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Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
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try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...
prabh said:
try playing around with the touchflo sensitivity settings either through the registry or use Kaisertweak for it...let me knw if it helps...
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I've done it already. I've played with every setting known by me.
Still doesnt work. I just flashed to 6.0. And again - there is no such issue.
Thanks for suggestion!
woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with
Infuruno said:
woot I'm no longer the only one with this! i set my sensitivity settings to Normal on kaiser tweak it's the best at reducing the frequency i can get it so far haven't found a 'fix' kinda given up only hope if t-mobile uk release their damn 6.1 rom so i can try and see if i can get the phone fixed or replaced via warranty. also it seems the problem is with the device not the roms im currently on the t-mobile 6.0 its has the same problem more noticeable when i set sensitivity > normal in kaiser tweak.
EDIT: something I've noticed is that maybe the sensitive part has moved away from the screen right now when at an angle i can see a 'large effect zone' like holding it towards the PC screen the tapping with a stylus and seeing the distortion of the reflection i would estimate it to be about 2 cm in radius from the point i touch the screen (maybe this is normal, people who don't have this problem see it you can see this) but I've seen it worse especially after taking it out of my pocket at the end of the day so i think heat my have damaged touch part causing it to expand and detach that would be body heat or heat from when the devices sometimes overheats when plugged in, anyway thats the only theory i can come up with
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Thanks Infuruno for your suggestion. I think you have a good point in that disortion but there is one big difference in our problem, and I don't know why.
Its the WM version. Now I'm runnig 6.0 without any problem. Even if I want to do this - it never occurs. And I mean never!. I don't know what's wrong here
Anyway I'll soon try to buy the touch screen for Kaiser and change it.
Cheers,
Chris
6.0 seemed to have sensitivity set on normal by default while the 6.1 by default the sensitivity is set of high (> normal) at least looking at the official t-mobile 6.0 and every other 6.1 rom i've tested, and the touch screen thing is just a theory i came up while well literally as i posted that message just started putting things i've seen together maybe if someone who didn't have the problem could see if they got distortion before you buy a new touch screen.
I just got my Tilt (I came from the Sprint Touch) and I've noticed the same thing. I never used a 6.0 ROM, the guy I bought it from already had a 6.1 ROM on it and I flashed it to HyperDragon's PRO III ROM when I got it.
I was used to my Sprint Touch and it had a 6.1 ROM on it as well and didn't have a problem. It is very annoying if I try to use an onscreen keyboard for those times that I don't want to pull out the other one.
Done more tests.
Today I've installed new HyperDragon III Pro (great ROM ) and I still got that issue. After that - flashed Dutty's V4 RTM (6.0) - and you know what? It works just perfect.
I don't know wtf is wrong with that.
What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?
Infuruno said:
What happens when you set the screen sensitivity to normal using kaiser tweak on a 6.1 rom?
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Hmm, nothing at all.
I've tried that every time. That doesn't work on that
Thanks!
This just sucks ass.... I really don't know what to do. I just flashed HD III Pro, Its great ROM, and I cannot use it cause of this ****ing screen thing.
Flashed back to random 6.0 --- no problems. Damnit!
Same problem for me, very hard to make a call
Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.
mindfrost82 said:
Changing the sensitivity seems to have helped it some for me. I still notice it but its not as bad as it was before.
In KaiserTweak I have Sensitivity and Finger Pressure both set to Normal.
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I've done really many tries with various options and various configurations before I posted the thread. Nothing - absolutely nothing seems to help.
kristoff_sz said:
Hello guys,
I don't post many threads with problems, but for this one i can't find any answer and this one seems really weird, cause it occurs ONLY on any version of 6.1.
So I have really bizzare screen alignment problem.
Sometimes when i tap screen with finger or stylus - it will tap not in the point where i want but about 4-7mm under the point. It never goes above the point - always under it. Sometimes it occurs time to time, but sometimes without stop. I don't know what's wrong.
I've tried different SPL's and Radios. I've done really really really many configurations with ROM+SPL+RADIO and nothing seems to resolve that problem.
This only occurs on 6.1 for me(every one). NEVER HAPPENED ON 6.0 ROM. Any.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is this a hardware problem? If so why i don't occurs in 6.0? If its software related, how to get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris
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I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.
zsilak said:
I have the very same problem. I thought my phone was broken.
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I wonder then where is the problem? Maybe its a problem with some models of Kaiser?
I'm surprised there's not more people with this problem. Are you guys using an AT&T branded Tilt or HTC-branded, or other?
There's gotta be something in common with all of us.
What Hard-SPL version are you guys using that have the problem?
i have same problem
someday i flashed a new rom and i cant manage how to resolve this. i have that even on wm 6.0 roms. im setting up the sensitivity and it helps just locally, not fully at all. tried high sensitive on my friends kaiser and there is nothing worng with that.
i have tried many spls, but none of them seems to work
can anyone help with that?
i dont want to change my screen
ive tried many systems and spsl before, but never noticed this action.
please, somebody help with that.
I have an old Palm Tugsten T3 that started doing that, the way I fixed it was I went to the screen alignment page and clicked near the top of the bulls eye insted of the center of it, fixed it right up. try that and let me know how that works.
Im sure a fair number of you will have experienced the same thing where you press a key once and you get like 3 of that letter and sometimes for me the Fn key doesnt work too well either
i've tried like swirling the keys around to move dust etc but it didnt help
maybe i should just send it back? becuase its really annoying
I also have this problem sometimes. Thought it might be a software problem or so, but maybe you are right and particles are collecting there.
Did someone try that on X1?
Well, if there was such a solution I wouldn't have to send my X1 to the service centre. And just delaying it as much as possible, but given that my warranty ends next week, I'd probably have to go down soon. And anyway, it's not just repeats that I'm facing. Sometimes it's the other way round, as in the keyboard not responding unless I press the key down real hard.
Mopral said:
Did someone try that on X1?
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just tried, and seems to work! thanks
settings-personal-buttons-up/down control
delay before first repeat set to long
repeat rate 3 from fast
works good!
I'd say it works about 80-90%. It does save the X1 from the trash piles, so kudos to the friendly guy who dug up the solution, and no kudos to SE and/or MS who can't think of fine-tuning the keyboard settings before they ship a product that was $800-900 unlocked at launch.
Caveat and an inappropriate rant: I remember doing so much research, and everyone across so many different forums said a hardware keyboard is the way to go if you do a lot of texting. Not true. I find that hardware keyboards require a lot of efforts to press compared to a virtual keyboard, even worse if it's not spaciously laid out, and even worse if, unlike the X1, the positioning of the keys relative to each other is off.
Truth is I type even faster on an iPhone/ipod touch than an X1, without feeling like an RSI is coming on, and it's not because of predictive text entry. It's because my thumbs can use a lot less force on the keys. I believe most people still press way too hard on a touch screen trying to be control freaks.
So the keyboard may be 80-90% improved, but I've got my budget ready for an iPhone. And no more listening, no more being open to suggestions!
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Caveat and an inappropriate rant: I remember doing so much research, and everyone across so many different forums said a hardware keyboard is the way to go if you do a lot of texting. Not true. I find that hardware keyboards require a lot of efforts to press compared to a virtual keyboard, even worse if it's not spaciously laid out, and even worse if, unlike the X1, the positioning of the keys relative to each other is off.
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Well, I don't want to live without h/w keyboard anymore. And I did a fast typing challenge against an iPhone and won. The guy who wrote on that iPhone was a real freak, had an iPhone since it came out and types really fast...but I love the h/w keyboard on the xperia. If it would not have this double-letter error I would love it even more...Now I'm going to fix it with the solution mentioned above. Thanks!
I just want to add one thing...
The reason I say the fix is 80-90%, is because I think CPU speed and/or power settings might contribute somewhat to the keyboard issue. Once last week, I had the phone plugged into AC, and the keyboard suddenly became free of issues, and responded properly to my typical typing efforts.
Using nueCPL-ClockSpeed v1.3 in an unscientific test, the keyboard produces more mistakes on a lower speed (384MHz), but its Max Performance setting didn't exactly reproduce the AC power remedy.
This is not a very stringent observation at all, but since I am stuck with the X1 for a while, I'll keep on trying I'm betting that the next iPhone will be a significant update, so I have to hold off the purchase for now... and kiss NRGZ28's toes for his rom's.
Sapa13 said:
just tried, and seems to work! thanks
settings-personal-buttons-up/down control
delay before first repeat set to long
repeat rate 3 from fast
works good!
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for two days, since i set this way, not even one double or missed letter!
i've done everything you've all said but it doesnt work does that mean it is a physical problem?
comeradealexi said:
i've done everything you've all said but it doesnt work does that mean it is a physical problem?
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really dont know, since i set that way no problem at all.. maybe dirt came under your keyboard
I recently got a replacement phone from esurance for a broken Droid x2. They sent me a droid 4, which I had no objections against given the great specs comparatively.
I read reviews on the screen being low quality, viewing wise, and this is not the issue I have with the phone. Coming from a dx2, the quality is not that different.
My problem is that there appears to be a lag between when i touch the screen and when it starts reading the input. A simple test to show what I am talking about is as follows;
Download multi touch paint or another paint app. If I swipe my finger across the screen as fast as i can, I can get 2/3 of the way across the screen before it draws anything.
This half second delay makes typing on the screen nearly impossible...It only picks up about half of the letters I press when typing normally like I would on a Dx2. To be clear, its not inputing the wrong letters because i am not used to the phone.. Its not inputting anything on about half of my keypresses.
I am on the latest official (nonleaked) version of android. Unrooted.
Should I RMA it again? Is there a fix, and has anyone else experienced it?
Thanks for any help!
over 150 views and no reply yet? I dont mean to rush things along, I just wanna make sure i did everything right.. Im in the right section?
If nothing else, could someone else tell me whether they have similar results?
Is typing horrible for everyone on the onscreen keyboard?
I don't use the on screen keyboard much but the few times I have I have not noticed any lag. Sounds like a hardware issue to me.
I'd do a factory reset (yeah yeah, I know). If that doesn't fix it, you can either RMA it again or try to install a 3rd party rom and see if that helps things.
What you are describing is definitely not normal.
Factory reset actually cleared up my issues =) thanks!
I have experienced a really strange phenomenon. Just got a new Galaxy S GT-I9000 and decided to give CM10 a shot.
The main problem I am facing is some sort of a lag or better no response at all randomly. Problems are visible when:
1. I type on my keyboard
2. I scroll down long lists
The Problem.
Sometimes the device doesnt respond to my "tap" at all. The bug just occurs on the right half of the keyboard so you could say lower right half of the screen in a certain area around [k, i, l , j] buttons. When scrolling down lists my thumb is normally in that area so even when scrolling down the screen simply does not react from time to time and when I lift my thumb up and tap again everything works as normal.
This problem is extremely frustrating because I am not able to type properly anymore. First i was afraid its not the Firmware BUT my phone. But on stock rom I dont experience any of this at all.
Does anyone have an idea? Why can't I find something about this problem in the Forums. CM9 should be stable and nobody seems to experience this problem but doesnt the fact that it works on a stock rom prove, that its can't be the hardware?
Greetings
Anyone having a similar experience? Any sort of screen input seems to bog down really bad and finding myself having to retype things and hit keys again. Wondering if it is somehow heat related? Or some kind of software flaw? It happens with the stock keyboard and swiftkey as well. Any input is appreciated, thank you.
This happens to me all the time now. It is really annoying. I'm going to do a clean reinstall and see if that helps.
It happens to many people. I get this too sometimes when typing on keyboard, it will miss some of the keys/letters. It could be touchscreen issue and/or LG Keyboard issue. The interesting thing is that when I started to use the phone it didn't do that, but in 4 or 5 days it started to do that. I cleared the cache of LG Keyboard, but still didn't help. I hope LG gives us some sort of software update even if it is not 5.1.1. We need a normal working phone!
Yeah interestingly enough it happens mostly on the charger. When I'm off, it seems to be pretty much good. Although it does miss some presses on occasion if I don't press deliberately enough. It's almost as though the touch screen sensitivity is botched
Yes common lg issue. No idea why
change the keyboard and hopefully lg will send a software update to fix this and this only while charging also is your phone usable
What temps are you guys getting when the Keyboard lag occurs while charging for both battery and CPU?
In my case and also others have reported that keyboard lag occurs in any condition if the phone is charging and when it is not. I think I have eliminated the keyboard lag by disabling vibrate in LG Keyboard settings. Now don't have any missed key presses.
I get this when charging very time, and I don't use the LG keyboard. It's definitely a hardware issue. I don't use the stock LG charger though, but it doesn't sound like that would make a difference.