I have a second partition on my SD card and have used Link2SD to move most apps to it. Still I'm running very low on internal space. Some apps hang on updating, is it because the update must be installed to the internal storage first? Any idea how to find out what's taking up all the space? I ran CCleaner and it said my hidden cache is almost 2 GB. What's a hidden cache?
Best way would be to look through your files in a file manager, and checking under "Storage" in settings to see what's taking up space. Some apps may not be linking properly so it's worth checking that too
Did you try clearing your app cache? It's possible that even though your apps are installed on a different partition they are still storing cached files on your primary.
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I just installed apps2sd on a freshly wiped system. I'm pretty sure mine's working and tested it by installing Google Earth.
It did subtract around 20mb from the SD card secondary.
But it also subtracted it on the phones internal storage of around 20plus mb.
I rebooted to be sure, but it's still missing 20mb.
Is it normal that values are subtracted on both storage?
It's not normal as far as I know. It would defeat the purpose of Apps2SD.
Urgh. What have I done wrong?
I partitioned the SD until ext4 using Amon_RA 1.7
I wiped to factory settings and ext using Amon_RA 1.7
I flashed CM 5.0.6
then I wiped again to factory settings.
maybe I'm wrong, but what I have heard is that the app stores on SD card but cache of the app is stored on internal memory. what you are experiencing also happens to me when I install any app.
sstang2006: You're right. The data of the app is still store in internal memory from what I know .
Yup...the main data of the app is still stored on internal memory. Only the apk file and some other stuff is stored on the SD.
did you apply the app2sd?
setting > application > apply the app2sd
Its normal. Apps are installed on the SD card, but program DATA is still stored in the internal memory. i.e. apps2sd is literally "apps to sd card"
see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646579
Yes Apps2SD is checked. Oh well, I guess Google Earth naturally takes a lot of the internal storage.
I just thought I would never have a problem with the internal storage decreasing in free space.
Thanks for the responses guys!
use CacheMate and clear your Cache....you'll get some internal memory back.... I use it only after using the market to dl/install apps as i've been told a lot of "data" can be used and never "cleared" when dl/installing from market....Give it a try wth right?
chobie said:
Yes Apps2SD is checked. Oh well, I guess Google Earth naturally takes a lot of the internal storage.
I just thought I would never have a problem with the internal storage decreasing in free space.
Thanks for the responses guys!
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Google Earth has a library file that is 17MB that is installed at /data/data/com.google.earth.
Unable to install an app because of not enough memory. When I started to correct the problem (clearing caches, moving to SD card etc.) I realized I have only 196MB of internal memory. Not the 512MB the phone supposedly contains. A third party file manager confirms this. This is storage memory and not Rom. I am using about 131MB and have about 65MB free. where is the rest of my memory and how can I access it or clear it?
You can't. 512MB is total memory your phone has, out of it there's 200MB reserved for DATA partition, this is what you have. The other space is divided between other partitions - SYSTEM (holding your firmware), RADIO, etc. Nothing is missing, this is how it works.
Can this memory be expanded? I bookmarked one webpage (my daughters school lunch menu) and it took up 80MB. I couldn't even receive a text until I cleared it.
No, it can't be expanded - but the apps from it can be moved to SD by various methods, both Froyo official method and Apps2SD+, which leaves all of this partition for application data only. The effect is the same - lots of free internal storage.
So I recently upgraded from Kang-o-rama beta to 1.2 Final SP2. While doing so I decided to wipe my data to get a clean start. Well before the wipe I had DT Apps2SD running perfectly. I had much of my 512mb ext partition filled with apps and only a very small fraction of my internal storage was used. I also still had Dalvik cache and cache on internal memory.
Now I have a new updated ROM with a clean slate (data and dalvik cache wiped). I got Apps2SD all set up and it seems as though it's working however it is still using quite a bit of internal memory. Now, I understand that app data and the symbolic links will still be on internal storage but the issue is that the space taken up on the ext partition and internal memory is just about the same ~70mb. I know the app data will not take up that much space. As before I updated and wiped my phone, the internal memory had only a fraction of it used when compared to the ext partition.
Any ideas as to what may be going on?
did you flash a2sd again? I'm not 100% sure but I think you have to flash that as well after the rom thanks to a user on here I got it somewhere in the dt thread, they shared the script where you don't have to flash it anymore after flashing a new rom so if you don't have that I think the problem may be that you might have to flash it again. Also check if your apps are going to your sd card and not your internal storage
If I am not mistaken, Kang-o-Rama is set up to run and configure apps2sd on first boot with an installer flag which is exactly what I did. Besides that I have already checked that Apps2sd is running through terminal commands as well run the reinstall command.
So apps are indeed being installed on the ext partition. My issue is that something is taking up a bunch of space in my internal storage, which naturally I thought was the apps.
Do I just have a really large Dalvik cache or something along those lines that could take up so much memory?
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how many apps do you have installed? I can't say I'm 100% sure but it's possible that it's your dalvik. my damn dalvik cache is that big, i have no internal memory left about 20 mb ish i have so many apps installed so i just had to move dalvik over to sd as well. I have maybe a bit more than a hundred apps and some are big
edit: my ext partition is 512mb if it helps half of it is full with my apps
i think data apps is still being stored in the internal storage (like darktremor a2sd) unless its also being moved by default on kang-o-rama which i doubt but you can also move it to sd card though with minimum of class4 sd card requirement so you wont have speed issues. look it up you can do it through terminal emulator
My guess is that before you had also run 'a2sd cachesd' at some point. This moves all your dalvik cache over to the ext partition and just leaves the app data on internal memory.
Running this will clear up a substantial amount of internal space.
what would cause this odd error when i still have so much free?
found this answer on an other droid forum is it true?
"There is a bug that causes this error, but since 3 big companies are involved, none of them are going to fix it any time soon. Basically, app space is limited to some arbitrary amount and is not equal to the space available on your phone."
I suspect you may be low in system memory. Scroll down to the very bottom of the SD card & phone storage settings. How much available System memory do you have?
system memory is alway around 100Mb even with the space notification.
when I uninstall enough apps it does go away.
stopping open apps or services does not help.
You may want to reset your device. I had a similar problem once with my Atrix. 100mb is a low amount of system memory. I have over 400mb still available on my Thrill.
I have over 650mb left in system memory and its says I have insufficient space whenever I try to download any game around 40mb. I cleared the cache and it worked for one game.
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think i got it...
using ES task manager
memory T:442MB A:96MB =ram?
internal storage T:.98GB A:117MB =system nand or partition of internal sd?
sd card T:5.57GB A:3.92GB =internal sd card?
I have a 32GB external sd card.
I thought "system memory" under "SD card & phone storage settings" was RAM
but is seems to be what "ES task manager" reports as "internal storage"
why the hell is the android set up this way?
seems so ass backwards,
/ = system memory (root dir? is this a partition or seperate physical memory from the internal sd)
/sdcard/ = internal sd
/sdcard/_ExternalSD = external sdcard
What is being referred to as internal storage (or system memory) is where the apps are installed by default. You could try moving some apps to SD and it should help. However, I had a problem like this with my Atrix and I never could figure out what was using all the space, so I just did a factory reset. Of course, I used Titanium Backup first.
I've noticed that the thrill thinks the 4gb internal is an SD card and the actual SD card is labeled as "External" when you explore the files. I was thinking of doing a factory reset so I moved all my apps to SD, when I looked in file manager at my SD there was nothing there. I found them all in a folder called "SDCard" on my internal memory. This may have something to do with your issue.
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I've noticed that the thrill thinks the 4gb internal is an SD card and the actual SD card is labeled as "External" when you explore the files. I was thinking of doing a factory reset so I moved all my apps to SD, when I looked in file manager at my SD there was nothing there. I found them all in a folder called "SDCard" on my internal memory. This may have something to do with your issue.
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You have 3 types of memory in the phone. There's your external SD (labeled as _External SD), Internal Phone Memory (internal SD), and System Memory (where by default apps are stored). You can move your apps to the internal SD if you desire and that's why it's showing a folder there with the apps in it.
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You have 3 types of memory in the phone. There's your external SD (labeled as _External SD), Internal Phone Memory (internal SD), and System Memory (where by default apps are stored). You can move your apps to the internal SD if you desire and that's why it's showing a folder there with the apps in it.
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So what good does it do to put Apps on the internal SD?
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So what good does it do to put Apps on the internal SD?
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So that it doesn't take up your system memory. If your system memory gets low, it won't let you install additional apps and may also slow down your phone.
Some people are saying that it is reporting wrong? No there actually is an SD card inside the phone and the one outside under the back plate.
To keep things straight:
System= Actual memory on the phone where apps are installed by default, moving to SD and uninstalling apps can create more space.
Internal= SDcard inside the phone where Apps are moved to when choosing move to SD also Alps will store data here and most downloads go here by default
External= The SDcard under backplate which you can access and change. A lot of apps will put backups here and if you choose SD storage in camera where your pics and vids will be. Usually this is set aside for actual personal storage of media and what not.
^ Is there a way to make the external SD card the default data storage? After installing some Gameloft games, my internal storage is already full (5.6 GBs is pathetic LG) but I still still have 2 more games (Dungeon Defenders and Spectral Souls) I want to install which take up about 2GB.
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^ Is there a way to make the external SD card the default data storage? After installing some Gameloft games, my internal storage is already full (5.6 GBs is pathetic LG) but I still still have 2 more games (Dungeon Defenders and Spectral Souls) I want to install which take up about 2GB.
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Not that I'm aware.
Urabewe said:
Some people are saying that it is reporting wrong? No there actually is an SD card inside the phone and the one outside under the back plate.
To keep things straight:
System= Actual memory on the phone where apps are installed by default, moving to SD and uninstalling apps can create more space.
Internal= SDcard inside the phone where Apps are moved to when choosing move to SD also Alps will store data here and most downloads go here by default
External= The SDcard under backplate which you can access and change. A lot of apps will put backups here and if you choose SD storage in camera where your pics and vids will be. Usually this is set aside for actual personal storage of media and what not.
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Close. System is where the OS and the system apps, the ones that come preinstalled are stored. The data partition is where market apps are stored. Installing apps from the market has no effect on the system partition. System apps cannot be moved to the sdcard, internal or otherwise. Its the apps on the /data partition that can be moves to the sdcard/internal storage.
Here's the breakdown:
System=619Mb (OS+system apps)
Internal (data)=1Gb (downloaded apps)
Internal SD=6gb (storage,a2sd)
External SD=8Gb (with included card).
LG claims 8gb internal space. All the above adds up to a little over 7.6gb. Leaving 60mb which is most likely the Cache partition.
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I am struggling to find what is taking up all the space on the device (stock ROM, not rooted), I moved all movable apps and data to external sd (I clear the cache regularly but most of it gallery thumbnais ,just under 1gb and I wiped the cache in recovery mode) . In file browser internal sd including hidden files and folders only amounts to 2 GB. So I have to assume some hidden system partition is taking up another 62 GB?
Is there a way to fixx it without wiping the system?