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Hi all,
I'm traveling today to a pretty hot place where the temperature can get to 55-55 degrees Celsius. I wanted to know If any one knows of any temperature limit, that if crossed may damage the screen to the electronics of the phone?
Thanks
I think the battery has a maximum operational temperature, and that the instructional booklet specifies what. Additionaly, this one time, at JPK, I was playing rescource-hard games while listening to music, and the phone turned off. I think it was around 55 degrees celcius. But check the booklet!
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i've hit 61c and still working fine
others have reported 65c
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i've hit 61c and still working fine
others have reported 65c
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Does he mean room temperature or operating temperature though? If the ambient temperature is 55 deg C, then the phone itself will reach MUCH higher temperatures than an environment of 20deg C (because dissipation of heat becomes increasingly difficult).
Check the manual to see the tested ambient/environment operating temperature range. I doubt many manufacturers test beyond a 40 deg environment/ambient temperature honestly, because humans need to maintain a core body temperature of 37deg C anyway, but the maximum operating temperature of the internal components probably isn't known.
If you must operate your phone in a very hot climate, I'd suggest you only use your phone when absolutely required, and disable features such as bluetooth/wifi to keep it cool. But if it were me, I'd get a militarised phone..
If you are referring to the phones internal temperature (and the outside air temperature is much cooler), then 55 deg C is most likely fine. Solder's melting point is far above 100, and the Pentium 3 at least was shut down at 100deg C.
Hello friends...I just bought my Xperia z1 yesterday. I have updated it to 2.257 , with normal usage of 10-15 mins continuously the temp rises to around 33-35 and when i use Camera for around 5-10 mins even, temp rise to around 40 degree and with a game like subway surfers the temp rises to 42-43 degree ... 43 was the highest i saw so far...
Is this ok with this phone ? Or should i go to service center ?
I am using the premium cover i got with the phone, with that on I don't really feel the hotness in my hands but just want to be sure that this is normal heat up with this phone and my phone is not bad..
Also, when the phone is at 43 degree, should i stop using it and allow it to cool ? or should i keep playing the games , use the camera and all...
Any application that can help reduce the heating ? and any better camera app u can suggest ?
Also, please don't suggest to root..I do not want to void the warranty but after 1 year I will definitely root the phone and use custom roms then...
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what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?
If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device
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what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?
If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device
lashton said:
what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?
If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device
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Ambient temp is around 25 only...the back cover just realized is separating from the top end camera side only.
I heard from some friend that If i go to the customer service regarding this heat , they will only say that it is normal as there is no warning message being popped in the phone about overheating.
And at sonymobile.com every one is saying that this is a normal heat up in z1 and on high gaming this temp will even rise to 50+ and there is still no issue except that the battery will drain faster on such temperature. I don't really understand why such heat up is being considered as normal in this phone...I mean it is heating , i can feel it..there can be some h/w issue arise in future coz of this
The explication for the high temperatures, i think, is because the phone is sealed (water proof and all) and the heat can't be very well dispersed in this case. That's why, on Z, many users complained that their phones overheated so much that the adhesive would loosen up (from the back cover) compromising the sealing proof of the device.
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The explication for the high temperatures, i think, is because the phone is sealed (water proof and all) and the heat can't be very well dispersed in this case. That's why, on Z, many users complained that their phones overheated so much that the adhesive would loosen up (from the back cover) compromising the sealing proof of the device.
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This is not always true. Most phones usually do not use any kind of air cooling. There are no fans or even any channels for air to move through in any phone im familiar with. Some phones (GS4 i think?) now have a water loop to transfer heat to the case more effectively, but they pretty much all just use the case to cool down.
When i first got my Z1 i had charged it to full then began using it right away while it was still warm from charging. After about an hour of running every benchmark i could find i started to use the camera on its max setting for maybe 20min before it said something like "temperature is too high, closing camera" (i didnt check the temp but i was a bit warm lol..). I was plugged in for all this usage so i was putting out near maximum heat.
I wouldn't actually be worried about the phone temp, i think this is just the reality of having this beast of a quad core with the standard (very little) heat dissipation. That said i know the CPU/GPU can handle 60-70C no problem, but i would prefer to keep the battery temp below 50C if possible.. Edit: actually the battery health indicator was reading "overheat" and i was at 39C° according to battery temp. I was playing an online game for about 35min.
It would be cool to have a battery discharge widget to show you how much more power is used when all cores and GPU are running, i think some people would be surprised.
The phone should stay cooler if its not plugged in during usage, i think. Also, i'I've never gotten the phone that hot since and im not trying to keep it cool at all.
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It would be cool to have a battery discharge widget to show you how much more power is used when all cores and GPU are running, i think some people would be surprised.
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I use Current Widget it works fine and has a log to file function:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
The phone easily draws over 2 Amps during 3DMark, I guess maximum peak current will be around 3 Amps for some scenarios.That is a lot! Current Widget detected a battery voltage if 4,11V which means a power output of around 8 to 10W peak.
This is on the border of what can be passively cooled in this form factor. Actually it's a marvel of engineering to squeeze so much computing power into a smartphone. And you are right, there is no active air cooling in phones, I have never heard of water Cooling in a handset either, do you have a source? Sounds interesting but I can't believe it
I totally agree on the rest if your post though! Don't worry about heat, the device was meant to get hot, this big 3000mAh battery is there for a reason too. I don't know why so many people get crazy over this, Sony does usually know what they are doing and if they think a high temperature limit is fine, it is.
By the way: In the Nexus 5/ Z1 comparison thread the reviewer stated that the N5 got hotter than his Z1. All modern Smartphones do get hot, it is the tradeoff needed for high performance.
Edit: This topic has also been discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467743
Edit 2: You were right! NEC does use a ultrathin 0,6mm waterfilled heatpipe!
www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Top-...eat-pipe-inside-new-smartphone-models_id44174
I stand corrected! ^^
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I use Current Widget it works fine and has a log to file function:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
The phone easily draws over 2 Amps during 3DMark, I guess maximum peak current will be around 3 Amps for some scenarios.That is a lot! Current Widget detected a battery voltage if 4,11V which means a power output of around 8 to 10W peak.
This is on the border of what can be passively cooled in this form factor. Actually it's a marvel of engineering to squeeze so much computing power into a smartphone. And you are right, there is no active air cooling in phones, I have never heard of water Cooling in a handset either, do you have a source? Sounds interesting but I can't believe it
Edit 2: You were right! NEC does use a ultrathin 0,6mm waterfilled heatpipe!
www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Top-...eat-pipe-inside-new-smartphone-models_id44174
I stand corrected! ^^
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Wow 3 amps i wasn't expecting, but that discharge rate would be required to kill it in an hour. Still nuts, they have defiantly pushed the limits of passive cooling here which disappointed me a bit because this will effect the maximum overclock. I don't know what i need the OC for yet, but thankfully i can just drop this phone in some ice water and it should do over 3Ghz no? My mytough4G went from 1Ghz to 2Ghz so we can expect a 100% overclock here too right? (I don't think the battery could even draw power fast enough..)
And water cooled phones amirite? I was really excited at the water cooled phones, but its not a big deal yet. That NEC probably barely runs cooler, and our Z1 would destroy that cooling setup anyways.. Its almost like they need to increase the size of the new devices to dissipate more heat. Although I'm still a fan of microscopic black hole cooling. Yep, a small singularity should do just fine.
So for now, its ice water and a PS3/BT controller lol.
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And water cooled phones amirite? I was really excited at the water cooled phones, but its not a big deal yet. That NEC probably barely runs cooler, and our Z1 would destroy that cooling setup anyways.. Its almost like they need to increase the size of the new devices to dissipate more heat. Although I'm still a fan of microscopic black hole cooling.
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I really liked the black hole part
Yes just filling the heatpipes with water is no real water cooling, but it's nice to see some innovation. I'd rather like to see vapour chamber heatpipes like on modern graphics cards though, but without any heat sink that would useless too.
You are also right with your more size for better cooling theory, it's no wonder that Snapdragon 800 SoCs are just used in 5" and above devices. That's why I am so impressed with the Xperia Z1f (aka Z1 mini). If I am correctly informed it uses the same SoC as the big Z1 in a 4,3" chassis. That's an amazing feat and the first time a mini variant will be as fast as the big one (unlike S4 mini and One mini). But it will get throttled a lot more than our big Z1s I guess.
Edit: When going for some serious overclocks I would advise you to turn down display brightness completely, that should give you some 0,3 to 0,5 Amps of extra current
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I really liked the black hole part
Yes just filling the heatpipes with water is no real water cooling, but it's nice to see some innovation. I'd rather like to see vapour chamber heatpipes like on modern graphics cards though, but without any heat sink that would useless too.
You are also right with your more size for better cooling theory, it's no wonder that Snapdragon 800 SoCs are just used in 5" and above devices. That's why I am so impressed with the Xperia Z1f (aka Z1 mini). If I am correctly informed it uses the same SoC as the big Z1 in a 4,3" chassis. That's an amazing feat and the first time a mini variant will be as fast as the big one (unlike S4 mini and One mini). But it will get throttled a lot more than our big Z1s I guess.
Edit: When going for some serious overclocks I would advise you to turn down display brightness completely, that should give you some 0,3 to 0,5 Amps of extra current
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crusnikmachine said:
This is not always true. Most phones usually do not use any kind of air cooling. There are no fans or even any channels for air to move through in any phone im familiar with. Some phones (GS4 i think?) now have a water loop to transfer heat to the case more effectively, but they pretty much all just use the case to cool down.
When i first got my Z1 i had charged it to full then began using it right away while it was still warm from charging. After about an hour of running every benchmark i could find i started to use the camera on its max setting for maybe 20min before it said something like "temperature is too high, closing camera" (i didnt check the temp but i was a bit warm lol..). I was plugged in for all this usage so i was putting out near maximum heat.
I wouldn't actually be worried about the phone temp, i think this is just the reality of having this beast of a quad core with the standard (very little) heat dissipation. That said i know the CPU/GPU can handle 60-70C no problem, but i would prefer to keep the battery temp below 50C if possible.. Edit: actually the battery health indicator was reading "overheat" and i was at 39C° according to battery temp. I was playing an online game for about 35min.
It would be cool to have a battery discharge widget to show you how much more power is used when all cores and GPU are running, i think some people would be surprised.
The phone should stay cooler if its not plugged in during usage, i think. Also, i'I've never gotten the phone that hot since and im not trying to keep it cool at all.
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I understand your POV but as long as it is affecting my phone, it's integrity and one of the main features for which i bought it with a premium price and a safety measure has to kick in in order to stay everything "ok" like "temperature is too high, closing camera", I'm not so sure about giving it a pass so easily.
Dirrtydog said:
I understand your POV but as long as it is affecting my phone, it's integrity and one of the main features for which i bought it with a premium price and a safety measure has to kick in in order to stay everything "ok" like "temperature is too high, closing camera", I'm not so sure about giving it a pass so easily.
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However if you leave your device in the sun (car dash or w.e) it can get much hotter then it would from normal operation and when you try to wake the device it will usually immediately power down saying "high temp" or something. This is often the only way you would see this message imo. Pretty much all androids do this, so it really isn't specific to the Z1. An apple device would do the same thing etc.
Absolutely, no arguing.
But I don't agree when this happens while I'm playing a game, while (maybe) other apps are running in the background (multitasking), while wifi or 3g on, with more than 50% brightness level (not to mention maybe plugged to a power supply also to keep the battery from draining). In this particular case, on my old HTC One X, the overheating issue caused 2 burns on my phone's display (but that's another story) and i have them ever since.
So have you actually experienced any shut downs or warnings because of heat? Or do you just want to make sure that there's no problem?
I have been playing a lot if games and used the camera, so far everything seems stable, I have had no problems yet.
Mine reached 60 yesterday while playing dead trigger 2 but the CPU still scaled up to 2.15 so I guess the phone can take up to 65/70 degrees but my hands can't...
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Dirrtydog said:
Absolutely, no arguing.
But I don't agree when this happens while I'm playing a game, while (maybe) other apps are running in the background (multitasking), while wifi or 3g on, with more than 50% brightness level (not to mention maybe plugged to a power supply also to keep the battery from draining). In this particular case, on my old HTC One X, the overheating issue caused 2 burns on my phone's display (but that's another story) and i have them ever since.
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m666p said:
Mine reached 60 yesterday while playing dead trigger 2 but the CPU still scaled up to 2.15 so I guess the phone can take up to 65/70 degrees but my hands can't...
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Yea im with you.. At least you can dip this phone in water to cool it down xD
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Mine reached 60 yesterday while playing dead trigger 2 but the CPU still scaled up to 2.15 so I guess the phone can take up to 65/70 degrees but my hands can't...
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60 degrees celsius? Wow mine was doing 45 degrees while playing dead trigger 2 and I thaught I had a faulty handset
Okay, so just received my nexus 6 yesterday. it seems to get pretty warm while charging and playing simple games like crossy roads for around 10, the battery temperature goes to 42-4 degrees celcius. and while charging it also goes to around 41-42.
could this be due to the fact that this is a new phone and the phone is taking time to do its starting operations. will this problem eventully go away. i also updated to android 5.1
Hope i get a solve for this.
The app i use to monitor this is CPU Temp(also includes battery temp).
nklrwt said:
Okay, so just received my nexus 6 yesterday. it seems to get pretty warm while charging and playing simple games like crossy roads for around 10, the battery temperature goes to 42-4 degrees celcius. and while charging it also goes to around 41-42.
could this be due to the fact that this is a new phone and the phone is taking time to do its starting operations. will this problem eventully go away. i also updated to android 5.1
Hope i get a solve for this.
The app i use to monitor this is CPU Temp(also includes battery temp).
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If using the quick charger, the phone will get hot. Especially when playing a game and charging
nklrwt said:
Okay, so just received my nexus 6 yesterday. it seems to get pretty warm while charging and playing simple games like crossy roads for around 10, the battery temperature goes to 42-4 degrees celcius. and while charging it also goes to around 41-42.
could this be due to the fact that this is a new phone and the phone is taking time to do its starting operations. will this problem eventully go away. i also updated to android 5.1
Hope i get a solve for this.
The app i use to monitor this is CPU Temp(also includes battery temp).
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On the Turbo charger the first two step of the whole charge cycle are at a higher power 14.4W each the last is only 8W. More power more heat dissipation-especially if your using data and your processor is working hard, then it can get really hot. Toward the end if the change cycle it is considerably cooler-especially is your not doing anything in the phone.
Edit: I forgot in use the CPU can ramp up and get hot/warm(depending on how heavy the use(some "simple" games may have more running in background perhaps-like ads and such) but is pretty normal) but even more so if your on WiFi or data too.
Any phone gets hot while playing games and charging at the same time... The nexus 6 is actually pretty good with its heat compared to other Nexus phones.
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Any phone gets hot while playing games and charging at the same time... The nexus 6 is actually pretty good with its heat compared to other Nexus phones.
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Bro i wasnt charging and playing at the same time. When charging i keep the phone aside. Then it gets hot. Even while playing 10 mims of candy crush it gets upto 42 degrees celcius of the battery.
I had heat issues at first. I'm assuming all the app restoring I was doing was the culprit. I did decrypt my phone the very next day and it runs pretty cool
I bought a xiaomi mi 9 phone a few days ago, I found on the internet that the battery in the phone should reach low temperatures. I would like you to check if they are normal.
When playing not only demanding games, the battery quickly reaches a temperature of about 38 degrees Celsius.
During normal internet browsing, the battery reaches about 36 degrees.
While watching Youtube the battery reaches 33 degrees.
Sometimes these temperatures are lower. I care about the assessment because I want to finally take care of the phone. Thank you for your help and sorry for poor english.
If you want our opinions on whether those temperatures are acceptable or not, you have to also share the ambient temperature.
38 C should be normal for 23-24C ambient, don't be fooled by some supposedly "light" games that are badly optimized and eat the battery alive causing heating, just because a game is 2D doesn't mean it consumes less battery.
36 C for "normal internet browsing" seems too much, I get way less at 23-24 ambient, not more than 30 C.
33 C for youtube is fine especially if the videos are bright with sound turned on.
The ambient temperature is about 22-23 degrees, maybe a little more. Unfortunately I don't have a thermometer inside the house. Now while browsing the internet, the temperature was between 31.5-32 degrees.
Usually the screen brightness is set to half the bar or slightly more than half.
Are you sure your battery have this temperatures? Sounds like the cpu for me instead.
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I am 100% sure. Are these temperatures good or should I give my phone back for warranty?
I will add that I always charge the phone from 30% to 85%, apparently so there are less charging cycles.
When charging, the battery reaches a temperature of 36-37 degrees.
I never charge it at night. When I was sleeping, the battery level dropped from 30% to 26%, that's ok, right?
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I am 100% sure. Are these temperatures good or should I give my phone back for warranty?
I will add that I always charge the phone from 30% to 85%, apparently so there are less charging cycles.
When charging, the battery reaches a temperature of 36-37 degrees.
I never charge it at night. When I was sleeping, the battery level dropped from 30% to 26%, that's ok, right?
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Hmm thats a strange behaviour. My battery has 27 to 30 degrees at charging. Im checking with aida64.
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I found the characteristics at the link:
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/326f9d/10
Temperatures look similar, how do you rate my temperatures? Should I care?
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Could any of you do a stress test from antutu? I put my results below. Next to it is the battery temperature right after the test, which reaches almost 40 degrees Celsius. I will add that I have a case from xiaomi.
By setting up the pubg with maximum graphics the device is warming up to almost 70 degrees celsius, it gets very hot on top of the rear cameras, even more on the right side of the headphone jack in the case and on the screen glass if you touch the lips on the screen glass realize that it is very hot.
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By setting up the pubg with maximum graphics the device is warming up to almost 70 degrees celsius, it gets very hot on top of the rear cameras, even more on the right side of the headphone jack in the case and on the screen glass if you touch the lips on the screen glass realize that it is very hot.
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Device is not heating up to 70°C, CPU does. Device is heating to temperature just a little bit higher than battery temperature which is on your screenshot 42°C. Those temperatures are normal when you put powerful chipset like sd855 on high stress for longer period of time.
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Device is not heating up to 70°C, CPU does. Device is heating to temperature just a little bit higher than battery temperature which is on your screenshot 42°C. Those temperatures are normal when you put powerful chipset like sd855 on high stress for longer period of time.
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Just over 1 minute the device reaches this temperature leaving the screen very hot, I have Mi 9 and is no more than 60 Celsius, this device is not normal.
Gabriel Martins said:
Just over 1 minute the device reaches this temperature leaving the screen very hot, I have Mi 9 and is no more than 60 Celsius, this device is not normal.
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Return it to seller.
Can anyone with the device take a test?
CPU does touch 65+ in HDR+60fps for me but as long as battery temps are <44 everything is good!
Do remember to take off any case/cover while gaming & not playing while charging too.
nakulp said:
CPU does touch 65+ in HDR+60fps for me but as long as battery temps are <44 everything is good!
Do remember to take off any case/cover while gaming & not playing while charging too.
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The point is that the CPU is over 70C °, the rear camera, housing and screen next to the headset are very hot, I feel it in my hand and fingers, it bothers you a lot, high temperatures can burn the screen.
My Mi 9 is no more than 60C °.
Gabriel Martins said:
The point is that the CPU is over 70C °, the rear camera, housing and screen next to the headset are very hot, I feel it in my hand and fingers, it bothers you a lot, high temperatures can burn the screen.
My Mi 9 is no more than 60C °.
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I told you that heating so fast is not normal. You have faulty device and return it to seller. You can use google or youtube and you'll see that no one get that temperatures so fast like you do. Here is example: https://youtu.be/C9jSZ4JR0qo?t=1
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I told you that heating so fast is not normal. You have faulty device and return it to seller. You can use google or youtube and you'll see that no one get that temperatures so fast like you do. Here is example: https://youtu.be/C9jSZ4JR0qo?t=1
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First of all he is measuring wrong with inexpensive and inaccurate equipment that is not even for checking the temperature of a human being. There is a right place to measure the temperature and not the way it is doing, I did the correct tests and this device has a low quality screen and a poorly positioned graphite heatsink.
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First of all he is measuring wrong with inexpensive and inaccurate equipment that is not even for checking the temperature of a human being. There is a right place to measure the temperature and not the way it is doing, I did the correct tests and this device has a low quality screen and a poorly positioned graphite heatsink.
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I just choose that youtube video randomly, you can ignore it if you don't trust it but you have 1000 other Mi 9T Pro/K20 Pro reviews and youtube videos where you can see that this devise doesn't overheat fast like you say. You wrote: "Just over 1 minute the device reaches this temperature leaving the screen very hot" and I'm telling you that this is not normal and that your device is faulty and for the third time I'm writing you to return it to seller. This is the end of this stupid discussion for me and I won't comment on it anymore. You could use google in the first place to see how this device reacts under stress and you could see that this device doesn't have the best cooling but it also doesn't have the worst. Bye.
guys ... if you can`t keep it civil then you better stop here if you don`t want to have one more problem apart from the one with your device
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Hello. I bought this device and is too hot in idle or social networks Use.... Not on gaming (saint seiya awakening) or full charge situations. I think I should change the unit.
In this moment, the cpu is 42°C. And I am not using nothing. Just posting this vía Chrome.
No overheating for me
I don't know how hot it is in your countries, but at idle, my phone is always on 39°C/40°C (ambient temperature at 27°C-32°C), when I'm playing CoD mobile at max settings it barely reaches 50°C. I think it's fine considering that it's an intensive game.
Same issue with my device
Using k20 pro for last 5 months and now when I connect it to charger cpu temperature is going upto 65 to 70 deg. The battery temp is 37 to 45 . Only this happens when charger connected. Using original charger and cables and Xiaomi powerbank. Tried with changing cables and charger still same issue .
K20 pro getting heated while using camera
I have a major problem which i have never ever faced in any other device .
While using CAMERA , my device gets heated in 10-15 minutes and due to this increased temperature of device its very hard to use it.
A pop up message shows - " your device is over heated " and the camera gets closed automatically.