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Stupid screen protectors and Air Bubbles

So I had my original Att screen protector on my tilt for over 3 months..then this week I went to the tmobile store and bought screen protectors cuz mine was old and wear and tear set in. Come to find out when I get home and unbox it...its the kind that's not alrdy fitted for the phone screen and you have to cut it out and size it yourself..theirs a reason why like 15 screen pro's come in the box...I nearly went through the whole box trying to use scissors and cutting and itting the stupid things myself...I shoulda went to ATT cuz I think their screen pro's come fitted for touchscreens. Anyway after finally fitting it to my tilts screen..I got another problem, Air f#*king bubbles!....anybody have this issue and figured out how to put on screen pro's without stupid air bubbles?

use a card (credit card, atm, license) and smooth it out little by little when applying
works perfectly for me

The screen protector that came with my Tilt isn't EXACTLY the same size of the screen. I managed to put it on as soon as I had it in my hand (still in-store before paying the guy). The bottom of the screen looks perfect, but at the top of the screen there is a gap of uncovered screen about the 1/16th of an inch. Doesn't bother me though...

The best thing you can do to avoid air bubbles is to buy a quality, reusable screen protector. I bought mine 9 months ago from DayDeal.com, and it still works great. Since it not that super thin plastic, it goes on without any air bubbles. Well worth the $15.

I have ordered the Invisible Shield from http://www.zagg.com/
Haven't got it yet, so I can't share any personal experience, but this was highly recommended on a norwegian PDA forum.

Wow, my screen protector is on it's 10th month and it looks as good as the day I put it on. And it's a $5 cheapy one from Pocket Solutions.

I have been using the JavoScreen Ultra Clear screen protectors for a few years no, and have been very happy. They are completely removable, washable, replaceable without leaving residue; and they do not trap bubbles. Once applied, you literally cannot tell that it's there! They are a few more dollars than some other similar brands, but they are IMHO the best.

I've just given up on them. The glass feels better without one.

squeeze the big ones out by just pushing them off to the side with your fingers. the smaller ones should go away after a few days use.
on a side note, my screen protector that came with the phone SHIFTED somehow, and i cant move it back (well i dont want to peel it off and restick it). odd.

tdusen said:
I've just given up on them. The glass feels better without one.
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same here.

moegdaog said:
So I had my original Att screen protector on my tilt for over 3 months.. Come to find out when I get home and unbox it...its the kind that's not alrdy fitted for the phone screen and you have to cut it out and size it yourself..
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You guys will probably think I'm nuts, but I swear by WriteShield product from PocketPCtechs. Expensive, but worth it. The plastic they use is superior, it's absolutely crystal clear, and it's cut perfectly to fit.
I've experimented with other cheaper products that didn't last or didn't fit right. I've tried the cut-them-yourself products (boxwave) and they didn't work out right for me either. I went right back to the WriteShield and no worries.
At one time, I thought to myself that spending so much on screen protectors was nuts, and what they charge for shipping added insult to injury, but then I put it into perspective. What's it worth to protect a $600 machine? What's it worth to not have to be without the machine while I have my screen serviced and what would the combined cost of the hardware labor and inconvenience be?
I've used them on every PDA I've owned and I'll never look back. I have yet to find a better product out there.
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Hi,
Someone can say me if WriteShield Screen Protector fit exactly the screen size of the Kaiser without leaving some screen surface unprotected ? Or which one fit exactly the screen's size ?
Thanks in advance
Moo

VTECaddict said:
squeeze the big ones out by just pushing them off to the side with your fingers. the smaller ones should go away after a few days use.
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This
Plus, don't use a card to squeeze out the large bubbles -- I did this once and ended up with scratch marks. Just use your fingers, and the small ones should vanish with time.

Diamond Protection and anti finger print - invisibleSHIELD

invisibleSHIELD - Look it up for the Diamond my mate got it and it hardly shows any finger prints even after a days use and smudges whilst retaining the sheen of the device, also your back and front will be fully protected whilst keeping its form factor... if you have microscopic scratches like mine on screen that are obvious in well light conditions they will also disappear after application- ordered mine already...
Review and good pics... http://joeygadget.com/2007/08/15/on...-shield-screen-protector-for-iphone-and-treo/
They are available on ebay in most countries for Diamond - make sure you get the legit one as I am sure there are **** counterfits...

The ones for the iPhone are very hard to install and keep all of the little bubbles out, have plenty of patience when installing.

Although it is tough, the appearance after installation is extremely ugly.
Esp the screen.( no more grossy). I finally uninstalled it ( my wife said that my diamond is very ugly after the invisible shield, looks like an old PPC) and use other anti scratch screen protector and silicon case for body protection.

I have invisible shield for both 3g iphone and touch diamond...installation was easy actually but it doesnt look nice....u can tell theres something on the screen.
Would not recommend

I've already ordered one but couldn't installed it properly. It was very very hard and although I tried to be very carefully, still a lot of bubbles remained under the iShield. I put it off again and now I've got no screen protector anymore. Instead I use the original pocket case to wear the Diamond in my pocket. I think my fingers won't be able to scratch the display when touching it

Thanks for all the feedback
Interesting after install my friends one looked alright to me... hmmm I will post some pics after install and post my findings...
Anyone have a positive experience?

My friend's iPhone 3G looks MINT with it, literally can't tell it's there... But it was a ***** to install, especially around the corners.

I got one the other day and i'm sending it back, it looks apawling, far from invisible. I followed the instructions to the letter but couldn't get all of the little bubbles out, plus it just generally makes an expensive phone look like a piece of plastic junk.
Another thing is it doesn't actually cover the corners of the front of the phone so when i dropped mine the other day the corner got scratched.
Personally I wont use InvisibleSheild again as I believe their claims do not live up to the actual real world application.

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I got one the other day and i'm sending it back, it looks apawling, far from invisible. I followed the instructions to the letter but couldn't get all of the little bubbles out, plus it just generally makes an expensive phone look like a piece of plastic junk.
Another thing is it doesn't actually cover the corners of the front of the phone so when i dropped mine the other day the corner got scratched.
Personally I wont use InvisibleSheild again as I believe their claims do not live up to the actual real world application.
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Might make it look plastic, but I really can't say since my friend's iPhone IS plastic. Heh hopefully yours works out better, OP.

Mixed Views
Such mixed views - I have a feeling its down to having the patience to do the install properly - same my mates Diamond looks mint... hmmm

I had one of these for my Diamond and wasn't happy at all. I'm a very patient person but after a while it was just getting on my nerves. Trying to get it to bend around the case without leaving any air bubbles was just impossible. The parts that did stick down OK didn't look that nice either. It has a strange rubbery feel to it that I just don't like at all. I ended up ripping it off in frustration. Looked at their site and you can get your money back but you have to send it off to the states and I can't be bothered with the hassle or cost so I've just chalked it up as experience and will not recommend the product to anyone at all.

i bought and installed it right after getting my diamond. you can definetly see
that there's a protection layer on it and i wasn't at all satisfied for the first
week or so after application because the invisible shield felt sticky. it took me
the better part of 2 hours to get it right with no bubbles.
it's been some weeks now since installation and i'm pretty happy with the
shield. the stickyness is gone almost completely. i still can't slide my fingers or
stylus as smoothly over the touchscrees as without the shield tho.
in the end it's worth it for me because the device won't get any scratches at
all and i really hate scratches on my shiny devices

nuumuun said:
i bought and installed it right after getting my diamond. you can definetly see
that there's a protection layer on it and i wasn't at all satisfied for the first
week or so after application because the invisible shield felt sticky. it took me
the better part of 2 hours to get it right with no bubbles.
it's been some weeks now since installation and i'm pretty happy with the
shield. the stickyness is gone almost completely. i still can't slide my fingers or
stylus as smoothly over the touchscrees as without the shield tho.
in the end it's worth it for me because the device won't get any scratches at
all and i really hate scratches on my shiny devices
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Would be great if you can post some pics front and back at a few angles in high light - not too much too ask surely lol oh and maybe put a cherry on top.
But seriously some pics would be great...

[Q] So I got a scratch on my screen ... what now?

Hi there.
As the title reads I got a 3mm long scratch on the display of my galaxy ... the scratch distorts the colours, so it's quite annoying once you notice it (and it's particularly annoying on brighter backgrounds) ... I have absolutely no idea how it happened, as I am using a bag for it all the while it's in my pocket to prevent it from getting scratches...
Soo, my question:
Is there anything I can do to "fix" the scratch?

Once scratch happens, then it pretty much stays there.
Sometime a screen protectors can help hide the scratches make it less noticeable. Other than that there are no way to fix it I suppose.

Good screen protector hide all scratches.
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Please don't try this at home!
If the scratch isn't too deep then you may be able to polish it out with some wet/dry sandpaper.
But you may damage the touch screen if you go too deep.
Sent from my AWESOME Galaxy S

For ****s sake DO NOT take sand paper to the touch screen!! what kind of advice is that?
once scratched, that's it. if it really annoys you, you'll have to replace the screen.

Wet/dry sandpaper is how a clear coat is polished on a car. As I said if it isn't too deep then it's an option. What you are saying is that you are screwed anyway and have to replace it. If the OP is already at that point of frustration, then they could at least try before having to replace the screen.
Last resort before accepting your screen is stuffed?

At first I also thought what a silly idea to use sand paper on glass.
But after googling the web and quick research, it can be done!
Using high grit silicon carbide wet/dry sanding paper can remove scratches from glass.
Though, I wouldn't try it my self but thanks for the pointer.
here are an example of what can be done:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4472970_remove-small-scratches-from-window.html
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Wet/dry sandpaper is how a clear coat is polished on a car. As I said if it isn't too deep then it's an option. What you are saying is that you are screwed anyway and have to replace it. If the OP is already at that point of frustration, then they could at least try before having to replace the screen.
Last resort before accepting your screen is stuffed?
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Screen protector I would recommend to hide the scratches is the Zagg invisible shield.
It is made of polymer that kinda adhere to the screen very tightly help smooth over scratches and make them less noticeable compare to other brand.
BIG BIG DISCLAIMER:
Zagg invisible shield is NOT for everyone. The polymer material can feel sticky and a bit soft. So be warned, it is a love hate relationship when it comes to zagg.

Well i got 2 scratches one is 5mm long the other is 8mm. Fortunately they are on the far right side, close to the bezel, so they don't really bother me at all.
You got only one small scratch, that's nothing
Even that i had the first scratches on the second day i owned the device i will still not make it look ugly with some silly shield. Im expecting a year out of this device, and don't care if it's scratched when that year is gone.

If you change your mobile phone every year then I can understand.
However, my mobile phone lasted me at least 2-3 years each. My previous two was XDA O2 > Samsung Omnia i900 and now Galaxy S
buddy01 said:
Well i got 2 scratches one is 5mm long the other is 8mm. Fortunately they are on the far right side, close to the bezel, so they don't really bother me at all.
You got only one small scratch, that's nothing
Even that i had the first scratches on the second day i owned the device i will still not make it look ugly with some silly shield. Im expecting a year out of this device, and don't care if it's scratched when that year is gone.
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I noticed that the (super) AMOLED displays are relatively cheap in comparison to the traditional LCD screens that you can find on for example the HTC's. Here in the Netherlands I found a company that will repair/substitute a Galaxy S screen for 100 euro. (Compared to 250 euro for a HD2 screen) And I didn't search that hard. I bet that there are companies that do it for less.
If other solutions doesn't work for you, google the internet and look what the prices are for a new display in your neighbourhood. Maybe its much cheaper than you thought.

That's beyound any logic.
OLED/AMOLED screens are more expensive than LCD screens, 250$ for the HD2 screen is an overly blown-out price, you can find screens on ebay for less than half that price.
About sandpaper and whatnot- Yeah, high-grit sandpaper is a way to polish out scratches on glass.
I won't ever try it on the SGS, since i don't know where exactly is the digitizer layer.

You won't really need to replace the OLED screen, its the capacitive touch screen layer that needed to be change.
For my omnia i900, I have plenty of scratches on my screen and I replaced the touch layer at one of the local store for less than 40USD.

kcharng said:
You won't really need to replace the OLED screen, its the capacitive touch screen layer that needed to be change.
For my omnia i900, I have plenty of scratches on my screen and I replaced the touch layer at one of the local store for less than 40USD.
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aren't the touchsensors build in the screen itself? If I remember it well is the biggest advantage of super Amoled that it doesn't have a touch screen layer.

appelflap said:
aren't the touchsensors build in the screen itself? If I remember it well is the biggest advantage of super Amoled that it doesn't have a touch screen layer.
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Indeed that is the case. The SAMOLED screens have the touch technology integrated into the screen so you will have to replace the entire screen.
But someone found 100euros for a replacement in Holland... can you post a link to that? Seems like a good backup to me.

If its not insured, then get it insured and claim the repairs of the insurance. Accidental damage should cover it.

outch, didn't know. best keep it scratch-less then.
Darkstriker said:
Indeed that is the case. The SAMOLED screens have the touch technology integrated into the screen so you will have to replace the entire screen.
But someone found 100euros for a replacement in Holland... can you post a link to that? Seems like a good backup to me.
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From eHow:
Use Coca Cola to remove small scratches. Apply a small amount to a soft cloth and rub the scratches. Re-apply until the scratches are gone. The citric acid and carbonation in the soda help clean and remove small scratches in some items.
Read more: How to Remove Small Scratches From Window Panes | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4472970_remove-small-scratches-from-window.html#ixzz0uhmjVFLT
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Arkymedes said:
From eHow:
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LoL is that for real?
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ogen said:
LoL is that for real?
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LoL I guess it is... the link is there and I just read about it.
I think is the cheapest way to try to fix small scratches.. I think I will try on some old phones around the house LOL

[Q] HD7 Gorilla Glass?

Hi,
Can anyone help? I've been trying to find out if the glass used on the HD7 is Gorilla Glass (or an equivalent). A student of mine showed me how to drag a screwdriver up and down a Desire HD screen with no affect whatsoever, so I'm hoping the HD7 is built of the same stuff. I'm also rubbish at putting screen protectors on
Cheers...
YT

From what I was told at Mobile media, It is a gorilla screen/equivalent.

Why don't you try the same with the screwdriver and let know how did that work out for you?
LOL.... Why do you care dude. Personally, I use a full transparent sleeve for my device which is not silicon or hard plastic, but fixable. This cover, does not allow the screen to touch the surface when the phone is put screen down. So I have removed the screen protector.
So, if you have something like that, I guess you are fine without the screen protector. I usually put my phone in my pockets which have my car keys or coins and my cig lighter and stuff. They never scratched the screen.

VizagDude said:
Why don't you try the same with the screwdriver and let know how did that work out for you?
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... Lol... stramgely enough my student offered to test it
VizagDude said:
LOL.... Why do you care dude.
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... it's pretty, shiny and expensive. I'd hate to have a scratch on my phone... sooner scratch my car
VizagDude said:
Personally, I use a full transparent sleeve for my device which is not silicon or hard plastic, but fixable. This cover, does not allow the screen to touch the surface when the phone is put screen down. So I have removed the screen protector.
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... I've never scratched any of my phone screens but was hoping to get away from the faf of fitting screen protectors. I mostly use a leather pouch unless I know the phone is safe in a fleece pocket.
VizagDude said:
So, if you have something like that, I guess you are fine without the screen protector. I usually put my phone in my pockets which have my car keys or coins and my cig lighter and stuff. They never scratched the screen.
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... think I can stop being paranoid, but it would be nice to know what screens they use. Most other manufacturers tell you.
Thanks for your reply

Unfortunately, im not sure what its made of but ive already scratched it from standard keys in pocket

No HTC device use gorilla glass, an equivalent, maybe, but not the actual trademarked GG.

Thanks for all the replies... looks like I'm going to have to fight with those damned screen protectors again

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Yorkshiretaff said:
Thanks for all the replies... looks like I'm going to have to fight with those damned screen protectors again
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The best screen protectors I know of are from Zagg and Bodyguardz. They are both Military Grade. From experience I would choose Bodyguard. Zaggs are easy to find in stores though. Use both a screen protector and hard case, it goes hand in hand.

I never used a screen protector on my HD2 and it is completely scratch-free. I don't have one on my HD7 either and again, no scratches.
Having said that, I have a golden rule of never putting my phone in a pocket together with anything hard (oo-er!). My keys always go in a different pocket.
Glass is generally quite hard to scratch though.
It'd be really cool if they made phone screens out of a slice of man-made white sapphire like they use on Rolex watches. That stuff is the second hardest transparent substance known to man, second only to diamond. Mind you, that might put the price up a bit, my Submariner was over three grand....

I had my HD7 since it came out, no screen protector, no pouch, no scratches at all.

Well, my asnwer is a little late, but...
Corning lists the HD7 (along with many other HTC phones) as a Gorilla Glass devices.
I can't post the link since I'm a new user.
But check out corninggorillaglass[dot]com/featured-products
Although, my HD7 already has scratches. It had them after about a week. Just from having it in my pocket.

Really..
I was trying to find that information out also, funny that Corning lists our HD7s as having Gorilla Glass because I have micro scratches on mine also. Hmm....
My HD2, which they list also is smashed to pieces from a drop of about 2 1/2 feet on the ground. Either the glass isn't as tough as they say or somewhere they're dropping the ball on certain phones (USA maybe?).
Cyph

HTC phones were never listed has having GG before until recently. Leads me to believe that the ones use by HTC are not the same because I seriously doubt some of the earlier phones have em. It looks like they pretty much just put their whole entire lineup on there.

It has
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#products-with-gorilla

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It has
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#products-with-gorilla
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My HD7 picked up a tiny scratch after 3 days use. The screen scratches, period.
Buy a screen protector and forget all about what make of glass it is, its glass which needs protection.

Im considering getting a HD7 (To replace my Motorola MileStone) & the screen is my biggest concern
Can the HD7 take a hit or survive a fall ? without the screen being shattered into pieces ?
I knew some who dropped his HD2 & the screen got shattered & it costs (eql. 300 USD) to fix it in Saudi Arabia , which more than the price of a new HD2 these days
I can't have a sensitive phone like that ,especially coming from Motorola MileStone (now thats one tough phone , you won't believe what my MileStone survived)
I really like the HD7 (& the Windows Phone 7 platform) , but if thats means I've to replace the screen every time the phone falls from me , I think I'll better off with a Motorola Atrix running Launcher 7
Thanks for your help

IceDree said:
Im considering getting a HD7 (To replace my Motorola MileStone) & the screen is my biggest concern
Can the HD7 take a hit or survive a fall ? without the screen being shattered into pieces ?
I knew some who dropped his HD2 & the screen got shattered & it costs (eql. 300 USD) to fix it in Saudi Arabia , which more than the price of a new HD2 these days
I can't have a sensitive phone like that ,especially coming from Motorola MileStone (now thats one tough phone , you won't believe what my MileStone survived)
I really like the HD7 (& the Windows Phone 7 platform) , but if thats means I've to replace the screen every time the phone falls from me , I think I'll better off with a Motorola Atrix running Launcher 7
Thanks for your help
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The screen is glass, yes it will shatter! Best suggestion is buy a good case.

little random...but i suggest an anti glare, matte screen protector to everyone! pretty awesome....and its drastically eliminated finger prints, hated having to wipe the screen all the time.

I have dropped my HD7 3 times so far, but I have an aluminum case from pdair. Has totally been worth the case. Otterbox also has a commuter case. I think with the right case they're ok.
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I personally think the build quality of the HD2 is better than HD7. Since the HD2 is a completely candybar, doesn't like the HD7 on the top and bottom part. I dropped my HD2 several times, put to the same pockets but there was no damage that can be seen clearly outside. But that story doesn't happen with my HD7. One drop to hard surface, on the pockets as daily use = one noticeable scratch,one small dot crack inside the screen + damages outside.
Make me want to have another phone right now, but there is no point to buy a Windows Phone right now since the Mango come with Skype and front camera, maybe a better CPU...

Adding a second screen protector on top of installed one

Wondered if anyone had done this. I am considering adding a second film protector on top of the pre installed protector from Samsung.
It says be careful of scraping nails on screen and I've noticed that it actually happens often that I scrape a touch of my nail harder than I should.

This seems like a very poor idea. It would affect image quality and might even affect touch sensitivity. I imagine it would just end up pulling up the factory screen protector anyway.

Spinachy said:
Wondered if anyone had done this. I am considering adding a second film protector on top of the pre installed protector from Samsung.
It says be careful of scraping nails on screen and I've noticed that it actually happens often that I scrape a touch of my nail harder than I should.
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You should install not 1 but 10 or 20 more soft screen protectors in top of the one already applied!
What you need to do is remove the one already applied and enjoy the best quality of your 2k smartphone, if something happens before Dec 2021, pay the 150 and get a new inner display installed by Samsung! Enjoy at least a full year of your phone!
Ive owned both the Fold1 and now the Fold2 and being using them as dsily driver banging the phone around with tools and boxes while i do mechanic jobs! These phones are tank! My wife has long finger nails and never had a single scratch! Lets be honest, who tap their phone with a finger nail? Come on!
My 2 cents! Peace out...

Granted screen protectors are made to flex, the more you stack on top of each other, the less they'll flex. It'll cause it to stiffen and put pressure on the display. Doesn't seem like a good idea lol.

megaghostgamer said:
Granted screen protectors are made to flex, the more you stack on top of each other, the less they'll flex. It'll cause it to stiffen and put pressure on the display. Doesn't seem like a good idea lol.
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Yeap... that fold line is trouble.
It's also possible the plastic and/or adhesive could be reactive with factory one turning it into a gooey mess over time.

I'm actually thinking of doing this too. I prefer matte screen protectors to the shiny, fingerprint magnet that came with it. Maybe we could have the existing protector replaced with something else at the Samsung store or something.