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If you are only into the latest and greatest hardware, and have to have dual core CPU's, this is not for you!
If you are actually interested in this phone, hopefully this will be of some help
Form Factor & Appearance
First off, this phone feels great in the hand. I don't have particularly large hands, and the Desire HD felt a bit too big, but this is perfect. It's nice to hold in landscape in two hands, or to use in one handed operation. The materials are nice and expensive feeling, very strong and sturdy construction, and it has enough weight to feel expensive without being heavy. The soft touch rubberised back is comfy to hold in the hand (even with the big ridge). From a looks perspective, to me it is a very attractive phone (from the front it looks like an iPod touch without the home button), very clean lines with almost the entire of the front being taken up by the 4" screen. The 4 capacitive buttons are accurate and responsive, and the rotating feature is a nice touch. They are completely invisible when not lit, which gives the phone a very clean appearance when the screen is off.
Screen - 4" SLCD
Let me start by saying yes, next to an AMOLED or a SAMOLED the colours do not 'pop' as much, but it is in my opinion a lot clearer (this may not be true of SAMOLED+ as that no longer uses pentile, but I have no way of comparing). In short it is a very nice screen. It is crisp and clear, and the colours are accurately represented to my eyes. Pictures and videos are sharp and pleasing to look at, and I have read for an hour on the Kindle app without problem. Games like Angry Birds look bright and colourful, but blacks are deep enough to not distract when watching a movie in the dark.
Horsepower - 1GHz MSM8255 Snapdragon & 768MB RAM
This thing is snappy. I am beginning to wonder what this dual-core noise is about as this phone literally flies through screens without a hint of lag or stutter. Whether it be browsing the web, playing games, adding contacts or using the sat-nav, I have not noticed a single hint of slowdown. I used a wide range of what I would consider to be fairly hardware intensive apps, including Angry Birds, Raging Thunder, Asphalt and CoPilot all of which ran without a hitch. For the benchmark junkies it linpacked ~ 38 MFLOPS, Neocore'd ~ 57 FPS and Quadranted ~ 1700.
Storage - 1.1GB Internal App Storage & 8GB Class 4 SDHC (Bundled)
Although I would like all internal storage, I am happy with the current arangement of > 1GB app storage and microSD cards. 1GB is more than enough for me, and I am planning to add a 32GB Class 10 microSD at the end of this month (here is the cheapest I have found if you are interested). Some may find this OK, some might want all internal storage, matter of personal preference really.
Cameras - 8MP Rear facing inc. Dual LED Flash & 1.3 MP Front Facing
The camera on the back is one of the nicest Android shooters I have had the privilege to use. Pretty sure it is the same as the one on the Desire HD, it takes clear crisp and bright pictures, the auto focus and face detection working quickly an accurately, and the time between being able to take photo's is very minimal (even when tested with a crappy Class 2 SD at 8MP!). The LED's provide very harsh, bright and unflattering lighting, but as no one appears to want to put a proper Xenon flash on an Android phone, it's the best we can get . They do however make for an excellent flashlight, and can be used with video recording. The camera can record 720p footage at 30FPS, and is pretty standard fare, while you won't be recording the next hollywood blockbuster on it, it is more than good enough for your next YouTube masterpiece of "Guy falling off skateboard" . The zoom level is not fixed for camera recording either, which is a nice feature to have.
The front facing camera is bog standard, good enough for video calling, and works well as a pocket mirror.
Battery - 1450 mAh
The battery life on this surprised me, especially after the Desire HD. HTC seemed to have learnt from their mistakes as this phone can get through more than 24 hours with fairly heavy usage. Might take a few more days to get a more acurate idea of how it will last, but I am pleasantly surprised
Other Notable Features -Notification LED, Dual Mics & FM Radio
An annoying feature missing from the samsung and Motorola phones, HTC have included a notification LED on the Incredible S (much to my delight). A small feature, but a much needed one and worth noting IMHO. The dual mics for noise cancellation work well and are a welcome feature, and something some have been phasing out is the FM radio. It hasn't been turned off yet!
And now for the cons...
This phone isn't without it's downsides. If I were putting together a list of improvements...
Better loudspeaker - the loudspeaker is very weak, and could do with improving.
Xenon Flash - Missing from all Android phones IMHO
Dedicated Camera Button - I don't see why people keep missing this simple yet much needed feature
Mini HDMI Port - It includes DLNA support, but a mini HDMI port would have been nice
Conclusion
HTC say this phone sits between the Desire S and the Desire HD, but I beg to differ. To me this is a Desire HD 1.5. Not a revolution of the flagship, but a marked improvement in several areas. The change in design and the slight shrink in screen size make it more comfortable to hold an easier to sit in the pocket. The smaller screen also helps the larger battery to fix the major flaw in the DHD, and the front facing camera makes the phone relevant n a world where video calling is trying to become popular (again, am I the only one who had a video mobile phone 8 years ago?!). I would recommend this phone to anyone looking for an upgrade now, unless you want to wait for the dual core craze to begin.
This phone was purchased at Carphone Warehouse on Vodaphone, 24 Months @ £30 with 500 min, unlimited texts and 500MB internet (free phone).
Note: I actually got this phone for my Fianceé as she was due an upgrade. She had a Samsun Pixon M8800 and she thinks it's the best thing in the world ever, and hasn't spoken to me for two days as she has been too engrossed in it . I am seriously considering one as an upgrade from My Hero, and will probably have my own before tomorrow is finished. I will upload some pics of the device, and sample footage and pics from the camera when I get the chance
Great review!
Can you confirm AWS band on the Incredible S?
GSMArena used to have a 900/1700/2100 HSPDA band spec for this phone, but has now changed it to 900/2100.
I want to import for T-Mobile USA, but need to know if it supports AWS.
Great review, I have exact same deal from Carphone as you, and i am delighted with the phone, it is truly awesome. I agree with everything you said, except I am not so sure about the battery life. Mine has not had a great deal of use today, but its been off charge for only 12 hours and I reckon it will need to go on the charger pretty soon if I do a bit of surfing this evening. Cheers
Bands are as follows:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Hope that helps!
Thanks for this review... One thing i wanted to ask was how "fingerprinty" does the phone get?
I'll be upgrading from the HTC Hero, which has stood up quite well thanks to the efforts of various devs.
I'm also planning on buying it handset only as i'm on an amazing phone plan and i'd rather get lower line rental than the free phone! Prices i've seen are around £480-£500... not yet sure if it's worth that.
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Thanks for this review... One thing i wanted to ask was how "fingerprinty" does the phone get?
I'll be upgrading from the HTC Hero, which has stood up quite well thanks to the efforts of various devs.
I'm also planning on buying it handset only as i'm on an amazing phone plan and i'd rather get lower line rental than the free phone! Prices i've seen are around £480-£500... not yet sure if it's worth that.
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Much better than those plastic phones i.e Samsung Gal S & Neux 2. The screen will get fingers prints (as per most phones) but the back is covered in a rubber coating which is nice to grip and leaves no prints, unless the fingers were covered in grease in the first place
Note: CPW £449 pay as you go.... Their phones are unlocked. I know cos I have brought my last 3 handsets inc the HTC Incred S from CPW
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If you are actually interested in this phone, hopefully this will be of some help
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Very much so, best run down I have seen upto now! Thanks for the taking the time out and I look forward to hearing more from you and seeing the pics you are planning to upload.
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Prices i've seen are around £480-£500... not yet sure if it's worth that.
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Totally agree especially given that HTC market this as being 'in between' the Desire and the Desire HD. Should it not therefore hold an in between price tag too?
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Note: CPW £449 pay as you go.... Their phones are unlocked. I know cos I have brought my last 3 handsets inc the HTC Incred S from CPW
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Nice tip, thanks for that, still pricey but a little less painful I guess!
I actually went back today and got my own, so I will upload all the pics & video tomorrow. I am also looking into rooting it as no devs appear to have picked one up, but I am not making any promises, I am working pretty much totally off the internet and what info I can piece together
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I actually went back today and got my own, so I will upload all the pics & video tomorrow. I am also looking into rooting it as no devs appear to have picked one up, but I am not making any promises, I am working pretty much totally off the internet and what info I can piece together
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Hah, so you and your other half are sat in silence now as you both play with your new toys I take it? ;-p
Excellent, great to hear. I think it's early days for the devs at the moment and when it starts to show on Verizon etc state side I think we can expect more from this - after all, it's always only a matter of time isn't it
Thanks for your input, I am considering picking one of these up myself as I really do not want anything above 4" and the only real 'superphones' that have come out of MWC 2011 are 4.3 - with the exception of some of the lesser tried and tested makes.
The speaker REALLY puts me off though, I had really hoped HTC would have learned their lesson!
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Hah, so you and your other half are sat in silence now as you both play with your new toys I take it? ;-p
Excellent, great to hear. I think it's early days for the devs at the moment and when it starts to show on Verizon etc state side I think we can expect more from this - after all, it's always only a matter of time isn't it
Thanks for your input, I am considering picking one of these up myself as I really do not want anything above 4" and the only real 'superphones' that have come out of MWC 2011 are 4.3 - with the exception of some of the lesser tried and tested makes.
The speaker REALLY puts me off though, I had really hoped HTC would have learned their lesson!
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I personally use the headphones and don't use the loudspeaker, but I can see it being a turn off if it is important to you. I don't mind it for watching a youtube video and turning on SRS helps, but it is still pretty tinny. I wish I had a DHD to compare to so I could let you know how it matches up, but I don't know anyone with one
Well from my short time with both devices I can say that neither are great but the DHD seemed marginally better to me. That said, I spent a good few days with the DHD in different ambient conditions whereas I spent minutes with the Incredible S and was only able to listen to the audio supplied on the phone which to be fair is a poor example.
I don't want to listen to music on the phone but as I say, watching video's / clips the tinny sound is very grating. Seriously considering getting one on an 'able to return' basis though to see if I can put up with it as this phone seems to have everything else I want.
Maybe someone else with this and the DHD will be able to comment on the speaker comparison?
l0st.prophet said:
If you are only into the latest and greatest hardware, and have to have dual core CPU's, this is not for you!
If you are actually interested in this phone, hopefully this will be of some help [/SI
Hi to all, could you tell me about the flash player in this phone? has it the one that desire hd has?(10.1) or the lite edition?
thank u
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HD2_MANIAC said:
l0st.prophet said:
If you are only into the latest and greatest hardware, and have to have dual core CPU's, this is not for you!
If you are actually interested in this phone, hopefully this will be of some help [/SI
Hi to all, could you tell me about the flash player in this phone? has it the one that desire hd has?(10.1) or the lite edition?
thank u
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It has full Flash 10.1 (soon to be 10.2)
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Any info on how it handles video codecs? I assume out of the box it will not play avi / divx?
Presume such apps as Vplayer / QQPlayer and Rockplayer will let you play a full sized avi with no fuss though and remain in sync throughout?
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Any info on how it handles video codecs? I assume out of the box it will not play avi / divx?
Presume such apps as Vplayer / QQPlayer and Rockplayer will let you play a full sized avi with no fuss though and remain in sync throughout?
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I found that it does actually play some avi files without the likes of rockplayer; however when using rockplayer it seems to be flawless, though sound is adequate rather than amazing via loud speaker, ear phones is perfectly acceptable.
Great review!
Cheers!
I am currently deciding between this and the DHD... I prefably like the DHD for it's price. Much cheaper than the Incredible. The battery performance on the incredible actually sounds bloody amazing according to your review! The DHD 1230Mah battery is it's weakness point. I am in a dilema on which to get...
Like you said though, it isnt a MAJOR upgrade. So should i get the DHD for a worse battery but for a cheaper £389 compared to £499?
Cheers!
remember it's £459 if buying from CPW - you can buy the cheaper PAYG deal as they are all sim free anyway!
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remember it's £459 if buying from CPW - you can buy the cheaper PAYG deal as they are all sim free anyway!
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thanks! any chance for a link?
Sure ...
Here ya go
Thanks for posting this review and the follow-up. I'm looking at getting this phone instead of the DHD because of the poor battery life and the uni-body design of the DHD.
Like in topic. The worse thing in S2 for me is it's terrible video performance. I got fujitsu chip, and there is some solution to improve framerate (focus issue) but the cost is lack of light diode, which I cannot loose. So here come's my question - is it worth moving into Note? I now there are some advantages /dis, I'm well aware of all of this. But it's hard to find any complaints for both S2 and Note camera - what doesn't acctually mean that there is nothing to complain about. Maybe just that some people doesn't find that so crucial for their phone. I do, so please help me If I see advertise saying 1080p 30fps = thats what I assume to have. Samsung Wave made better quality movies than my current S2. Maybe it's caused by this particular model, it's quite possible I think, but I just want to know if it's worth moving further into galaxy family, or maybe to switch to another company...
thx in advance.
Yes same issues, its all about the luck of the draw on which camera module you get. There was a thread about that here.
I decided to go on the black side of power, and get one Note. How can I see if seller offers Note that is damaged due to it's camera chip? Is there simple instruction I could ask the seller to follow to give me information I need? Please help me not to waste 430euro
Have 4 Notes and they all shoot great pics/movies. Earl seems to think every Note has a defect.
any way to check the hardware chip + firmware on note? I'm in the middle of bargain talk with seller
any1? i'm really in need here ;(
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Have 4 Notes and they all shoot great pics/movies. Earl seems to think every Note has a defect.
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Yeah, keep asking him why he's still around spreading negativity, since he reputedly sold his Note, but no reply. Guess he likes trolling...
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do you mean by that, that Note is free of those problems that some of S2 had/has?
well my note takes nice pics and videos, but the best recording mode for samsung galaxy note ( and i think for s2 either) is 720p, ive read in a review that in 1080p the light is different, more bright or something like that and the picture is "stretching" when you move your phone more in 1080p than in 720p( and thats true), i think that video is pretty smooth, but camera in s2 and note is almost the same, for phone i think its enough
Hey guys!
I'm currently using a xperia zl. I will get a new phone soon, and I really love the z3 compact.
There's only one thing that bothers me: the display resolution
Is it possible for a normal human being like me to see any difference between my current full hd reaolution and the z3c's hd?
I'm reading a lot on my phone, what about tiny little fonts?
I am also connecting my phone to my tv via mhl. Does the resolution of the phone's display affect the pictire on the tv?
Or am I just a victim of the full (or even quad) hd advertising campaign...?
Thanks for your opinion!
sturmtruppler said:
Hey guys!
I'm currently using a xperia zl. I will get a new phone soon, and I really love the z3 compact.
There's only one thing that bothers me: the display resolution
Is it possible for a normal human being like me to see any difference between my current full hd reaolution and the z3c's hd?
I'm reading a lot on my phone, what about tiny little fonts?
I am also connecting my phone to my tv via mhl. Does the resolution of the phone's display affect the pictire on the tv?
Or am I just a victim of the full (or even quad) hd advertising campaign...?
Thanks for your opinion!
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No
Maybe...?
Yes
Yes you're being brainwashed by ads. Companies tend to go for higher and higher resolutions acting as if that really makes a phone better, but it doesn't. Why would such a small device need such a high resolution? It's not like we'll see the difference between 720p and 4k.
On a big screen (monitor) yes! On a phone, HELL NO... It will only deplete your battery faster.
About your TV resolution... well I think it depends how old your TV is. If my mind serves me right, TV's didn't had that great resolutions.
sturmtruppler said:
Hey guys!
I'm currently using a xperia zl. I will get a new phone soon, and I really love the z3 compact.
There's only one thing that bothers me: the display resolution
Is it possible for a normal human being like me to see any difference between my current full hd reaolution and the z3c's hd?
I'm reading a lot on my phone, what about tiny little fonts?
I am also connecting my phone to my tv via mhl. Does the resolution of the phone's display affect the pictire on the tv?
Or am I just a victim of the full (or even quad) hd advertising campaign...?
Thanks for your opinion!
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No, you will notice no difference.
Also some big TV´s had in the past "only" 720p....
720p is full enough and will save the battery comparing to FullHD
On a screen of this size I think even 720p is more than sufficient. Even on a 32" TV your naked eyes will not be able to differentiate 720p from 1080p from a certain distance. The advantage in terms of battery saving is huge and I really am happy that this phone came with only 720p.
sturmtruppler said:
Hey guys!
I'm currently using a xperia zl. I will get a new phone soon, and I really love the z3 compact.
There's only one thing that bothers me: the display resolution
Is it possible for a normal human being like me to see any difference between my current full hd reaolution and the z3c's hd?
I'm reading a lot on my phone, what about tiny little fonts?
I am also connecting my phone to my tv via mhl. Does the resolution of the phone's display affect the pictire on the tv?
Or am I just a victim of the full (or even quad) hd advertising campaign...?
Thanks for your opinion!
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Like everyone else said, 720p is just perfect for a phone of this size. 1080p or higher would has been an "overkill" at the expense of battery life.
As for the TV output it depends on the resolution/quality of the original content. If you are just generally mirroring your phone screen it will have a resolution of 720p on the TV (which itself is a very decent quality, most content on TV is 720p anyways). But playing back a high quality 1080p or 4K (the Sony Z3 Compact supports 4K video recording) video from phone, it will be displayed as Full HD on the TV.
http://wolfcrow.com/blog/notes-by-dr-optoglass-the-resolution-of-the-human-eye/
The most important thing when talking about ppi and which no one of the marketing departments mentions of course, is the viewing distance.
This article is very clear, for a normal human eye 720p at a viewing distance of 30 cm which is quite normal for a phone is sufficient. So, 1080p is already for most of us overkill and everything above pure male cow excrement.
No, No, & No lol. I enjoy that some companies are trying to get rid of this ridiculous trend (SONY, Motorola, etc.) I'm sure there are more trying to. We could probably have had 3-4 days battery by now if people weren't obsessed with buying into expensive power hungry components.
Guess ads are to blame too, thanks Samsung. Cough *Galaxy Notes -__- nothing wrong with a Note but the screen res is overkill to the max. Anyway rant done, enjoy your amazing battery life you buy it because you didn't get sucked into buying an unnecessary big display.
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Thank you all for your opinions and links! :thumbup:
You could probably tell side-by-side. You won't care.
Side by side with my one m7 full hd and i can t tell the difference.
Hi
In my opinion it's all about compromise and priorities. Personally I have just moved from an LG G3 (Quad HD display) to the Z3 Compact.
Side by side the LG G3 really looks the business - in fact it is startling. But, the Z3C has a good screen, is much more pocketable, has brilliant battery life (I used to carry a spare with the LG just in case though never actually needed it - came close though), and outdoors in bright sunlight the Sony is much better.
So for me the compromises favoured the Sony.
As ever it's just my opinion but I hope it helps
As compared to the Xperia SP. Please don't compare the Xperia Z with the other devices please. Tell me what's bad and good. I am interested in hearing the community thoughts here. Also, how much of a difference are the Stock ROMs and Custom ROMs? And do you think that there should be more development for the Xperia Z.
Thanks
Furrydaus said:
As compared to the Xperia SP. Please don't compare the Xperia Z with the other devices please. Tell me what's bad and good. I am interested in hearing the community thoughts here. Also, how much of a difference are the Stock ROMs and Custom ROMs? And do you think that there should be more development for the Xperia Z.
Thanks
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Pros:
-big 1080p display(5 inches)
-High-resolution display (1080 x 1920 pixels)
-Extremely high pixel density screen, over 430ppi
-Quad core processor
-Lots of RAM (2048 MB RAM)
-Fast mobile data support (4G)
-Waterproof
Cons:
-Fingerprint magnet
-Off-angle display is poor
Best phone i ever had the performance is amazing it may lag some times but it never fails to impress. The software updates take a while to reach it but i guess this is a problem for all xperia devices. As for the XperiaUI for me is the best minimalistic design ever its close to stock android but without those ugly icons.
But if you have the money i would suggest you buy a xperia z2 or z3
Hope it helps you
Furrydaus said:
As compared to the Xperia SP. Please don't compare the Xperia Z with the other devices please. Tell me what's bad and good. I am interested in hearing the community thoughts here. Also, how much of a difference are the Stock ROMs and Custom ROMs? And do you think that there should be more development for the Xperia Z.
Thanks
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The Z is starting to get a little old though so if you have the money you might want to go for the Z1 or higher as there is a chance of it still getting android M as well!
I had an Xperia sp before as well and I'm happy with my Z1 the only problem is that I bricked it, and sony replaced the motherboard with a faulty one so I will have to send it back :/
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I having my Xperia z for about 2 years now
I don't recommend buying Xperia Z
Cons/Problems I have with my Z:
1- The sim card slot is annoying. Fortunately I don't have to change my sim card for a long time until I travel to another country or decide to change carrier
2- Yes Xperia Z has big ram, good processor and good performance but the problem is that it produces much heat. Doing a multitasks in background like playing a game, then switch to watch a video then surf the Web produce a fairly heat that burns your hand and force you sometimes to decide putting it into the refrigerator
3- Destroys your SD card: When I copy any file to external SD card, It becomes corrupted suddenly or disappeares. Then after a short period the SD card will be unusable. And the problem proceeds when you put the SD card in another device or to computer with card reader, It will also make corrupted files.
(Tested with 3 SD cards 2gb, 32gb and 64gb sandisk. All are destroyed :'(
Even if you format it will still be unusable (I got this problem with the kitkat update. I was fine at jealy bean)
4- Now with the lollipop update new problem is added to the list and nothing fixed: My Z is now randomly shutting down during the usage. The only time it doesn't when it's connected to the charger.
I confirm that it's not a battery problem because my battery is good and I can turn the Z on again after the shutdown without charging. I was fine before lollipop
5- It is charging slowly. Takes about three hours to full charge from zero. When used heavily while charging, It will discharge faster than it's charging
Now I am planning to install a custom rom to see if I can avoid these annoying problems
Those are more than enough reasons that will make my next phone htc probably or Samsung which I disliked at first but now I seem to like them much much more
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Hashim97 said:
I having my Xperia z for about 2 years now
I don't recommend buying Xperia Z
Cons/Problems I have with my Z:
1- The sim card slot is annoying. Fortunately I don't have to change my sim card for a long time until I travel to another country or decide to change carrier
2- Yes Xperia Z has big ram, good processor and good performance but the problem is that it produces much heat. Doing a multitasks in background like playing a game, then switch to watch a video then surf the Web produce a fairly heat that burns your hand and force you sometimes to decide putting it into the refrigerator
3- Destroys your SD card: When I copy any file to external SD card, It becomes corrupted suddenly or disappeares. Then after a short period the SD card will be unusable. And the problem proceeds when you put the SD card in another device or to computer with card reader, It will also make corrupted files.
(Tested with 3 SD cards 2gb, 32gb and 64gb sandisk. All are destroyed :'(
Even if you format it will still be unusable (I got this problem with the kitkat update. I was fine at jealy bean)
4- Now with the lollipop update new problem is added to the list and nothing fixed: My Z is now randomly shutting down during the usage. The only time it doesn't when it's connected to the charger.
I confirm that it's not a battery problem because my battery is good and I can turn the Z on again after the shutdown without charging. I was fine before lollipop
5- It is charging slowly. Takes about three hours to full charge from zero. When used heavily while charging, It will discharge faster than it's charging
Now I am planning to install a custom rom to see if I can avoid these annoying problems
Those are more than enough reasons that will make my next phone htc probably or Samsung which I disliked at first but now I seem to like them much much more
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all of your problems will go away if you do a factory reset which is highly recommended after such a big update like android 5
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all of your problems will go away if you do a factory reset which is highly recommended after such a big update like android 5
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Or he just updated via zip method instead of upgrade via ftf.
BTW @Furrydaus
I think the Z is still worth it, its not so expensive anymore but still performs very well (stock and custom)
My sister has an SP and I'm recommending her a Z also.
BTW 2: # offtopic: next week I'm flashing different rom / kernel on her SP, and since she doesn't have the time to let me test rom by rom,, could you recommend a fast and stable rom? Because now she suffers poor ram management and reboots.
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all of your problems will go away if you do a factory reset which is highly recommended after such a big update like android 5
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If it would be so simple to fix everything by reset, everyone would do this and live happy after that :]
But about that list:
2. Yes its heat a lot... but I found out that almost EVERY new phone heat a lot, mostly those with glass.metal back... companies dont understand that today phones dont actually need such power, only better optimized apps, but instead of that they put there huge CPU's like XZ and never phones. And XZ normal temp are 60-70, I actually took pirometr from work and when playing, back panel had almost 60*C its actually hard to hold it :]
And no reset nor clean system install can fix that.
4. Actually this is only problem that could be fixed with clean installation, because its clearly problem of system(reboots)
5. that is so true. For past couple of weeks Im playing with Virtual Reality Goggles, and most of apps for that just massacre CPU and battery, and even when Im charging it, after one movie(90min) Battery is down from 70 to 20% WHEN CHARING! xD And Im using docking pins for charging because I found that they give more juice than charging from microUSB.
And in Lollipop I actually need to charge it two times per day, using only music player and browser...
And about topic... it is worth?
NO
I bought it knowing about two things that battery suck, and screen suck... its turn out that screen is awesome, but camera is tragic, especially after LP update, that now camera take worst pics quality than xperia Neo V that I lately fix to use as a Android TV(work like charm with BT mouse)
Xperia Z is amazing device but compared what you can get now for that money its plain stupidity to buy it.
Sofware on it is "shoot and miss", especially when you update to LP.
Battery is tragic no matter of OS version
Camera just suck
Cover flaps are HUGE F PAIN IN THE ARSE, when you use headphones a lot you can order new ones, or even bunch of covers, because they break up easily.
Because of heat and weird design back cover can pop up a bit, so forget about waterproof.
Without sound mods its really quiet device, especially after LP
Its HUGE fingerprint magnet....
I dont care about that, but if someone want to buy new phone, forget about xz....
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If it would be so simple to fix everything by reset, everyone would do this and live happy after that :]
But about that list:
2. Yes its heat a lot... but I found out that almost EVERY new phone heat a lot, mostly those with glass.metal back... companies dont understand that today phones dont actually need such power, only better optimized apps, but instead of that they put there huge CPU's like XZ and never phones. And XZ normal temp are 60-70, I actually took pirometr from work and when playing, back panel had almost 60*C its actually hard to hold it :]
And no reset nor clean system install can fix that.
4. Actually this is only problem that could be fixed with clean installation, because its clearly problem of system(reboots)
5. that is so true. For past couple of weeks Im playing with Virtual Reality Goggles, and most of apps for that just massacre CPU and battery, and even when Im charging it, after one movie(90min) Battery is down from 70 to 20% WHEN CHARING! xD And Im using docking pins for charging because I found that they give more juice than charging from microUSB.
And in Lollipop I actually need to charge it two times per day, using only music player and browser...
And about topic... it is worth?
NO
I bought it knowing about two things that battery suck, and screen suck... its turn out that screen is awesome, but camera is tragic, especially after LP update, that now camera take worst pics quality than xperia Neo V that I lately fix to use as a Android TV(work like charm with BT mouse)
Xperia Z is amazing device but compared what you can get now for that money its plain stupidity to buy it.
Sofware on it is "shoot and miss", especially when you update to LP.
Battery is tragic no matter of OS version
Camera just suck
Cover flaps are HUGE F PAIN IN THE ARSE, when you use headphones a lot you can order new ones, or even bunch of covers, because they break up easily.
Because of heat and weird design back cover can pop up a bit, so forget about waterproof.
Without sound mods its really quiet device, especially after LP
Its HUGE fingerprint magnet....
I dont care about that, but if someone want to buy new phone, forget about xz....
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The Z1 fixes most of the issues so I recommend Z1 or up
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I having my Xperia z for about 2 years now
I don't recommend buying Xperia Z
Cons/Problems I have with my Z:
1- The sim card slot is annoying. Fortunately I don't have to change my sim card for a long time until I travel to another country or decide to change carrier
2- Yes Xperia Z has big ram, good processor and good performance but the problem is that it produces much heat. Doing a multitasks in background like playing a game, then switch to watch a video then surf the Web produce a fairly heat that burns your hand and force you sometimes to decide putting it into the refrigerator
3- Destroys your SD card: When I copy any file to external SD card, It becomes corrupted suddenly or disappeares. Then after a short period the SD card will be unusable. And the problem proceeds when you put the SD card in another device or to computer with card reader, It will also make corrupted files.
(Tested with 3 SD cards 2gb, 32gb and 64gb sandisk. All are destroyed :'(
Even if you format it will still be unusable (I got this problem with the kitkat update. I was fine at jealy bean)
4- Now with the lollipop update new problem is added to the list and nothing fixed: My Z is now randomly shutting down during the usage. The only time it doesn't when it's connected to the charger.
I confirm that it's not a battery problem because my battery is good and I can turn the Z on again after the shutdown without charging. I was fine before lollipop
5- It is charging slowly. Takes about three hours to full charge from zero. When used heavily while charging, It will discharge faster than it's charging
Now I am planning to install a custom rom to see if I can avoid these annoying problems
Those are more than enough reasons that will make my next phone htc probably or Samsung which I disliked at first but now I seem to like them much much more
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Dude, are you sure that you're being logical?
1) This is the only legit fault you have named. You can do nothing about this.
2) Playing a game, watching a video and surfing the web simultaneously? Are you serious? This is the biggest pressure you can put on a phone, how do you expect it not to heat up? I agree that it generally heats up pretty quickly, but newer, stronger phones usually act like that.
3) Do you really think this is a reason to convince people not to buy the XZ? Do you not think if such a flaw existed in a device, the company would stop its production line until fixed? That is definitely not a whole issue, but one with your device. You have either a damaged card slot or a faulty SD card.
4) Again, do not generalize such issues with phones ever. Random shut downs are not normal at all. They are not expected to be spontaneously present at all units of the same model. The problem is surely at your side, whether software or hardware.
5) Slow charging is apparently a problem raised after the LP update. However, I kinsa feel like it is somewhat better now for me with custom ROMs. But anyway, anticipate the official 5.1 update.
And dear OP, please compare devices of the same level of specifications. The XZ is old, but the SP is even older. It uses a dual core processor and 1GB of RAM, while the XZ is equipped with the double of each. The display also is in fHD resolution with like 441 pixels per inch, and this is quite great. Thoroughly, the XZ is a good device, in my opinion, with its thermal control system disabled in order to prevent poor performance when heating up. Battery life is also not so good. Not bad either, though. Pretty natural with newer phones. Sound volume is also so damn low.
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Dude, are you sure that you're being logical?
1) This is the only legit fault you have named. You can do nothing about this.
2) Playing a game, watching a video and surfing the web simultaneously? Are you serious? This is the biggest pressure you can put on a phone, how do you expect it not to heat up? I agree that it generally heats up pretty quickly, but newer, stronger phones usually act like that.
3) Do you really think this is a reason to convince people not to buy the XZ? Do you not think if such a flaw existed in a device, the company would stop its production line until fixed? That is definitely not a whole issue, but one with your device. You have either a damaged card slot or a faulty SD card.
4) Again, do not generalize such issues with phones ever. Random shut downs are not normal at all. They are not expected to be spontaneously present at all units of the same model. The problem is surely at your side, whether software or hardware.
5) Slow charging is apparently a problem raised after the LP update. However, I kinsa feel like it is somewhat better now for me with custom ROMs. But anyway, anticipate the official 5.1 update.
And dear OP, please compare devices of the same level of specifications. The XZ is old, but the SP is even older. It uses a dual core processor and 1GB of RAM, while the XZ is equipped with the double of each. The display also is in fHD resolution with like 441 pixels per inch, and this is quite great. Thoroughly, the XZ is a good device, in my opinion, with its thermal control system disabled in order to prevent poor performance when heating up. Battery life is also not so good. Not bad either, though. Pretty natural with newer phones. Sound volume is also so damn low.
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I had both devices. XZ and SP. Both of them are using the Snapdragon S4 Pro Processor, the XZ the Quad-Core Variant with 1,5 Ghz and the SP the Dual-Core Variant with 1,7 Ghz.
I can't recommend any of these devices, they are old and the battery is too small for todays use. I'm using the Z for almost two years now. Don't buy it, its too old for todays usage.
So I am planning on getting a 128 GB OnePlus 3T, but I have some questions.
How is a phone without a SD Card? All devices I have had so far have SD Card slots, now I store my images on there but on the OnePlus, there is no SD Card slot, so I will have to store my images on the phone, which makes me scared.
What if the phone would just die on me and I would have to reflash OxygenOS then the Data section containing my images would also be wiped? I backup my images using Google Photos but I prefer to also have the original image file, should I just make a backup on the images like every week?
And last question, I have heard that the included warranty is really bad and that it can be a little pricey when sending it to Germany for repairs, is that true?
I was in the same boat as you before I got my Oneplus 3T. All my previous phones had SD cards. I came from a 16GB S5 with a 32GB memory card running CM13. For that reason I opted to get the 128GB 3T. I have yet to try installing any custom Roms on my device but I love having all the extra storage space at my disposal.
I've used phones without an SD card slot for a while now. I honestly haven't missed it. Using google photos has been great, and then if you have to wipe the data partition of your device ever, if you use TWRP to do it, it doesn't wipe your photos or videos.
As for the warranty, I have no idea for your location, but I'm in the US and had to my warranty on my OnePlus 2. Things seemed to go about as smooth as most other companies. A couple of minor frustrations, but overall went pretty smoothly.
I purchased and received a 128GB OnePlus 3T (I'm writing this response on it actually!) and am absolutely loving it so far! I would say that this is one of my favorite devices I've ever owned, next to my OnePlus One!
How's the display in terms of quality vs QHD? And how's sound from the device?
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So I am planning on getting a 128 GB OnePlus 3T, but I have some questions.
How is a phone without a SD Card? All devices I have had so far have SD Card slots, now I store my images on there but on the OnePlus, there is no SD Card slot, so I will have to store my images on the phone, which makes me scared.
What if the phone would just die on me and I would have to reflash OxygenOS then the Data section containing my images would also be wiped? I backup my images using Google Photos but I prefer to also have the original image file, should I just make a backup on the images like every week?
And last question, I have heard that the included warranty is really bad and that it can be a little pricey when sending it to Germany for repairs, is that true?
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I moved all my files from my old phone that was backed up to my PC a day before I got this and used send anywhere to send all my music and important photos etc to my new op3T I also purchased a USB C to USB A 64 GB just to make backups for that "just in case" but Google photos and drive are great for primary backups.
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How's the display in terms of quality vs QHD? And how's sound from the device?
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On a 5.5 device or below 1080p is sufficient for normal usage of modern mobile. Maybe not VR but I'm not interested in that yet, first generation of a new bit a of tech is a waste of money to me. But coming from a Z3+ and looking at my girlfriend's Note 4 I say the display is great, a lot better than my Sony in terms of contrast but equal in colour. I think Sony make some amazing IPS displays, it I has a more balanced colour than the Samsung even without turning on sRGB. Where sound goes being 100% stock headphones are louder than my old phone and the note. The quality of the audio is actually better than it too also a lot better than the note, have to use my Fiio to get "comfortable" listening experience on my Sony. There isn't any advanced audio settings like clear audio, ds xx etc but still clear , crisp and loud enough on 32 Ohm headphones. And the bottom firing speaker took me by surprise, it gets loud for notifications and ringtones. It has got some depth if watching some YouTube at higher volumes it get very high in treble depending on what's going on. Rounded up great screen for normal non VR use, great audio from both 3.5 and speaker (surprised myself) will also be trying USB audio soon in the future. For the price it is a steal tbh it is my first OP came from iPhone 4, Xperia Z3 and Z3+ while also using Samsung s4, note 4 and LG g5 for some periods. And this is my top most enjoyable experience's yet of any phone I have had the pleasure of using.
I will add this in as my opinion but this device slides into that "Nexus" void.
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On a 5.5 device or below 1080p is sufficient for normal usage of modern mobile. Maybe not VR but I'm not interested in that yet, first generation of a new bit a of tech is a waste of money to me. But coming from a Z3+ and looking at my girlfriend's Note 4 I say the display is great, a lot better than my Sony in terms of contrast but equal in colour. I think Sony make some amazing IPS displays, it I has a more balanced colour than the Samsung even without turning on sRGB. Where sound goes being 100% stock headphones are louder than my old phone and the note. The quality of the audio is actually better than it too also a lot better than the note, have to use my Fiio to get "comfortable" listening experience on my Sony. There isn't any advanced audio settings like clear audio, ds xx etc but still clear , crisp and loud enough on 32 Ohm headphones. And the bottom firing speaker took me by surprise, it gets loud for notifications and ringtones. It has got some depth if watching some YouTube at higher volumes it get very high in treble depending on what's going on. Rounded up great screen for normal non VR use, great audio from both 3.5 and speaker (surprised myself) will also be trying USB audio soon in the future. For the price it is a steal tbh it is my first OP came from iPhone 4, Xperia Z3 and Z3+ while also using Samsung s4, note 4 and LG g5 for some periods. And this is my top most enjoyable experience's yet of any phone I have had the pleasure of using.
I will add this in as my opinion but this device slides into that "Nexus" void.
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Thank you soo much for your help. You answered my question very professional
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I moved all my files from my old phone that was backed up to my PC a day before I got this and used send anywhere to send all my music and important photos etc to my new op3T I also purchased a USB C to USB A 64 GB just to make backups for that "just in case" but Google photos and drive are great for primary backups.
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Question, is the 3T worth it according to you and should I get 128 GB or 64 GB?
Question, is the 3T worth it according to you and should I get 128 GB or 64 GB?
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It's personal choice but I went for 128GB as I have a lot of Flac music files and take a lot of pictures and videos, now I can mess with RAW too. 128 GB just gives you that headroom for the future and never worrying about storage space.
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It's personal choice but I went for 128GB as I have a lot of Flac music files and take a lot of pictures and videos, now I can mess with RAW too. 128 GB just gives you that headroom for the future and never worrying about storage space.
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What about the battery life? On my current phone I get around 1 - 2 hours SOT while just watching YouTube, Checking if my friends have sent me something on Snapchat... And using XDA.
What about the battery life? On my current phone I get around 1 - 2 hours SOT while just watching YouTube, Checking if my friends have sent me something on Snapchat... And using XDA.
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This was the other day non stop use. Just now sitting at 70% 2h 43m SOT so average around 10% an hour when using it as a phone, YouTube,music streaming Tidal. Huge improvement over my Z3+ that I had to tailer use for as it got 3-4h SOT but heat was mental and didn't game much on it because of that and this 3T I can use in whatever way I want.
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This was the other day non stop use. Just now sitting at 70% 2h 43m SOT so average around 10% an hour when using it as a phone, YouTube,music streaming Tidal. Huge improvement over my Z3+ that I had to tailer use for as it got 3-4h SOT but heat was mental and didn't game much on it because of that and this 3T I can use in whatever way I want.
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So it costs 521$ for me to get the 128 GB version, in your opinion is it worth it? And also what about the size (Coming from a S4 Mini with 4.3" screen)
If you have the money and are happy I would say go for it. My Z3+ was 5.15 but is the same surface are as the 3T so it wasn't as big as I thought you just get more screen than head and chin. It's thin and feels quality my first metal phone. Feels 10x better than the lg g5 as it has a plastic primer coat and easy to get about the screen. It is slippery though so I would advise a quality case, my go to make is spigen. And like I said quality it great I would recommend watching the jerryrig video on YouTube. It's actual sapphire on the camera
I had a 32gb note 5 that never even got half full in over 12 months. Obviously I saved a little cash and went with the 64. Mainly because when I selected 128 at checkout it looked like a longer wait. In reality I have no need for the extra 55GB of storage.
I have yet to kill the battery on my device in a day. I'm extremely expressed with the battery life so far.
One question
How much storage do you get in 128 GB version?
WoodyTiger01 said:
One question
How much storage do you get in 128 GB version?
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113.2GB's
undergrad said:
113.2GB's
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Thanks :good: