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push TAN - app detecting root

The Problem:
The App detects the device is rooted and thus redirects to a browser with a message saying it can not be run on a rooted device etc.
What I've got so far:
-Magisk hide does nothing
-https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/santander-app-custom-rom-root-device-t3794753/post77321403 A could be hint to a solution
It works once the Magisk app is deleted
My Question:
How could I have Magisk installed and still have the push TAN app work?
APP:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.starfinanz.mobile.android.pushtan&hl=de

Have you renamed magisk apk? There's an option in settings.
Sent from my M2002J9G using Tapatalk

renaming does nothing,here in germany its easy to use push tan apps,in my case and i am by the Sparkasse Leverkusen just go to your Sparkasse and say ur phone is not rooted,just old,after some minutes you can use spush tan app with every root method or magisk!!!!Cheers!!!

TheOne9373 said:
The Problem:
The App detects the device is rooted and thus redirects to a browser with a message saying it can not be run on a rooted device etc.
What I've got so far:
-Magisk hide does nothing
-https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/santander-app-custom-rom-root-device-t3794753/post77321403 A could be hint to a solution
It works once the Magisk app is deleted
My Question:
How could I have Magisk installed and still have the push TAN app work?
APP:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.starfinanz.mobile.android.pushtan&hl=de
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I have seen this post today and remebered your problem, check this out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/guide-how-to-hide-root-bank-applications-t4172127
Enviado de meu POCOPHONE F1 usando o Tapatalk

[email protected] said:
I have seen this post today and remebered your problem, check this out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/guide-how-to-hide-root-bank-applications-t4172127
Enviado de meu POCOPHONE F1 usando o Tapatalk
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It does not work on this application, the problem is solved by the latest magisk manager 8.0.0 and repackaging it to a different name, hiding S-pushTAN and it works :highfive:

Spartacus500 said:
It does not work on this application, the problem is solved by the latest magisk manager 8.0.0 and repackaging it to a different name, hiding S-pushTAN and it works :highfive:
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Confirmed with DKB PushTAN App

I tried it like this, but it's still not working. What magisk version are you on?

Dark_Lion64 said:
I tried it like this, but it's still not working. What magisk version are you on?
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Today New version magisk manager update

pushTAN App by Sparkasse is not working with LOS 18.1 @OP6 with latest Magisk 23. Any solutions?

Hi guys
After a while of test try test try So on. I find a solution that work for the one of my devices that I use for. Its a huawei p10 lite. So first it had openkirin lineagos 16 build 6 but this Firmware have to many little Bugs like Bluetooth no connection with Mi Band Smartwatch but with soundbar no problem, then camera Bug...often it doesn't safe the createt pics and vids. Thats very argh when snapshots not safe and not Anke to reproduce, and some other. Some time goes by and now I have lineagos 18.1 for p8 lite 2017 codename prague. The p10 lite warsaw WAS-LX1A working well with it. I just had to downgrade the Stock ROM from 8.0.0C432B398 to B378 for headshot the build number error. The settings in magisk should be clear for every one...i think
So first I reboot TWRP and clear Cache and Dalvik. Reboot to System and adjust magisk (hide and repack) the repack needs a little while so just keep cool and wait. Then install the pushtan App Version 1.50. ask Google for apk. Or pm me and I send you This is the last that working for me. My different magisk version I use was 19.3 phh, 20,4 phh and one for Android 11. that is moddet for huawei p10 lite. Take a look in xda forum and you will find it. If the normal magisk for A11 running on your device then use it. On huawei we need the mod one.
So now the apk was installed you first open magisk and choose pushtan in hide Option. Then reboot to TWRP and delete Cache and Dalvik again. After that you can reboot to System...fingerscross could not be wrong in this moment hihi...now the great moment is coming. Start the app and your Facial expression would show if it work or not for me it does.
Hmmm Warum schreibe ik eigentlich english bei ner Sparkassen App xD
So good luck for you
solong
speedson

Pundy said:
pushTAN App by Sparkasse is not working with LOS 18.1 @OP6 with latest Magisk 23. Any solutions?
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Use Magisk Canary, use Hide Magisk for "S-pushTAN", Repack Magisk with another name like "Manager" f.e. , get the App "Airfrozen" and freeze Magisk Manager with it.
After this steps you can use "S-pushTAN" without any problems.
If its still not working after that, make sure everything named "Magisk" like ZIPs or Folders are deleted.

bLack_Q said:
Use Magisk Canary, use Hide Magisk for "S-pushTAN", Repack Magisk with another name like "Manager" f.e. , get the App "Airfrozen" and freeze Magisk Manager with it.
After this steps you can use "S-pushTAN" without any problems.
If its still not working after that, make sure everything named "Magisk" like ZIPs or Folders are deleted.
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Thank you very much! Now it works.
Renaming the App and Airfrozen is the key.

Pundy said:
Thank you very much! Now it works.
Renaming the App and Airfrozen is the key.
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Nice, glad I could help. If you dont use "S-pushTAN" anymore you can simply unfreeze Magisk.

bLack_Q said:
Nice, glad I could help. If you dont use "S-pushTAN" anymore you can simply unfreeze Magisk.
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Not working with comdirect phototan.
Any suggestions?

Laptapper said:
Not working with comdirect phototan.
Any suggestions?
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Unfortunately I have never used that app. But if I come up with something I will let you know.

Magisk v22.0 with Commerzbank Banking and photoTan App

Hey there,
I hope you're doing well.
I recently updated from One Ui 3.0 to One Ui 3.1 (Android 11) (Note10+ N975F Exynos). But this time I had to install clean because dirty flash didn't worked this time.
Set up everything as before but with the problem that my Banking App and photoTan detects root (FC). Same Version as before, same settings. Magisk hide, tried freezing some root apps and Magisk Canary with latest app too. Still the App detects root. I also tried to delete everything on my storage with magisk in the name.
And also as always gave Magisk another name (hide app itself)..
(Font Changer module doesn't work either with v22.0 Magisk)
I already spent several hours fixing it.. I'm really frustrated right now.
I would really appreciate any tipp..
Update was definitely not worth it.
Can someone please test the Commerzbank App and photoTan if it force closes with Magisk Hide on v22.0?
Edit: I tried Mandiri App just for Fun because for many people the app doesn't work with root, just tried once without magisk hide and didn't work. With hide it worked, just my banking apps are smarter I assume.
Greets
TheFerhatKing

TheFerhatKing said:
Hey there,
I hope you're doing well.
I recently updated from One Ui 3.0 to One Ui 3.1 (Android 11) (Note10+ N975F Exynos). But this time I had to install clean because dirty flash didn't worked this time.
Set up everything as before but with the problem that my Banking App and photoTan detects root (FC). Same Version as before, same settings. Magisk hide, tried freezing some root apps and Magisk Canary with latest app too. Still the App detects root. I also tried to delete everything on my storage with magisk in the name.
And also as always gave Magisk another name (hide app itself)..
(Font Changer module doesn't work either with v22.0 Magisk)
I already spent several hours fixing it.. I'm really frustrated right now.
I would really appreciate any tipp..
Update was definitely not worth it.
Can someone please test the Commerzbank App and photoTan if it force closes with Magisk Hide on v22.0?
Edit: I tried Mandiri App just for Fun because for many people the app doesn't work with root, just tried once without magisk hide and didn't work. With hide it worked, just my banking apps are smarter I assume.
Greets
TheFerhatKing
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Maybe there was an update of the banking app with better detection of hidden rooting
BTW ... I am on stock (unrooted) OneUI 3.1 and Commerzbank / photoTAN app working fine.

It_ler said:
Maybe there was an update of the banking app with better detection of hidden rooting
BTW ... I am on stock (unrooted) OneUI 3.1 and Commerzbank / photoTAN app working fine.
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That doesn't make sense for me.. because one day before with One Ui 3.0 it worked perfectly with the same (!) version of both apps.

Would be anyone so nice to give it a shot on his Magisk rooted phone?
It's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.commerzbank.photoTAN
and
Commerzbank Banking - Apps on Google Play
Banking is quick and easy with the Commerzbank Banking app
play.google.com

TheFerhatKing said:
Would be anyone so nice to give it a shot on his Magisk rooted phone?
It's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.commerzbank.photoTAN
and
Commerzbank Banking - Apps on Google Play
Banking is quick and easy with the Commerzbank Banking app
play.google.com
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Well, I'm not a customer so I can't get very far, but no problem opening the app up to the point where you're supposed to scan the activation letter. I'm assuming root is detected after that, since I hadn't even added the app to the Hide list...

Didgeridoohan said:
Well, I'm not a customer so I can't get very far, but no problem opening the app up to the point where you're supposed to scan the activation letter. I'm assuming root is detected after that, since I hadn't even added the app to the Hide list...
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The photoTan App doesn't even let me scan something, it closes directly. Even if it's hidden. I'm assuming its ROM related and I think what's causing it is the safetynet fix thats integrated.
Thank you very much for testing!

@TheFerhatKing I am able to run the Commerzbank-Banking app in an older version, with magisk v23 on a rooted, unlocked Xiaomi mi 9t aka davinci. I am using the MicroG LOS rom.
12.9.4 is working nice, later versions show me that I used root and I had the retriction that I was not able to use fingerprint for unlock. You can get the older apk here: https://apkcombo.com/de-de/commerzbank-banking-the-app-at-your-side/de.commerzbanking.mobil/download/phone-12.9.4 (210226022)-apk
And you need this module too:
Releases · kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
github.com
Plus hide the root from magisk settings.

I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
@TheFerhatKing I am able to run the Commerzbank-Banking app in an older version, with magisk v23 on a rooted, unlocked Xiaomi mi 9t aka davinci. I am using the MicroG LOS rom.
12.9.4 is working nice, later versions show me that I used root and I had the retriction that I was not able to use fingerprint for unlock. You can get the older apk here: https://apkcombo.com/de-de/commerzbank-banking-the-app-at-your-side/de.commerzbanking.mobil/download/phone-12.9.4 (210226022)-apk
And you need this module too:
Releases · kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
github.com
Plus hide the root from magisk settings.
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Thanks mate, but the Commerzbank Banking App works. The phototan app isn't working, only a very old one from years ago works.

TheFerhatKing said:
Thanks mate, but the Commerzbank Banking App works. The phototan app isn't working, only a very old one from years ago works.
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I did a test for you and add the new installed phototan app to my bank-account. Works nice.
Don't forget:
-Install https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/releases
-hide root for the app
Testet with:
-Magisk v23
-installed https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/releases
-Xiaomi mi 9t - davinci
-LOS MicroG Rom
-app: 12.9.4 - de.commerzbanking.mobil

I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
I did a test for you and add the new installed phototan app to my bank-account. Works nice.
Don't forget:
-Install https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/releases
-hide root for the app
Testet with:
-Magisk v23
-installed https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/releases
-Xiaomi mi 9t - davinci
-LOS MicroG Rom
-app: 12.9.4 - de.commerzbanking.mobil
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Both apps are already hidden, the ROM is prepatched with SafetyNet Fix so everything green. Also Magisk v23 Stable.
Recent Banking App doesn't show rooted anymore but Phototan still force closing for me.

You should try an older version. Force closing could be same problem some users report on google-Playstore.
Look at apkcombo to grab an older version.

TheFerhatKing said:
Thanks mate, but the Commerzbank Banking App works. The phototan app isn't working, only a very old one from years ago works.
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TheFerhatKing said:
Both apps are already hidden, the ROM is prepatched with SafetyNet Fix so everything green. Also Magisk v23 Stable.
Recent Banking App doesn't show rooted anymore but Phototan still force closing for me.
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I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
You should try an older version. Force closing could be same problem some users report on google-Playstore.
Look at apkcombo to grab an older version.
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Have a look in this thread:
Comdirect photoTAN app detecting root
Since version 8.3.0 additional measures to detect root have been added, do not update as MagiskHide won't be able to prevent detection. Until a solution is found I would recommend staying on the previous version for as long as possible. Finding...
forum.xda-developers.com

Comdirect photoTAN app detecting root

Since version 8.3.0 additional measures to detect root have been added, do not update as MagiskHide won't be able to prevent detection. Until a solution is found I would recommend staying on the previous version for as long as possible.
Finding out what exactly is causing the root detection is beyond my technical abilities but I would provide as much information needed to those willing to help.
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Update: December 14th 2021 - Method no longer sufficient
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The solution found by @pxrave appears to be working:
pxrave said:
Hey fellas I got it working and others apps detect magisk before.
Update to latest v23
Install modules riru and riru unshare
Remove data from tan app
Go to magisk hide and tick all process to hide included the isolated
Start the tan app and do the activation again.
Problem you need wait 2 days to activate because comdirect use new activation process for photo tan app.
Working fine all version 8.3
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Link to the Riru Unshare module:
GitHub - vvb2060/riru-unshare
Contribute to vvb2060/riru-unshare development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com

also stcpay yesterday is updated to 1.6 and started to detect my magisk canary (22105)

I can confirm what swour says.
on Android 9 and 11, my magisk root is recognized, magiskhide is active and the phototan app is added.

Yes this is a serious problem. I used xposed magisk and x privacy... Latest comdirect tan app detect all...

+1

+1 big issue for me

Only solution I found (for now): Go back to version 8.2.1 using a backup or any mirror, e.g. https://downloadapk.net/comdirect-photoTAN-App.html
Unfortunately you need to register again then

I have already applied the update. The easiest method is to wait few days for a magisk fix, right? I would can wait few days, no problem. I have an absolutly clean Android 8.1 build on the phone for banking. It's crazy that the bank is make it so difficult for us to use a save own build.

allrightlite said:
The easiest method is to wait few days for a magisk fix, right? I would can wait few days, no problem.
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Perhaps that is too optimistic. I doubt that one app is of great interest

Asellus said:
one app is of great interest
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Until the new root detection is also available for other apps, it will be fixed quickly.

Conan179 said:
Until the new root detection is also available for other apps, it will be fixed quickly.
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Thanks, then I will easly wait. No need to reactivate hopefully.

Conan179 said:
Until the new root detection is also available for other apps, it will be fixed quickly.
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Yes, of course, if other app developers find a similar way. So, congrats to the developers of the phototan app to find it.

Asellus said:
Yes, of course, if other app developers find a similar way. So, congrats to the developers of the phototan app to find it.
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I don't think so, there is at least one other app that shows the same behavior.
new root dedction
i updated stc pay yesterday to 1.6 and it found my magisk canary (22105) the think i notes is the (isolated) is added to the app !!!
forum.xda-developers.com
I also noticed the (isolated) thing with me.

I tried with v23 this morning, w/o success :-(

Same here, got v23 and working safetynet-fix, no success. Downgraded photoTAN to v8.2.1 .

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I'm not surprised, there is nothing in the changelog that this has been fixed.

Downgrading to 8.2.0 or 8.2.1 doesn't work for me. Did you do something else than uninstalling 8.3.0 and installing 8.2.1?

muschi.muscholini said:
Downgrading to 8.2.0 or 8.2.1 doesn't work for me. Did you do something else than uninstalling 8.3.0 and installing 8.2.1?
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I have a ZTE Blade L130 with the old photo tan app, that is my rescue. But you can't activate the old one. But it's keep working.

muschi.muscholini said:
Downgrading to 8.2.0 or 8.2.1 doesn't work for me. Did you do something else than uninstalling 8.3.0 and installing 8.2.1?
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I had to unhide the app in magisk hide and hide it again, after that it worked.

[issue] : My bank app is detecting rooted phone despite Magisk

Hello,
I own a Samsung A5 (2016) running LineageOS.
Since several versions of Magisk (presently I'm running v23), my bank app detects that my phone is rooted, and then refuses to work, despite I added this app to MagiskHide list.
Could you please have a look, and try to solve this issue ?
Test case :
app : Monabanq from the Play Store
select the upper button "JE SUIS DEJA CLIENT" (in french)
get then a red box "Informations sécurité
Pour des raisons de sécurité, l'application ne supporte plus les appareils rootés. Pour continuer d'utiliser l'application, enlevez le root si vous l'avez mis en place vous-même ou contactez votre revendeur pour réinitialiser le téléphone."
And I can't access the next screen requesting credentials to logon.
Thanks by advance.
Best regards

You don't mention anything about hiding the Magisk app. I'd start by trying that. There's an option for it in the app settings. Afterwards you'll see that the "package" entry in the nation window has changed to a random string. It's still possible to detect the Magisk app after that, but it's harder and not all detection methods have started doing that yet.

Hello,
Thanks for trying to help me.
Sorry I forgot to tell that I already had hiden Magisk app.
But despite it, my bank app still detects it.
:-(

Ok.
When I tested the app I had no issues hiding from it. I have the Magisk app hidden and add the Monabanq app to the Hide list and the "Informations sécurité..." message never appeared (it did with the app not on the Hide list).
This was tested on my OnePlus 5T, Android 11 custom ROM. No mods like EdXposed/LSPosed, etc...
Magisk can hide from the app, it seems, but maybe you're not using an up-to-date Android version (hiding is harder on older Android releases) or the app is using some other popular detection technique like finding root apps or directors on your device (Titanium Backup and the TWRP directory are popular choices, and I have neither on my device).
There are some updates that need to be done to my Magisk guide, but you can find more things here:
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskHide#hn_Hiding_root_from_apps

Just FYI, my phone is an old Samsung A5 2016, running LineageOS 17.1 (then based on Android 10), and TWRP.
No mods, no Titanium backup,..
I've just tested to remove /TWRP directory from my phone (after moving it to my laptop for backup).
Without success : root is still detected.
I'll read the link you supply above, to try getting some more ideas/tests to perform.
Thanks for your help.

I've finally solved the issue :
Since the internal storage of my "old" phone is only 8 GB, I added an external SD card that I formated as adoptable storage.
I've checked my bank app location and found that it was installed on SD card.
Then after moving it to the internal storage, I can know run it successfully (the app still in Magisk hidelist, and Magisk app switched to hidden).
The topic may be switched to "Solved".
Thanks

That's great. And that's a common issue that I for some reason airways forget about... Glad you managed to solve it.

Didgeridoohan said:
Ok.
When I tested the app I had no issues hiding from it. I have the Magisk app hidden and add the Monabanq app to the Hide list and the "Informations sécurité..." message never appeared (it did with the app not on the Hide list).
This was tested on my OnePlus 5T, Android 11 custom ROM. No mods like EdXposed/LSPosed, etc...
Magisk can hide from the app, it seems, but maybe you're not using an up-to-date Android version (hiding is harder on older Android releases) or the app is using some other popular detection technique like finding root apps or directors on your device (Titanium Backup and the TWRP directory are popular choices, and I have neither on my device).
There are some updates that need to be done to my Magisk guide, but you can find more things here:
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskHide#hn_Hiding_root_from_apps
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Can you help me with app money app i.saku

sottaquadrat said:
Can you help me with app money app i.saku
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You mean this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.isaku.app.mitra
Exactly the same reply regarding that app as in the post you quoted.

Didgeridoohan said:
You mean this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.isaku.app.mitra
Exactly the same reply regarding that app as in the post you quoted.
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Sorry, i mean https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.isaku.app

Didgeridoohan said:
You mean this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.isaku.app.mitra
Exactly the same reply regarding that app as in the post you quoted.
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Tks for reply, i'm done with riru - unshare

sottaquadrat said:
Tks for reply, i'm done with riru - unshare
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Glad you got things working on your own, because I couldn't test that app (not available in my country)...

[Discussion] How to bypass detections of rooting ?

Did you have problems with some app that detects the root ?
Here is your place.
We will try to help you.
Keep attention, this is just a help thread, nothing is guaranteed.
Be patient and cordial.
If there is acceptance of the community on the subject, certainly the thread will grow.
Before posting your reply, please describe some questions:
- What is the version of Android ?
- What is the name of the app, the package of the app and where can we download the app ?
- When does exactly the app crash ?
- Are you using a custom/modded ROM or a stock ROM ?
- Which magisk modules are enabled ?
- Which xposed modules are enabled ?
Don't forget to attach some screenshots.

Some Useful Content For Bypassing Detections:
Shamiko:
https://github.com/LSPosed/LSPosed.github.io
DenylistUnmount:
https://github.com/mywalkb/DenylistUnmount
XPrivacyLua:
https://repo.xposed.info/module/eu.faircode.xlua
https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacyLua
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-xposed-6-0-xprivacylua-android-privacy-manager.3730663/
Universal SafetyNet Fix:
https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-module-universal-safetynet-fix-1-1-0.4217823/
InitRcHider
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/module-initrchider.4369285/
Magisk Hide Props Config:
https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/MagiskHidePropsConf
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...safetynet-prop-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/
Hide My Applist:
https://github.com/Dr-TSNG/Hide-My-Applist
RootCloak:
https://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
https://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak2
https://github.com/devadvance/rootcloak
https://github.com/devadvance/rootcloakplus
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...e-root-from-specific-apps-2014-01-14.2574647/
MomoHider:
https://github.com/canyie/Riru-MomoHider
RiruUnshare:
https://github.com/vvb2060/riru-unshare
XPrivacy:
https://repo.xposed.info/module/biz.bokhorst.xprivacy
https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacy
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xprivacy-the-ultimate-yet-easy-to-use-privacy-manager.2320783/
Some Useful Content For Checking Detections:
VD Infos:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/VDInfos.4097379/
Momo:
https://t.me/magiskalpha/517
XposedDetector:
https://github.com/vvb2060/XposedDetector
MagiskDetector:
https://github.com/vvb2060/MagiskDetector
ApplistDetector:
https://github.com/Dr-TSNG/ApplistDetector
NativeDetector:
https://github.com/LSPosed/NativeDetector
YASNAC - SafetyNet Checker:
https://github.com/RikkaW/YASNAC/releases

Reserved.

It appears July patch defeated Magisk Deny List and USNF.
No Netflix install/update
No Wallet/Pay

mingkee said:
It appears July patch defeated Magisk Deny List and USNF.
No Netflix install/update
No Wallet/Pay
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hi, good idea! So I use magisk 25.2, denylist, zygisk, shamiko.
i'm on LOS 19.1 on samsung galaxy tab a (sm-t 550). Hiding root works, but MOMo detects 'abnormal' circumstances (see attachment). Banking apps (S pushTan und VR securego crashes.
i renamed TWRP folder, Magisk and TitaniumBackup, freezed magisk app, I deactivated Developer options and debugging - guess I tried everything Didgeridoohan advices. cleared cache and data - the banking apps won't work. What can I do further?

abagm said:
hi, good idea! So I use magisk 25.2, denylist, zygisk, shamiko.
i'm on LOS 19.1 on samsung galaxy tab a (sm-t 550). Hiding root works, but MOMo detects 'abnormal' circumstances (see attachment). Banking apps (S pushTan und VR securego crashes.
i renamed TWRP folder, Magisk and TitaniumBackup, freezed magisk app, I deactivated Developer options and debugging - guess I tried everything Didgeridoohan advices. cleared cache and data - the banking apps won't work. What can I do further?
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Try NOT to use Shamiko (crashes in some/many apps), try this for an alternative

Stillhard said:
Try NOT to use Shamiko (crashes in some/many apps), try this for an alternative
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abagm said:
okay. did so, loaded initRcHider as well - no luck. Denylist seems working, Momo does not mention magisk or zygisk or lsposed. Maybe SELinux permissive is the culprit? Seems that banking apps have got too strict - LOS 17 and pure old magisk hide did the job. Broken TEE, Seccomp???
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Custom ROMs will always shown as abnormal because they are abnormal.
If they were not abnormal, they could not work.
About seliux permissive, this will always be a big red alert.

Hi @VD171
Thanks for creating this thread!
Please keep up the good work
abagm said:
Seems that banking apps have got too strict
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If banking app is too intrusive then you can simply access your online banking website through browser app and do your transactions from there
Browser app will never check if you got root or if your selinux is permissive or other things! Because it's none of its business!

lebigmac said:
Hi @VD171
Thanks for creating this thread!
Please keep up the good work
If banking app is too intrusive then you can simply access your online banking website through browser app and do your transactions from there
Browser app will never check if you got root or if your selinux is permissive or other things! Because it's none of its business!
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lebigmac said:
Hi @VD171
Thanks for creating this thread!
Please keep up the good work
If banking app is too intrusive then you can simply access your online banking website through browser app and do your transactions from there
Browser app will never check if you got root or if your selinux is permissive or other things! Because it's none of its business!
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You're right- I can access the online banking via browser. But to do transaction, I need apps - that's why I complain 🫠

VD171 said:
Custom ROMs will always shown as abnormal because they are abnormal.
If they were not abnormal, they could not work.
About seliux permissive, this will always be a big red alert.
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lebigmac said:
Hi @VD171
Thanks for creating this thread!
Please keep up the good work
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Thank you, sir. I will help always as I can
lebigmac said:
If banking app is too intrusive then you can simply access your online banking website through browser app and do your transactions from there
Browser app will never check if you got root or if your selinux is permissive or other things! Because it's none of its business!
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We need ways for distinguishing unexperienced users and users who assume full responsibility for their own use.
Apps delivers many new possibilities and services, banking through browser app isn't enough actually.

abagm said:
Thank you for this thread!
Yeah, that is true. i hoped there are ways to disguise the complaints of MOMo (for example such a thing like renaming addon.d in /system to disguise "running custom rom"). And LOS 17 did run the banking apps, so I wanted to understand the difference.
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Are you having problem with any specific app?

VD171 said:
Thank you, sir. I will help always as I can
We need ways for distinguishing unexperienced users and users who assume full responsibility for their own use.
Apps delivers many new possibilities and services, banking through browser app isn't enough actually.
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It's true - doing your financial transactions through the web browser feels a little bit prehistoric to say the least but it works and you don't need to waste your precious time trying to hide your root and other customizations from some intrusive apps that shouldn't be intruding on your privacy like that in the first place
I know it's not the perfect solution but the more solutions we have to avoid this annoying safetynet 'feature' altogether the better. I am so happy that I don't need to bother with this useless safetynet 'feature'

lebigmac said:
It's true banking through browser app is a little bit prehistoric but it works and you don't need to waste your precious time trying to hide your root and other customizations from some intrusive apps that shouldn't be intruding on your privacy like that
I know it's not the perfect solution but the more solutions we have to overcome these annoying safetynet requirements the better. I am so happy that I don't need to bother with all this useless safetynet this safetynet that
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Any type of detection can be bypassed.
Even native methods can be bypassed, because Android app's run on java.
So, at sometime and somewhere, results are given to/from java.

VD171 said:
Are you having problem with any specific app?
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abagm said:
Yes, those banking apps BestSign (it detects root immediatly but can be used), S-PushTAN and VR-SecureGo. these three worked on rooted 'unnormal' LOS 17.1 but don't work now in 19.1. Momo said magisk and LSPosed were hidden butcomplains about that unnormal enviroment.
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When does exactly the app crash?
May you attach some screenshots?
I've tried all them.
All them are working fine for me.

VD171 said:
When does exactly the app crash?
May you attach some screenshots?
I've tried all them.
All them are working fine for me.
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---throwing in the towel - can't get it work as I wanted to. WIll return to the working version of ROM - and be proud to be outdated ...