One great phone marred by poor Xiaomi support - Xiaomi Black Shark 3 Pro Guides, News, & Discussio

In done of hardware and gaming experience, this is THE BEST GAMING phone I have used till date and I have used quite of them as a serious gamer (Razer 1, ROG 2, ROG 3 - limited, Black shark 3 pro, Nubia Red Magic 5s, iPhone 11 Pro Max).
While the OS and some trigger features might not be as complex as ROG phones, here are a few features that separate the phone from rest of the pack:
1) Physical triggers/ shoulder buttons are way better to play with vs. the capacitive triggers on ROG and Red Magic (Red magic triggers suck to be honest). They work even when not using the gaming mode (or shark space mode), unlike Nubia where the triggers work only in RM gaming mode
2) Shark space is very intuitive and much better interface esp compared to Nubia
3) Compared to Rog 2 and Red Magic 5s, the phone remains much cooler even during long gaming sessions (2hrs plus). No significant lags/ frame drops even when the phone is hot.
4) Battery lasts significantly longer during gaming vs. Rog 2 and RM 5s
5) Much better build accessories which also work with other phones unlike ROG where you are stuck with the Asus ecosystem (my rog 2 dock is lying idle since my rog 2 died). The keyboard works great with pc gaming as well as other android devices. Although I usually game on my phone but once a while using keyboard is fun
However, most of the benefits just stop there, and here are the reasons why it is not the first choice for a junkie who wants to get the full out of his phone:
1) Extremely limited Xiaomi support on opening up the software. People still struggle to find global ROMs and rooting the phone for custom ROMs is a nightmare (at least now its free, when I purchased the phone you couldn't root it without paying someone in Xiaomi for it)
2) Some of the great software features in gaming phones are missing:
a) Game recording sucks. If you turn your in game mic on or off during gameplay, chances are audio will stop recording (in game). No matter how many permutations and combinations you try.
b) No way to create automated montage videos like the Red Magic Moment on the phone. The shark time, while eating away the phone battery, is a lousy piece of software (you need to click the icon everytime to make a kill and it will store 15-20 seconds of the video as a file). Having a red magic moment like feature will really push sales of this phone like crazy vs. Nubia. But they wont do it. Neither would they open up to help independent developers build a feature like this.
3) Extremely poor post sales support/ feedback. Unlike ROG (which has a dedicated forum on their website led by Asus employees) where sales and tech support continuously take in feedback to refine their product (example the desktop dock which I worked with their mods for quick updates and refinement), there is no seemingly easy way to connect with Black shark developers to give feedback, forget about requesting new features
I wonder if the developers at Xiaomi even read forums like XDA to help improve their connect with buyers and work on their shortcomings.

Just look at the Android security patch we are at... They are not even bothered.
This phone is last on their list, all the redmi and poco has started receiving Android 11.
Xiaomi should have mentioned zero support on blackshark page.
We don't even have proper gesture based navigation in 2021.

Yeah Global support is really bad. Android security patch is old from 5 may 2020 and still no word about Android 11. It's a shame because the phone it self is still great.
They also focusing now on the new Black Shark 4, but that's no excuse.

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WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Yeah Global support is really bad. Android security patch is old from 5 may 2020 and still no word about Android 11. It's a shame because the phone it self is still great.
They also focusing now on the new Black Shark 4, but that's no excuse.
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They won’t be able to sell many 4 pros if people with bs 3 and 3 pro are struggling. This is why asus sells many more units even though the triggers of bs3 are way better.

The worst part is in China it gets more updates than globally. They should have mentioned this is a China only phone then I would have just brought an OnePlus again or a samsung.

possible for International version flashing a China Rom?

Phones that have received MIUI12 so far
Redmi 8A Pro – NEW
Redmi 8A Dual (India) – NEW
Redmi 7 (China)
Xiaomi Mi 6X (China)
Redmi Note 6 Pro (Global)
Redmi 7A (China, India, Global, EEA, Russia)
Redmi Note 5 /Note 5 Pro
POCO M2 (India)
Redmi 8 (China, Global, Russia, Europe, Indonesia)
Redmi Note 8 (China, India, Indonesia)
Redmi Note 9s (Europe)
Redmi 9 Prime (India)
Xiaomi Mi 8 Explorer Edition (China)
Xiaomi Mi 8 (Global)
Xiaomi Mi 8 Pro (China, Global, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 8 SE (China)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G (Europe)
Redmi 9T (India, Global)
Xiaomi Mi 9 SE (China version, Global, Russia, Europe)
Poco F1
Redmi Note 7 (China, India)
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 (Global, Europe, Indonesia)
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Lite (Global,Europe, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Pro (Global , Indonesia)
Redmi 6 Pro (China, India)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 (China, Global, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s (China,Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro (China version, Europe, Global)
Redmi Note 9 (Global version, Europe, India, Russia, Turkey)
Xiaomi Mi 8 Lite (China, Russia, Global)
Redmi 10X 4G (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 9T (Global version,Russia, Europe)
Xiaomi Mi 10 (China, Global version, Europe)
Redmi Note 8 Pro (Global version, China version, India, Indonesia, Europe, Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (Global version,Russia)
Poco F2 Pro (European version,Russia, Indonesia)
Poco X2 ( Resumed in India)
Redmi 10X 5G (China version)
Redmi 10X Pro 5G (China version)
Redmi Note 7 (China version, India,Russia)
Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite (China version,Europe version)
Xiaomi Redmi K30 Pro (China)
Redmi Note 7 Pro (China, India)
Mi 10 Lite 5G (Europe)
Mi CC9 Pro (China)
Mi CC9 (China)
Mi CC9 Meitu Edition (China)
Mi 9 Lite (Russia, Europe, Global)
Redmi 9 (China, India, Global, Russia, Indonesia, EEA)
Xiaomi Mi MIX 2
Pocophone F1 /Poco F1 (Russia, Global)
Redmi Note 9 Pro (India, Turkey, Russia, Europe)
Redmi Note 9 Pro Max (India)
Poco M2 Pro (India)
Xiaomi Mi Note 3 (China, Global)
Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G (Global)
Redmi 8A (China, Europe, Russia, Global, India, Indonesia)
Redmi Note 8T (Global, Europe, Russia)
Redmi K20 Pro Premium (China version)
Redmi K30 5G Racing (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 9 Explorer (China version)
Xiaomi Redmi K30 Zoom (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite Zoom (China version)
Xiaomi Redmi K30 5G (China version)
Xiaomi Mi 9 (China and European version)
Xiaomi Redmi K20 (China, India version)
Xiaomi Redmi K20 Pro (China, India version)

lonnieo said:
possible for International version flashing a China Rom?
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Not sure. But even if it is, be prepared to lose nfc and also limited languages support.

Black Shark 3 Pro doesn't have NFC. But yes Chinese rom is ony English and Chinese language.

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Black Shark 3 Pro doesn't have NFC. But yes Chinese rom is ony English and Chinese language.
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Thanks for clarification. My mistake. Got confused with rm device on nfc. Bs3 pro doesn’t have nfc on any version.

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jananan
3 days ago
is my phone ever getting new joyui or Android 11? the security patch version is very old.
Jason
21 hours ago
Hello
Regular patch and security patch will be rolling out on 3 series this month, plz be patient.
As for joy ui 12, we do not have an estimate for global release yet, plz subscribe to our facebook page and get first hand news.
Best Regards,
Black Shark Global

Wow, what i read now about the Black Shark 4 Pro really sucks. I'm not going to buy it if true.
Last year’s Black Shark Pro 3 was one of the phones with the biggest displays with a massive 7.1-inch screen 90Hz AMOLED panel with a 2k+ resolution. This year, Black Shark has cut down not only the screen size but also the resolution. The Black Shark 4 Pro will have a 6.67-inch screen with a 1080p resolution. We don’t know the screen size and resolution of the standard model but the resolution will most definitely be 1080p too.

jananan said:
jananan
3 days ago
is my phone ever getting new joyui or Android 11? the security patch version is very old.
Jason
21 hours ago
Hello
Regular patch and security patch will be rolling out on 3 series this month, plz be patient.
As for joy ui 12, we do not have an estimate for global release yet, plz subscribe to our facebook page and get first hand news.
Best Regards,
Black Shark Global
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Please add a decent recorder for games. Your current screen recorder sucks.

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Wow, what i read now about the Black Shark 4 Pro really sucks. I'm not going to buy it if true.
Last year’s Black Shark Pro 3 was one of the phones with the biggest displays with a massive 7.1-inch screen 90Hz AMOLED panel with a 2k+ resolution. This year, Black Shark has cut down not only the screen size but also the resolution. The Black Shark 4 Pro will have a 6.67-inch screen with a 1080p resolution. We don’t know the screen size and resolution of the standard model but the resolution will most definitely be 1080p too.
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It is the new Xiaomi way keep using same display etc on various phones keep tweaking speeds camera etc and churn out endless phones with small differences....6.67 inches...just see how many Xiaomi phones have this display size now.,,,just today they announced 3 more...lol

they even ported joyui 12 to other redmi devices , unofficially by forummers

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Mi 9 versions

Hi, I'm looking these days to buy a new smartphone, but I'm confused as far as xiaomi with all these mi 9.
So we have :
Mi 9: sd855 China/global
Mi 9 pro: sd855+ China
Same for mi 9 pro 5g. China.
Mi 9t: sd855 global
Mi 9t pro: sd855 global
K20: sd855 China
K20 pro: sd855 China
K20 pro premium: sd855+ China
So there is no mi 9t pro with sd855+ global. Right ?
And no mi 9 pro with sd855+ global right ?
So in a few words , in the global market there is no xiaomi with sd855+ ???
Enlighten me. I need global and I need sd855+ with that imx586 sensor or better. I simply want the best.
Mi mix alpha is out of question. I'd better buy a car at that price.
kessaras said:
Hi, I'm looking these days to buy a new smartphone, but I'm confused as far as xiaomi with all these mi 9.
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Yes, the situation it's absolutely SUPER confused
Thanks Xiaomi, it's pretty hard hahah.
Anyway, let's try to complete the puzzle.
kessaras said:
Mi 9: sd855 China/global
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Yes
kessaras said:
Mi 9 pro: sd855+ China
Same for mi 9 pro 5g. China.
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Yes
kessaras said:
Mi 9t: sd855 global
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No. S730
kessaras said:
Mi 9t pro: sd855 global
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Yes
kessaras said:
K20: sd855 China
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No, S730
kessaras said:
K20 pro: sd855 China
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Yes
kessaras said:
K20 pro premium: sd855+ China
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Yes
kessaras said:
So there is no mi 9t pro with sd855+ global. Right ?
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Yes, Mi9 T pro is always 855 both CHINA and GLOBAL.
kessaras said:
And no mi 9 pro with sd855+ global right ?
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Yes, Mi 9 pro and Mi 9 pro 5G have S855+ but actually NOT available in europe.
kessaras said:
So in a few words , in the global market there is no xiaomi with sd855+ ???
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Only Black Shark 2 Pro, Mi Mix Alpha, but Mi 9 pro and Mi 9 Pro 5G may come to europe in future.
kessaras said:
Enlighten me. I need global and I need sd855+ with that imx586 sensor or better. I simply want the best.
Mi mix alpha is out of question. I'd better buy a car at that price.
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Remeber that Chinese and Global versions have different LTE bands, and in europe many operators use B20, that is not available on Chinese versions, so you'll get BAD signal reception.
Global version has LTE FDD: B20/B28. Chinese version has LTE FDD: B17; LTE TDD: B34/B41. Rest of bands are the same.
To sum up.
- Mi 9 SE: SD712 6GB RAM 18W 3070Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi9 Lite: SD710 6GB 18W 4030Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi 9t: SD730 6GB RAM 18W 4000Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- K20: SD730 6GB RAM 18W 4000Mah CHINA
- Mi 9: SD855 6/8GB RAM 27W 3300Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi 9 EE (Explorer Edition): SD855 12GB RAM 27W 3300Mah GLOBAL/CHINA
- Mi 9t Pro: SD855 6GB RAM 27W 4000Mah GLOBAL
- K20 Pro: SD855 6GB RAM 27W 4000Mah CHINA
- K20 Pro Premium: SD855+ 8/12GB RAM 27W 4000Mah CHINA
- Mi 9 Pro/Pro 5G: SD855+ 8GB RAM, 40W 4000Mah CHINA
I highlighted in RED "negative" aspects.
To complete the list. (On 20/10/2019)
Simply, if you want an global 855+, wait for Q1 2020
Nope, Mi 9T is not available in China, it's a Redmi K20 for the rest of the world, while the K20 is India and China only.
Same for the Mi 9T Pro and Redmi K20 Pro.

Can someone clarify

So, I just bought a Mi 9T Pro a week ago. I've been saving and looking forward to this phone since it got released. The box cover, IMEI serial number for product verification on Xiaomi website and the setting 'about phone' itself confirms it is a legitimate Mi 9T Pro. However, because I linked my e-mail to Google by Find My Phone, it says otherwise, a K20 Pro instead. I was devastated and confronted the mobile store, they argued it can not be, if it were to be K20 Pro there would be no playstore, plus it even runs on Android 10.
Funny thing is, the latest update on my phone is and stays with MIUI 11.0. 3.0 similar to K20 alone. While the Mi 9T Pro latest update is V11.0.5. Does my current phone have to do with 'Asian region' compared to the actual Mi 9T Pro Global model?
There's so much wrong with this.
It is most likely a mi 9t pro, it's just Google doing Google things.
K20 pro has play services and play store is available to install on Xiaomi app store, it's just not installed by default. If your phone was a k20 pro it would be fairly obvious... Chinese language on by default...
What do you mean 'it even runs on Android 10?'
No. you have global version not eea version. Latest global is 11.0.3 and eea and China is at 11.0.5.
And what it on the back of the phone? Mi or Redmi? Btw I checked and Google Find my phone for me says it's "Mi 9T Pro"
This is weird. Like hoopsnake said, could just be google doing google things.
Global just got updated to 11.0.5, so you can wait a bit for it to reach your phone. Where did you buy if from anyway?
Mi 9t Pro and k20 pro are the same except for software. You can check if you have a mi 9t pro by looking at Netflix resolution, if it's 1080 then it's mi9
Sir, I have a k20 pro, k20 pro also has L1widevine support, it's just the case with indian variant which I have, maybe google is taking it as the india k20 pro, or you got an indian variant, it may not be the most popular opinion but indian variant is in fact the best one, you can check which rom you have, i can tell you all the details of my phone if you need to cross check anything

Question Any Info on this?

I'm looking to upgrade from my Redmi note 7 pro in 2021. Going to stick with Redmi. Any experience with this model anyone?
This is Redmi Note 8/8T with bigger screen and battery.
Planning to buy this phone. It'll be an upgrade from Redmi Note 4! Lets see if I can buy it in Flash sales
See;
Xiaomi unveils the Redmi 9T and Redmi Note 9T mid-range smartphones
The Redmi 9T and the Redmi Note 9T have been unveiled by Xiaomi in Europe. Here are the specs, features, and prices of these mid-range phones.
www.xda-developers.com
arvindgr said:
Planning to buy this phone. It'll be an upgrade from Redmi Note 4! Lets see if I can buy it in Flash sales
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Haha, me too planing to buy the phone, currently using redmi note 4x too. Saw a deal in aliexpress where the 64gb version is $139. Unfortunately, it doesn't ship to my country
buy redmi 9 power
Bought Redmi 9T as my 2nd phone a.k.a work phone. Loving it. Better view for Outlook, Teams, SharePoint compared to my main phone Pixel 5.
arvindgr said:
Planning to buy this phone. It'll be an upgrade from Redmi Note 4! Lets see if I can buy it in Flash sales
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same here
GoodyOG said:
Haha, me too planing to buy the phone, currently using redmi note 4x too. Saw a deal in aliexpress where the 64gb version is $139. Unfortunately, it doesn't ship to my country
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Check Other Store/ Showroom to buy
KPVai49 said:
buy redmi 9 power
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Redmi 9T / 9 Power / Note 9 4G all are same devices. Just, 9T launched Globally, 9 Power launched in India & Note 9 4G in China. But, codenames & full phone is same (lime). Just, software/ rom little vary.. Global / India / China rom
TanimMIUI said:
Redmi 9T / 9 Power / Note 9 4G all are same devices. Just, 9T launched Globally, 9 Power launched in India & Note 9 4G in China. But, codenames & full phone is same (lime). Just, software/ rom little vary.. Global / India / China rom
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I have redmi 9T NFC bought in Europe and when I run "fastboot getvar version" I get codename 'lemon', even though I've been using all custom software for lime version and it works fine haha
CuriousAzaraMonkey said:
I have redmi 9T NFC bought in Europe and when I run "fastboot getvar version" I get codename 'lemon', even though I've been using all custom software for lime version and it works fine haha
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Yeah, You are right. The NFC version codename 'lemon' but 'lime' ROMs are comfortable with it. Cause, everything is same just you have NFC.

Redmi Note 9 5G same as Note 9T?

Hello everyone.
According to this release ( https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-9t-redmi-note-9t-unveiled/ ):
"The Redmi Note 9T is the same as the Redmi Note 9 5G, and the Redmi 9T is the same as the Redmi Note 9 4G — both of which launched in China in November last year.”
I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 9T 5G. If they're the same, does that mean I can install custom ROMs intended for the Redmi Note 9 if they are the same? Thank you.
I compared the differences using this site ( https://phonesdata.com/en/compare/5459105/5459048/ ) and they seem very similar, with exact same processor, GPU, and chips, the main difference I noticed was just the storage sizes offered.

Question Poco m3 pro or Redmi note 10 5g?

Do you know the difference between poco m3 pro and note 10 5g?
M3pro exists in 2 versions 4gb and 6gb and note 10 5g only 4gb.
You can buy m3pro 6gb for the same price like note (or cheaper, I paid 170$).
3 years ago I bought last device with 4gb. Today this small ram does not have a sense. Is redmi note 10 5g absolutely without a sense?
How can we classify the m3pro\note ?
It is comparable to redmi note 8 pro, and this is not budget level, where we have redmi 9a, m3 ... We can not compare it to redmi 9. There is shorter way to device with snap 71x.
Why I see many news titled: new budget 5g smartfon?
It should be reserved for snap 480 devices like new announced one plus.
Tomek0000 said:
Do you know the difference between poco m3 pro and note 10 5g?
M3pro exists in 2 versions 4gb and 6gb and note 10 5g only 4gb.
You can buy m3pro 6gb for the same price like note (or cheaper, I paid 170$).
3 years ago I bought last device with 4gb. Today this small ram does not have a sense. Is redmi note 10 5g absolutely without a sense?
How can we classify the m3pro\note ?
It is comparable to redmi note 8 pro, and this is not budget level, where we have redmi 9a, m3 ... We can not compare it to redmi 9. There is shorter way to device with snap 71x.
Why I see many news titled: new budget 5g smartfon?
It should be reserved for snap 480 devices like new announced one plus.
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poco m3 pro and note 10 5g are the same phone.(except ram)
redmi note 8 pro(1 year old).
batterie 4500 mAh-
no 5g-
Quad rear camera+
64 Mpx Samsung Bright S5KGW1+
Front camera 20 Mpx+
In my country redmi note 5g version 8gb ram exist and cheap (around 250$), the cheapest 5g smartphone so i decide to buy one
haivu461987 said:
In my country redmi note 5g version 8gb ram exist and cheap (around 250$), the cheapest 5g smartphone so i decide to buy one
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Redmi note 10 5g 8 gb ram is the chinesse version with a limited 5g/4g bands in some country.
Which country are you from?
NOSS8 said:
Redmi note 10 5g 8 gb ram is the chinesse version with a limited 5g/4g bands in some country.
Which country are you from?
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I come from vietnam
My version is global, cause google services is fully installed, with L1 widevine to view netflix at best quality
There is no 5g in Vietnam?
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There is no 5g in Vietnam?
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At the moment all telecom company in my country are testing 5g in some important place like Hanoi, hochiminh, Huế city. I'm live in Hanoi and also can try 5g for free
All the spec in the both the phones are exactly the same expect the RAM, which makes the Redmi Note 10 a bit expensive! If you need storage you can go for Note 10. Other than that there is no special specs..
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If you need storage you can go for Note 10.
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Does it have 256GB ? Maybe only China version.
The both have card slot for storage.
Interesting thing , neither realme 8 5g nor realme 7 5g have own place , here in xda forum. Are they very uniqe ?
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In my country redmi note 5g version 8gb ram exist and cheap (around 250$), the cheapest 5g smartphone so i decide to buy one
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I bought m3 pro 6gb for 170$. Additional 2GB ram for 80$ ... it is not cheap but extremly expensive.

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