Does anyone know of a USB cable that it capable of supporting AA and has USB-C on one end (for device) and double 3.1 on the other end (to vehicle)?
I have 2 USB ports in my vehicle. The input port for AA does not charge the phone sufficiently when is running and the other port does fast charging but doesn't allow AA to run.
Thanks very much!
Welcome to the never ending problem! No, it is not possible to do what you want to do, that is, to be connected to AA and to fast charge your phone from an other usb port or car charger. I tried everything, including powered usb hubs, nothing works, unfortunately.
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Do you have wireless charging on the phone? Might be able to add a wireless pad in the car.
Note10.1Dude said:
Do you have wireless charging on the phone? Might be able to add a wireless pad in the car.
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Thought about that but I'm worried about overheating. I guess I might need to try it and find out?
Do not be worried of overheating, if the phone is connected to a usb cable and port and it detects charging, it will automatically disable the wireless charging.
The only way is to replace, if possible, car's charging circuit with a fast charging one.
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Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere; I couldn't find anything.
I'm looking into getting some spare chargers for my Tilt. I read at Pocket PC Techs that the device has a distinct "fast charge" mode, that uses a special pinout. Is this true?
If so, does the charger that comes with the Tilt use this fast charge mode? It seems to be just a standard mini-USB charger (data sheet here).
The link to Pocket PC Techs is actually to an adapter that they sell that is suppose to give you a fast charge with any USB charger. I'm wondering under what circumstances I'd have to use this.
Anyone know what the fast charge pinout is, and which third-party chargers use it?
Thanks.
ISTR reading something about pins 4 & 5 being tied together on some chargers -- should be very easy to test this.
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
The USB charging is done with different connections and at a different mA rating. The mains charger is 1000mA and is what I would call the normal charging system (but what the site you show, refers to as fast charge - but only by comparison to USB charging) This is just about standard for many sync/charge PDAs and not a special feature of the Kaiser.
Mike
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
jallenclark said:
I do notice a huge difference in speed comparing my old razor usb power adapter vs usb cable into my computer vs tilt power adapater so it prolly makes sense
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Yep, the Razor adapter only delivers 500mA not 1000mA
Mike
Plus the razor charger does not have the pins 4-5 shorted, this is a HTC tweak that lets the phone know that it's on a charger vs std. USB power and it may in fact charge at a higher rate upon detecting this. I just know that my Hermes occasionally did strange things like turn off BT radio and other odd things when connecting/disconnecting from different chargers. Kaiser seems better at this.
For a couple of weeks now, I have been charging my Kaiser at work by using the adapter that came with my Audiovox SMT5600. It's been working fine. I cannot however determine if this charges any faster or slower than the Kaiser's adapter.
Slow Charging
So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
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are there any issues iwth battery drain or lif when charging with the USB cable connected to a computer?
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g
Is there a specific USB charger.
The pin out is the same as the Hermes?
mikechannon said:
I have not tested this but I suspect the pin out is the same as the Hermes:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config....
Mike
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Is that tested by anybody?
Frans. said:
Is that tested by anybody?
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I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
HTC has developed a range of accessories that are compatible across all HTC devices for consumer's ease of use. These include the BH M200 (Bluetooth headset), HS U110 (3.5 mm audio adapter and headset), and the HS S200 (HTC standard stereo wired headset) to enable effective communications on the move.
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If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
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I wouldn't think it would need to be tested. As per this page:
If the audio adapter and hard wired headset are compatible across all HTC devices (per HTC themselves), then that confirms that the pinout of the audio side is the same. And it's been mentioned earlier that the data side follows the mini-usb standard, which I can confirm: I'm using the usb cable from my camera to connect my Kaiser to my PC at home, while I use the supplied cable to connect it to my work PC.
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I would like to use my old Himalaya MDA II Hands Free DSP Car Kit for my new Kaiser (as that I only have to buy a passive holder).
I tried to find a ExtUSB 11-lead Pre-wired Connector Plug ....but it is impossible..any suggestions?
It should be something like this one http://www.gomadic.com/comip10leadp.html
Sorry, can't help you there.
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So that would explain when I use GPS in the car with my old RAZR charger why the battery still drains. Darn, looks like I'll have to buy a new car charger.
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I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
coolVariable said:
I am experiencing a similar issue with an USB/car adapter and the USB cable that came with the Tilt.
Ran Google Maps yesterday with GPS on and when I got home my phone was almost empty. It was charging the whole time in the car though.
Does this mean I should look for another USB cable that is shorting those pins?
What about these adapters that plug into the phone and allow you to connect a USB cable for charging and a 3.5mm audio plug?
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-3in1-USB-3-...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Mmm, that is a unique piece!! But the cable seems somewhat short.
I think at the end..I am going to combine following pieces to make the final connection to my old handsfree carkit.. (I hate soldering)
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b139762.jpg
http://www.allekabels.nl/Kroonsteentjes/35/3249/Kroonsteen.html
http://www.allekabels.nl/Monitor-Kabels/19/1342/Monitor-Kabel.html
Any problems with me using my old Razr car charger on my Kaiser? Typically I charge mine every night with the standard charger but in case of emergency I'd like to use my Razr car charger
Thanks
In answer to the original question, yes, pins 4 & 5 are shorted on the OEM charger that ships with the Tilts, thus enabling it to fast-charge the phone at currents greater than 500ma.
Hopefully this helps,
--W5i2
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knew of a USB Y cable (with two male usb plugs converging into one female usb port) that could allow quick charge and data transfer so it could be used with Android auto? Both male usb plugs would need to be able to transfer data into the female usb port in order for this to work.
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I guess this wouldn't work and might also damage the head unit, but I'm no engineer.
If I were adventurous enough to risk frying my head unit and/or phone, I would follow this
http://www.instructables.com/id/Add...-hub/step3/Cut-the-VCC-wire-of-the-USB-cable/
and connect the output of the quick charge car adapter instead of the external charger.
Then would cut the Vcc wire directed to the head unit.
I don't know if the main hub cable (the one which normally goes to the PC) has to go to the phone or the head unit: who's the host in Android Auto? I'm inclined to think it's the head unit, since the phone connects in mtp mode. So my first guess is main hub cable to head unit, quick charge adapter connected like in the article, then big usb to micro usb cable to phone.
Maybe voltage higher than 5V would fry the hub, and maybe Android Auto connection is so picky (and it's picky, you know) that the hub circuitry wouldn't allow it. Who knows.
Again I'm no engineer and I'm scared to try
But I would buy a safe device tested for this use case, 10/10 :laugh:
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Use a usb y, but don't short the data pins to send it to high charge/current mode. You won't necessarily hurt the hu but you'll never connect to AA, the phone must detect the shorted pins to enter high charge mode. Which means the phone can't talk on the data wires. I find a 2a charger running at 1a plus the hu's usb keeps just ahead of the power usage.
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glowsti047 said:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knew of a USB Y cable (with two male usb plugs converging into one female usb port) that could allow quick charge and data transfer so it could be used with Android auto? Both male usb plugs would need to be able to transfer data into the female usb port in order for this to work.
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Unfortunately, you can't have quick charge (2.0) and data transfer at the same time (at least with my Galaxy note 4). On a standard USB cable, you have 4 wires, two for data, two for power. On my GN4, the data pair communicate with the quick charger (I'm not sure exactly what the communication is, I remember reading somewhere it used the data pairs to communicate voltage, etc...).
Now, what I did do, was make my own data cable using 2 male type A adapters and connecting it all up to a a male microUSB end(Data pair is only connected to 1 of the type A male ends, I can't remember if I wired up the power in parallel). My AA head unit puts out less amps than my car charger, so even though I'm not getting quick charge speeds, I'm getting a bit more amps to charge with. So, one male end goes to my charger, one end goes to my head unit. I've been using it like this for over a year with no issues.
How much better is it than charging while connected to the AA head unit? Not sure. I'd rather have more amps than not enough.
Just buy a y. Cheaper and safer than self making.
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Just buy a y. Cheaper and safer than self making.
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Do you have a link? Can't seem to find anything that I think would work.
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Something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Enhancer-Female-Data-Charge-Charge-Extension/dp/B00NIGO4NM
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Hi,
I want to clarify some aspects:
1) Qualcomm's Quick Charge doesn't work when the USB is in use for data.
2) Quick Charge requires a certified adapter (as it's an active function).
3) USB power can charge the device, however very slow... in fact with AA the device consumes battery when running.
So, my question is:
- Increasing the USB power current with an Y cable the device can be charged more quickly?
- And if this is true: the Y cable needs to block the current from the dta USB port of the car?
I like to comment these topics.
Any one using Android auto on this phone? which cable are you suing.
I am using a USB to C converting charger right now, but when I use it, phone discharges. may be the power is not enough to charge the phone.
Any special cable or setup needed?
please suggest
atrix4nag said:
Any one using Android auto on this phone? which cable are you suing.
I am using a USB to C converting charger right now, but when I use it, phone discharges. may be the power is not enough to charge the phone.
Any special cable or setup needed?
please suggest
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As I assume you are talking about Android Auto Google appwitch doesn't need any cable bocouse it connects wirelessly with Car with is capable of Media Interface and Android/iPhone plugin (cars from 2016 - few BMW, Bentley, Audi -no Mercedes)
JaCh0o said:
As I assume you are talking about Android Auto Google appwitch doesn't need any cable bocouse it connects wirelessly with Car with is capable of Media Interface and Android/iPhone plugin (cars from 2016 - few BMW, Bentley, Audi -no Mercedes)
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Android auto app needs wire connectivity, as far as i know. Can you tell me how can i connect wireless?
Tia
atrix4nag said:
Android auto app needs wire connectivity, as far as i know. Can you tell me how can i connect wireless?
Tia
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About wich car we are talking to be exact?
Here some info
https://www.android.com/auto/audi/
Wysłane z mojego Nexus 5X przy użyciu Tapatalka
JaCh0o said:
About wich car we are talking to be exact?
Here some info
https://www.android.com/auto/audi/
Wysłane z mojego Nexus 5X przy użyciu Tapatalka
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Mine is Hyundai Santa Fe. in the link, there is no information about how to connect wirelessly.
JaCh0o said:
As I assume you are talking about Android Auto Google appwitch doesn't need any cable bocouse it connects wirelessly with Car with is capable of Media Interface and Android/iPhone plugin (cars from 2016 - few BMW, Bentley, Audi -no Mercedes)
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There is no wireless option for android auto. You need to use a cable to connect to your head unit.. At least till date
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atrix4nag said:
Any one using Android auto on this phone? which cable are you suing.
I am using a USB to C converting charger right now, but when I use it, phone discharges. may be the power is not enough to charge the phone.
Any special cable or setup needed?
please suggest
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Problem is the port that comes with your car doesn't support quick charge as it is a standard 1.5Amp port and not a type-c. Your best bet would be to get a USB type c - usb 3.0 cable from Anker or any other seller but be sure it meets usb type c specs. If you are buying on amazon make sure you read the reviews from Benson Leung who is an engineer from google.
I have been using anker cable and its working fine.. Although it wont charge much when using navigation but atleast it wont discharge
sravanz said:
There is no wireless option for android auto. You need to use a cable to connect to your head unit.. At least till date
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Problem is the port that comes with your car doesn't support quick charge as it is a standard 1.5Amp port and not a type-c. Your best bet would be to get a USB type c - usb 3.0 cable from Anker or any other seller but be sure it meets usb type c specs. If you are buying on amazon make sure you read the reviews from Benson Leung who is an engineer from google.
I have been using anker cable and its working fine.. Although it wont charge much when using navigation but atleast it wont discharge
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I have USB type c to USB 3 cable, when I connect the cable directly to the car and use navigation it works fine, but when I connect through android auto, it wont charge at all. i am fine if it wont discharge. so your cable will not discharge using android auto?
Do you think this will be useful?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NIGO4NM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1K0O9XEM4PWVI
since my phone didnt come with the type c adapter, nor the usb a to c, i had to make something.
i went out and bought a usb type c to type a female (it was made for some apple laptop), then cut up two usb type a male cables and wired them together color to color. i plug one end to the usb type c adapter, and the other end to my android auto unit and it works fine!
i have noticed some vehicle that come with android auto only throw a 1.0amp through the usb port, while aftermarket radios (pioneer, kenwood, etc) come with 1.5 or even 2.0 amp usb ports.
my phone will not charge on the 1.0 output that the stock vehicles have, and if im using nav i will definitely see a drop in battery.
Hi all,
I have an XZ1 compact (Model G8441 non-root) that I'm very happy with, but I can't get it to charge wirelessly.
I bought an adapter with a USB-C plug and it worked to charge the phone at first, but it suddenly stopped working after a few charges.
I figured I had a fault with either the wireless receiver that plugs into the phone or the charger pad.
I tested the receiver via a micro-USB adapter on my old Z5 compact and it charges fine. I also bought another charger pad, and it also won't work on this phone.
When the phone is on the charger pad, the indicator on the pad recognises that something is there and goes from green to blinking red as if charging, but nothing happens on the phone.
If the phone is completely switched off, all I get is a blinking green LED on the phone.
I've tried it with the case on and off.
There have been three updates since I got the phone a few weeks ago. Is it possible that an Oreo software update has broken the low power charging somehow?
Obviously I've rebooted the phone, but I haven't done a factory reset.
I'd appreciate any help you could offer.
You could indeed try downgrading the phone to determine if it's a firmware/software issue or a hardware issue.
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I have an XZ1 compact (Model G8441 non-root) that I'm very happy with, but I can't get it to charge wirelessly.
I bought an adapter with a USB-C plug and it worked to charge the phone at first, but it suddenly stopped working after a few charges.
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I'm confused. The XZ1 Compact doesn't have wireless charging. What did you buy to wirelessly charge it? Something that plugs into the USB port and then sits on a wireless charger?
Averix said:
I'm confused. The XZ1 Compact doesn't have wireless charging. What did you buy to wirelessly charge it? Something that plugs into the USB port and then sits on a wireless charger?
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Yes, I bought a wireless adapter with a USB-C plug that connects to the phone & lays against the back of the phone inside the case. You then place it on a wireless charging pad.
I've done the same thing with several other phones & never had a problem.
Didn't see it explicitly mentioned, did you try using a different USB-C adapter cable? Since the micro USB cable works, we can safely assume the pad's fine. But I didn't see you cross test another type c cable.
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Hi all,
I managed to fix the problem by replacing the QI receiver attached to the phone with a new one.
Strange that the old one worked if I connected it to a different phone via an adapter (and that it worked to begin with on my phone).
It must have had a problem where it couldn't output enough voltage to charge my new phone, but had enough to charge the old one.
Thanks for your help.
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Didn't see it explicitly mentioned, did you try using a different USB-C adapter cable? Since the micro USB cable works, we can safely assume the pad's fine. But I didn't see you cross test another type c cable.
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What I had changed was the charger pad. I tried two different ones, a USB-C powered one and a micro USB powered one. Neither worked.
I have a new QI receiver on order.
I have a Beklin Wireless Charging Pad 10W and it works fine with my XZ2. However sometime I need to share my mobile network to the laptop, and every time when I plug the USB cable it will automatically change to get charge by USB.
Of cause I can keep the wireless charging by using the hotspot feature, but I find that hotspot + wireless charging + once opening some other apps it will make the phone overheat and I often get the overheat message. Therefore I am curious, is it possible to keep charging by Wireless Pad and share the mobile network with USB cable?
Thank you!