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OK, so tethering your laptop and G1 device isn’t entirely new, but in the past the processes have required root access, or have just been plain messy. However, help is at hand in the form of PDAnet 3G tethering application by June Fabrics (who partners with Palm). This program allows users to use their mobile internet on their G1 as a modem for their laptop.
First and foremost, this little application does not require root access to work. Second, it is free. Currently in BETA stages, the application seems to still run flawlessly according to numerous reports around the internet. In the future, the final version will likely become a ‘paid application’, but if it works well, we think it will prove rather successful.
Of course there is a downside. Using your G1 as a modem for your laptop is probably in direct conflict with your terms and conditions and excessive usage will easily get you a warning and potentially chucked off the mobile interweb. You have been warned.
linkhttp://www.junefabrics.com/android/
Thanks, but I already posted about this a few days ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495329
After playing with it for a while, I found that it disconnects frequently, but I guess it's good for people that want to tether and don't have root.
I actually prefer PDANet's USB tethering to the WiFi tether. You don't have to worry or deal with "securing" the connection. It seems faster (although that could be just me) - and frankly, I keep the phone plugged in to my laptop while using wifi tether anyways, since you basically have to have a connection.
The only ****ty part is that you need the PDANet software on your laptop, so you can't just give the connection to friends, etc.
But hey, that's why it's awesome to have both options.
Also, when doing the wifi tether, I always get the "hover your mouse over for 2 seconds to load this image" on all the damn images, it always shows compressed crap... with PDANet it loads fully.
Sweeeeeet!!!... Can say good bye cable company!!!
mine never disconnects, it works great, and for me its ether this or dial up!
Very unreliable
I've found PDANet to be unreliable to the point of uselessness. Constantly drops the connection and runs very slowly when it works. Not a solution at all.
I have done the NAND install method on my Vogue with Myn's Warm Donut RLS3 from 2010-02-20. Since I do not have a data plan, and have the XV6900, which comes without WiFi, I cannot just connect to a local network to get internet access, so how do I get access over the USB cable or via Bluetooth? This would basically be like "Reverse-tethering", that you can do in Windows via ActiveSync (when you are hooked up you can use the desktop PC's internet connection)
So, how do we do this now on Android?
Thanks,
-C
Short version: we don't. Do you want details?
Well, without looking very hard... I know this is possible, since you can do almost anything on Linux. Here's a brief description of how this is done, although it may need some modification for our builds:
http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=154
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http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/internet-over-usb
Search for android ifconfig usb and see what you can find.
polyrhythmic said:
Well, without looking very hard... I know this is possible, since you can do almost anything on Linux. Here's a brief description of how this is done, although it may need some modification for our builds:
http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=154
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http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/internet-over-usb
Search for android ifconfig usb and see what you can find.
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We certainly could if it was supported in our kernel, but our only USB drivers are adb and mass storage. I believe dzo and mssmison are working on some other. cdc, ethernet, rndis, etc. aren't currently supported.
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Short version: we don't. Do you want details?
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Hmm bummer. Most people with cell service are STILL not paying for data plans, and only about 50% of people with smartphones have data plans yet. Heck...I got a data plan and then got rid of it after 6 months...that alone was $180 worth that was totally wasted for what...the convenience of checking email on my lunch break....yeah that's worth it. At least ATT is only $10 a month now if you are on a shared plan with your family for unlimited data. To bad I an on VZW, lol...
So anyway, it seems like this would almost be a must. I would gladly pay a developer here $50 if he came up with a widget to do it. He'd make a lot more than that on the market too if he developed that.
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So anyway, it seems like this would almost be a must. I would gladly pay a developer here $50 if he came up with a widget to do it. He'd make a lot more than that on the market too if he developed that.
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'Real' android phones can do it, our kernel can't. Plus, you can't download from market or use youtube, etc, over bluetooth tethering (I've tried) or via usb from what I've read. Only the cellular data connection and wifi are considered 'valid' by Android. So the dev would have to fix that, too, to make it worthwhile.
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'Real' android phones can do it, our kernel can't. Plus, you can't download from market or use youtube, etc, over bluetooth tethering (I've tried) or via usb from what I've read. Only the cellular data connection and wifi are considered 'valid' by Android. So the dev would have to fix that, too, to make it worthwhile.
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I would be happy just to have WiFi, but the XV6900 (Verizon Touch) doesnt even have WiFi at all. I am considering getting the Nexus when it comes to Verizon in a few months.
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I would be happy just to have WiFi, but the XV6900 (Verizon Touch) doesnt even have WiFi at all. I am considering getting the Nexus when it comes to Verizon in a few months.
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Yeah, and the mogul might be a good solve but it only has a 64 MB ROM... I know, been through it all in my head before, too.
Thanks
Thanks. It can sure take some time searching to find some of this info, but even with the NO it won't work I'll still be searching
I want the Bluetooth PAN on Android!
It does not make any sense that Google would know I'm connecting via Bluetooth PAN vs. WiFi to my PC since this occurs behind my Router??? The IP is set at the Router level, my phone should not be visible.
edit... misread post above.
I guess Android itself would know, but that seems odd. But Odd rules sometimes.
Any updates on possibilities yet ??? or there is still no way to use internet on Vogue Andriod without having data plan ?
gogodj said:
Any updates on possibilities yet ??? or there is still no way to use internet on Vogue Andriod without having data plan ?
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Not yet... the reasons posted above are still true.
Are there any plans to add this feature to future ROMS? The only reason I haven't switched to android from windows mobile is because of this.
damaph said:
Are there any plans to add this feature to future ROMS? The only reason I haven't switched to android from windows mobile is because of this.
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I don't think so. It's a kernel thing, not a rom thing, and it requires a lot of driver work. But even if it did work, android wouldn't recognize it as a valid connection.
rfcomm + pppd to tether both ways?
I am new to android, but I have networking experience with Linux. I am running Myn's latest Warm Donut on my Sprint Touch. And it seems that hciconfig/hcitool are working to associate the phone with another bluetooth interface. Also, rfcomm seems to be working. And lastly, pppd is installed and (indeed) necessary for the 3g/edge connection as evidenced by the ppp0 in ifconfig. Also, reviewing dmesg, I see L2CAP and BNEP are compiled into the kernel. And pand is also compiled and running. I am not familiar with these, but it seems to offer another route for maybe getting a bluetooth IP link established.
So, my question is simply this. Can we not use the hci commands to associate the phone to another bluetooth adapter on, say, a networked Linux system? Then use rfcomm to build a bluetooth serial connection between the two systems, and finally establish a ppp interface on each end of that serial link? Once that is done, the two systems will share a point-to-point IP link over BT over which they can communicate. Then it is simply a matter of establishing gateways, proxies, iptables NAT, DNS, and routes to make either forwarded or reversed tethered connections. I am reasonably confident I can do that. With a Class 1 bluetooth interface on the Linux server side, the range could be extended for reverse tethering...perhaps making it useful as a moderate range wifi replacement. Other webpages discuss similar approaches using bluetooth rfcomm/pppd. It might require experimentation to find reasonable baud rates for the serial link, etc., but nothing seems obviously impossible. And bluetooth can provide a 1 Mbps+ speeds...again, not great, but better than Edge or dodgy EVDO.
Likewise, we may be able to build a proper PAN connection. I am not familiar with pand and bnep interfaces, but I could probably figure it out.
As I said, I am new to Android, and I am just starting to test this on my phone. Is there something that I am missing with regard to existing hci/rfcomm/pand functionality? Dmesg reports all of these compiled in and hcitool scan seems to do something...it blinks the blue light and find my laptop. I guess I am just asking if someone can shoot holes in my idea before I waste too much time pursuing it.
Thanks.
mprinkey said:
I am new to android, but I have networking experience with Linux. I am running Myn's latest Warm Donut on my Sprint Touch. And it seems that hciconfig/hcitool are working to associate the phone with another bluetooth interface. Also, rfcomm seems to be working. And lastly, pppd is installed and (indeed) necessary for the 3g/edge connection as evidenced by the ppp0 in ifconfig. Also, reviewing dmesg, I see L2CAP and BNEP are compiled into the kernel. And pand is also compiled and running. I am not familiar with these, but it seems to offer another route for maybe getting a bluetooth IP link established.
So, my question is simply this. Can we not use the hci commands to associate the phone to another bluetooth adapter on, say, a networked Linux system? Then use rfcomm to build a bluetooth serial connection between the two systems, and finally establish a ppp interface on each end of that serial link? Once that is done, the two systems will share a point-to-point IP link over BT over which they can communicate. Then it is simply a matter of establishing gateways, proxies, iptables NAT, DNS, and routes to make either forwarded or reversed tethered connections. I am reasonably confident I can do that. With a Class 1 bluetooth interface on the Linux server side, the range could be extended for reverse tethering...perhaps making it useful as a moderate range wifi replacement. Other webpages discuss similar approaches using bluetooth rfcomm/pppd. It might require experimentation to find reasonable baud rates for the serial link, etc., but nothing seems obviously impossible. And bluetooth can provide a 1 Mbps+ speeds...again, not great, but better than Edge or dodgy EVDO.
Likewise, we may be able to build a proper PAN connection. I am not familiar with pand and bnep interfaces, but I could probably figure it out.
As I said, I am new to Android, and I am just starting to test this on my phone. Is there something that I am missing with regard to existing hci/rfcomm/pand functionality? Dmesg reports all of these compiled in and hcitool scan seems to do something...it blinks the blue light and find my laptop. I guess I am just asking if someone can shoot holes in my idea before I waste too much time pursuing it.
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That's all correct, and I've done it before. But the issue is that Android only acknowledges TWO kinds of data connections: cellular and wifi. When I setup a pan and iptable'd my way to the internet, I was able to get google maps, but not market. I haven't tried Opera but the android browser didn't work. Etc., etc. So I think the usefulness of pan is limited. The real challenge here is for someone to dig through the source and find out how to ADD bt and USB as 'valid' data interfaces. I've never looked into that.
Cellular connection is ppp0. Have you tried running pppd over rfcomm? Or assign an identical IP address to the pan/pppd interface and set it's metric a notch lower so it is preferred over the ppp0 one? Also, will Android route over a VPN? Setup pan and VPN over it. VPN seems to "own" Internet traffic when it is configured according to this: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4205
Also, I've seen posts indicating that the default browser can be configured to use a proxy.
Just ideas and I'd like to know what you've tried so I don't waste my time. Thanks for your input.
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Cellular connection is ppp0. Have you tried running pppd over rfcomm? Or assign an identical IP address to the pan/pppd interface and set it's metric a notch lower so it is preferred over the ppp0 one? Also, will Android route over a VPN? Setup pan and VPN over it. Also, I've seen posts indicating that the default browser can be configured to use a proxy.
Just ideas and I'd like to know what you've tried so I don't waste my time. Thanks for your input.
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Nope, didn't try any fancy-pants stuff. When I did all this, I was a total n00b to linux (only a partial n00b now) and it didn't take too long, so I say - give it a try! That's the spirit around here.
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Nope, didn't try any fancy-pants stuff. When I did all this, I was a total n00b to linux (only a partial n00b now) and it didn't take too long, so I say - give it a try! That's the spirit around here.
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Great. That is encouraging. The link that I edited into my previous post seems to indicate that ALL traffic gets routed over the VPN when it is established. That would fix any security concerns I'd have about using a high-powered BT adapter. I think I will give it a spin.
USB Ethernet
In my kernel hacking trying to get Debian to run, I managed to enable USB Ethernet (the function driver; USB gadget crashes the phone) working, and I've been using it to SSH into my phone. I've used it to apt-get update without any problems. I believe it's just a kernel config option (although I might have done some code modifications), so the problem isn't the driver, it's with Android's userspace.
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In my kernel hacking trying to get Debian to run, I managed to enable USB Ethernet (the function driver; USB gadget crashes the phone) working, and I've been using it to SSH into my phone. I've used it to apt-get update without any problems. I believe it's just a kernel config option (although I might have done some code modifications), so the problem isn't the driver, it's with Android's userspace.
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So you enabled USB ether in the kernel config and it's working for you? Against a linux host or Windows? that would be nice, I haven't tried that in ages.
Edit: yes, the 'valid' connection check is definitely in Android userspace. But I either forgot or didn't know that our usb ether func driver worked when enabled.
perhaps somebody here could be tolerant enough to assist or direct me to concise clear info to such a likely passe situation.
Phone again, stock from VZW and fully updated.
Barnacle installed from market.
I have a few questions;
1)Superoneclick seemed to only install "superuser" on my phone. Does this mean the busy box and abd things, of which I have no idea what to do with, is only accessible via my win7 64 bit pc while the phone is connected to it via usb?
2)How do I optimize this phone with stock rom and remove "bloatware" as well as eliminate intrusive programs? Are there any threads which ID these as well as their functions?
3) Jrummy Droid Overclock installed, several versions in fact, and the best I could do was make the phone extremely laborious and finally reverted back to stock settings before uninstalling. I did have to click the "experimental" box to make it able to scale the stock rom.
Any thread or info as to some failproof settings to make this stock thing work much better/faster?
4) Can this phone, usb tether the data connection without any paid apps or limitations regarding secure sites and such?
Interestingly enough, I'm finding the search functions on this forum to be impossible on my handheld and just about the same from my pc. From the handheld, it wanted me to assemble pix which my touchscreen or keyboard didn't seem to allow.
From the pc, 'no matches found' or something to that affect.
Also, when I was having problems recalling my login info, had almost given up deciding instead to reregister, I got a denial message based on having a verizon wireless IP. Weird.
I'm rereading the beginners info and it would be nice to be able to simply make my stock rom'd droid better.
Feel free to tell me if I'm pissing in the wind and need to just do different roms and or kernals. However, I'd like to just keep it simple for now.
You are able to download Busybox straight from the Android Market: https://market.android.com/details?id=stericson.busybox&feature=search_result
You can tether your phone to create a wireless hotspot, but I'm not 100% sure about USB tether.
skadude66 said:
You are able to download Busybox straight from the Android Market: https://market.android.com/details?id=stericson.busybox&feature=search_result
You can tether your phone to create a wireless hotspot, but I'm not 100% sure about USB tether.
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Yes and thanks, I snagged barnacle for that. It works fine although I'm either too green to make it secure, or the WEP stuff is broken.
That is why I'd like the option to have a more secure hardwire tether.
I know I can do pda.net and some other apps, it seems to me that it should be able to do that perhaps just with some tweaks.
So when I extracted superoneclick on my pc, I see busybox and such in that file. I just did the one click and nothing else, not even on my phone.
It is interesting how fast such basic topics become inundated with miles of confusing info to bewilder a virtual computer twit.
It looks like what you want to do is basically create a wireless hotspot with your phone? Because I use Wireless Tether for Root Users and I am able to encrypt it and set up a secure connection.
Here's what I pulled from the Barnacle website:
How do I use WEP?
Barnacle support 40 and 104-bit WEP. In Settings find Wireless Security and enable WEP, then type in the key. For 40-bit WEP, type in 5 ASCII characters or 10 hex digits. For 104-bit WEP, type in 13 ASCII characters or 26 hex digits. Passphrase is not supported.
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skadude66 said:
It looks like what you want to do is basically create a wireless hotspot with your phone? Because I use Wireless Tether for Root Users and I am able to encrypt it and set up a secure connection.
Here's what I pulled from the Barnacle website:
How do I use WEP?
Barnacle support 40 and 104-bit WEP. In Settings find Wireless Security and enable WEP, then type in the key. For 40-bit WEP, type in 5 ASCII characters or 10 hex digits. For 104-bit WEP, type in 13 ASCII characters or 26 hex digits. Passphrase is not supported.
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Phone Settings? "no "Wireless Security" to be found nor did I readily find anything to do with WEP under the Wireless sections.
Barnacle? Again, no "Wireless Security" section found. There is a "Wireless Encryption" settings section. I did enable it with the app stopped and set a five digit alpha code. Restarted Barnacle and my pc completely disregarded it, connected to it with no input required and the signal still shows as unsecured and public.
I'm pleased that it tethers, I would like to make it secure and I would also like to easily usb it to any laptop or pc sans having to load software on them unless said pc/device was older and didn't automatically recognize this phone, as this new win 7 pc did, where upon loading some drivers would be seem reasonable.
I'm not pc/droid knowledgeable enough to know if this is dreaming but, it seems reasonable that it's usb output could be toggled and be seen as a modem connection.
I'm sure it can, but people use Wireless tethering more than a physical USB tethering.
I've never actually used this, but I've heard of people using it when they need to tether via USB: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mstream.easytether_beta&feature=search_result
Yes and thanks, I truly appreciate your efforts to help and your tolerance for my ignorance.
I am aware of those various usb tethering programs and I suppose my question is why must software be loaded on a device capable of seeing other usb plugged connections and run them 'plug and play'?
I'll see if somebody with barnacle can assist me with the WEP issue. I've tried it several ways and have had no success. Possibly related, my droid no longer will send MMS. It still receives them, just no longer sends. I wish I could say if that occurred after rooting or after attempting overclocking, but, it happened after one or both.
Wait, does the Easy Tether not require software to be installled on usb tethered device? I was sure it did and after reading the page, it doesn't mention it.
It's still bizarre that I can wirelessly tether now that soc rooted it, but I still have to buy an app to usb tether it, and I was pretty sure, install stuff on device to be tethered.
No problem, anytime!
Honestly, I don't know much about Easy Tether, I've heard about it, but have not delved much deeper into it.
What ROM are you using (if any)? I know that I had some issues with CM7 and a little bit less with Cronos right now, where I send a text message and it hangs with "Sending..." for hours at a time.
How much did you overclock your phone by? What vsel?
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I used JRummy's Droid Overclock as it is supposed to overclock a stock rom'd A855 droid.
I tried several several many settings, mostly what was recommended, but none of them seemed to make it better, and if they did, I couldn't seem to make them stick upon rebooting.
Kept all attempts at or below 800MHz.
I'm sure it's my lack of understanding and likely there are some simple settings that will speed it up with just a few clicks as well as save thru a fast and speedy reboot.
Gotta switch but, I was wondering if 2 things are available in wp8 for sprint. 1- Is there any restriction for downloads and is there free Internet sharing. I realize this question is redundant but I keep getting different answers.
I can't speak for Sprint specifically, but in general...
The restrictions for downloads (I assume you mean things like "apps over 20MB must be downloaded over WiFi" or some such thing) should be the same as on WP7. In theory it's possible for us to override those restrictions, although I don't think anybody has yet written an app to do it.
The built-in "Internet Sharing" feature works exactly like it does on WP7. If your Arrive is allowed to do it, your Ativ S Neo will be too.
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Let me explain. Sprint charges for WiFi hot spot usage. With Leads rom on my arrive I am able to use internet sharing for free. I guess my main concern about a switch is whether I can do this still for free. Thanks
If you don't see anything here, its because it hasn't been found yet. I'm trying to find the same for Verizon, but LTE has made a mess of things. The Android gurus won't help either...
I hope a internet sharing/hotspot solution is available for Sprint.
I'm eligible for upgrade March 1st, and was going to get the Ativ S Neo just for a change of pace. Been using Android for 3 or 4 years now, the last windows phone I had was a Touch Pro 2.
Not a deal breaker, but I do use hotspot fairly regularly to get around works firewall...
Some people are experimenting with partially-customized ROMs for the Ativ S (no idea if they've gotten to the Neo yet; it's relatively new). Those *might* support the kinds of changes needed for free tethering.
Alternatively, you may be able to use wired tethering for free via the Diagnosis app. I can (my plan includes tethering at no extra cost, but it is capped; when I use wired tethering it doesn't report any tethered data usage).
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Some people are experimenting with partially-customized ROMs for the Ativ S (no idea if they've gotten to the Neo yet; it's relatively new). Those *might* support the kinds of changes needed for free tethering.
Alternatively, you may be able to use wired tethering for free via the Diagnosis app. I can (my plan includes tethering at no extra cost, but it is capped; when I use wired tethering it doesn't report any tethered data usage).
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CDMA Tethering has changed these days. They have built in "entitlement checks" to see if your eligible for tethering. I went to one of the Verizon device threads and asked but no luck.
The device username is the only thing listed. On another note, Verizon's USB modems seem to talk directly through a Networking Adapter instead of a normal modem. Their VZManager might need looked at more.
Sprint might be different OTOH.
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I've been playing around with VRidge a lot lately, and it's really cool - being able to play VR games on my computer and stream them to my phone is nice. I'm using the 5ghz wifi streaming method for now and it works great, but... My phone heats up a lot after 10-15 minutes. Through some testing of various non-streaming GearVR games and apps, I can say with some certainty that it's the fact I'm streaming over wifi that's causing my phone to heat up.
So knowing that, I've been trying to get tethering to work. Of course the first thing I did was just try to turn it on in my settings - but Verizon wants another $30/month for the honor, which is just absurd since I'm already paying that for 2 whole gb of bandwidth a month. So with that out the window, I've tried a few other options:
Cyanogenmod Tether
PdaNet+
A method I found here involving Network Signal Refresher
Pulling my sim card (Won't even let me try without a sim card in)
Rooting methods... Obviously can't do any of these because as far as I know, the Verizon Note 5 has yet to be rooted. (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
Needless to say, none of these worked... For RiftCat at least. I've submitted a feature request to utilize a tether app instead of the native tether, but some brief googling makes me think this may not be possible (The developer of a competing project mentioned something along those lines last year).
So, I have a few ideas that I wanted XDA's opinions on:
A "test sim card" - I can pick a few up for a few dollars. Will this allow me to enable usb tethering, or will it check to see if the SIM card is valid / has 5g first?
A usb-to-ethernet cable, plugged into an ethernet card on my computer and hopefully finding a way to make my phone think it's just a wifi connection. Is this even possible? I had the idea an hour ago and haven't had much time to research it.
Drilling holes into my GearVR phone cover, attaching a fan to it, and hoping it can cool my phone's CPU down.
New idea: Get a sim card from a "pay for what you use" service like Ting and turn off mobile data when I use USB tethering... Can this iteration of the Note 5 do that?
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On a related note, is there a more active place I can post this to? I picked this forum because it's specific to my device, but I feel like it's an issue a lot of people have.