Coming from the S20 Ultra. NOt sure if its worth the upgrade. Anyone upgrading from S20 Ultra?
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My reasons are the S Pen (I miss the Note experience), adaptive refresh (without entering on screen settings every minute), the Phantom Black color (my carrier sent me a grey S20 Ultra and I hate it) and the camera (hope the S21U won't have the same focus problems of the S20U). And my carrier gives me 680€ for my S20U (a half of the S21U 256GB price).
Im on the Note 20 Ultra now and ordered the S21 Ultra. I skipped the S20 last year so thought Id check it out this year.
The camera and fingerprint sensor Im looking forward to trying but all im all not much of a jump from the note.
force70 said:
Im on the Note 20 Ultra now and ordered the S21 Ultra. I skipped the S20 last year so thought Id check it out this year.
The camera and fingerprint sensor Im looking forward to trying but all im all not much of a jump from the note.
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It's also thicker and heavier than Note 20!
Bigger battery!
Not worth the upgrade besides the camera. It is heavier and thicker. It is more like a downgrade if anything. No microsd, smaller display, same battery. Will wait for next year's
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Bigger battery!
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absolutely right
lucky_strike33 said:
Coming from the S20 Ultra. NOt sure if its worth the upgrade. Anyone upgrading from S20 Ultra?
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Significantly better focus on the S21 ultra, plus 3x AND 10x optical zoom.
If cameras are your #1 consideration then yes, upgrade. If not, then you are probably better to waiting for S22U release.
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Looks like this device is packing a punch, especially now snapdragon will finally hit the uk shores. Any ideas why to look at the s20 Ultra over this device?
Is it going up be possible to unlock the bootloader and install chain recovery and ROM in the Snapdragon version of this phone? From a quick look at the S20 section of this forum only the Exynos versions get custom development.
dj.shauny.g said:
Looks like this device is packing a punch, especially now snapdragon will finally hit the uk shores. Any ideas why to look at the s20 Ultra over this device?
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Nope, none. On a value-for-dollar basis, I think this phone trumps the Ultra hands down. In fact, I just cancelled an order for a Note20 Ultra, as I've realized that I don't need, and likely won't ever use, all those premium features that we pay so much for - this phone looks just right for the price to me.
Mine is shipped and I will get it tomorrow!
Not gonna lie, I'm now having second thoughts as a result of the optical fingerprint sensor and camera performance - not deal breakers for sure at this price point, but security and camera performance are top of my list of priorities, so those give me pause.
Got mine a bit ago. To be honest, i can't tell the difference between the S20 FE and the Note 20 I have been using while waiting for it to arrive.
The S20 FE doesn't have the video enhancer setting, which may or may not make a difference. But also I noted in a super quick camera test, that the Note 20 looked better at 3x zoom than the S20 FE did. I would have thought the S20 would have looked better there.
jtOttawa said:
Not gonna lie, I'm now having second thoughts as a result of the optical fingerprint sensor and camera performance - not deal breakers for sure at this price point, but security and camera performance are top of my list of priorities, so those give me pause.
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Fingerprint sensor works fine. It's as fast as the sensor on my Huawei P30 Pro and so far hasn't failed to read my fingerprint.
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Fingerprint sensor works fine. It's as fast as the sensor on my Huawei P30 Pro and so far hasn't failed to read my fingerprint.
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Would you be able to check if the 40W SuperCharger from your P30 Pro works with the S20 FE at 25W?
I'm upgrading from a broken P30 and it would be cool if I didn't have to buy the 25W Samsung charger.
Cheers
My S20 FE 5G is coming today, really excited :victory:
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Would you be able to check if the 40W SuperCharger from your P30 Pro works with the S20 FE at 25W?
I'm upgrading from a broken P30 and it would be cool if I didn't have to buy the 25W Samsung charger.
Cheers
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It doesn't work unfortunately. Doesn't seem to be charging any faster than the standard charger.
Hello I am pixel 4 XL I'm undecided to replace the pixel for Samsung s21 ultra mainly because of the new camera of s21 ultra the question if it's worth it ?
oraned said:
Hello I am pixel 4 XL I'm undecided to replace the pixel for Samsung s21 ultra mainly because of the new camera of s21 ultra the question if it's worth it ?
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I also have the Pixel4XL and am tempted to go for the S21 ultra either the 256gb or the 512mb version as I feel the 128gb version would be a waster of money with all that 4k videos an 12 bit raw photos.
I also buy my phones for camera and love the fact that you can get close for macro with the wide angle lens and the 3x and 10x zoom look appealing as well.
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I also have the Pixel4XL and am tempted to go for the S21 ultra either the 256gb or the 512mb version as I feel the 128gb version would be a waster of money with all that 4k videos an 12 bit raw photos.
I also buy my phones for camera and love the fact that you can get close for macro with the wide angle lens and the 3x and 10x zoom look appealing as well.
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In my pixel 4 XL I on camera px and I x10 the results look good but I mean if 21 there is different in x10
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I also have the Pixel4XL and am tempted to go for the S21 ultra either the 256gb or the 512mb version as I feel the 128gb version would be a waster of money with all that 4k videos an 12 bit raw photos.
I also buy my phones for camera and love the fact that you can get close for macro with the wide angle lens and the 3x and 10x zoom look appealing as well.
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Samsung photo processing can't still beat the pixel one.
For me, I'm over the "Ultra/Max Flagship". I don't need/want to spend $1200 even with 0% financing. I would rather spend $700 every two years for 3 new phones ($2100) than $1200 every 3 years for 2 new phones ($2400). I'm 99% sure I'll get the Pixel 6.
I originally bought the s20 ultra for the camera. The photos from it are great but I also brought along my mirrorless camera for anything worthy of photographing. I have grown to dislike how heavy and big the phone is through the years. I am now back to using my P4xl and enjoying it.
Hi guys.
Does it worth to trade my OnePlus 7 Pro with S20 fe?
Thank you.
johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys.
Does it worth to trade my OnePlus 7 Pro with S20 fe?
Thank you.
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If you're not sure, the answer is no - only upgrade for clear improvements/performance gains - otherwise why would you upgrade?
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If you're not sure, the answer is no - only upgrade for clear improvements/performance gains - otherwise why would you upgrade?
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I have oneplus 7 pro 1 and a half year and I want some change.
That's why I'm thinking of S20 fe.
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I have oneplus 7 pro 1 and a half year and I want some change.
That's why I'm thinking of S20 fe.
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there are dozens of videos on YouTube of the OnePlus 8T (newer than yours) up against S20FE and Pixel 4a etc. go watch a bus load of videos and you'll have a better idea. aside from that FE will have a newer processor, a memory card slot or dual SIM, but only you should decide if it's worth it.
remember there are a few versions of the FE and they are not all the same.
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I have oneplus 7 pro 1 and a half year and I want some change.
That's why I'm thinking of S20 fe.
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Nope. It's not worth it. It also charges too slowly compared to oneplus. Wait for s21 fe or oneplus 9
Fullmetal Jun said:
Nope. It's not worth it. It also charges too slowly compared to oneplus. Wait for s21 fe or oneplus 9
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I agree - and I just upgraded to the S20 FE 5G. But I was coming from a Galaxy S9+, which is a year older than your 7 Pro. Even then, the S20 FE doesn't blow me away in comparison - I actually think the screen is nicer (and brighter in normal use) on the S9+, and I'm still getting used to the punch hole camera, and lack of a notification light. I bought it mainly for the increase in storage (as I use the SD Card slot for a second SIM, so can't add memory) and the 120 MHz display, faster processor etc. Even then, I don't really find it noticeably faster in normal use - as I mentioned in another post, it never ceases to amaze me just how much marketing departments and the media exaggerate each year's (real world) improvements. All of which is to say that phones have gotten so good - and have been for a few years now - that it makes no sense to upgrade until you either have to or there is a clear advantage to doing so.
Edit: Having done some more side-by-side comparison, the S20 FE 5G is noticeably faster of course, and the screen is fine. Plus, the battery life has been stellar. All-in-all, it's a great phone for the price - especially the 8GB/256GB 5G version.
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Nope. It's not worth it. It also charges too slowly compared to oneplus.
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You generally don't want your phones to charge really fast, it's extremely detrimental to battery's lifespan. 15W-25W is already overdoing it and should be the maximum for most people.
I rarely get this phone below 50% and then it's up to 75 again pretty quick. if you want your phone to charge faster turn off Wi-Fi, go into airplane mode or even better switch it off for 30 mins.
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I rarely get this phone below 50% and then it's up to 75 again pretty quick. if you want your phone to charge faster turn off Wi-Fi, go into airplane mode or even better switch it off for 30 mins.
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Or, better yet, just don't constantly watch it charge...
Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra??
If you REALLY miss the Note range with integral S-Pen slot then yes, maybe, and depending on price you can get selling your S21 Ultra
For all other reasons, NO the S22U is an S21U with an S-Pen slot and very few enhancements or upgrades over the 2021 models.
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Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra??
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S22 ultra doesn't seem like a huge upgrade over the S21U. If an integrated S-Pen is an absolute must-have for you, then by all means get the new phone. But other than that, I don't see a compelling reason to buy one. The S21 Ultra is still an amazing phone even after a year. And honestly speaking, the design is so iconic, I would choose this over the S22U design anyday (based on all the leaks). But that is a highly subjective matter, so it's upto the buyer. If you can afford it and justify it, go for it. Life is short, do the things you enjoy
Not sure if it's worth but trying to beat the boredom of "life in the time of Covid" I went ahead with the reservation, aiming for the 'ultra'.
Hey, it's not a marriage - I can still send it back if I don't fall in love with it on the first sight.
I know the specs aren't that much better then the S21 ultra, but the s range has always been way cheaper in south africa then the note, so I would like to have the s pen, but it all depends on the price on contract
No, I won't be upgrading. First off there are very few improvements, nothing is innovative. Secondly there have been numerous problems in producing the Exynos/AMD SoC. Thirdly it will ship with Android 12 which to date is still plagued with numerous bugs. The S21 works much better on Android 11.
it happens to almost all phones.
i still own s10 plus, works perfectly
I also get the s21 ultra
tempteing to get s-pen th0
dezborders said:
If you REALLY miss the Note range with integral S-Pen slot then yes, maybe, and depending on price you can get selling your S21 Ultra
For all other reasons, NO the S22U is an S21U with an S-Pen slot and very few enhancements or upgrades over the 2021 models.
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Samsung is generous with trade-in, plus if you resever now, you save 50!
In south africa there is no trade in deals... Just the normal carrier deals... So, hopefully it won't be too expensive
Tbh I don't think it worth upgrading to the S22 Ultra, it's got to the point now where any improvements are only minor even the camera on the S22 Ultra will only be slightly better than the S21 Ultra, plus i wouldn't be surprised once One UI 4.1 hits the S21 Ultra these improvements are brought down from the S22 Ultra.
I've had my S21 Ultra since last July this has been hands down best phone I've ever owned from Samsung, & i've had practically most of the S range & Note's over the years, the only downside to keeping the S21 Ultra really will be waiting slightly longer for updates once the S22 series has launched.
So I'm going to keep enjoying my S21 Ultra until the S23 Ultra next year.
Will see how it goes and what offers and trade ins are available. I have always been an S series user but loved the Spen support on the Ultra. It is a beast and having got the 512gb 16gb ram I could run it another year or so without any hiccups given that I haven't used it to its full pontential due to Covid.
Only thing I am worried with the S22 Ultra is the 45 Fast Charging and the Crammed 5000mah battery which although welcome I am afraid it might have those 'burst into flames' issues samsung had and how the new amd graphics might come with its own issues with Android 12.
No doubt it will have even a more Awesome battery life compared to the S21 Ultra and better Spen support with bluetooth and stuff. I am sure with the New Expert Raw and the Spen Bluetooth functionality they will promote it as a mobile Photographers Dream phone not to mention the ease of editing with the Spen.
Have my options open and will see how it pans out.
Wouldnt want to be a guinea pig for SD 8 Gen1. New and unproven soc.
For S21 Ultra users, the trade in deal needs to be great, otherwise it is not worth the upgrade, simple as that imo
Thanks for everybody given their input....
New camera sensor for even more light/detail
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
S-Pen with higher latency and accuracy than previous
Best screen on market with even more brightness
And hopefully flat display instead of waterfall wasteful curved screen (fingers crossed on this)
Pls upgrade is free to me, so it's a 'hell yeah' from me.
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New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
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torontocomfortzone said:
Samsung is generous with trade-in, plus if you resever now, you save 50!
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In the USA yes Samsung is ultra generous with trade-in. In UK not so much ...
Outside of US, ebay and FB Marketplace selling prices are much higher than trade in.
lywyn said:
New camera sensor for even more light/detail
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
S-Pen with higher latency and accuracy than previous
Best screen on market with even more brightness
And hopefully flat display instead of waterfall wasteful curved screen (fingers crossed on this)
Pls upgrade is free to me, so it's a 'hell yeah' from me.
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"New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available"
Samsung has experienced numerous production issues with the Exynos 2200 SoC. Out of an entire wafer only a few chipsets are functional. Raytracing is misleading since there are currently no apps capable of raytracing integration on smartphones. In Geekbench 5 tests the Exynos/AMD 2200 was out performed not only by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 but the Snapdragon 888 also. There may be a few good reasons to buy an S22 but hoping for a better SoC isn't one of them.
Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888
Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888. The new flagship chipset Samsung lost to all competitors.
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TheInfiniteAndroid said:
For S21 Ultra users, the trade in deal needs to be great, otherwise it is not worth the upgrade, simple as that imo
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It will probably be enough for the lower end ripoff 8GB version IF they do a trade-in
termdj said:
Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra
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Here's how it's going to sound...you would have read all the views here and it's mostly a no to the upgrade. But, this thread was a validation for your already made up mind to go ahead with the S22U. Comrade...don't sweat it...if your heart says goes for it..and you have the means for it...go ahead enjoy! As @enigmaamit said here... life's short..enjoy it to the fullest...Go ahead...take the leap of faith...
I am definitely looking forward to the S-Pen being built in. I do a lot of photo editing using my fat fingers so having the pressure-sensitive pen will save me a lot of "undo/redo" time.
The latest "leaked images" show the screen flatter without the curved edges and I like that clean look. I can upgrade for free with my network so I am ready to leap!
Fellow readers,
Which Is your opinion , since now days s21 ultra and s22 plus have the same price which you believe is better option?
S21u for cameras
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S21u for cameras
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Except the zoom I have the impression that s22 has better cameras overall.
Tested s21u and s22u, didnt find a big differences when looked on photos in devices. So S22plus cant replace s21u in photo quality, another minus is battery, 5000mah is best Choice when you dont want charge phone every 15h with a moderate usage.
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Fellow readers,
Which Is your opinion , since now days s21 ultra and s22 plus have the same price which you believe is better option?
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S22Ultra for sûre, but.... is mi opinion...i have the 2, s21ultra S22Ultra
I'm between s21 ultra and s22+ ,
I don't like edge display of 22 ultra
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Except the zoom I have the impression that s22 has better cameras overall.
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The S21 Ultra has better overall cameras than the S22 base/plus. Also the ultra wide has autofocus and can do macro and a better front camera. If you main focus is on the cameras, the S21 Ultra is the way to go.
Can't live with the 1080p resolution on the plus phones vs 2k on the ultras
Since the camera is what most of you are considering in this thread, I'll add something of my own. As a photographer I like the S21 much better than the S22, but if you are not a professional photographer you won't find any difference and you might even like the S22 much better. Plus, the price of the S21 is much lower.
The only problem I encountered while using the S21 is the lack of understanding of how to take a screenshot, because for some unknown reason the keys on this smartphone model is different from the keys on other models of Samsung smartphones. Fortunately, my friend recommended me to pay attention to this article on how to screenshot on s21 fe https://thecelldesk.com/how-to-capture-screenshot-samsung-galaxy-s21-fe-5g-methods/.
I decided to take this advice and did not regret it, because this guide was very detailed and I quickly managed to understand how to make screenshots on S21 FE.
DrGreem said:
Fellow readers,
Which Is your opinion , since now days s21 ultra and s22 plus have the same price which you believe is better option?
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They really don't compare very well. The S21 Ultra is larger with a bigger display, 1440 x 3200 pixels, 1080 x 2340 on the S22 +, Internal Memory, 512GB w/16GB Ram, 256GB w/8GB Ram on the S22+, 108MP Main Cam Senor 50MP on the S22+, 5000 mAh Battery 4800 on the S22+, Android 11 is more trouble free compared to Android 12. For the same price, S21 Ultra hands down, it's not even close.