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Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter (Novelsys ampere) in January for the Nexus 6. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine what features to incorporate in this app:
Display estimated battery life in hrs of phone and ampere
Control when charging starts
find your phone or ampere when one is missing
notifications to recharge at time or location
What other features would you like to see? I've recently posted in the S5 and Nexus 5 forums too, and I've been told not to dilute the product, which I agree with heartily. These are the features I've narrowed it down to. What other things do you think we need to bake in? It will probably be open to developers post-Kickstarter.
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own.
See more about the product: http://kickstarter.novelsys.co
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Okay so this is meant to protect the phone and charge it at the same time? Im assuming there is a battery inside the case as well as a qi transmitter?
That's right. Paired with an app. And higher build quality than from your typical Qi charger. What do you think about the idea?
Subscribed as well...if you need a beta tester let me know.
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Looks excellent, but you need to figure out a solution to why sleeves suck, they either have no top and don't hold the phone well or are too tight.
As long as it comes in black so I can keep it on with my uniform!
I'll beta if I need to as well!
Would you like my wallet now, or later?
Seriously, I hope this will be as good as it sounds.
Yes its black, and the internal colour has been changed from orange to grey so its more suitable for corporate environments!
That's an interesting perspective on sleeves. Yes will take that into account when testing.
aiight, im jumping on the bandwagon too. :fingers-crossed:
just subb'ed and am following you cats on instagram...
I think I'm getting a QI enabled power bank for Christmas..... But a sleeve makes much more sense! I think its a great idea. Definitely more secure and will keep the QI aligned to ensure it stays charging.
Any info about the mah of the sleeve for the Nexus 6. Would need to be enough to charge the device at least twice in my opinion.
What about a using magnets to help secure the phone inside the sleeve instead of just tension?
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honestly seems like a pretty good idea, the potential problems I see for this are targeting the correct consumer base. The phone is already big, this will make it huge, therefore its not going in anyones pocket. So, who carries phones around not in a pocket? People that have other places to put them, who has other places to put them?
1. Women (in their purse)
2. Older executives in a briefcase maybe?
3. College kids who might carry a backpack?
I may be wrong, but as much as I would like something like this, its just too inconvenient not to have my phone in my pocket. There's still some clip phone people out there, maybe adding a clip would help? Just my 2 cents, love the idea, just concerned its not being designed for the right demographic aesthetically.
The problem for me as others have mentioned is the bulkiness of the sleeve. When you add in the 3,000mah battery (assuming it would at least be this size) and coils for qi charging it's going to pretty thick. I'm Ok with that because this would be on my visor in my work truck, but wouldn't go great in pocket.
if you are taking the no idea is a bad idea approach, what if you incorporated this into a car mount with the display revealed, so every day I got into my car I could slide it in, and it would charge, then I could slide it out and take it with me, or if I KNEW i was going to need extra battery, I could detach the whole thing and clip it to a belt or throw it in a pack?
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if you are taking the no idea is a bad idea approach, what if you incorporated this into a car mount with the display revealed, so every day I got into my car I could slide it in, and it would charge, then I could slide it out and take it with me, or if I KNEW i was going to need extra battery, I could detach the whole thing and clip it to a belt or throw it in a pack?
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Agree with this idea!
I don't mean to intercept, but in the meantime and between time...
I've received this pouch/sleeve (handmade) and posted a bit about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57285596&postcount=42
This pouch/sleeve has a front pocket and I slid in one of the Fone Qi Stone+ wireless portable chargers I use in that pouch and boom! Portable charging on the go.
Very cool idea man. I'll back that.
It looks promising, is there rough price range for the sleeve?
ejkeebler said:
if you are taking the no idea is a bad idea approach, what if you incorporated this into a car mount with the display revealed, so every day I got into my car I could slide it in, and it would charge, then I could slide it out and take it with me, or if I KNEW i was going to need extra battery, I could detach the whole thing and clip it to a belt or throw it in a pack?
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That's a pretty sweet idea! Maybe that could come as a stretch goal or in the next iteration of ampere. I originally included a pocket at the back of the sleeve for cards and cash but didn't like the aesthetics/ bulk of it. That could actually have been space for a belt clip. Hmm. I could find some way to hack around it maybe.... thanks for the brilliant idea.
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I've received this pouch/sleeve (handmade) and posted a bit about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57285596&postcount=42
This pouch/sleeve has a front pocket and I slid in one of the Fone Qi Stone+ wireless portable chargers I use in that pouch and boom! Portable charging on the go.
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Please, feel free to share. I've been searching tirelessly for potential competitors too so I can learn how to improve ampere's user experience.
You know what, that's where I got the idea for ampere too, but I think I've made ampere sufficiently sexy, slim, and seamless with alignment + smart charging app that you'll at least consider it over that? If you must know, that was what I put together for the MVP (prototype) to prove product validation. So I guess you can say you just recreated ampere v1.
Pilz said:
It looks promising, is there rough price range for the sleeve?
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Too soon to say. Saving the reveal for Kickstarter. Trust you understand
kkl0wn said:
I think I'm getting a QI enabled power bank for Christmas..... But a sleeve makes much more sense! I think its a great idea. Definitely more secure and will keep the QI aligned to ensure it stays charging.
Any info about the mah of the sleeve for the Nexus 6. Would need to be enough to charge the device at least twice in my opinion.
What about a using magnets to help secure the phone inside the sleeve instead of just tension?
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I thought about magnets too, but the sleeve itself helps with securing the phone and alignment. Magnets would make it harder to get the phone out of the sleeve, and would necessitate some kind of strap to lift the phone out, which in turn adds some to bulk.
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Too soon to say. Saving the reveal for Kickstarter. Trust you understand
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I completely understand, either way it looks like a nice idea, and a convenient way to charge your phone.
Aerios makes the best Smartwatch Docks, IMHO. I ordered it and the package arrived today. Just a few days after ordering. I'm in the USA and they are in Australia. It was shipped FedEx Express. Keep in mind, the amount shown on the web site is Australian Dollars, not US Dollars. So do the conversion, and the dock + shipping probably costs far less for most of you. Don't let the displayed price give you sticker shock .
The dock comes in a nice box, with an additional 3 foot charge cable. Either the supplied cable or another can be used. The hole in the dock for a microUSB is big enough for any I have ever seen. But the supplied one fits the most snug and fills the full whole. In the photos, I'm using a Blackberry MicroUSB charger.
Far as types they offer. Although they have Black with Walnut and Silver with Oak, the Silver with Oak is the only one in stock today.
The bottom of the dock, has a pad with a plastic cover. If you remove the plastic, there is sticky stuff on the bottom, in case you want to hold the dock in place on a desk. You have to supply your own round charger dock, to insert in the wooden circular cut out, and you need your own USB power plug to use with the cable.
I've attached many pictures, which I hope tell the story best.
I'll be happy to answer any questions.
I also received mine yesterday, really a quality product! The only issue I have is that my leather (closed) watch strap is a little too stiff and a too heavy: it "pushes" the watch a little away from the pins ... so I guess I have to manually modify the stand (top and bottom chamfered) in order to keep my watch connected. Do you also experience that problem?
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I also received mine yesterday, really a quality product! The only issue I have is that my leather (closed) watch strap is a little too stiff and a too heavy: it "pushes" the watch a little away from the pins ... so I guess I have to manually modify the stand (top and bottom chamfered) in order to keep my watch connected. Do you also experience that problem?
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See the strap in the photos showing my watch. I replaced the strap.
I've never been a real "fan" of LG's pin charger dock. I've had issues positioning things right, even on a flat surface. It takes a moment to position things "just right" in the Aerios dock, but it looks so sweet once in place. I don't blame Aerios, since I had issues with positioning before getting their dock. My strap does not cause the watch to fall off though. The stock leather strap is a bit heavier. Just make sure you position things well. I would not buy a new strap just to test if it works better if I were you.
I just got Wear Charging Widget and it looks really nice on the dock. Also, here's a related article about the widget. It is the only thing I've found that keeps the watch showing anything the entire time it is charging.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I just got Wear Charging Widget and it looks really nice on the dock. Also, here's a related article about the widget. It is the only thing I've found that keeps the watch showing anything the entire time it is charging.
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Just got my silver version in. Ordered earlier this week and just got it today. FAST from AUS to TX, USA!! I think the shipping alone cost a good penny lol. For my take....the stand is very very well done. I also picked up the shapeways one last month. And to compare, this one is much more polished but because I use a lot of third party watch bands on my LG G Watch, the current band kind of pushes the lg dock charger out a bit. Whereas the one I have at home has a deeper cavity to house the lg charger and the angle on this is a tad too vertical. I need to grab some double sided tape to hold into place.
I have my Brembo stick that works a bit better for $20 bux lol. But doesn't look as good lol. Do I like it? Yes, would I recommend it? for $60 bux shipped, I want to say...I'm on the border on this. If you like the look of it, then go for it. I am ok with it. It somewhat matches my desk a bit at work. But I would recommend the Shapeways one for sure. I use that every night without issue.
Im looking for a holster, i found some but most have a magnetic closure. Im not sure if its ok for our phones so i just wantes your thoughts or experience with it. I use samsung pay every day and i dont want any sensor to be off because of the magnets.
Maybe im a little paranoid over it because it probably takes an extremely powerful magnet to cause any harm but im not willing to test it out lol
None of the magnetic items for the phones will cause any harm to your phone.
You may notice that the stylus doesn't work where the magnet is, but it will work just fine when you move the magnet.
As a Samsung Experience Consultant, I do not recommend anything magnetic, I think they mess with the device internals.
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As a Samsung Experience Consultant, I do not recommend anything magnetic, I think they mess with the device internals.
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You do know many manufacturers use magnets in their devices and accessories, including Samsung and Apple, right? Every Apple smart case / cover utilizes magnets and (as much as I love Android) I can honestly think of no more reliable tablet than the iPad.
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As a Samsung Experience Consultant, I do not recommend anything magnetic, I think they mess with the device internals.
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You think or you know?
You should only be putting out info if you know. If you don't know, and it is clear you don't, then you should not speak on a subject.
Magnets will in no way harm the phone unless you are using super powerful magnets, what you use to hold the phone to a dock and things like that won't bother it in the least bit.
I do not recommend any of the Samsung Flip Cases to customers because I have seen them cause problems with devices before. I do not recommend magnetic closures because I have seen them cause problems with devices.
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You think or you know?
You should only be putting out info if you know. If you don't know, and it is clear you don't, then you should not speak on a subject.
Magnets will in no way harm the phone unless you are using super powerful magnets, what you use to hold the phone to a dock and things like that won't bother it in the least bit.
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I do not recommend any of the Samsung Flip Cases to customers because I have seen them cause problems with devices before. I do not recommend magnetic closures because I have seen them cause problems with devices.
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What sort of issues have you seen?
It seems strange that Samsung would release a product that would interfere with one of its flagship products and sell it as an accessory.
Mayonesa said:
Im looking for a holster, i found some but most have a magnetic closure. Im not sure if its ok for our phones so i just wantes your thoughts or experience with it. I use samsung pay every day and i dont want any sensor to be off because of the magnets.
Maybe im a little paranoid over it because it probably takes an extremely powerful magnet to cause any harm but im not willing to test it out lol
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I'm not sure if this is specifically what you're asking about, but I've been using a Scosche MagicMount (http://amzn.com/B00I608BJ8) for my car dash and love it! I lay the larger metal plate (it comes with two sizes) at the bottom of my case, oriented where the longer sides are parallel to the bottom of the phone (let me know if you need a picture). I don't stick the plate to my phone, but rather set it inside my case. It turns out to be the perfect length and height for the Note 5. Wireless charging and Samsung Pay still work great. I used that picture of the Note 5 where someone made the back of transparent to make sure the wireless charging coil inside the phone does not over lap with the metal plate that comes with the mount.
I bought a nice leatherette case for my Note 5 only to find that the S-Pen does not work on the right hand side where the magnet is. I took it off immediately and went back to my Body Glove case.
flyingwolf said:
You think or you know?
You should only be putting out info if you know. If you don't know, and it is clear you don't, then you should not speak on a subject.
Magnets will in no way harm the phone unless you are using super powerful magnets, what you use to hold the phone to a dock and things like that won't bother it in the least bit.
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I purchased a wallet case on eBay. I noticed there were areas on the screen that wouldn't work. When I flipped the removable phone case there were 6 magnets...three on each side to hold the phone in the wallet. These magnets are small, but the impact was terrible! I I'm attaching pictures of me using the s pen to find the areas on the screen and the back of the phone case.
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I purchased a wallet case on eBay. I noticed there were areas on the screen that wouldn't work. When I flipped the removable phone case there were 6 magnets...three on each side to hold the phone in the wallet. These magnets are small, but the impact was terrible! I I'm attaching pictures of me using the s pen to find the areas on the screen and the back of the phone case.
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Like I said. "Magnets will in no way harm the phone"
This isn't harming your phone, it does do as you have seen which is a TEMPORARY issue and has already been discussed, it will cause no permanent harm to the phone.
I don't know about magnetic holsters but magnetic car mounts most definitely YES. I've used many holsters over the years, for all kinds of types of phones. I haven't really thought about it till I saw this post. My buddy has a good magnetic car mount for his s7 edge, but I don't really know anyone at the moment that's using a magnetic holster. Just my opinion though, the last time I used a holster was way back in January and it was actually pretty good. It was a best buy branded platinum, with kickstand holdster and case like a 3 in kind of deal but not magnetic. It fit could on my belt clips for my jeans and suit pants. Good luck
bought the Bracketron brand at best buy, the magnetic part is on the mount, it is a metal plate stick to your phone so no interference from the magnet, not owning a note 5 tho.
I put in some small tin paper cutouts INSIDE my note 5. I took the back cover off, peeled the sticker with the color/logo and spraypainted it a nice black then just glued the tin paper inside of that. Then I took a flat wireless charger and added neodymium magnets to it, modded it to be as small/thin as possible then covered it up with some black thin leather I bought from Michaels. I mounted it up to my car's console and now I just plop the phone onto it and it sticks tight and fast charges, no wires or case. Worked perfectly, but in hot weather the leather would become a bit slippery so it would slip off, but I fixed that with a couple of very small circular double sided gel tape on the bottom just to provide a bit of friction. I've ridden like this for the past 5 or 6 months and it doesn't slip or fall off at all, heavy bumps, hot weather, nothing dislodges it.
The only thing that doesn't work is the spen, and that's only directly over the magnets, but I wouldn't write on it anyway while it was mounted. Otherwise I've had zero difficulties with it. I'll post up pics if anyone is interested, but it's a bit frankenstein looking.
I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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Yes, add a USB receiver.
Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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It's a receiver that connects through the USB port of the phone, it do e's not affect any waterproof seal, although you probably need to dry the usb port before charging, this is the same with all phone if it just came out of water.
Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Go to ebay and search for qi receiver, there are many available, although depending which one you get will vary in quality.
Yeah, I've seen those. I'm afraid they will be ripped off in my pocket, I think. So maybe the best bet is two phones and a twin SIM, so I have one for regular use and one for fishing. Or wait until spring and see if Sony gets their act together and actually deliver an expensive phone with the most common wireless charging option.
Just use a case with the receiver, sony knows about qi, they have a offcial qi case for the Z5, but decided not to use qi, and opt for fast charging instead.
Good point, a thin case with the receiver inside would probably be a good solution! Thanks! And Sony didn't think that one through. It makes it less likely that Samsung people, who often have a bunch of QI stuff from their phones, will convert. Fast charging is OK, but I prefer to put the phone into the car holder or on the bedside table and start charging without having to plug anything.
This one could be the right type:
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This one could be the right type:
http://d3rmje198d1rhf.cloudfront.net/graphics/450pixelp/58836.jpg
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nillkin has the best receiver so far if you are in for a USB receiver, unlike the one's sold on ebay, they just use a thin sticker with the circuit in between, the nillkin uses thin plasic, and is very stable, I have the nillkin one for my XP and V20. USB is availabl;e in two version, A and B.
The offcial sony one is pretty thick, not worth buying, but that is for the Z5 only.
Thanks! I'll get that when I change phone, then. But the picture is of a case I can use on the phone, not a receiver.
In case anybody else wants to try this, it works. But not with the pictured case, that creates pressure on the back of the phone which gives color blotches on the screen. So I found my solution in a so called "Slim Rubber Gel Case Cover" and the Nillkin receiver. Problem solved, and it works quite nicely. I rarely need to to connect my phone with the USB, but it's quite easy to pop off the case and remove the receiver.
I have been looking at Mous but they are very expensive. Are there other options? Also, possibly nicer cases that work with cheaper mounts? I am open. I even heard people doing hacks with metal/magnets and cases.
I'm using Samsung's fast wireless charger and Samsung's S-Pen silicon cover and works great. I also tried SPACE transparent TPU cover and didnt cause any issues with wireless charging
Moue or pitaka, if you want smth that is designed to work together but both are kinda expensive, pitaka is more like a skin and don offer protection so mouse look much better for the price. Or just get any case you like and Xiaomi Wireless Car Charger 20W or similar.
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Moue or pitaka, if you want smth that is designed to work together but both are kinda expensive, pitaka is more like a skin and don offer protection so mouse look much better for the price. Or just get any case you like and Xiaomi Wireless Car Charger 20W or similar.
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Thanks, I have looked at both Mous and Pitaka. I would have gone with Pitaka because the price point is acceptable, but I agree that the case doesn't offer enough protection for me. I am trying to find something that only uses magnets for the convenience. I have been using one now and I am spoiled. I wonder if there are any cases out there that will work with Pitaka mount or a mount that will work with the Mous case? I can't bring myself to spend $100 on the Mous mount. I also don't want to have metal on the outside of the case. I want my cake and eat it too.
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I'm using Samsung's fast wireless charger and Samsung's S-Pen silicon cover and works great. I also tried SPACE transparent TPU cover and didnt cause any issues with wireless charging
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That looks cool and I may get it, I am specifically looking for a magnetic car mount that can charge wirelessly that doesn't cost an arm and a leg like the Mous Limitless 3.0.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...a-black/6444076.p?skuId=6444076&intl=nosplash its a bit pricey but this is what I would use for wireless charger I would say some first party wireless charger
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That looks cool and I may get it, I am specifically looking for a magnetic car mount that can charge wirelessly that doesn't cost an arm and a leg like the Mous Limitless 3.0.
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Oh my bad, didnt read the CAR part.. sorry aorry
Has anyone tried ohsnap with their wireless mount? It sounds economical and could work but I heard it doesn't have a strong hold and doesn't always charge right. It also sounded like those people may have not taken the time to put it on the right spot in the back.
Have you seen this Unisynk holder? You can use it with any case..
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