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If it's root only...?

If we can only get this thing rooted and not fully unlocked, then will we still be able to have wireless tethering and overclocking, because I know in order to do that you need a modiffied kernel, Right? The only way to flash a new kernel is the same way you would flash a custom rom. Please correct me if I'm wrong!!!

You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.

Riztnack said:
You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.
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But not overclocking, I believe.

x.v_ said:
But not overclocking, I believe.
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I'm pretty sure you can overclock with just root. The Milestone can be overclocked, and that only has root.

thats good, so to me the only major reason why we would want to be able to flash different roms is so we can get the latest version of Androis ASAP! Otherwise once 2.2 hits the DX we only need root to do the other awsome things! I only care for Overclocking, wireless tethering, titanium backup, and deleting system apps, and a few other random apps requiring root!

What about modifying themes heavily?
Having using a Blackberry in the past, one of the best things about it was the fact that the main theme could be heavily modified, (and often very easily via quick downloads) to show such things as upcoming calendar events, missed calls, and the intros of recent texts and emails; all on one screen at the same time, as well as weather and time. I don't really need apps on my main screen as much as a proper log of what I've missed, is coming up, etc..
The "Today" theme, in its many variations is a common example.
Is this something that's possible just by being rooted? Is this possible without even being rooted? Do any Android phones that are fully hacked open even have the possibility to re-arrange their home screen in a such a way?
I've seen that a calendar and weather/time can be easily done, but I'm looking for something kind of like this (it would show newly unchecked emails and texts if there are any, and rolling over the calendar reveals upcoming events):
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Here's a similar type I also used, that is less minimalistic:
hulkster1970.com/theme/9000/v2/v2_13.jpg
Of course these I used on a much small BB Bold 9000 screen, so I can't imagine what the Droid X could do, if these types of modifications are possible?
Root enough for that? Fully unlocked enough? Just not possible, and I expect too much?
Thanks,
--bb

If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.

wireless tethering is the only thing I care for NOW.
maybe when Gingerbread comes out then I want some

Irishpride said:
If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.
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That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.

can a phone with root only access be flashed to other carriers such as cricket or would you need access to the bootloader?

By the way guys, P3 and Birdman are saying that this might take a very long time to get rooted if not never.

bladebarrier said:
That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.
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That is pretty cool. Kind of reminds me of my WinMo 6.5 home screen to be honest.

I thought the same thing.

@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong

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@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong
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Birdman said point-blank, 4+ months for root.
http://twitter.com/mrweeeedbirdman
"If you want a rootable phone, wait 4 months or so on your droid x." Posted July 9th at 11:18pm PST.
However, he's giving cryptic hints today that there's some big news coming about the Droid X. Maybe we're in luck.

Don't need root for BT tethering
BT thethering is already working out of the box with Windows 7 and Linux.
There is another thread in general I think where I've given some instructions. Don't need to pay for tethering.

[Q] Could it be? A full Milestone Root??

http://software2tech.com/tag/how-to-root-motorola-milestone-xt701/
It's called Easy Root. It supposedly uses some new BlueTooth Exploit.
Apparently this is a full milestone root that allows overclocking tethering and stuff, I will get back when I try it and confirm it works.
In the mean time, has anyone tried it?

I think it will work. I used universal androot and everything worked fine with it.

I use it, it works fine.

i dont see whats so hard about swapping .sbf files and dropping an update...
are people really too lazy to get things done anymore?
..everyone seems to just want an "easy button"

Personally I don't think things should be too easy...sometimes people do things without fully understanding what they're doing, then show up for warranty service/tech support and are kicked out of the room

Ph0z3 said:
i dont see whats so hard about swapping .sbf files and dropping an update...
are people really too lazy to get things done anymore?
..everyone seems to just want an "easy button"
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This has nothing to do with the simplicity, and everyone to do with Donny's OS. He's exclusively a Mac user, which means there's suddenly a lot of things that are so hard about swapping .sbf files, seeing as Motorola decides that the third largest computer producer in North America doesn't need RSD Lite. He's looking for a one-click root on recommendation from another thread in this forum.
You should consider all possibilities before judging someone for their methods.

GlitchZero said:
This has nothing to do with the simplicity, and everyone to do with Donny's OS. He's exclusively a Mac user, which means there's suddenly a lot of things that are so hard about swapping .sbf files, seeing as Motorola decides that the third largest computer producer in North America doesn't need RSD Lite. He's looking for a one-click root on recommendation from another thread in this forum.
You should consider all possibilities before judging someone for their methods.
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Thanks a lot man, it's true thoughh! I am actually pretty tech savy, I used to have an iPhone and decided to switch to android because I got bored. I just didn't realize there was little Mac compatibility. I am still just trying to figure this whole thing out

Is this supposed to be a full root? as in the milestone kernel?
Regards, PK

I have no idea what you mean by "as in the milestone kernel" as I'm sure you know, we cannot touch the Kernel.
As by full root, I believe this is "Level 1" root (?) - though I maybe corrected on this.

Sounds like you know exactly what I am talking about. Yes I was talking about what you refer to as "level 1" root. Long-shot & wishful thinking but a fair question don't you think? "Root" on every other phone I have means just that.
Overwhelming yes, but "never"? Know how many times the frigging pentagon gets compromised everyday? This is a frigging cell phone, nasty encryption yes but there's more than one way to skin a cat...who knows.
Anyway the points moot, if the chattering class is on target the milestone "kernal" is already out there being fiddled with...supposedly on it's way.
PK

It works - easy peasy.
donnydotter said:
It's called Easy Root. It supposedly uses some new BlueTooth Exploit.
Apparently this is a full milestone root that allows overclocking tethering and stuff, I will get back when I try it and confirm it works.
In the mean time, has anyone tried it?
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It works - easy peasy.

pk2 said:
This is a frigging cell phone, nasty encryption yes but there's more than one way to skin a cat...who knows.
PK
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Very true , sadly there was no big interest from dev/ hackers to succeed at doing this , now this phone is already considered an old phone ( 11 months old) so chances are 'cat' will be out of the bag and nobody will care anymore ..
I like the device enough to consider the XT720 if the fastboot trick would allow us to boot custom kernel ... sadly I will probably be on the hunt for another TRUE DEV phone this time .

DAGr8 said:
I like the device enough to consider the XT720 if the fastboot trick would allow us to boot custom kernel
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..i boot from fully off, to fully loaded in about 9 to 12 seconds... restart only takes about 34 seconds to complete the cycle. Not sure why everyone is flipping-shiz about this fast-boot thing. Just look around and try some roms and edit them up some.
The TelusLite v5 rom boots around 15 seconds by default. You can lower it by adding in mem-hack and overclocking it.

WIll carrier undetected, hotspot tethering be possible?

I have a rooted Note 4 on Verizons Grandfathered Unlimited Data plans and I use hotspot tethering every day.
Is it safe to say that this will not be possible on the Note 8?
THank you for any input.

If you root you can remove tethering flags, alternatively most roms have them removed. Don't know about the options without root, maybe someone else will chime in on those.

If you search the s8+ threads there have been posts about Hotspot without root being successful...I'm going to try the same methods when I get my black unlocked note 8 for sprint...if I find the threads later, I'll update this with the link.
Update:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-enable-hotspot-t3675986/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/themes/mod-hotspot-bypass-root-msl-required-t3671061

krabman said:
If you root you can remove tethering flags, alternatively most roms have them removed. Don't know about the options without root, maybe someone else will chime in on those.
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BlueFox721 said:
If you search the s8+ threads there have been posts about Hotspot without root being successful...I'm going to try the same methods when I get my black unlocked note 8 for sprint...if I find the threads later, I'll update this with the link.
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I'm rooted and got tethering to work, but did you ever find an alternative to be able to tether without rooting? This 80% battery issue kind of gets me. I don't mind being stock for now if I could find a tethering method that works. FoxFi is a no go. I haven't tried flashing unlocked firmware. I'm a little afraid to. I heard the coverage might not be as good. Any thoughts?

scottsdca said:
I'm rooted and got tethering to work, but did you ever find an alternative to be able to tether without rooting? This 80% battery issue kind of gets me. I don't mind being stock for now if I could find a tethering method that works. FoxFi is a no go. I haven't tried flashing unlocked firmware. I'm a little afraid to. I heard the coverage might not be as good. Any thoughts?
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Yeah...I posted a way a while ago. I forgot about this post though...there is another method as well but it requires you to toggle data on and off to get it working each time...I'll post it too...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-enable-hotspot-t3675986/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/themes/mod-hotspot-bypass-root-msl-required-t3671061

Flash unlocked firmware, I have unlocked note 8 on GF UDP, tethering works fine. Also worked fine on S8+

or, you could always just pay for the bandwidth that you are STEALING from us "fools" that actually pay for what we use..

wase4711 said:
or, you could always just pay for the bandwidth that you are STEALING from us "fools" that actually pay for what we use..
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Not STEALING bandwidth...just sharing what we are already paying for with our laptops...

fine, as long as you are only "sharing" the amount of gigs that you actually pay for..if thats the case, then why is this thread titled "carrier undetected"? If you aren't stealing or violating TOS, then why does it have to be "carrier undetected"?

Saafir said:
Lol... this guy.
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LOL @ YOU ...

Intelligent Hub apk bypass?

I have a Samsung S10 SM-G973U Android 10 (Q) work phone with Intelligent Hub installed(security apk) and wish to bypass/uninstall it. I have tried every method that I am aware of minus rooting/flashing and such.....which is possibly the only way to get around this stupid app.
Is there anyone with experience with "Hub" or possibly knows of a way to bypass it and therefore uninstall it.
I could throw a reward out for success.

Is this phone owned by you or is owned by the organization you work for?
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company... which is why i need to find a work around while keeping it stock
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Is this phone owned by you or is owned by the organization you work for?
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I wouldn't recommend that. I'm certain that you signed something that says you are not supposed to add or remove apps, root, or do anything to the device without the organization's consent.
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irishvandal said:
I have a Samsung S10 SM-G973U Android 10 (Q) work phone with Intelligent Hub installed(security apk) and wish to bypass/uninstall it. I have tried every method that I am aware of minus rooting/flashing and such.....which is possibly the only way to get around this stupid app.
Is there anyone with experience with "Hub" or possibly knows of a way to bypass it and therefore uninstall it.
I could throw a reward out for success.
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I hardly think that someone can be found here who gives hack instructions!

ed-gonzo said:
I hardly think that someone can be found here who gives hack instructions!
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Well stated, and thank you!??

Root or Not Root that's the question

Hi together,
I am wondering which benefits I can expect from rooting my device.
One thing that comes to my mind is having an option to use face unlock for older unlock APIs.
What do you guys think?

Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.

jljtgr said:
Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.

SeppGoPro said:
To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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I hear you. Rooting used to be fun and easy but it's more work than I want to deal with at this point.
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using XDA Labs

It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....

jljtgr said:
It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
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It takes more time, which you actively have to spend. It's not like ow there is an update. Ok install done.
You have to go through all steps. You have to e.g. change settings in build.prop again. Flash kernel or what ever.
One example with rooted and problems with apps I'm always unsure if it's due to root or due to the rom. Stuff like this.

I don't have to do either of those things. My build.prop changes are systemlessly handled by a Magisk module that just works as soon as I'm rooted again. YMMV.
I've spent more time writing in this thread than my monthly process takes. If you don't have that time, then fine. You've answered your own question?

I've rooted all my devices except the pixel ones. There's absolutely no need for me to root a pixel device, everything is working as I want out of the box. That's one reason that development for the pixel 4/xl is nearly non existent.

ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Yes this would be the only reason for me.

first reason finger face
second reason motion sense..
now on android beta 2.5 not rooted

Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way

fuarkgl3 said:
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
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Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Pull it down for half a sec.

Mackay53 said:
Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
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Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply

fuarkgl3 said:
Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
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Because many people like what Android has to offer over iOS, simple. Rooting isn't as useful as what it used to be

Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...

xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.

xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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Google pay works right now for me and I'm rooted running 11 beta 2.5.

fr0st420 said:
From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
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I want to root so I can run ProtonVPN (or any VPN really) alongside Adguard. You can't run them side x side without root....
Admittedly a little sick of the whole big brother thing, so wouldn't mind obscuring my traffic a bit.