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Hello everyone, I am very interested in buying this tablet because of the win 8.1+Android boot BUT I have read mixed reviews that some come ok while others come with problems. I personally don't want to deal with broken youtube, play store and etc.
Is there like a stock android ROM for this? Will flashing a new ROM damage the windows in the Tablet? Is it fairly straightfoward like a normal android tablet? Any tips, opinions, reviews and etc. Are greatly appreciated.
I have purchased this tablet and using it for a few weeks now. Dual boot Air II (not the 3G as I've seen videos on youtube showing that they are slower than the Air II). When I first got it, the play store wasn't working, however, when I updated the software through Teclast's update app (all in chinese) it work.
I haven't had any problems with it so far, everything is working fine. I've tried some very heavy games without any lag. It just lowers the brightness if it gets to hot. Also another note, I hated their UI, I think they tried to copy iOS. So I just downloaded a custom launcher and fixed the problem.
Based from my own experience I would recommend this tablet. I also bought it for the dual boot capabilities. (came pre-installed with dual boot windows 8.1 + android 4.4.4)
im quite frustrated with mine...here are the reasons.
windows runs very well. would be great apart from the fact that the battery wont get me through a whole day of fair use. also, wifi seems to drop sometimes.
android runs SLOW. launcher stuff is a bit laggy. it has to pause to think quite often. and wifi, again seems very spotty - stops working for 30 seconds randomly - frustrating.
also....with regards putting different roms on, etc - there is less knowledge out there about the Air ii - most of the posts are relevant to the 3g model so finding solid information about the Air ii is difficult. I cant recommend at this stage...
in regards to the wifi, try turning off wifi optimization in the settings
it seemed to work better on mine after I turned it off.
buddy,
how's the battery life?
any cons now???
Got the Teclast X98 Air 2 HG8N a few days ago from TinyDeal. Arrived with dual boot 4.4/8.1, both in Chinese. Had to change to English, get online and ran OTA/Windows updates. No issues with camera orientation or Google Play. So far, very nice tablet. The Windows experience is odd. I want to swipe a lot for navigation since I've owned a few iOS/Android tablets before. Taking some getting used to actually using scrollbars again. Also found out that some sites and programs really are not designed for such a relatively small screen. Options are very small and hard to hit correctly with a finger. Stylus helps, but still tricky occasionally. I would recommend it with the caveats that it will not be in English, Android has a lot of crapware, and Windows can be tricky. I would like to install W10 and custom ROM but still trying to get a handle on the process for this model. Similar model threads are hundreds of pages, and may not be entirely compatible with this one.
Editing my post after getting a few more days hands on with this one. Initially there was a lot of focus on setup, config, tweaking, it was my new toy. Got it to a comfortable, useable state and now down to actual usage. The screen is gorgeous, that part still holds very true. The battery life is terrible. Android seems better than Windows, but I haven't done any benchmarking or close examination. It looks like for Android at least, the OS itself is consuming the most battery. I haven't gotten a single day of usage without stopping to charge at least once. I pretty much just keep it plugged up unless I walk outside with it for a bit. Right now focusing on how I can replace the pre-installed OS's and see if that will be any better. I have years of experience in IT, but not in an area like this so it is slow going for the moment. I'd recommend this still, but be prepared to tinker a long time. If you want an out of the box experience ready to go then this is not a good choice at all.
I have had my airII 3g since about february 2015. I still like it. screen is great - usually have the brightness turned right down to low as I use it indoors. have used both windows and android and it works well. I prefer to use android, windows buttons can be small to try and touch. Main use for mine is just facebook and internet browsing, and reading books, I did take it on a couple 8 hour flights and watched downloaded videos in windows and it was awesome. Speakers could be a bit louder. Once I rooted it and removed chinese android seems to run way better, battery life is good in my opinion but I guess im not a heavy user. I do have wifi drops in android although I recently downloaded wififix from playstore and it seems to be a lot better. Also after rooting i have found I rarely get the thermal brightness throttling message - cant remember last time I saw it. Tablet seems well made and has a bit of weight to it, I have mine in a Ipad air case which is good, its just the camera holes dont match. The 2.5amp charger that comes with it would be the minimum I would want to charge it with, my kids have teclast x80h with 2amp charger and its too small. I think there is also an issue when having bluetooth on for my headphone and using the wifi at same time can cause wifi to be slow. either way I am happy with purchase, knowing that at the end of the day it is a chinese tablet and would require tinkering with and maybe some issues, but its great specs for the money. I dont use 3g on it, i mainly only bought it as it was 64gig model.
It is a great device
i have the air ii hg9m and i would only recommend this to someone who is comfortable troubleshooting and fixing small issues as these chinese tablets are plagued with them, fortunately theres tons of support from this site with lots of cool people fixing any issue that might arise, as for mine (the newest air ii at the time of this hg9m) ive only had minor issues, like choppy 3d games in android, standby battery drain in windows, some overheating, slow charging and battery calibration issues, and no ota updates in android. but the basic functionality of the device has remained in tact. Thats also a huge advantage of dual os, if im having an issue with one os i can try the other to do what i want. If youre truly looking for a trouble free experience then apple is the way to go, imo they are your best bet at a good 100% trouble free experience, but you pay a lot for those odds.
Stylus?
arcanadei said:
Taking some getting used to actually using scrollbars again. Also found out that some sites and programs really are not designed for such a relatively small screen. Options are very small and hard to hit correctly with a finger. Stylus helps, but still tricky occasionally. I would recommend it with the caveats that it will not be in English, Android has a lot of crapware, and Windows can be tricky. I would like to install W10 and custom ROM but still trying to get a handle on the process for this model. Similar model threads are hundreds of pages, and may not be entirely compatible with this one.
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Would you mind sharing what stylus are you using that works with this tablet? I have not found one that works.
Thanks!
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Would you mind sharing what stylus are you using that works with this tablet?
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Couple of little generics I had laying around but both had a metal mesh tip. The rubber tips didn't work for me on this one either.
Hey folks, I am Canadian that is looking to possibly import an MI5 but I figured I should find out a few things from you all that have been living with these phones for a while before buying.
Are there any hardware or software issues with the MI5 that I should be concerned about? I have a sony z3 compact right now and it's been infamous for vibration motors, headphone jacks, and screen failures. It also has no AOSP based daily drivers.
Development seems to be pretty active here, is that actually true? Are developers dropping off from this phone or is there still a steady amount of work being done?
From the lurking I've done it seems that unlocking, rooting and ROM installing is pretty easy. Are there any permanent dangers to doing these hacks (above and beyond the usual)?
I'm aware there is some camera quality issues on non-stock ROMs, is the camera still usable? How is the battery on custom ROMs?
Is there anything preventing this phone from being a daily driver when using a custom ROM like RR? Does the fingerprint sensor work on AOSP ROMs?
I am also aware of the radio bands the MI5 supports, I should be fine with that as my imported Z3 Compact has the same bands (as far as I can tell).
Edit: I was also wondering if the IR blaster works on custom ROMs!
Thanks for reading, answering and putting up with my ignorance. I'm just looking for some answers I couldn't find on this forum when I was searching yesterday.
Community is happy to help
1. Hardware wise you have to keep in mind the phone is fairly fragile. Low light performance of the camera is a bit poor. Audio out of the headphone jack isn't great on stock MIUI, but that can be fixed with Viper4Arise or any AOSP ROM. RAM management and general performance on MIUI is "ok" - but the phone is blazing fast on AOSP + CAF. There is no component that is prone to fail that I am aware of, but I have read of the occasional hard-brick triggered from nothing more than a reboot on custom ROMs - this can be solved by flashing stock ROM in EDL mode.
2. There seems to be a steady amount of development going on - we just got the drop on about 7 new ROMs in the last month. However, there are and have been developers leaving in favour of the One Plus 3, and development is only moderate compared to its forum.
3. It's fairly easy, but a bit frustrating getting the bootloader unlock from Xiaomi, as it usually takes about 5 days for the unlock to be approved and then 5 more days for it to actually work. There is also a possible driver issue on Windows which can prevent unlocking, so if you're stuck that's probably the case. Except for the above mentioned possible hard-brick there are no additional dangers, and dare I say less so than other phones I worked on.
4. The camera is usable on custom ROMs but considerably worse. Mainly there is a lot more noise in the photos, but detail remains high. Video recording seems to be broken on most AOSP ROMs, but alternative camera apps are apparently a work around. In my experience battery life is better on custom ROMs as they have functional Doze on Nougat, but not by much.
5. Fingerprint sensor works fine on custom ROMs, even better if you consider that you can wake + unlock your phone without pressing the button. There have been reports of some people experiencing slow fingerprint scanning on custom ROMs (3-4s). I use a custom ROM as my DD and I don't have any major issues except video recording that I haven't yet bothered to address.
I hope that this information finds you well. The Mi5 isn't perfect, but I'd be damned to say that a better phone exists for $200. The camera, battery life, performance, screen, audio, and design is good and there really isn't much to worry about.
xdadevet said:
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1. Hardware wise you have to keep in mind the phone is fairly fragile. Low light performance of the camera is a bit poor. Audio out of the headphone jack isn't great on stock MIUI, but that can be fixed with Viper4Arise or any AOSP ROM. RAM management and general performance on MIUI is "ok" - but the phone is blazing fast on AOSP + CAF. There is no component that is prone to fail that I am aware of, but I have read of the occasional hard-brick triggered from nothing more than a reboot on custom ROMs - this can be solved by flashing stock ROM in EDL mode.
2. There seems to be a steady amount of development going on - we just got the drop on about 7 new ROMs in the last month. However, there are and have been developers leaving in favour of the One Plus 3, and development is only moderate compared to its forum.
3. It's fairly easy, but a bit frustrating getting the bootloader unlock from Xiaomi, as it usually takes about 5 days for the unlock to be approved and then 5 more days for it to actually work. There is also a possible driver issue on Windows which can prevent unlocking, so if you're stuck that's probably the case. Except for the above mentioned possible hard-brick there are no additional dangers, and dare I say less so than other phones I worked on.
4. The camera is usable on custom ROMs but considerably worse. Mainly there is a lot more noise in the photos, but detail remains high. Video recording seems to be broken on most AOSP ROMs, but alternative camera apps are apparently a work around. In my experience battery life is better on custom ROMs as they have functional Doze on Nougat, but not by much.
5. Fingerprint sensor works fine on custom ROMs, even better if you consider that you can wake + unlock your phone without pressing the button. There have been reports of some people experiencing slow fingerprint scanning on custom ROMs (3-4s). I use a custom ROM as my DD and I don't have any major issues except video recording that I haven't yet bothered to address.
I hope that this information finds you well. The Mi5 isn't perfect, but I'd be damned to say that a better phone exists for $200. The camera, battery life, performance, screen, audio, and design is good and there really isn't much to worry about.
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Thank you so much for the detailed response! Greatly appreciated!
This all is reminding me of the fun I had with AOSP ROMs back on my Galaxy SIII, happy thoughts! (I've been stuck in Sony's software for too long!)
What is CAF?
Is the IR blaster working in AOSP-based ROMs?
TheHow7zer said:
Thank you so much for the detailed response! Greatly appreciated!
This all is reminding me of the fun I had with AOSP ROMs back on my Galaxy SIII, happy thoughts! (I've been stuck in Sony's software for too long!)
What is CAF?
Is the IR blaster working in AOSP-based ROMs?
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It's a pleasure
Well then it's good to know they run brilliantly on the Mi5 (buttery smooth UI, and I get good numbers on benchmarks as testament, see attached pics).
CAF is short for Code Aurora Forums, a collection of companies that merge their updated driver code with the vanilla AOSP code from Google.
I don't know if the IR blaster works on AOSP as I currently don't have any devices on me to test it with. I could try this weekend when I get home.
Edit: I've since arrived home and can confirm the IR blaster works on AOSP. I used Anymote if you're interested.
Hi everyone!
Potential future P30 Pro owner here, but I have a few questions about the device. I actually already posted this in the "Help (noob friendly)" thread, but it seems no one is visiting it anymore...
I come from Xperia devices (Z, then XZ) and I am looking to upgrade soon. As a matter of fact, I tried out a Mate 10 Pro a few months ago and got really interested in Huawei ever since.
However, when I tried it, a couple of things that I guess I expected to be on every android phone simply weren't there, so here are my questions:
On the Mate 10 Pro, it was impossible to do the following on the lockscreen:
- Expand notifications to interact with them (such as viewing and replying to a sms/whatsapp, preview an email and delete/archive/reply, etc),
- Switch from ring/vibrate/do not disturb using the volume button,
- Display shortcuts to settings, wifi, flashlight, etc.
All of this is possible on my XZ and they are very handy features that I would really like to have on my next phone. Was this only Mate 10 stuff, or is that part of the EMUI design?
When I am reading articles or watching review videos, I don't seem to find anyone talking about this, it mostly is about camera and hardware.
On another note, the reason why I returned the Mate 10 was because once paired with my car via bluetooth, the sound when listening to music was crackling and crippled, which definitely ruined the experience. Not related to the app or the car, I tried many different options but it never worked properly. Found out later that it was a rather common issue with this phone at the time (perhaps updates have solved that since.) Anyone can say if this is an issue with the P30 pro or share their experience?
Thank you all for your time and help!
Hi there all, I'm a decently smart man and have tried just about everything I understand how to do to get my wife's camera back up and working correctly b the app is laggy AF when launching. Installed 3rd party camera and even the newest gcam port. No matter what one I use the app loads but the camera doesn't become usable for 20-30 seconds after. I've tried clearing the data and cache of app. I cleared cache partition. Factory reset and even tried using Google lens. Once the camera is up and running it's a decent photo taking device but truly when it was on Oreo everything was fine. Still soft and not perfect compared to iPhone and pixel but for what it is the v40 had shot decent photos. I don't know how to unlock bootloader and install a KDZ or TAR file if that's something I'll be needing to do.
I've searched reddit and XDA most say everything I've tried and most have worked for others sadly not my case. Thanks in advance for all help here.
I know LG bridge is a think just don't know if I can down grade the OS via that way. Long post sorry
You have to understand that an android operating system update by a manufacturer is **** and slows down performance or break the features. If your phone came in on android 8 then dont go to 9 as youll notice its slower, android 9 is smooth but the real test is when your using browsers and apps like games,facebook etc. Ive owned many types of android from BLU Studio, Samsung, LG, Acetel, and they are **** when going past the OS it came in on first day release.
In terms of downgrading the new LG UP is safe to try KDZ downgrade as if it detects a higher antirollback it will alert you and stop.
Yesterday(9/16-2020) my phone got the android 10 update. How is it in the europe? Any updates in any country?
In the offic Forum the rollout seems to be in Italia, Sweden, Belgium, Germany, Romania, Poland... right now.
But it seems only the retail one but not the Amazon Alexa one.....
I have the reteu version of motorola one zoom. So I don't think that it's only the retail
Reteu is the "normal" parker/zoom version.
(AMZEU)Reteu with release channel AMZEU is the Amazon Alexa Motorola one Zoom Edition.
Just got it in the UK on my amazon alexa device
Motorola One Zoom unusable after Android 10 update
Hi,
I got the official upgrade to Android 10 for the Motorola One Zoom yesterday (Sep. 16, 2020) as well.
I am based out of Switzerland.
For the time being, I strongly recommend NOT to install it.
It broke several things, which makes the phone virtually unusable.
1. Several apps crash almost immediately after starting, including basic functions like Phone (yes, the phone itself, so you cannot place or receive calls), Contacts, parts of the Settings function, Google Play or WhatsApp.
2. Battery drain in stand-by is now between 5 and 10% per 10 minutes. In a couple of hours may the phone is dead. There is only a minor improvement in switching to battery saving mode. If you actually use the phone it drains much faster
3. Bluetooth disconnects every 5-10 seconds. You cannot use any BT earpiece, headset or hands free. BTW, this means the Swiss COVID app, which uses BT to track possible contacts with infected people, is not working either
I had to bring back from the dead an old phone and put it back to work, as the One Zoom is unusable for the time being.
Again, I hope other One Zoom owners will be luckier with Android 10.
Please share you experience....
PS. My One Zoom is an XT-2010-1 and Android 10 build number is QPH30.29-Q3-28-13
fromi2ch59 said:
Hi,
I got the official upgrade to Android 10 for the Motorola One Zoom yesterday (Sep. 16, 2020) as well.
I am based out of Switzerland.
For the time being, I strongly recommend NOT to install it.
PS. My One Zoom is an XT-2010-1 and Android 10 build number is QPH30.29-Q3-28-13
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I received Android 10 in Czech Republic yesterday. It is as stable as it was with Android 9. Battery life is excellent. I don't experience and noticeable standby drain. There is definitely something wrong about your device. I hope they will resolve it with another update.
Overall my Moto Zoom is the most stable phone I've ever had. I believe there are many satisfied used of this phone. But people usually don't post positive feedback.
If anyone reading this from Moto, thank you for this phone. I really enjoy it. I don't even care it was on Android 9 until yesterday as long as it worked fast and stable. Newest software is not always the best software.
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I received Android 10 in Czech Republic yesterday. It is as stable as it was with Android 9. Battery life is excellent. I don't experience and noticeable standby drain. There is definitely something wrong about your device. I hope they will resolve it with another update.
Overall my Moto Zoom is the most stable phone I've ever had. I believe there are many satisfied used of this phone. But people usually don't post positive feedback.
If anyone reading this from Moto, thank you for this phone. I really enjoy it. I don't even care it was on Android 9 until yesterday as long as it worked fast and stable. Newest software is not always the best software.
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I confirm it's a great phone, and I was a delighted Moto One Zoom owner and user, up until the Android 10 upgrade yesterday.
The experience has shaken my enthusiasm and confidence quite a bit, and as a further confirmation that Murphy's Law is still valid, this happened when I most needed the phone to work for professional reasons and caused major disruptions in my activities.
Separately, can you please share your model number and build as well?
It may help me focus my efforts to get the issue fixed with Motorola support.
Thx
Had the update, UK Amazon Alexa edition. So far no probs, no crashes or anything bad to report.
Sadly still no WiFi calling, which is pretty pathetic.
Working good till now
Hi there,
Yesterday I have received the Android 10, I have the Amazon Alexa version, bought from Amazon Italy. Till now is working good, just a little hotter when fast charging.
fromi2ch59 said:
hi,
i got the official upgrade to android 10 for the motorola one zoom yesterday (sep. 16, 2020) as well.
I am based out of switzerland.
For the time being, i strongly recommend not to install it.
It broke several things, which makes the phone virtually unusable.
1. Several apps crash almost immediately after starting, including basic functions like phone (yes, the phone itself, so you cannot place or receive calls), contacts, parts of the settings function, google play or whatsapp.
2. Battery drain in stand-by is now between 5 and 10% per 10 minutes. In a couple of hours may the phone is dead. There is only a minor improvement in switching to battery saving mode. If you actually use the phone it drains much faster
3. Bluetooth disconnects every 5-10 seconds. You cannot use any bt earpiece, headset or hands free. Btw, this means the swiss covid app, which uses bt to track possible contacts with infected people, is not working either
i had to bring back from the dead an old phone and put it back to work, as the one zoom is unusable for the time being.
Again, i hope other one zoom owners will be luckier with android 10.
Please share you experience....
Ps. My one zoom is an xt-2010-1 and android 10 build number is qph30.29-q3-28-13
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坐标：中国
版本：亚马逊官网购买的德国亚马逊版
昨天早上接收到推送，安卓9升级安卓10，还很兴奋。
升级完成后可以上网，但是无法接打电话，朋友用微信告诉我才知道。
我使用的是中国电信，支持cdma，4g，lte，现在感觉很闹心。
请问你的问题解决了吗？