to sell after about 5 minutes. $649 would be the right price for launch but I will still buy it at $699. You would never buy one, right? See, I have a P4 I can sell at about $400 so 3 hundred is no biggie for me given the larger battery and aluminum back in green.
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Uh I have several phones [emoji23]
That’s not the point, the launch price should be $599 considering the specs. Did you really say “If they put this out at $599on launch then there would be none to sell after about 5 minutes”??? That’s the point, to sell not just to keep it on shelves [emoji1751]
After Black Friday it goes back to $699 which isn’t priced right when you look at the competition. That’s why the pixel 4 failed miserably, because it wasn’t priced properly and the competition offered better at less.
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Uh I have several phones [emoji23]
That’s not the point, the launch price should be $599 considering the specs. Did you really say “If they put this out at $599on launch then there would be none to sell after about 5 minutes”??? That’s the point, to sell not just to keep it on shelves [emoji1751]
After Black Friday it goes back to $699 which isn’t priced right when you look at the competition. That’s why the pixel 4 failed miserably, because it wasn’t priced properly and the competition offered better at less.
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Agreed, that is the point. But their people never called my people for this advice and so here we are. Thing is I'd by two today if they come out at $599 and treat the Mrs. and sell her aging P3. For $699 I can't justify it and neither will she.
Depending on where you are located you could get an awesome freebie. I have seen 6 months of Netflix for Canada. Bose QC II for France I think. Maybe the price includes a freebie.
Well 657,-€ in Germany... Nope for now
Edit: just seen, this is a temporary price. Let's check in a few days
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I've made worse decisions with $700. I'm not sweating my purchase.
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I've made worse decisions with $700. I'm not sweating my purchase.
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Same here! I have saved so much money during the pandemic by not going to the local brewery, let alone happy hours once a week, that I could probably buy two of them and still be ahead. So expected delivery is November 3rd. I just need to keep my P4 pristine and get around $350 - $400 on Swappa. The P4 trade-in at $240 was a joke.
It looks really good, but without a 90hz or higher screen, it's difficult for me to justify.
I am curious if we can trick Google to recognize a 5a as a 4a 5G, for some free "High quality backup" in Google Photos - as there aren't many differences between the two devices. Same silicon, same RAM and storage configuration, almost the same screen size.
I pre-ordered one. I got talked into it while asking about security/software updates on a budget phone forum here. It is more than I expected to spend, but people made me realize I don't know how to quantify the extra costs/risks of other manufacturers adding their own software on top of the android part that Google is patching.
I would be happy to pay less and reduce the specs further in some ways, but I am thinking about it as cost per year of software support, so I won't consider the older models that already have 1 or more years of their software life spent on the shelf... I'd probably be satisfied if it had 4GB RAM, 64GB flash, and LCD instead of OLED but with the same software. I am interested to see how the 5G works out w/ T-Mobile. (Edit: for reference, my current phone is a Moto G7 Play with 2GB RAM, 32GB flash, and a 720 pix wide screen. It is usable for me, but definitely shows its limits...)
Our last Google phone was a Nexus 5X. We went on a budget quest after that, thinking pixels were too expensive. We thought Moto was a decent value for a while, but I've been growing unhappy with their worsening software support. I.e. only 2 years and not even monthly on the budget models.
Yep, preordered mine.
No, I ordered the Galaxy S20 Plus from Google Fi for $50 less than the Pixel 5a. I am not a Samsung fan, but that's too much phone to pass up for $399.
Undecided. Would like the larger screen. If TWRP was an easy install (compared to 4a), would jump on it. Will probably wait another year (or two).
Personally, I will not. But I hope that people will be okay with the stuff that we see. It’s a lot of aspects that have been made with the stuff that we can talk about. It’s really cool that there have been solid phones over the years and I love that the Pixel continues to be a strong Android phone.
I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.
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I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.
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If I'm not mistaken the 4a5g as well as the 5 all have the same camera setup and all experience the same overheating issue. Therefore, if this is true and Google has not "yet" done anything to resolve the issue then either they are unwilling to fix the problem, or they are unable to do so. I'm still getting one because I rarely even use the camera on any phone.
I did pre order the Pixel 5a for myself, will get rid of my iPhone 12 Pro Max then. Last Pixel I used and still have as a secondary home device is the Pixel 4 XL, which I loved, except for the absolute crap battery life, that thing blew for battery stamina, other than that running Android 12 beta 4 on it and it's smooth as hot butter.
If the Pixel 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4 XL, I'm fine with that, but I really need great battery life for my job out in the field a lot and on the go, don't have time to charge often. And I thought last years Pixel 5 was a bit too small, and I find my 12 Pro Max a bit too large, so an in-between phone size is exactly what I want, and good battery life. 6" display too small, and 6.7"+ size too large.
Like I said if the 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4XL, then I'm all good.
And man I can't wait to be rid of iOS, just such a frustrating OS and screwy way it works and Apple Maps blows.
Pre-ordered one from Google Fi for the wife. $15/month for 2 years including insurance on their subscription plan. She doesn't want to give up her Nexus 6P so I may change over to it from my Pixel 3XL.
I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.
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I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.
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I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?
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I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?
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There in lays the trick. Apparently Google is clamping down on such shenanigans. Currently it appears my option is to have a friend who lives in Japan, order a US version, ship it there and pay import charges, then have him ship to me. I'm guessing but that'll put the cost of 5a into the 6/pro price range... And if that's the case, I'd be better off getting that directly from Google.
I'm the meantime, I'll hold onto my $'s and see what's what with the 6 and 6Pro and decide then. After all it's not like my 4a isn't doing the job
I pre-ordered. I have been holding out on replacing my 2 XL. No newer features, even flagship, were that appealing and I held out as long as I could since I cracked the screen on the 2 XL. All I need is stock android updates and long battery time. I don't play games, so not terribly concerned with the 60hz.
I preordered one as well. My first pure google phone. Can't wait to give it a try.
Pre-ordered mine along with the pixel a buds. Definitely looking forward to it. I know ill likely get one of the 6's as well lol.
I received notice that mine shipped today. It's supposed to be here Friday EOD.
If it ever launches in India, I am getting 2.
Oh well, started the RMA for mine this morning. Freezes up too often when streaming YouTube videos. Hesitates too much when scrolling through web pages. Gets hot using camera. Still on June 5th patch???? Hate the Pixel launcher. Had to put Nova on it! Just cannot compete with my OnePlus 8T. Say what you will about the evolution of OnePlus...but my last 3 phones from them have all been great! Still hard to beat for the $$$$$ I highly doubt that I will ever buy another Pixel. $35.00 restocking fee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMH
Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7, which seems to be an excellent smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
Last year I preordered a Pixel 6. I was so hyped. New design, new SoC, stock Android, great camera. And then I got the device and there was problems with the screen, I had the accessibility service freeze bug and Google did nothing to fix it for months. I sent the device to RMA 2 times. Updates were delayed, more bugs came. It was a mess so I sold the device and made financial loss.
I dislike the fact that they made the display for the Pixel 7 smaller than the one of the Pixel 6, and I dislike curved edges on the pro version. Curved display edges are a stupid useless feature - it's no good for haptics and IMO it's marketing crap plus good screen protectors are either hard to find or expensive for them.
So maybe I'm gonna buy a Pixel 7. Maybe not. Right now I got a Realme GT 2 Pro and it's like the OnePlus device I always wanted, but the camera is not that good and it's missing the alert slider. BBK Electronics is not really cool and what they done to OnePlus and Oxygen OS is bad. Having a Pixel with Vanilla Android again would be nice. And the cameras are always very good on Pixels. I love that.
Let's see how much they will cost here in Germany. Maybe I'll gift one to myself for christmas. But I'll wait... not gonna preorder again. I've learned.
The "expected" differences/upgrades on the 7 PRO are not awe inspiring to me IMO (since the 6 PRO received a lot of upgrades from previous Pixels) coupled with the idea of spending $900 for minimal, or unimportant to me upgrades just doesn't make sense for my needs.
I'll wait for the 8 Pro
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Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7, which seems to be an excellent smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
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They always seem to be an excellent smartphone on paper but disappointing in reality.
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They always seem to be an excellent smartphone on paper but disappointing in reality.
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I had a Pixel 2XL and until then I never kept a device as long as I kept that one. It was great (and I used to build a ROM for it / not cooking tho, just building).
I'm planning to get the Pixel 7 and I think this could be a great phone and a competition to iPhone 14 series!
Not at that size. Way too big for me. I learned after I got the P6 that I'd never buy anything larger than my 6a. 7a is a distinct possibility though.
I'm in a watch and wait attitude for now....
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I'm planning to get the Pixel 7 and I think this could be a great phone and a competition to iPhone 14 series!
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It might come within striking distance of the 14 and 14 Plus with their older SoCs (keeping in mind the Tensor G2 leaked performance puts it between a Snapdragon 870 and 888, nowhere near current flagship performance and current flagships can't even match the A15) but there is no chance it can come even remotely close to the Pros except in camera and charging speed (if Google chooses to increase it, I am betting it's the same 21~23W as last year). If Apple had gone to USB-C and introduced true fast charging this year I would have switched to the 14 Pro Max because I'm so tired of the random lags, overheating, battery drain, and gaming performance issues my OnePlus 9 has while my 2 year old 12 Pro Max still runs everything I have tried effortlessly. Like it's always funny watching these "speed test" videos that just test app launching speed and nothing else. Apple's optimization is next level.
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Yeah, and it feels like the software giant is least interested in their own software.
I have a Pixel 7 in my plans. I currently have Oneplus 6t for 4 years. I wanted a new Oneplus but they are big. I'm waiting for the premiere.
I have a Pixel 6 and happy with it, but miss the telephoto capability. But my 6 is only a year old, so unlikely to rush - maybe wait for a deal and see how stable folk report it to be. Seems silly to invest in a 6 Pro, when a 7 Pro would get me an extra year's updates and by the sounds of it a slightly stronger telephoto capability.... Camera quality/capability is key for me.
No, unless they stop using samsung-made tensor chips.
Tensor is fine. The long term software support is also fine.
What maynot be fine is a no so Pro SoC in the long run.
- Just my thought.
I am happy with my P6.
5G data and up to date software for buying the P6. I do not really see anything that tickles me for me to get the P7.
It's time for me to upgrade. My Pixel 3 XL is starting to have issues with the front camera, and the power button. It still runs great, but I don't want to chance some showstopper stopping me from using it soon, so I ordered a Pixel 7 yesterday. Should be a nice upgrade.
My P5 is wonderful.
But I am pre-, ordering the P7!
It just looks terrific. I only wish hazel/gold was available in P7. But I'll settle for either Snow or lemongrass. Once I decide I'll order.
I'm ready for the Pixel 7 Pro, should be a decent upgrade over my 3 and 4 XL's. I know I"m going to miss some of the features that I've grown accustomed to over the last few years (Squeeze and Face Unlock) mostly.
I'm sure I will adapt, though
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I'm ready for the Pixel 7 Pro, should be a decent upgrade over my 3 and 4 XL's. I know I"m going to miss some of the features that I've grown accustomed to over the last few years (Squeeze and Face Unlock) mostly.
I'm sure I will adapt, though
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The Pixel 7 and 7pro both have face unlock
I believe it's only for phone unlock not biometric auth for apps though.