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First off, hi guys - new HD2 (Leo) owner here and have to say I love it!!
Anyway, thought I'd just say something about this product. It's rubbish...
Poor fit, didn't stick properly and bubbles galore - stay well clear of it IMO
Anyway, will be lingering about as still getting my head about WinMo and the various ROMs about - still running stock 1.48 ROM out the box but it's an awesome phone and definitely glad I got it...
Well my friend, for a first post it's a good point well made. The HTC screen protectors are ****e! I managed to lay mine without bubbles, but at the bottom where it fits over the buttons it keeps lifting up and just doesn't settle properly. It's now starting to get crap underneath it, completely defeating it's intended purpose.
Final verdict... EPIC FAIL!
Oh and Welcome to XDA Developers EddyOS. I'm sure you'll be a flashaholic in no time.
ClownShoes said:
Well my friend, for a first post it's a good point well made. The HTC screen protectors are ****e! I managed to lay mine without bubbles, but at the bottom where it fits over the buttons it keeps lifting up and just doesn't settle properly. It's now starting to get crap underneath it, completely defeating it's intended purpose.
Final verdict... EPIC FAIL!
Oh and Welcome to XDA Developers EddyOS. I'm sure you'll be a flashaholic in no time.
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Did yours come with a screen protector in the box? I didn't see one in mine but I may have overlooked it, or different packaging in Asia. So tomorrow I'm on a hunt to find one.
I dont recal there being one in mine either. Hmm maybe i should look alittle harder.
Maybe they ordered the original OEM ones from HTC as a side-order!?
I did, and mine are in the mail.
Should arrive tomorrow...
Hope they are not as bad as stated in this post...
Will be sure to comment on it here when I get them
Yeah, bought mine from the HTC Shop - didn't get any in the box...
Ordered mine too... complete waste of money
I got the official ones too, I thought it was me just fitting it badly as it didn't seem to fit the screen and had bubbles. I couldn't get it to sick below the buttons either. It had to come off. I got another one from Amazon and it now fits as I would expect it to.
I would not recommend the official protector from HTC, sorry.
What ones did you get in the end? Might be tempted to get one to be on the safe side but my phone does stay in it's pouch when not in use...
Why would you need to have a screen protector......
If you guys have been hiding under your bed sheets then its time to wake up.
Leo, AKA HD2 had a scratch resistant glass and not a cheap plastic face.
Just have a look at the following link and you will agree....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s
you need guts to do it, but i didnt have the guts to do that.
But atleast the screen protector is not needed.
Of course a screen protector is needed. It may be made of glass, but it's not bullet proof glass!
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What ones did you get in the end? Might be tempted to get one to be on the safe side but my phone does stay in it's pouch when not in use...
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002Y33M4W/ref=ox_ya_oh_product
This is the one I went for from Amazon. Fits much better than the official HTC one as it sits just slightly within the screen profile rather than exactly the same size. I have a 100% fix now.
But as one of the posts above points out, we shouldn't really need a protector on it because it is scratch resistant, but I go for peace of mind.
GUYS!
Please stay away from HTC screen protector. It is the worst screen protector I have ever had. First of all it is almost impossible to apply correctly, I had 4 and scrapped every single one! (just to say it is not the first device with big screen I tried to apply screen protector and I never had troubles before). Second thing is that it gets very smudgy.... for me complete waste of money.
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GUYS!
Please stay away from HTC screen protector. It is the worst screen protector I have ever had. First of all it is almost impossible to apply correctly, I had 4 and scrapped every single one! (just to say it is not the first device with big screen I tried to apply screen protector and I never had troubles before). Second thing is that it gets very smudgy.... for me complete waste of money.
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Completely aggree with you. I also waste 3 of them. finally a give up!
Not recomended!
My HTC screen-protectors arrived today...
And I have to admit, I didn't really believe the people writing about how bad they were.
But I have to aggree, what a piece of s***!
I got 2 in the pack, and the first one messed up on a biblical level for me.
The second one actually seemed to fit as intended, but I just couldn't get the corner to fit right...
I got away with no bubbles underneath, but the damn corner just couldn't fit.
We're talking a matter of milimeters here...
Stay away from them, like everyone else is saying
I'll join the chorus.
I ordered a pack of 2, and quickly noticed that they're very different from the (actually quite OK) HTC HD protectors.
The adhesive side seems to attract small particles from the air within seconds. Just one such small particle produces an ugly bubble. I don't want to be seen with such bubbles. My wife would call be "Bubble Boy".
Since the adhesive is quite strong, it's impossible to make minute adjustments the moment a part of the protector touches the glass. This is compounded by the exact measurements - even when I thought it fit wonderfully on one end of the screen, the other end collided with the screen bezel, making it a bust.
The protector is also very thin and flexible, so it is almost impossible to hold without bending and getting fingerprints underneath, further ruining its appearance.
This product should be retracted from the market. I completely understand why the HD2 doesn't come bundled with these protectors:
1. they're practically impossible to fit
2. the HD2's glass doesn't really need it
I'll live hard and fast, without protection.
What for?
My HD2 is rocking along very nicely without a screen protector... with this scratch resistant glass, I really didn't see the point.
I avoid putting my phone in the same pocket as my loose change or my keys - but that was a pretty easy adjustment to make.
... Just don't see what I'd want to use a screen protector for other than to take a beautifully slim piece of art look like something it's not.
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My HD2 is rocking along very nicely without a screen protector... with this scratch resistant glass, I really didn't see the point.
I avoid putting my phone in the same pocket as my loose change or my keys - but that was a pretty easy adjustment to make.
... Just don't see what I'd want to use a screen protector for other than to take a beautifully slim piece of art look like something it's not.
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I don't see how applying a screen protector that's probably less than 0.5mm thick will ruin the look of the device.
Its about personal choice
Screen protector or no screen protector? Condom or no condom? Safety glasses or no safety glasses? Its a matter of choice linked to a a personal assessment of risk, cost and benefit.
I always use one........
WB
fz9999 said:
Of course a screen protector is needed.
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It's not "needed". It's scratch resistant glass - we have discussed this here before. It's the same type of glass you get with better watches. Do you use them with a protector? If you "want" damage the glass you can do this with force, but then a screen protector wouldn't help neither.
Hi there.
As the title reads I got a 3mm long scratch on the display of my galaxy ... the scratch distorts the colours, so it's quite annoying once you notice it (and it's particularly annoying on brighter backgrounds) ... I have absolutely no idea how it happened, as I am using a bag for it all the while it's in my pocket to prevent it from getting scratches...
Soo, my question:
Is there anything I can do to "fix" the scratch?
Once scratch happens, then it pretty much stays there.
Sometime a screen protectors can help hide the scratches make it less noticeable. Other than that there are no way to fix it I suppose.
Good screen protector hide all scratches.
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Please don't try this at home!
If the scratch isn't too deep then you may be able to polish it out with some wet/dry sandpaper.
But you may damage the touch screen if you go too deep.
Sent from my AWESOME Galaxy S
For ****s sake DO NOT take sand paper to the touch screen!! what kind of advice is that?
once scratched, that's it. if it really annoys you, you'll have to replace the screen.
Wet/dry sandpaper is how a clear coat is polished on a car. As I said if it isn't too deep then it's an option. What you are saying is that you are screwed anyway and have to replace it. If the OP is already at that point of frustration, then they could at least try before having to replace the screen.
Last resort before accepting your screen is stuffed?
At first I also thought what a silly idea to use sand paper on glass.
But after googling the web and quick research, it can be done!
Using high grit silicon carbide wet/dry sanding paper can remove scratches from glass.
Though, I wouldn't try it my self but thanks for the pointer.
here are an example of what can be done:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4472970_remove-small-scratches-from-window.html
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Wet/dry sandpaper is how a clear coat is polished on a car. As I said if it isn't too deep then it's an option. What you are saying is that you are screwed anyway and have to replace it. If the OP is already at that point of frustration, then they could at least try before having to replace the screen.
Last resort before accepting your screen is stuffed?
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Screen protector I would recommend to hide the scratches is the Zagg invisible shield.
It is made of polymer that kinda adhere to the screen very tightly help smooth over scratches and make them less noticeable compare to other brand.
BIG BIG DISCLAIMER:
Zagg invisible shield is NOT for everyone. The polymer material can feel sticky and a bit soft. So be warned, it is a love hate relationship when it comes to zagg.
Well i got 2 scratches one is 5mm long the other is 8mm. Fortunately they are on the far right side, close to the bezel, so they don't really bother me at all.
You got only one small scratch, that's nothing
Even that i had the first scratches on the second day i owned the device i will still not make it look ugly with some silly shield. Im expecting a year out of this device, and don't care if it's scratched when that year is gone.
If you change your mobile phone every year then I can understand.
However, my mobile phone lasted me at least 2-3 years each. My previous two was XDA O2 > Samsung Omnia i900 and now Galaxy S
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Well i got 2 scratches one is 5mm long the other is 8mm. Fortunately they are on the far right side, close to the bezel, so they don't really bother me at all.
You got only one small scratch, that's nothing
Even that i had the first scratches on the second day i owned the device i will still not make it look ugly with some silly shield. Im expecting a year out of this device, and don't care if it's scratched when that year is gone.
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I noticed that the (super) AMOLED displays are relatively cheap in comparison to the traditional LCD screens that you can find on for example the HTC's. Here in the Netherlands I found a company that will repair/substitute a Galaxy S screen for 100 euro. (Compared to 250 euro for a HD2 screen) And I didn't search that hard. I bet that there are companies that do it for less.
If other solutions doesn't work for you, google the internet and look what the prices are for a new display in your neighbourhood. Maybe its much cheaper than you thought.
That's beyound any logic.
OLED/AMOLED screens are more expensive than LCD screens, 250$ for the HD2 screen is an overly blown-out price, you can find screens on ebay for less than half that price.
About sandpaper and whatnot- Yeah, high-grit sandpaper is a way to polish out scratches on glass.
I won't ever try it on the SGS, since i don't know where exactly is the digitizer layer.
You won't really need to replace the OLED screen, its the capacitive touch screen layer that needed to be change.
For my omnia i900, I have plenty of scratches on my screen and I replaced the touch layer at one of the local store for less than 40USD.
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You won't really need to replace the OLED screen, its the capacitive touch screen layer that needed to be change.
For my omnia i900, I have plenty of scratches on my screen and I replaced the touch layer at one of the local store for less than 40USD.
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aren't the touchsensors build in the screen itself? If I remember it well is the biggest advantage of super Amoled that it doesn't have a touch screen layer.
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aren't the touchsensors build in the screen itself? If I remember it well is the biggest advantage of super Amoled that it doesn't have a touch screen layer.
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Indeed that is the case. The SAMOLED screens have the touch technology integrated into the screen so you will have to replace the entire screen.
But someone found 100euros for a replacement in Holland... can you post a link to that? Seems like a good backup to me.
If its not insured, then get it insured and claim the repairs of the insurance. Accidental damage should cover it.
outch, didn't know. best keep it scratch-less then.
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Indeed that is the case. The SAMOLED screens have the touch technology integrated into the screen so you will have to replace the entire screen.
But someone found 100euros for a replacement in Holland... can you post a link to that? Seems like a good backup to me.
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From eHow:
Use Coca Cola to remove small scratches. Apply a small amount to a soft cloth and rub the scratches. Re-apply until the scratches are gone. The citric acid and carbonation in the soda help clean and remove small scratches in some items.
Read more: How to Remove Small Scratches From Window Panes | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4472970_remove-small-scratches-from-window.html#ixzz0uhmjVFLT
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LoL is that for real?
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LoL is that for real?
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LoL I guess it is... the link is there and I just read about it.
I think is the cheapest way to try to fix small scratches.. I think I will try on some old phones around the house LOL
Hello. I bought a galaxy note on 28th november. After only 2 weeks of absolutely normal and careful use, my screen is scratched and broken. Ok, it is a small crack, but it is not good.
It never fell and it never hit anything. After only 2 days, i noticed some scratchs and some other came in the days after. Then, the part of the screen between the upper edge and the speaker broke in two, with a crack (small, 5mm but still a crack) going from the edge to the speaker. I can't post a photo as i sent it back to samsung for repairs (it had also display issues). Do you know a reason for it? It should be gorilla glass, and i only kept it in my pockets without anything inside apart the smartphone. Do you think samsung will repair it since it happened during normal use after ONLY 2 weeks? I'm really annoyed and disappointed.
Anyone experiencing glass resistance issues?
Thanks
Call samsung and send it in they will fix it..
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Yes, i did it and i'm waiting, and i also adressed the lines issue and the green/banded screen, but i am in italy and i'm not sure if it is covered by warranty, it should: they can say i broke it.
The Corning Gorilla Glass was one reason I went with the SGS2.
The other reason was fear of provoking the wrath of God for having such a sensationally beautiful device (the Note). It's an awesome device, really.
But God smote those who worshiped a golden calf, too.
lol Sorry, I'm not really a religious fanatic. But yeah, sucks about your screen. Hope Sammy fixes that one up for you.
Welcome Nickelsilver and please don't take this personally and in NO way I'm defending Samsung or the Note but I have to say the neither scratches or dents/cracks come by their own.
They just don't happen/appear magically by themselves on the phone's screen/body. Maybe someone is messing with you Note without you knowing it?
E.g: I have 1mm small and barely noticeable scratch on the top left corner which I suspect it came from the ONLY 1 time my Note slipped from the passenger's seat and fell in the gap between the passenger's door/seat.
I went through 3 screens on my dell streak. Now that I have the note which is even bigger I was so cautious I treated it like a delicate fragile little flower. Needless to say after 2 weeks I noticed what appeared to be a scratch going up from the bottom middle halfway up. Turns out this is not a magical scratch that sprang out of nowhere but an actual crack on the outer glass screen. I have never dropped it but perhaps it was somehow flexed.
No warranty of course. I have ordered the glass itself from overseas and when it gets here in a month I suppose I will try replacing that piece individually as its only the outer glass that seems cracked. Hopefully they do not glue the screens together like they did in the streak ><
Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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To OP: im sorry to hear that....hope samsung can fix it for you quick.
Ps. Dont listen and worry about this guy...he thinks only his opinions are important and others experiences are just JUNKS and BORING! Not sure why he would even bother to reply, if they really bores him that much. Maybe he really thinks that he BOOFY the witch hunter or something
Plus.. He forgot that he has also once posted a question regarding to his screen problem too here on the forum.
Gorilla glass is bull****. I had dell 5 streak, and I changed the screen more than 5 times. Little drop will result in screen loss. Do not depend on gorilla glass.
My Samsung Galaxy Note are broke
Yesterday I was knocked out of the hands under my 40 days old Samsung Galaxy Note, the cover glass is cracked along its entire length as a spider's web, while the LCD screen is not damaged, that still works, receiving the touch command. The solution I found in the orders of the new protective glass over eBay. Maybe that was too much angry because it happened to me, but NOTE is too amazing, and I somehow survive.. I'll let it be when we come new safety glass
I do not think this is a witch hunt. More of an informative thread on one weakness to an otherwise amazing device. It may be that until an indestructive clear glass is created that we will continually face this on any large phone. Anything this large will flex easily and likely crack. One thing Samsung definately did right was not glue the glass to the LCD behind it. I put a clear screen cover over mine and you cant even see the crack anymore. Were this a dell streak you would have half of your screen blacked out.
This is definitely the best mobile device out there in my opinion, people should just be extremely cautious with where they carry it. Mine most likely cracked in my pocket from slight flexing.
The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
If the glass is breaking frequently on the notes,then I wonder if they really have Gorilla glass.
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The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
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Not proof.
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Not proof.
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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That demonstration glass at the beginning of the video is about 3 times thicker than what Samsung uses on the Note/Galaxy S2/Galaxy S SAMOLED panels. And it's quite a bit smaller, height/width wise (it's about iPhone 4 sized).
Thickness makes a significant difference in flexibility and shatter resistance. Which is off on a tangent, because the main reason Samsung and others uses GG and similar techniques is not for shatter resistance.
It's almost entirely for the combination of higher scratch resistance vs metals (all bets are off with sand particles) and a better tactile feel (it's smoother) than non-treated glass.
Sure it may not be as thick on the note but you are never going to flex the phone anywhere as much as that demonstration.
My point is that if it is gorilla glass,it shouldn't be that easy to crack the screen given the abuse that it is supposed to be able to take.
All these? Gorilla Glass
And all these? Gorilla Glass
How about all these? Gorilla Glass
Or maybe all these? Gorilla Glass
It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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The weight of the note will count against it during falls compared to say a very light phone like the SG2.Impact is going to be much harder if they both fell from the same height especially given te size of the notes screen.
Until they can make the note lighter,users will just have to be more careful not to drop it.Gorilla glass is not unbreakable.
I get my note tomorrow. Now I'm all paranoid
I am a Best Buy employee so should be no issue with getting an exchange. Looks like we have one of the 64GB AT&T ones in stock. Gonna be there bright and early to get mine exchanged.
I would advise everyone to keep an eye out.. I actually didn't notice it this morning. Around 6pm I noticed a black part on the screen and thought it was a glitch, so restarted but it was still there.
The line on the right side is just my temporary screen protector film. LOL. I bought an Invisishield and will install it on my replacement device tomorrow.
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I am a Best Buy employee so should be no issue with getting an exchange. Looks like we have one of the 64GB AT&T ones in stock. Gonna be there bright and early to get mine exchanged.
I would advise everyone to keep an eye out.. I actually didn't notice it this morning. Around 6pm I noticed a black part on the screen and thought it was a glitch, so restarted but it was still there.
The line on the right side is just my temporary screen protector film. LOL. I bought an Invisishield and will install it on my replacement device tomorrow.
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That's not a single deal pixel.
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That's not a single deal pixel.
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All good now.. got my replacement.
Also have installed a Invisible Shield.. After this picture was taken.
deepen915 said:
All good now.. got my replacement.
Also have installed a Invisible Shield.. After this picture was taken.
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Did you go with the regular or HD InvisibleShield? I'm not a big fan of their new alcohol swab method for activating the adhesive on the HD model. I ended up using left over spray from several previous InvisibleShield installs.
When I used the alcohol swab provided, it just left lint embedded in he adhesive and I ended up with a bunch between the glass and the screen protector. I saw it before I even began to squeegee, so I broke out the spray and went old school. Turned out perfect after that.
InvisibleShield really screwed up this new application method because it leaves no room for error.
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Did you go with the regular or HD InvisibleShield? I'm not a big fan of their new alcohol swab method for activating the adhesive on the HD model. I ended up using left over spray from several previous InvisibleShield installs.
When I used the alcohol swab provided, it just left lint embedded in he adhesive and I ended up with a bunch between the glass and the screen protector. I saw it before I even began to squeegee, so I broke out the spray and went old school. Turned out perfect after that.
InvisibleShield really screwed up this new application method because it leaves no room for error.
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I did get the HD model. Yeah the swab was horrible. Mine had issues it has some lint on the bottom right corner. Screen is fully visible but slightly cloudy. Good thing I only paid $5 as an employee lol. I'll just buy another.
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All good now.. got my replacement.
Also have installed a Invisible Shield.. After this picture was taken.
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Actually, your InvisibleShield screen protector doesn't look anything like mine. Mine covers completely to through the curved edges. Is your protector for a different device?
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I did get the HD model. Yeah the swab was horrible. Mine had issues it has some lint on the bottom right corner. Screen is fully visible but slightly cloudy. Good thing I only paid $5 as an employee lol. I'll just buy another.
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Yeah, thanks for affirming that. I'm pretty sure they did the whole thing as a huge cost saving measure. It damn sure wasn't an improved method to install.
If you compare the savings between the difference in cost for the little plastic liquid spray canisters they provided and the supposed new and improved cheap alcohol swabs, Zagg just made out like a bandit.
Their packaging and marketing keeps getting better and better, but their quality and service keeps getting worse and worse.
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Actually, your InvisibleShield screen protector doesn't look anything like mine. Mine covers completely to through the curved edges. Is your protector for a different device?
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No this pic is yesterday morning and is not an invisible shield lol I said I installed after I took the pic. Installed it last night and looks just like yours. How did u do it so perfectly? I think I messed up by not using the squeegee in one motion. I did sections and I think it dried as I was doing it. I have some cloudiness and lint on the bottom. I'll have to get a new one.
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No this pic is yesterday morning and is not an invisible shield lol I said I installed after I took the pic. Installed it last night and looks just like yours. How did u do it so perfectly? I think I messed up by not using the squeegee in one motion. I did sections and I think it dried as I was doing it. I have some cloudiness and lint on the bottom. I'll have to get a new one.
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I knew as soon as I saw that piece of crap alcohol swap that the new method was flawed. ZAGG has lost their damn minds!!
The whole point behind getting these types of screen protectors on right is to get them and your fingers sprayed down really good. Once both are pretty much soaking, I pinch the protector between my finger and slide off excess fluid which in turn takes the lint/dust with it. Then I spray just a bit more on and apply it. I get it aligned and squeegee. While you are squeegeeing (is that a word?) and you come across a bubble that isn't going away, it isn't a bubble. It's lint/dust. Simply lift the protector at the edge and spray or apply some additional soapy water with your sprayer or fingers and get it out of there. Carefully fold the screen protector back so as to not allow additional lint/dust to get under there while you were dealing with the last one.
I don't try to use the squeegee to get every bubble. I just get most of the water out. Once 90% of it's gone, I work the edges with my fingers and around things like home buttons and camera lenses and sensors.
I guess my point is, even though their new instructions call for the use of the new alcohol swap, the old soapy water trick works perfectly fine. Actually, better.
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I knew as soon as I saw that piece of crap alcohol swap that the new method was flawed. ZAGG has lost their damn minds!!
The whole point behind getting these types of screen protectors on right is to get them and your fingers sprayed down really good. Once both are pretty much soaking, I pinch the protector between my finger and slide off excess fluid which in turn takes the lint/dust with it. Then I spray just a bit more on and apply it. I get it aligned and squeegee. While you are squeegeeing (is that a word?) and you come across a bubble that isn't going away, it isn't a bubble. It's lint/dust. Simply lift the protector at the edge and spray or apply some additional soapy water with your sprayer or fingers and get it out of there. Carefully fold the screen protector back so as to not allow additional lint/dust to get under there while you were dealing with the last one.
I don't try to use the squeegee to get every bubble. I just get most of the water out. Once 90% of it's gone, I work the edges with my fingers and around things like home buttons and camera lenses and sensors.
I guess my point is, even though their new instructions call for the use of the new alcohol swap, the old soapy water trick works perfectly fine. Actually, better.
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Alright so I'll buy another one tonight and see if that works. Good advice, thanks.
Here is what mine looks like.
deepen915 said:
Alright so I'll buy another one tonight and see if that works. Good advice, thanks.
Here is what mine looks like.
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Looks pretty good to me. If your trying to get it closer to the edge, all I did was continue to work mine while it was still wet. Just a little at a time while I was working the water out from the center of the screen towards the edge.
Good luck man. Like I said, I think it looks great as it is now.
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Looks pretty good to me. If your trying to get it closer to the edge, all I did was continue to work mine while it was still wet. Just a little at a time while I was working the water out from the center of the screen towards the edge.
Good luck man. Like I said, I think it looks great as it is now.
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Got another one and did it again. Lint is gone now but got some micro bubbles. Let's see if it goes away. Not noticeable when screen is on.
Also even with no Zagg. I noticed some screen blemishes. Like it seems cloudy in some parts. I put brightness all the way while I was wiping it down to prepare the Zagg install. It's very noticeable. I may need to get my phone replaced again smh.
That completely sucks to hear about the cloudiness issue. I haven't heard of that one yet. I've heard of the swirls, scratches, and whites appearing yellow issues, but not the cloudiness.
I would lose my mind if I had to take a phone back twice for a screen related issue. It's probably not as big of a deal for you since you can do it while you're at work so to speak, but when your spending a grand on a phone, you just don't expect to have to take it back two times to be replaced.
Switching gears back to the bubbles in the Zagg. If you turn the screen on and they are barely noticeable, but with a slight prism light effect to them, you're fine. They'll dry up and be gone in hours.
If however you turn the screen on and see a shadow, it won't be going away when it's dried.
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That completely sucks to hear about the cloudiness issue. I haven't heard of that one yet. I've heard of the swirls, scratches, and whites appearing yellow issues, but not the cloudiness.
I would lose my mind if I had to take a phone back twice for a screen related issue. It's probably not as big of a deal for you since you can do it while you're at work so to speak, but when your spending a grand on a phone, you just don't expect to have to take it back two times to be replaced.
Switching gears back to the bubbles in the Zagg. If you turn the screen on and they are barely noticeable, but with a slight prism light effect to them, you're fine. They'll dry up and be gone in hours.
If however you turn the screen on and see a shadow, it won't be going away when it's dried.
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Yeah the Zagg is good enough for me.
And yeah I can see the cloudiness when scrolling on a white page in Chrome. I really don't want to have to exchange it again but may have to if it is really annoying me over the nextra few days.
It's like gray smudges going diagonally on the glass. I can't tell if its on the actual amoled panel or glass.
i have dead pixel on my Galaxy S6 Edge Plus
got the dead pixel after 4 Months using the phone.
how did i get a dead pixel??? i don't understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JbgaYIfdZo
seem's very small
do you think i should repair the phone?
I have read many mixed reviews of this glass screen protector here, on other forums, and on Amazon.
Amazon's the best, IMO, because you're reading product reviews from real everyday normal folks from all different walks, so the compilation of reviews includes the whole range of skill level.
Inarguably, the Whitestone Dome Glass protector is probably THE MOST difficult to install, save the fact that the kit includes an allignment jig that helps installation inmeasurably. I recently did this (this evening) and can't imagine attempting this without such a jig, though I understand similar UV activated glue is available to use with separately sold glass protectors.
So I'll start with some background info to set the scene for accuracy...
I'm a landscaper by day, but a jeweler part time. That means I chunk heavy crap around all day long like a farmer, but on the weekends I show off my dexterity like a watchmaker.
That's important, because this installation requires steady, confident hands, much forethought, patience, and it ain't cheap!
Sooooo...
Let me say that I was really nervous. I already accepted the idea that I might have to decide whether to purchase another one or go a different route and just choke on losing 45 dollars.
I watched 8 YouTube videos on installation, including one completely failed installation, and a demonstration on the removal of one.
The package arrived today but was outside the house in the cold. Of course I wanted to pop it on immediately, but figured that it should warm up to temperature first.
During that time I prepped my table. I used a marble to see if it was level. During preparation, i also prepared myself for the possibility of failure. LOL!
I layed out all of the items like I was about to perform surgery.
CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN!
Use those dust removal stickers! Even after you let the glue fall and remove the "bridge", check again for dust.
Don't flail about to much. That simply stirs up dust.
"Relax", is the best advice I can give. Peeling the backing off the glass from underneath it so dust that's in the air doesn't land on the inside surface sounds like a logical idea, and you should, but static from peeling it can become a pain.
If you're calm enough, you can do this just like the videos.
I wiped the edges after the first and second curing with the UV light. I did end up with excess flow out one side, and on the other side during the second wipe down, I had an ever so tiny bubble (if you'd even call it that) on the edge. The bubble was from wiping away the partially curred glue, which pulled a tiny, TINY bit out. (Literally one third the size of the exposed part of the SPen tip.)
I remedied this OCD-killer by using a toothpick dabbed in what remained at the top of the glue tube and simply touched it to the edge, which sucked it right in to fill the tiny void.
I used the UV light several times with the idea that it simply couldn't hurt to do it as often as I could.
My screen literally looks like a perfect install. Absolutely fantastic, as Sakitech would say!
I would say the skill level required for this is about average, but you really have only one chance to get it right, and there are a few steps that need to be followed perfectly or else they can trip you up.
Watch those videos. Many show people doing an imperfect installation with decent or good results, but after watching several you'll see just how to avoid mishaps.
On a different note, I did notice something very strange while utilizing the UV light; there is a weird shape in the center of the screen that shows up under the light. I have no idea what it is, but it shows as a slightly different color in the center third of the screen, nearly full length with rounded corners and perfectly symmetrical. I'm assuming it's an adhesive beneath the screen for the interactive SPen screen? I dunno. Kinda neat.
Anyway, after reading reviews stating problems with lifting of the edges of the Whitestone Dome, I figured I would contribute here by checking in and giving updates as to the longevity of this very beautiful, but slightly expensive and fiddly (to say the least) installing screen protector.
Feel free to ask any questions.
O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
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O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
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Same here with mine. Very satisfied. Nearly 3 months now and it's been rock solid for me.
Same here, great bit of kit.
Agreed - I love my Whitestone. It picked up a scratch, and I used the new warranty facility to replace it. It's not exactly cheap (around £20) to get the replacement, but it's better than having to buy one at full price.
This one ended up being a little more fiddly to install, but that was my fault - I allowed the LOCA to flow too far towards the bottom of the device before dropping the glass. I had tiny cluster of bubbles near the power switch which I worked out with some patience, and I also ended up sticking the jig together because I cured it for too long before removing the phone. However, the overall result is better than my original install, and I haven't had the touch up the edges of this one at all.
As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
jooniloh said:
As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Maybe I've just been getting bad batches? idk.
I've had no problems with mine. Looks and works great! My wife's has started to come up on a corner. It's because she was mishandling it and not realizing what she was doing. All the warnings that we are aware of she is basically unaware of because... I don't know. It's still working for her and doesn't bother her. I don't plan on using another brand when I have to replace hers.
After 3 months the glue went bad on mine and started peeling on a top corner, then it went down both sides over night. Frankly at £40, it needs to last a lot longer for that money.
So;
It's mid August, 6½ months after the installation and it still looks great.
To be fair I have to mention that I do have two phones I use on a daily basis, but the Note is used for many more hours a week as a tablet as compared to my naked S8+, which I really only use to make and take calls.
In other words, the Note sees a lot of touch screen activity.
The Whitestone is holding up much better than I expected, given all the problems I've read about it. I do have a very subtle problem spot on the right side edge right in the middle where it has started to bubble. Though it's really only visible at certain angles, and quite small, my OCD magnifies this visual defect a great deal for me! When I hand over my phone to someone (always reluctantly...LOL) to view a picture or an app, I still get compliments on the screen protector, and no one has ever pointed it out to me. (It is very small.)
IT HAS DONE IT'S JOB...
-At least once, because there's a small scratch in the surface of the glass. Again, another thing hardly noticable, but if it were in the screen itself of my Note, I would be very upset. (Give me 6 more months to get to the point where it's perfectly acceptable for this handheld device to show signs of use.)
A CORNER DID START TO LIFT...
Last month, the upper right hand corner developed a very small bubble. I knew right away from what I've read that this might be the start of the end of this screen's life. But I continually massaged the screen down many times, and it actually worked and resealed.
My take on this is that firstly, it's been ridiculously hot in my region. That might've helped with resealing. But secondly and most importantly, I never allow dust to get near my phone.
Dust is the enemy. A single microfiber particle between the screen and glass cover might've made resealing impossible. People pop their phones in their pocket all the time, and because the phones are dust proof now, it's even easier to take for granted what they are exposed to. As soft and protective as pockets are, they expose phones to a lot of dust. (Look at the lint trap in a clothes dryer!)
IN CONCLUSION...
I'll keep monitoring this thread to answer any questions, but I'll probably only post an update of when the Whitestone finally needs to be replaced. At that point I'll probably throw some photos up before I remove the old one.
As far as I'm concerned it has already exceeded my expectations of longevity, and I'll gladly be getting a replacement when the time comes. But I will continue to try to get the most life out of this one despite the small lift on the edge.
BTW...
The "problem" side of my screen is where it had less of the LOCA bleeding out of the edge during installation. Even though the puddle of adhesive was dead center when I dropped the glass on, when I wiped the excess from the edges, the right side had less run-off. Right now I'm wondering if I wiped the excess off of the edges too soon. During the next installation, I'll be sure to give more time for the glue to stay where it needs to.
COMPARED TO NO SCREEN PROTECTOR...
Well, I never, ever, ever have used any of my smart phones without a screen protector. But I finally grew weary of the cheap crappy edge-adhesive glass protector I had on my S8+, and threw it out! The screen would often not register touches, etc, and was an under-screen dust catcher. I havn't bought a Whitestone for it yet because I spend so little time using it that I keep forgetting. So for about 4 months, I've been using my S8+ with no protection save a case that does have a screen flap (like a wallet).
I have a small rub mark on the screen, hardly noticable, but it's there.
If and when I purchase a Whitestone for that phone, I'll post here as to whether or not the LOCA actually hides that mark, as I've read in other threads that it can hide existing scratches presumably because it fills them in (makes sense).
A FINAL PLUG FOR THE NOTE 8...
I doubt the NOTE 10/X will wow me enough to drop my 8 like a wet sock and bolt to the store. I do figure that it'll be feature-packed since the advances of the 9 weren't anything crazy special. But I'm far from tired of this phone and given what I paid for it, I expect I'll have it long enough to have to perform the inevitable battery replacement surgery before I finally upgrade.
I believe the Whitestone protection will help me stay that course. :good: