Hey guys. I have been coming to these forums for a bit over a year now just reading posts and decided to make an account to get help with a problem I am having. I got a Kindle Fire almost a year ago and I rooted it successfully as soon as I got it. I installed FFF and TWRP to it and an ICS version loaded to it. However recently I tried to update the KF to the Jellybean version as well as update my TWRP version. Well, long story short, I got it stuck in the FFF fastboot.
Normally this wouldn't be a problem since I could just use the KFU to set the bboot back to normal, however the Kindle is also listed as an Unknown Device in my device manager and it says all the drivers are up to date. I tried manually overriding this by going into the device manager -> updating driver software -> and selecting from a list on my pc, however I either get an error saying there is no compatible file (which it is the sdk google usb driver downloaded for this exact reason so I know it should work) or I am getting the message saying windows thinks my driver is already up to date. I can't use the command prompt or adb to even locate the device. I am getting frustrated and need help. Thanks!
Ilumene said:
Hey guys. I have been coming to these forums for a bit over a year now just reading posts and decided to make an account to get help with a problem I am having. I got a Kindle Fire almost a year ago and I rooted it successfully as soon as I got it. I installed FFF and TWRP to it and an ICS version loaded to it. However recently I tried to update the KF to the Jellybean version as well as update my TWRP version. Well, long story short, I got it stuck in the FFF fastboot.
Normally this wouldn't be a problem since I could just use the KFU to set the bboot back to normal, however the Kindle is also listed as an Unknown Device in my device manager and it says all the drivers are up to date. I tried manually overriding this by going into the device manager -> updating driver software -> and selecting from a list on my pc, however I either get an error saying there is no compatible file (which it is the sdk google usb driver downloaded for this exact reason so I know it should work) or I am getting the message saying windows thinks my driver is already up to date. I can't use the command prompt or adb to even locate the device. I am getting frustrated and need help. Thanks!
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You say you have FFF installed, right? What version...better yet...what does the boot logo look like? A yellow triangle?
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You say you have FFF installed, right? What version...better yet...what does the boot logo look like? A yellow triangle?
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Yes, It had the yellow triangle with a flame in the middle...as to the version I don't know since I got a new pc since installation on the kindle and don't have those files available at the moment.
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You say you have FFF installed, right? What version...better yet...what does the boot logo look like? A yellow triangle?
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I just fixed it after many, many hours of work. I found a solution by bootloading a usb stick of ubuntu and using firekit to reset it into normal boot where KFU couldn't. That guy who wrote the program and article is a savior. Here's the link for anyone else who has this same problem and thanks for the help! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038
Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
Before you panic too much, you need give more information. What were you doing to "brick it"?
Have you tried a hard reset btw? (Hold the power button down for 30 seconds) then let go and turn on?
Worked for me before when I thought messed up
Kgyuszko
Sent from my KFTT using xda app-developers app
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Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
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You were doing something in fastboot mode, What was it? did you try to install the 2nd bootloader by hashcode or just restoring your device?
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Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
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I did something similar and have what i though 'bricked' the kindle. Have another good read through hashcode 2nd bootloader thread, others have has similar, and there are some instructions on how to resolve fastboot cable not recognised, and kndle is bricked. if not, go down the firstaide thread, that also deals with bricked kindles.
good luck
kgyuszko
have you successed to fix it ?
unluckily, I have the same problem.
factory cable is no use.
gogolovedell said:
have you successed to fix it ?
unluckily, I have the same problem.
factory cable is no use.
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I just had same problem. Factory cable no use. I intalled Kinology but thought to restore to a Kindle version. When the bootloader was being flashed, a black brick ... Anyone knows how to deal with this? I even opened the case and unplug battery.
qiudongxiao said:
I just had same problem. Factory cable no use. I intalled Kinology but thought to restore to a Kindle version. When the bootloader was being flashed, a black brick ... Anyone knows how to deal with this? I even opened the case and unplug battery.
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Your problem will be overcome if you follow here
Hi, I also ahve a black brick. It won't start after I used the wrong bootloader(the one for KFHD8 isntead if KFHD7)
I do have a factory cable but still nothing.
duncanidahoe said:
Can't get any computer or OS to recognize my kindle fire HD 7 even with the factory cable. Help!!!:crying:
I was in fastboot mode and did a reboot and when it booted back up it stuck on the start screen and won't let me do anything anymore. The fastboot cable I bought doesn't put it into fastboot mode and it is not recognized by any of my computers or OS. Tried everything but my mac so far. That includes XP, 7, 8 and Ubuntu.
I'll try a hard reset again. I've done that several times hoping that one time it would get recognized by the computer.
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gogolovedell said:
have you successed to fix it ?
unluckily, I have the same problem.
factory cable is no use.
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qiudongxiao said:
I just had same problem. Factory cable no use. I intalled Kinology but thought to restore to a Kindle version. When the bootloader was being flashed, a black brick ... Anyone knows how to deal with this? I even opened the case and unplug battery.
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kindleuser01 said:
Hi, I also ahve a black brick. It won't start after I used the wrong bootloader(the one for KFHD8 isntead if KFHD7)
I do have a factory cable but still nothing.
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You all have a paperweight on your hands. The factory cable was the very last resort. If you're in warranty, send it in for a replacement.
possible solution
searching i found this page where explain how to fix the hard brick, black screen no sing of life, cant post links so, search in google "new life for a dead Kindle fire hd, is in mascote..... can any expert try it and explain that to the rest of us,
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searching i found this page where explain how to fix the hard brick, black screen no sing of life, cant post links so, search in google "new life for a dead Kindle fire hd, is in mascote..... can any expert try it and explain that to the rest of us,
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A while back, I brought this question up to Pokey9000, the developer of FireFireFire and Firekit for the Original Kindle Fire. His exact response to me was...
When the OMAP USB boots, it first waits a bit to handshake with a host. If the handshake is successful, the host sends a small loader to the OMAP that then does some hardware init and handshakes again with the host to get a payload to shove into RAM. This loader is similar to x-loader in that it has to be small to fit in the SRAM of the OMAP, and does low level initialization like mux, clock, and memory setup. However it differs in that it replaces the MMC and FAT handling in x-loader with USB loading as there's not enough room for a generic x-loader that does MMC and USB.
On HS (fused) OMAPs this initial USB loader payload must be signed just like x-loader has to be for eMMC boot. If the payload doesn't have a signature that checks out, the OMAP halts until it's reset. This is enforced by hardware, so short of finding a sploit in the OMAP ROM code or a copy of Amazon's USB boot tools used in factory it's not going to work.
TL;DR not likely.
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Considering his knowledge of bootloaders and low level hardware stuffs far exceeds mine, and the fact that he's been looking at this issue ever since the B&N Nook devices (maybe even longer), I have to assume he knows what he's talking about.
The information on the page at Mascote seems to contradict what Pokey9000 says because usbboot uses an a-boot(x-loader) instead of this not-so-typical USB loader mentioned previously. And the answer to whether or not the author was actually successful in reviving the KFHD using this method has been left a little ambiguous.
But, as much as it would suck for me to have been the d*ck that told everyone that it couldn't be done, I would LOVE to be proven wrong.
I'd say, if you have a hard-bricked KFHD, then I guess there's not much else you can lose by testing it out.
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A while back, I brought this question up to Pokey9000, the developer of FireFireFire and Firekit for the Original Kindle Fire. His exact response to me was...
Considering his knowledge of bootloaders and low level hardware stuffs far exceeds mine, and the fact that he's been looking at this issue ever since the B&N Nook devices (maybe even longer), I have to assume he knows what he's talking about.
The information on the page at Mascote seems to contradict what Pokey9000 says because usbboot uses an a-boot(x-loader) instead of this not-so-typical USB loader mentioned previously. And the answer to whether or not the author was actually successful in reviving the KFHD using this method has been left a little ambiguous.
But, as much as it would suck for me to have been the d*ck that told everyone that it couldn't be done, I would LOVE to be proven wrong.
I'd say, if you have a hard-bricked KFHD, then I guess there's not much else you can lose by testing it out.
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I have tried this on the 2012 KFHD (tate) and found it to work. After trying every recovery option via adb/fastboot. plus using factory cable. i was left with no choice. i used a pin needle with grounding wire attached to chassis of the kindle. be carefull the top is power(button?), bottom is restart. if you lose contact at all during the process. It will boot/reboot as normal.
with this method you must use CMD(in admin mode from pc) and adb push/pull/install/uninstall as needed. device has no input in this boot.
bryanfeanor said:
searching i found this page where explain how to fix the hard brick, black screen no sing of life, cant post links so, search in google "new life for a dead Kindle fire hd, is in mascote..... can any expert try it and explain that to the rest of us,
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Were you able to get yours going using that?
go8soccer said:
Were you able to get yours going using that?
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sadly no, it´s been more than 3 years now that my kindle brick.
Djskizo said:
I have tried this on the 2012 KFHD (tate) and found it to work. After trying every recovery option via adb/fastboot. plus using factory cable. i was left with no choice. i used a pin needle with grounding wire attached to chassis of the kindle. be carefull the top is power(button?), bottom is restart. if you lose contact at all during the process. It will boot/reboot as normal.
with this method you must use CMD(in admin mode from pc) and adb push/pull/install/uninstall as needed. device has no input in this boot.
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I just recently bricked mine. Black screen. And all it does is charge. I can tell because the cable and device gets hot. Before i waste my time, would this help me. And yes i have that exact version
Otak98 said:
I just recently bricked mine. Black screen. And all it does is charge. I can tell because the cable and device gets hot. Before i waste my time, would this help me. And yes i have that exact version
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A few hours ago I was given a Tate to fix, and having read around the subject, Djskizo's post sounds either like a complicated homemade factory fastboot cable, or to be honest a fake. Perhaps the OP meant fastboot instead of ADB, but that combined with vague details puts me off trying it. Try a factory cable perhaps, I'm gonna try making one (short out micro usb pins 1 and 4) and I'll get back to you on the results.
Any updates?
Any updates on this? I hard bricked mine yesterday flashing the wrong bootloader. Can't believe how easy it is to brick it. I just have myself to blame, I know...
I saw this post on Mascote and it seems like a post for KFHD Gen 1. Is this the one being referred to, by you guys?
Only Djskizo seems to claim that this works for KFHD Gen 2(tate) so far. Is this true?
Djskizo said:
I have tried this on the 2012 KFHD (tate) and found it to work. After trying every recovery option via adb/fastboot. plus using factory cable. i was left with no choice. i used a pin needle with grounding wire attached to chassis of the kindle. be carefull the top is power(button?), bottom is restart. if you lose contact at all during the process. It will boot/reboot as normal.
with this method you must use CMD(in admin mode from pc) and adb push/pull/install/uninstall as needed. device has no input in this boot.
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I cant seem to figure out how to do the usbboot trick. I have a fire hd 3rd gen. On the board there is actually a point that says usb boot next to it but when i ground that out and plug it in it's still froze at the unanimated boot screen, sometimes the background also turns white? What am i doing wrong or is this point labeled just to confuse me
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Here is the pic of the usb boot and the board name.
Hello there!
First of all, sorry for my bad english :/
Well i have the Kindle Fire HD 7. Tate Version.
So i had the Customrom Knology. After a year or so i developed some bugs, so i wanted to set it new etc.
Well i accidently erased the whole bootloader etc. :/
I have a factory cable. Via the Laptop of my Girlfriend i can connect the Kindle with factory cable in fastboot.
Then i ran the KFHD_SRTv1.3.5
Also SR-Tool.
After use Function 1 or 2.
Restore factory rooted etx.
I cant Start the kindle and its still in bootloop. Means Logo repeat and repeat Blinking.
Well when i try to erase the cache and userdata it takes LOOONG time for the userdata. i let it for hours but no result.
Well on PC itselfs i can Use the adb commands in the CMD window. But its waiting for Device. Both PC and Laptop have Windows 7 64 Bit
Pls help me :/
Trailerpark1 said:
Hello there!
First of all, sorry for my bad english :/
Well i have the Kindle Fire HD 7. Tate Version.
So i had the Customrom Knology. After a year or so i developed some bugs, so i wanted to set it new etc.
Well i accidently erased the whole bootloader etc. :/
I have a factory cable. Via the Laptop of my Girlfriend i can connect the Kindle with factory cable in fastboot.
Then i ran the KFHD_SRTv1.3.5
Also SR-Tool.
After use Function 1 or 2.
Restore factory rooted etx.
I cant Start the kindle and its still in bootloop. Means Logo repeat and repeat Blinking.
Well when i try to erase the cache and userdata it takes LOOONG time for the userdata. i let it for hours but no result.
Well on PC itselfs i can Use the adb commands in the CMD window. But its waiting for Device. Both PC and Laptop have Windows 7 64 Bit
Pls help me :/
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Its gonna be hard to do anything if your PC doesn't recognize it or if your tablet doesn't respond to anything. Sounds to me like you're gonna have to get the stock firmware back on the device and start over with getting the second bootloader installed.
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Its gonna be hard to do anything if your PC doesn't recognize it or if your tablet doesn't respond to anything. Sounds to me like you're gonna have to get the stock firmware back on the device and start over with getting the second bootloader installed.
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Well as i said with the laptop i can connect... how do i Install the Stockrom?
If you have a stock firmware .img then you should be able to flash it through fastboot.
Y?
Well which is the right firmware for me?
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Y?
Well which is the right firmware for me?
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Its been a while since I've messed with a kindle so I'm not sure what firmware you need. That is decided by which model/version of kindle you have. I have the very first kindle, its been almost two years since I did any custom stuff to it and I've gone through many other devices since then. I wish I could help with an exact answer, I was only trying to get you headed in the right direction. Find your firmware based on which kindle you have.
Well i know which my kindle is. The CMD Command said, that the firmware is on the kindle. and then still bootloop
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Well i know which my kindle is. The CMD Command said, that the firmware is on the kindle. and then still bootloop
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OK, so your firmware is still there and still shows but your bootloader is wiped out? OK, same answer, reflash your stock firmware to see if it will repair the bootloader and see if it will boot, if you've already tried flashing and it did nothing to restore your bootloader then I'm not sure what you can do about that, I don't understand the stock kindle stuff as well as I do other android devices, its kind of in its own class of android because its more android-ish than it is actual full on android so I don't know its elements are quite different.
Well thankl you then. Maybe anyone can help instead of u :/
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Well thankl you then. Maybe anyone can help instead of u :/
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As I said, I wasn't trying to give you a definite answer, I was just trying to get you in the right direction. It IS the only response you've gotten so I wouldn't be so snide if I were you, I could have not answered and you would still be waiting for an answer from someone even now. I've told you what you can do to get straight, from what I've experienced the only thing you can do from the point that you're at is do some extensive searching on Google to find the build number of the stock firmware your device shipped with based on which version of kindle that you have and install it through fastboot, I know of nothing else that will restore a device from the state yours is in. If it doesn't work then the device is probably dead and useless.
Sorry pal, i doesnt want to be rude or snyde.. Im rly grateful to you.
as i said my english is bad.. and i had a long day... Sorry for being inpolite.
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Sorry pal, i doesnt want to be rude or snyde.. Im rly grateful to you.
as i said my english is bad.. and i had a long day... Sorry for being inpolite.
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No problem, I was only trying to help in the capacity that I could. Have you taken what I've told you and asked around in other threads how to go about using it to get your kindle fixed?
Have you tried getting someone with the same device as yours that still has the stock firmware like yours to do a ROM dump in terminal emulator to create an .img for you then upload it so you can download it then try pushing it to your device through terminal on PC? It may work for you. Can you even boot to recovery? I expect not since you killed your bootloader. Have you tried flashing recovery through fastboot then trying to boot to recovery? I'm not sure that will work either but its worth trying.
Hey Guys,
I spent today trying to root my Kindle Fire HD 7, 4th gen (i think). After trying for ages it coudnt get it work so i decided to give up. when shutting it down in the recovery mode screen, i hit the power button while it was over the option reboot bootloader or something like that.
Now the Kindle will not turn and when i plug it into my pc, it is showing as an HTC Dream.
What i want to know have i broken it completely or is there away i can undo what i have done.
I updated my fire to os 5 and my windows operating system is 10.
cheers.
Scott
scotth93rfc said:
Hey Guys,
I spent today trying to root my Kindle Fire HD 7, 4th gen (i think). After trying for ages it coudnt get it work so i decided to give up. when shutting it down in the recovery mode screen, i hit the power button while it was over the option reboot bootloader or something like that.
Now the Kindle will not turn and when i plug it into my pc, it is showing as an HTC Dream.
What i want to know have i broken it completely or is there away i can undo what i have done.
I updated my fire to os 5 and my windows operating system is 10.
cheers.
Scott
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I've how got it back on and its installing the lastest software, phew! thought i had broekn it :L
Same issue
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I've how got it back on and its installing the lastest software, phew! thought i had broekn it :L
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How did you fix it?
I have a 5th gen Fire and I tried downgrading to 5.12 from 5.32.x...it didn't work... I now have a tablet which doesn't show any signs of power... I've tried different software I.e. KFU and the Kindle Unbrick tool but no luck....anyway when I connect it to the PC I hear the sound of when I plug in a USB but then about 3 seconds after then it disconnects and then reconnects and so on but never shows anything on the screen it is completely black. My problem is that it won't stay on long enough to do any significant reflash or any kind of fix. If anyone can help me in keeping it on long enough then I could flash with its stock update. I may even have to solder some points on the board but that's fine so long as I can fix it....
Thanks in advanced any help is appreciated
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I have a 5th gen Fire and I tried downgrading to 5.12 from 5.32.x...it didn't work... I now have a tablet which doesn't show any signs of power... I've tried different software I.e. KFU and the Kindle Unbrick tool but no luck....anyway when I connect it to the PC I hear the sound of when I plug in a USB but then about 3 seconds after then it disconnects and then reconnects and so on but never shows anything on the screen it is completely black. My problem is that it won't stay on long enough to do any significant reflash or any kind of fix. If anyone can help me in keeping it on long enough then I could flash with its stock update. I may even have to solder some points on the board but that's fine so long as I can fix it....
Thanks in advanced any help is appreciated
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This section is for the 1st generation Fire
see
Fire Index: Which Amazon (Kindle) Fire Do I have?
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I have ended up in the exact same spot after attempting a downgrade to 5.1.1.
I downgraded to try and fix an odd problem. I recently wiped my CM version back to stock, but when registering the device it forced me into Kid's Edition - I did the downgrade in an attempt to bypass that. Now it's just a paperweight/doorstop.
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I have ended up in the exact same spot after attempting a downgrade to 5.1.1.
I downgraded to try and fix an odd problem. I recently wiped my CM version back to stock, but when registering the device it forced me into Kid's Edition - I did the downgrade in an attempt to bypass that. Now it's just a paperweight/doorstop.
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Sorry for your loss; device is unrecoverable. Contact Amazon for a courtesy replacement is still under warranty.