I tested a similar phone in direct comparison to my Xiaomi mi 9t pro today and thouht the photos in 1x mode were blury in the details on the 9t. So I tested the settings back and forth.
Using pinch-zoom on screen before taking the photo gives sharper images even if using 1.0x zoom, as default. Choosing the 1x lens to get default 1.0x again without using pinch-zoom gives back burry images.
This is repeatable and the quality difference quite noticable imo.
I assume there is some extra processing step that is initially not enabled that gives thiis difference, sharpening/scaling etc.
What du you think, anyone seeing the same ?
Conditions:
Indoors, lower lighting, 4000X3000 pixels, 1x lens, normal photo mode. Object with small text at about 1m distance.
Camera 4.0 on MIUI Global 12.0.3
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Seems like focus issue.
Try tap to focus instead zoom and see if problem persists.
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Hi.
Ever since I received the latest update (.153), my phone does not switch the camera to the 5x all the time. It only changes, 100% of the time, when I press on the 10x zoom.
I have a hard time explaining, basically what I want to say is: When I press the 5x zoom button the app stays on the main sensor and doesn't use the 5x one all the time, only sometimes.
Try to go to settings>apps>storage and then clear data, it should fix it, otherwise, go to the service center.
Or maybe your subject is too close or you do have a low light environment
Just checked mine and it works 100% okay, so it's not a "global" bug.
IamNumber25 said:
Try to go to settings>apps>storage and then clear data, it should fix it, otherwise, go to the service center.
Or maybe your subject is too close or you do have a low light environment
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Well, it happens only in low light and also when its too close, but still, why?
When I tried outside(in the night) it still used the main sensor, but when I tried using the x10, it was sharper than the main sensor at x5, so I dont understand their logic.
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Well, it happens only in low light and also when its too close, but still, why?
When I tried outside(in the night) it still used the main sensor, but when I tried using the x10, it was sharper than the main sensor at x5, so I dont understand their logic.
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Because focusing has minimum required distance, maybe at least 2m-3m when you use 5x optical zoom to properly focus on the subject (Even DSLR/Mirrorless lenses has it). Also, it will shift to main sensor at night because it has only 3.5 Aperture and it will be too dark if it will use it compared to 1.6 aperture of the main camera. Same how samsung uses its telephoto lens at night, it will automatically shift to main sensor.
In contrast, 10x zoom uses hybrid zoom which uses both the periscope lens and the main camera. So far, my device is good in lowlight even I use 5x zoom, I think you just need to focus it firmly before taking photos
I've noticed the very same issue after .153 with mine, I've cleaned data for camera and reset it to default which immediately fixed the issue, but now it's happening again... and not always, it seems like it just can't switch to other camera module... when needed (5x only) both for video or photo... really strange... Mine is from UAE...
Yeah, same here... But I can't even fix the issue.
It keeps struggling with 5x zoom.
When it starts focusing, often a noticable switch (different camera module?) to a much noisier image occurs.
Also with zooming in from 1,1x to 4,9x I have no image stabilization...
I hope they can sort this out with future updates.
For now I have to use 5,1x zoom or 10x zoom for a clean image with stabilization.
Can anyone confirm that behaviour?
Hi,
Currently in the .153 firmware and have noticed a couple of camera problems and just wanted to see does anyone else have the same problems or know a solution.
First problem I noticed is sometimes when I take a picture and go to view it using the gallery button in the camera it will say "loading" and it will stay like that and then I'll either get a could not connect to camera error or the camera will crash and the picture won't be saved. This seems to be solved with a reboot.
Secondly I noticed that when using the 5x zoom it appears to not use the dedicated zoom lens and instead using digital zoom from the main lens. Clearing the data and cache fixes this issue for a period until I comes back.
HOLOYOLO said:
Hi,
Currently in the .153 firmware and have noticed a couple of camera problems and just wanted to see does anyone else have the same problems or know a solution.
First problem I noticed is sometimes when I take a picture and go to view it using the gallery button in the camera it will say "loading" and it will stay like that and then I'll either get a could not connect to camera error or the camera will crash and the picture won't be saved. This seems to be solved with a reboot.
Secondly I noticed that when using the 5x zoom it appears to not use the dedicated zoom lens and instead using digital zoom from the main lens. Clearing the data and cache fixes this issue for a period until I comes back.
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I have also noticed the zooming not using the main zoom lens you could hear it before but you cant hear the lens anymore since the update so they have bust the camera in the update ?
Mine seems to zoom okay
When there's not enough light for the tele lens to expose correctly the phone will switch to the main lens and then apply digital zoom. This is because the main lens has higher aperture (lower f/number) and therefore it will let pass more light to the sensor than the tele lens
Stolz said:
When there's not enough light for the tele lens to expose correctly the phone will switch to the main lens and then apply digital zoom. This is because the main lens has higher aperture (lower f/number) and therefore it will let pass more light to the sensor than the tele lens
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I don't think this is the problem for me because I noticed this happening outdoors in nice sunny areas.
The latest updates has many camera bugs even using light painting mode. Silky water feature does not work very well even in other light painting modes which produces around 700kb file only instead of more than 2mb.
SO how does that 5x optical zoom work? Everything beneath 5x is not optical, is that right? Or does it depends on the light conditions?
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SO how does that 5x optical zoom work? Everything beneath 5x is not optical, is that right? Or does it depends on the light conditions?
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Most of the time, 0.6x, 1x and 5x zooms are purely optical, any other zoom is not. But as stated before in certain light conditions 5x can be non purely optical
I've noticed the same issue with the camera lenses and was surprised, that the quality of the results differs a lot even with the same focal lenght!
The phone does not always chose the lens you actually want to use. I did a few tests on that by covering each lens when changing from wide to 1x to 5x (that 10x is digitally zoomed is obvious). Everything in between is digitally zoomed (or cropped?) as well of course.
Please see attached pictures. Both on "5x" - 135mm focal lenght, but of course with different aperture (F3.4 vs. F1.6), exposure (1/30s vs. 1/120s) and ISO (200 vs. 80). This indicates quite accurate, that the phone uses the main lens (1x) with digital zoom in some situations, which is a mess! You cannot force the phone to use one lens, that's the issue, even in pro mode. It seems the phone decides which lens to pick on the available light (of course the main lens has the larger aperture), but digital zoom is a really bad solution!
As you guys mentioned, this issue is the same with videos!
I have not found any solution or how to chose one explicit lens. Hope an update will make that possible...
I'm on 153 also but didn't have any problems with lenses so far..altough I can tell it sometimes takes some time to switch the lens between the main and tele lens..you can tell because picture sudennly "clears out" while composing a shot.
I noticed different problem. When using slow motion video above 120fps resolution is horrible and focus is extremely slow.
I did experience some camera crashes while doing macro photography but continued to use the camera and phone normally without rebooting.
Same Problems, maybe even worse...
Hi,
I'm having the same problems but after the picture does not load in my gallery, it becomes just a green picture... My phone is been to the store 5 times now, i've had a new one, but i'm experiencing the same issues.
Is there a solution yet?
I have exactly the same issue with regular P30
Telephoto lens was working fine with EMUI 9.1, but since EMUI 10 any zoomed pictures results in a blurry mess, in order to use telephoto you have to switch to Pro mode AND enable RAW output, otherwise it won't work
This surely looks like a bug in the camera software
Hi Guys,
The Mi 9 camera is totally unusable to making photos. I do not know what happened with the software, but so many people have been complain this issue in the Mi Community portal, so this issue is common for the all Mi9 user. Furthermore, the photo quality of the macro mode is totally unusable... awful. I really hope the MI team is working on it.
I have took some photos for example, through the link you can find some 1-1 photo, but all of the capture with Mi9 device are bad. Photos: photos.app.goo.gl/xLMhiBJVm8EwtvVCA
Have anyone ever meet with this issue?
Same here 10.2.26.0
Flash to bright
All pictures with Flash are overexposed
Same here
Macro option looks worse than normal photo. Huge detail lose, colors smeared, loose focus. Something really wrong with processing software.
Here is some example: photos.app.goo.gl/xLMhiBJVm8EwtvVCA
I hope the next update fix this
Hi all,
I have been using s21 ultra for about 20 days.. the main issue is with camera.. the camera is blured if I go beyond 10x zoom , I could see people taking decent picture of moon with atleast 50x zoom with s21 ultra. Also my screen on time is just 5.30 hrs at max.. please help me through this issues. I have updated latest Feb patch too (G998BXXU1AUB9)
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Hi all,
I have been using s21 ultra for about 20 days.. the main issue is with camera.. the camera is blured if I go beyond 10x zoom , I could see people taking decent picture of moon with atleast 50x zoom with s21 ultra. Also my screen on time is just 5.30 hrs at max.. please help me through this issues. I have updated latest Feb patch too (G998BXXU1AUB9)
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Hi, I will tell you what I have read that has helped me, hopefully it will help you too.
1) Make sure lenses are clean, I thought mine were but it made a big difference after I cleaned them.
2) In 10x zoom mode and low light, I have to manually zoom out to 16x before it switches to the 10x lense, hopefully it will be fixed in a software update. If you use Night Mode for low light it gives much better pictures.
3) For moon shots, I find it easier to use 30x zoom, tap the rectangular box that appears to the top right to "lock on" and it turns yellow, then tap on the moon to get the "yellow box" to focus. I have read that it makes no difference between 30x and 100x pictures as they are all digital zoom (somebody might know better info on this)
4) For close up/macro shots use the standard wide camera and get close to what you want to photograph, when you get really close you should see a yellow or whie dot appear in the bottom left of the screen, this is the "focus enhancer", tap that to make it yellow to get the best pictures.
Hope this helps you a little more.
Hi. Just a heads up for anyone else coming here. My brand new Ultra camera did this exact thing (couldn't focus beyond 10 x zoom and was too shakey to use at that level). 100% the cause for me was vibrations from my motorbike. I had it in an unpadded mount which had never affected my S10 but a single ride killed my S21 Ultra. Luckily Samsung fixed it under warranty for me.
Observing black vertical lines on the screen when using back or front camera. These lines are also imprinted on the photos. I am attaching screenshot and a video of the issue
Anybody else running into the issue?
Pixel version - TD1A.221105.001
Camera version - 8.7.165.479933554.19
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Observing black vertical lines on the screen when using back or front camera. These lines are also imprinted on the photos. I am attaching screenshot and a video of the issue
Anybody else running into the issue?
Pixel version - TD1A.221105.001
Camera version - 8.7.165.479933554.19
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Hi, dude,
This is a normal physical effect, which is called 'Antbamding' (50 or 60Hz).
in previous versions there was an option in camera settings "Antbanding" to minimize that effect.
for more Info 'google' it!
I do not see any option in Gcam for anti-banding
I am also experiencing this, vertical bars for BOTH front and back camera. Was at restaurants in low light environment and took these, using portrait mode, night mode and normal mode.
Yes, this is the same issue I have experienced on both front and back camera in artificial lights.
Seen this during day time, indoor shoot as well as night time indoor shoot
Ok. That's 2 of us... Is this normal/expected camera processor behavior or do we have defective units??
A couple others have reported this as well. Even in few of the youtube videos comparing Pixel 7 with other smartphones, I was able to catch this on pixel 7/pro display.
I do not believe this is affecting just vanilla 7, but 7 pro as well.
I hope others chime in with their experience by shooting under different light conditions.
I had such a problem when I put on a cover. It turns out that there is a sensor between the two cameras, and my cover did not have a hole for this sensor. I had to make a hole myself. Everything is fine now. My pixel 7.
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I had such a problem when I put on a cover. It turns out that there is a sensor between the two cameras, and my cover did not have a hole for this sensor. I had to make a hole myself. Everything is fine now. My pixel 7.
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What case/cover it is?
I have the same issue...
Issue is seen even without any case/cover in my case
Workaround - Start the camera in selfie mode and after 1 second switch to back camera.
Update; i exchanged phone as it was new and replacement phone does same thing, so it is a " bad behavior". Work around is to play with the lightness bar when taking pic. Banding stops at a certain point, but what a pain..
This isn't a defect per se, it's image banding.
Likely from LED lighting.
Try decreasing the shutter speed under a 100th of a second while keeping the exposure like in pro mode.
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This isn't a defect per se, it's image banding.
Likely from LED lighting.
Try decreasing the shutter speed under a 100th of a second while keeping the exposure like in pro mode.
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There are no such options in Google Camera app. I see the same response being posted all over the internet for such problems (reported on Pixel 6, Pixel 6 pro etc.)
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There are no such options in Google Camera app. I see the same response being posted all over the internet for such problems (reported on Pixel 6, Pixel 6 pro etc.)
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That's a normal digital camera phenomenon, not a defect. That said I can't get my N10+ to do it with LED lighting. These ones probably aren't pulse modulated though.
Use the phone's led, another led light source or incandescent lighting to back fill the shot. You need to slow the shutter speed otherwise or shoot at a higher ISO.