Hi All,
I just returned empty handed from the Samsung store at the mall. I wanted to pick up the Samsung s20 FE dual sim. I need dual sim. I was told by the sales person that they only carry the single sim in the store. I asked him if he could pop the sim tray from a sample s20 FE and showed me that it only tales a sim and a SD card. Then he said that you can only get dual sim when ordering online.
I just when online and don't see a dual sim option.
So is it true that Samsung makes single sim models and a dual sim model?
Thanks in advance for your response.
pvaldeben said:
Hi All,
I just returned empty handed from the Samsung store at the mall. I wanted to pick up the Samsung s20 FE dual sim. I need dual sim. I was told by the sales person that they only carry the single sim in the store. I asked him if he could pop the sim tray from a sample s20 FE and showed me that it only tales a sim and a SD card. Then he said that you can only get dual sim when ordering online.
I just when online and don't see a dual sim option.
So is it true that Samsung makes single sim models and a dual sim model?
Thanks in advance for your response.
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Yes, it's true. When you say you went online and didn't see a dual-SIM option, do you mean you went to Samsung USA (as it appears you're located in the States)? Samsung USA (or anywhere in North America) doesn't offer a dual-SIM model. What the sales rep meant was you have to go online to buy an international, dual-SIM variant of the S20 FE, of which there are several.
jtOttawa said:
Yes, it's true. When you say you went online and didn't see a dual-SIM option, do you mean you went to Samsung USA (as it appears you're located in the States)? Samsung USA (or anywhere in North America) doesn't offer a dual-SIM model. What the sales rep meant was you have to go online to buy an international, dual-SIM variant of the S20 FE, of which there are several.
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Thanks for the reply looks like I will have to start looking at Oneplus again because I already have a dual sim setup on my oneplus 6t works excellent but wanted something with better camera and able to record calls.
I already tried the Pixel 5 or about 2 weeks but had to return due to all the short coming on dual sim. I was not able to set a separate ring tone for each sim and there is not way to setup call record.
So I'll keep looking for solutions.
pvaldeben said:
Thanks for the reply looks like I will have to start looking at Oneplus again because I already have a dual sim setup on my oneplus 6t works excellent but wanted something with better camera and able to record calls.
I already tried the Pixel 5 or about 2 weeks but had to return due to all the short coming on dual sim. I was not able to set a separate ring tone for each sim and there is not way to setup call record.
So I'll keep looking for solutions.
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I actually quite like Samsung's dual-SIM phones - partly because I am used to Samsung's ecosystem, and partly because of their dual-SIM features. I currently have a dual-SIM S9+, and I plan to get a dual-SIM S20 FE myself. I don't think any of them have native call recording though - but of course there are apps for that.
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Hi there,
This might be done to death but here goes - i currently have a single sim Three (unlocked) that has the exynos chipset, since i go over to the states alot, i want to get myself a dual sim Note 8 so i can use an American number with my UK number without having to annoyingly keep switching over or have 2 different phones.
Obviously dual sim means no microSD, so far i only seen Eqynos variant 64gb but elsewhere seen a Snapdragon variant 128gb which is tons more useful, in real life usage (especially coming from a S7 Edge) will i see much of a difference? Has Snapdragon caught up nowdays?
Also how easy isit without tripping anything that will disable Samsung/Android Pay to flash Carrier (Three) onto my unbranded Note 8? Mainly if i get rid of Three Note 8 phone, i lose access to 4G Super Voice which kinda sucks.
Thanks for the help
Obviously dual sim means no microSD,
Not obviously, you can DIY your SD card, just combine your SIM and SD to one, please do search, it's working well.
Thanks.
I was in the same dilema as uk samsung only sell the 64gb dual sim. Went and bought the 256gb sn9500.... no problems at all. Even using samsung pay without issue.
It is dumb that they won't allow more Ryan 64gb for uk market.
Also using the dual sim and sd card.... is probably a bit risky as the sim tray is so flimsy.
I used dual sim and sd on my axon 7 without issue... but the note 8 i think will be a bit risky.
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Hi all,
I've signed up for a note 9 plan since my new job allows allowance for work mobile. However the sim tray is not hybrid at all(the second sim slot can only for micro sd card) . I've managed to cut the SIM so that it fits into the second slot, however unable to get this to work.
The SIM works fine if it's plugged into sim 1 slot. Has anyone got any solutions to this? Any input would be appreciated
uggies said:
Hi all,
I've signed up for a note 9 plan since my new job allows allowance for work mobile. However the sim tray is not hybrid at all(the second sim slot can only for micro sd card) . I've managed to cut the SIM so that it fits into the second slot, however unable to get this to work.
The SIM works fine if it's plugged into sim 1 slot. Has anyone got any solutions to this? Any input would be appreciated
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Sounds like you device is of the single-SIM variety.
Even if you bought a dual-SIM Tray to use,it will be of no benefit,you have a single-SIM phone.
Flashing firmware that works on known dual SIM phones will not do it either,many have tried various things,the functionality simply isn't there (presumably a hardware issue,it's simply not there).
FWIW,I tried a dual-SIM Tray on my US (T-Mobile Note 9),& nada. I knew what to expect going in,but,had to quash the slight bit of false hope.
The Exynos single SIM Note 9's are the same.
KOLIOSIS said:
Sounds like you device is of the single-SIM variety.
Even if you bought a dual-SIM Tray to use,it will be of no benefit,you have a single-SIM phone.
Flashing firmware that works on known dual SIM phones will not do it either,many have tried various things,the functionality simply isn't there (presumably a hardware issue,it's simply not there).
FWIW,I tried a dual-SIM Tray on my US (T-Mobile Note 9),& nada. I knew what to expect going in,but,had to quash the slight bit of false hope.
The Exynos single SIM Note 9's are the same.
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That's quite disappointing, it was one of the reasons why I got Samsung phone after all..
All of Samsung's Webpage indicates that all note 9s are capable of dual SIM functionality. I guess I should have double checked with Telco to see if they have locked the Dual SIM functionality..
Appreciate your input tho man. Cheers
uggies said:
That's quite disappointing, it was one of the reasons why I got Samsung phone after all..
All of Samsung's Webpage indicates that all note 9s are capable of dual SIM functionality....
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I've never seen anything stating all Note 9's are capable of Dual-SIM functionality, but, I'm in the US, where Dual-SIM phones are the exception vs the single SIM variety.
The only phone that I'm aware of that has Dual-SIM capabilities, but, ships with both Single-Sim and Dual-SIM firmwares is the OnePlus 6T.
You could try a Dual-SIM tray & flashing a SIM-Free firmware that's known to work on Dual-SIM phones to find out with certainty.
The trays are cheap enough, I got mine from eBay for less than $10 USD.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but honesty, I'd keep my expectations low.
Please keep us posted on your outcome.
Hey folks, I live in Canada, but I wanted a Dual-Sim variant of this model so bad. (5G Snapdragon variant). Samsung Canada and BH-Photo are giving a lot of discrepancy information regarding the SM-G780U overall specs.
I don't know if anyone can confirm to me whether SM-G780U or SM-G780F has dual sim? Or if your phone has Dual Sim and is a 5G Snapdragon variant, what model is it?
The Tech Chap from Youtube mentioned in a hands-on video that his 5G SD variant is a dual sim (at 3:10 of the clip), but he never says the model variant . No other reviewer mention dual-sim so far.
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Hey folks, I live in Canada, but I wanted a Dual-Sim variant of this model so bad. (5G Snapdragon variant). Samsung Canada and BH-Photo are giving a lot of discrepancy information regarding the SM-G780U overall specs.
I don't know if anyone can confirm to me whether SM-G780U or SM-G780F has dual sim? Or if your phone has Dual Sim and is a 5G Snapdragon variant, what model is it?
The Tech Chap from Youtube mentioned in a hands-on video that his 5G SD variant is a dual sim (at 3:10 of the clip), but he never says the model variant . No other reviewer mention dual-sim so far.
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I'm in Canada too, and waiting on the dual-SIM variant myself. Dual-SIM models will indicate dual-SIM, and no North American models (e.g., SM-G780U) will be dual-SIM, if past practice is any indication. There is usually a dual-SIM variant of the Global (F) model - but if it's not indicated as dual-SIM, it isn't. I'm actually hopeful that the HK model will be dual-SIM and 256 GB storage, like the HK Note20 Ultra - but time will tell.
Today I discovered that at Amazon Germany and Amazon France, the variant SM-G780F being offered by Amazon seems to have Dual Sim. Samsung UK also offer SM-G780F which is a dual-sim variant.
jtOttawa said:
I'm in Canada too, and waiting on the dual-SIM variant myself. Dual-SIM models will indicate dual-SIM, and no North American models (e.g., SM-G780U) will be dual-SIM, if past practice is any indication. There is usually a dual-SIM variant of the Global (F) model - but if it's not indicated as dual-SIM, it isn't. I'm actually hopeful that the HK model will be dual-SIM and 256 GB storage, like the HK Note20 Ultra - but time will tell.
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Looks like it might not have 256 GB of storage, but it might have 8 GB of RAM (other listings of the S20 FE have been wrong about this as we know, so this will have to be verified). Still, at least it is Snapdragon, 5G and dual-SIM: https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung...0-lte-mobile-phone-sim-free-and-unlocked.html
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QuietZebra said:
Today I discovered that at Amazon Germany and Amazon France, the variant SM-G780F being offered by Amazon seems to have Dual Sim. Samsung UK also offer SM-G780F which is a dual-sim variant.
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If 5G is not that important to you, and you don't mind getting the Exynos version, they are available on EBay: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Samsung-Gal...48958b212ec9c7a63aa2|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2334524
Unfortunately, the whole point of me getting a Samsung S20 FE was to get Snapdragon with Dual Sim. For the entire S20 and Note 20 Samsung line, only HK edition has SD and Dual Sim. I'm still waiting for confirmation but it seems SM-G781B is also a dual Sim variant.
QuietZebra said:
Unfortunately, the whole point of me getting a Samsung S20 FE was to get Snapdragon with Dual Sim. For the entire S20 and Note 20 Samsung line, only HK edition has SD and Dual Sim. I'm still waiting for confirmation but it seems SM-G781B is also a dual Sim variant.
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Why unfortunately? It sounds like the HK version is the way to go - in fact, I had ordered a HK Note20 Ultra but cancelled it as I couldn't justify the price (and that price continues to drop).
I have UK device, SM-G781B/DS and it's dual sim, 5G, Snapdragon.
flibblesan said:
I have UK device, SM-G781B/DS and it's dual sim, 5G, Snapdragon.
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Good to know! You mean two physical nano SIMs? And have you tested the 5G on both SIMs?
My USA s20 fe claims its a dual sim version in settings but its not so keep that in mind when buying your phone. The model lists itself as a SM-G781U1/DS
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My USA s20 fe claims its a dual sim version in settings but its not so keep that in mind when buying your phone. The model lists itself as a SM-G781U1/DS
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Ah, I see what you mean - it shows that model number, but there is no SIM Card Manager, or dual-SIM capability - correct?
jtOttawa said:
Good to know! You mean two physical nano SIMs? And have you tested the 5G on both SIMs?
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Yes, it has a hybrid SIM tray that takes two nano SIMs or one nano SIM and a micro SD card. 5G works on either card.
So, after many frustrating hours on the phone with different Samsung agents who insisted that the US S21 Ultra supports eSIM (but couldn't get it to work), one agent finally admitted that eSIM is not enabled "as of now". This is despite the fact that Samsung expressly promised eSIM functionality on their US website:
"Does Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G support eSIM?
Yes, you can use an electronic SIM, known as eSIM, with Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G. The eSIM allows you to activate a mobile network plan right on your phone, so you can switch data plans or add an overseas phone number without the physical Nano SIM."
https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s21-ultra-5g/#!
As of this post, the above Q&A is still on Samsung's US website. Isn't this blatant fraud? Where can I file a complaint?
While I am still within the return window, simply getting a refund isn't good enough as I already paid money to my carrier to convert my physical SIM into an eSIM in anticipation of being able to use it with my S 21 Ultra.
Until the carriers enable the eSim they will not work. It has been disabled or not enable from all US carriers for a reason. No one knows exactly why. My guess is compatibility, or issues arising. Who knows. It is supposed to be enabled but no set date has ever been given. The same thing happened with the Note and s20. As much as I would love the eSim support is just won't happen for a bit.
Also do note if you scroll down it does say "The Galaxy S21 does not currently support eSim in the U.S."
I am not sure why people seriously keep falling for the eSim instead of reading the several post regarding it in the previous years posts.
jeremyvbk said:
Until the carriers enable the eSim they will not work. It has been disabled or not enable from all US carriers for a reason. No one knows exactly why. My guess is compatibility, or issues arising. Who knows. It is supposed to be enabled but no set date has ever been given. The same thing happened with the Note and s20. As much as I would love the eSim support is just won't happen for a bit.
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That logic doesn't make sense when it comes to the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung's website. Also my eSIM is from an international carrier and not a US carrier, and it works on my previous Samsung device (bought in Asia).
jeremyvbk said:
Also do note if you scroll down it does say "The Galaxy S21 does not currently support eSim in the U.S."
I am not sure why people seriously keep falling for the eSim instead of reading the several post regarding it in the previous years posts.
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They changed it a few days after the launch. The previous Q&A was as shown in my quote above. I scrolled through the website carefully (including reading the endnotes) and there was no such caveat previously.
Also, I am new to the US and was not aware of this issue previously. I have used Samsung devices in Asia for many years and never had this issue. I'm not sure why US customers put up with this blatant fraud if it is happening each time.
draykin said:
That logic doesn't make sense when it comes to the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung's website. Also my eSIM is from an international carrier and not a US carrier, and it works on my previous Samsung device (bought in Asia).
They changed it a few days after the launch. The previous Q&A was as shown in my quote above. I scrolled through the website carefully (including reading the endnotes) and there was no such caveat previously.
Also, I am new to the US and was not aware of this issue previously. I have used Samsung devices in Asia for many years and never had this issue. I'm not sure why US customers put up with this blatant fraud if it is happening each time.
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Because the unlocked version has to work with those carriers, and having esim support turned on could lead to more issues than what is currently out there. Samsung has disabled it so you don't have droves of people going to carriers saying service doesn't work when the carriers haven't supported the phones for eSim. Because those carriers will send you right back to Samsung for warranty exchanges. Costing Samsung money.
The phones do support eSim. It is no different than the phones disabling bands depending on csc. Also the US unlocked versions apply the csc based on the carrier, also why the eSim is disabled. Its not fraud. The information isn't fraud
jeremyvbk said:
Until the carriers enable the eSim they will not work. It has been disabled or not enable from all US carriers for a reason. No one knows exactly why. My guess is compatibility, or issues arising. Who knows. It is supposed to be enabled but no set date has ever been given. The same thing happened with the Note and s20. As much as I would love the eSim support is just won't happen for a bit.
Also do note if you scroll down it does say "The Galaxy S21 does not currently support eSim in the U.S."
I am not sure why people seriously keep falling for the eSim instead of reading the several post regarding it in the previous years posts.
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Does it mean s21 ultra supports esim?
works on mine - Vodafone UK - been with an esim since s20 and now also on s21
makes no difference really to being on a sim or e-sim
jacklivehere said:
Does it mean s21 ultra supports esim?
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All of the phones support it but have it disabled on purpose because the carriers do not support it. Its like the S21 supports N71 and band 71 but on ATT CSC those bands are disabled.
jeremyvbk said:
All of the phones support it but have it disabled on purpose because the carriers do not support it. Its like the S21 supports N71 and band 71 but on ATT CSC those bands are disabled.
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The Samsung website quoted above only says s21 and s21 plus doesn't support esim. Doesn't say about s21 ultra
jacklivehere said:
The Samsung website quoted above only says s21 and s21 plus doesn't support esim. Doesn't say about s21 ultra
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They are saying you can't use them in the US. The devices have the hardware already included in the devices. They are disabled. The same with the Ultra, as it has been the same for the last years worth of phones
Same in canada. Its been a coming soon with an update feature for years now. Another small thing I miss about my pixel.
I wonder if this is why i can not get my s21 U to take an upgraded T mobile sim. I have been trying since Friday to get the Upgraded network sim from T mobile to install on my phone. I had been on sprint and since the merger last year my sprint connections had been getting progressively worse as the year went on - dropped calls and phone going into roaming mode at home for example, I had a note 10+ i traded in for the s21U and about 3 weeks ago was able to ditch the old sprint sim for the new t mobile one on the note and what a difference ! So anyway, i have been into a t mobile store a couple time and they could not get the t mobile sim to activate, and called sprint a couple times to try and activate it and they could not either but was finally able to active a sprint sim which i dont want. They had said that my s21 was not for some reason compatible with the new t mobile sim. I got the 512gb S21 ultra unlocked direct from samsung.
Disabled esim...
Is it because Samsung is weak compared to Apple or Google? Can't stand up to US carriers?
They can't say it is not compatible with carriers when Apple already went through the motions and is not compatible with all the carriers. They could have used this excuse two phones ago but for us to be having this discussion now is uncalled for. I'm returning this crap now until Samsung stops committing this fraud on its customers and gets its act together.
thdaddy34 said:
They can't say it is not compatible with carriers when Apple already went through the motions and is not compatible with all the carriers. They could have used this excuse two phones ago but for us to be having this discussion now is uncalled for. I'm returning this crap now until Samsung stops committing this fraud on its customers and gets its act together.
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Agreed!
NasTraDooMis said:
I wonder if this is why i can not get my s21 U to take an upgraded T mobile sim. I have been trying since Friday to get the Upgraded network sim from T mobile to install on my phone. I had been on sprint and since the merger last year my sprint connections had been getting progressively worse as the year went on - dropped calls and phone going into roaming mode at home for example, I had a note 10+ i traded in for the s21U and about 3 weeks ago was able to ditch the old sprint sim for the new t mobile one on the note and what a difference ! So anyway, i have been into a t mobile store a couple time and they could not get the t mobile sim to activate, and called sprint a couple times to try and activate it and they could not either but was finally able to active a sprint sim which i dont want. They had said that my s21 was not for some reason compatible with the new t mobile sim. I got the 512gb S21 ultra unlocked direct from samsung.
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My S21 Ultra works fine with the T-Mobile R15 SIM. To be fair, though, I think I might have activated it on my iPhone 12 Pro Max first and then just dropped it in the S21 Ultra. I don't remember now. But it should work.
It pays off to do some research before dropping a stack of cash on a smartphone. All this fuss over eSIM. Carrier's in the US don't want to give their subscribers the option to switch Service Provider's, they lose money. Same reason no Dual-Sim devices are offered by US Carriers. Samsung could lean on them to enable eSIM but for whatever reason they won't. Simple solution, buy a Non-US S21 Ultra Dual Nano-SIM device.
Hi, in Russia e-sim it works perfectly on all operators( carriers). Its very strange why in US you have this problem.
varcor said:
It pays off to do some research before dropping a stack of cash on a smartphone. All this fuss over eSIM. Carrier's in the US don't want to give their subscribers the option to switch Service Provider's, they lose money. Same reason no Dual-Sim devices are offered by US Carriers. Samsung could lean on them to enable eSIM but for whatever reason they won't. Simple solution, buy a Non-US S21 Ultra Dual Nano-SIM device.
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It's true except for the fact that if you want 5G in the US, the non-US dual sim samsung devices don't have the appropriate bands for it. So you get dual sim but no US 5G.
I confirm esim working in S21 Ultra Snapdragon SM-G998U1 in Android 12 Colombia Bogota but keep in mind that in Colombia the esim only works with movistar
Can I put a dual SIM tray into
S21 ultra Australian version
perrystam said:
Can I put a dual SIM tray into
S21 ultra Australian version
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It is supposed to be an Exynos and they usually are Dual sim. However, I have encountered Korean exynos phones with only one sim card. Thus, you need to provide more information so we can give you a more definitive answer...
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It is supposed to be an Exynos and they usually are Dual sim. However, I have encountered Korean exynos phones with only one sim card. Thus, you need to provide more information so we can give you a more definitive answer...
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The phone did come originally with one SIM card and 1 esim I put in a dual sim tray can I get it to read 2 physical sim cards any advice whould be appreciated thank you
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perrystam said:
The phone did come originally with one SIM card and 1 esim I put in a dual sim tray can I get it to read 2 physical sim cards any advice whould be appreciated thank you
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I doubt it bud... Even if the hardware would support it by having the sim tray capability, the software would have to be specifically adjusted for the situation. And seeing how small the alternative development is for the s21 Ultra, I doubt it will get to the point of significant progress..
Some time ago I had gotten a Note 9 from a friend, and since I had an S9+, I thought the note 9 would be a nice upgrade. Only to realize that since it is a Korean Note 9, it only supported 1 SIM. I seeked the internet quite a bit and found nothing relevant. I also asked around the forums but to no avail. Gave the Note to the wife, it replaced her 1 sim S7, so everyone is happy hahaha
If you do find a solution eventually, do remember to write it here, it may surely help others with the same issue as you.
Good luck!
The first step is to check if physically there are 2 sets of contractors to read 2 sim cards but that means to open the phone. Software shouldn't be an issue it handles 2 physical sim in other variants
I bought a dual-sim tray for my S21 Ultra US version - I can confirm that at least the tray fits It wouldn't read my SafariCom sim though :-/
Not sure what model the Australian S21 are but if it ends with the letter B(G998B) then you can try switching the CSC to XTC and try again.
While there's only 1 sim card originally it should still have 2 IMEI numbers because of the e-SIM so logically switching CSCs should work.
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SM-G998B is a Single Physical SIM variant with e-Sim. The SM-G998B/DS has Dual Physical SIM's so based on what you've shared the answer is no.
Does the Australian version have any differences?
I believe only the Chinese variant supports two physical dual sims.
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I believe only the Chinese variant supports two physical dual sims.
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The Indian version supports dual physical SIMs too. I'm using them on mine.
I bought mine in Spain and is a SM-G998B/DS and I am using 2 physical Sim cards, both working.
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The Indian version supports dual physical SIMs too. I'm using them on mine.
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Indeed. For some reason I thought he wanted a physical dual sim snapdragon variant.