Android mobile with VPM won't cast to chromecast... - Google Chromecast

Hi all,
I have an issue in that I'm trying to cast from my android mobile to my Chromecast. It won't let me though as I have a VPM on my mobile phone.
I have searched the net and read that I need to buy a VPM router to plug into the back of my existing router and then link Chromecast to that. Before I spend all that money and spend time doing that I wondered what every one thought to that idea?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Nick

nickbeachy23 said:
Hi all,
I have an issue in that I'm trying to cast from my android mobile to my Chromecast. It won't let me though as I have a VPM on my mobile phone.
I have searched the net and read that I need to buy a VPM router to plug into the back of my existing router and then link Chromecast to that. Before I spend all that money and spend time doing that I wondered what every one thought to that idea?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Nick
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I presume that you mean "VPN" (as in Virtual Private Network).
Yeah, understandable that it won't work since the two devices would need to be connected to the *same* network, and the VPN is likely setting your default route through the VPN network, making it effectively impossible for your phone to connect to your chromecast.
It should be possible to block off local address space in your VPN's configuration. This would allow the phone to communicate with the chromecast on the local network. HOWEVER, depending on what exactly you are "casting", there could be other issues triggered by the fact that the phone and chromecast have separate public IP addresses. For example, trying to cast something like turdflix or amazon subprime would probably fail authentication.
Yes, moving your VPN from the phone to the router would solve the problem. Look at running openwrt on your router, or buying a router that can run it. Openwrt can run openvpn or other vpn software. You'll probably want a fairly powerful router with an ARM chip rather than MIPS for handling the cryptography.
Don't buy any BS "vpn router". They're universally trash.

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Using Chromecast in a hotel

I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
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I travel for a living and live about 1/2 of the year in a Marriott.. Here are a few options that I use.
1. Bring a small travel router - this really isn't as bad as it sounds. Is really easy and they make very small ones. Here is what I use: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-MR3020
2. Connect your laptop via ethernet and use windows to share it via wifi. - This works, but it can be a pain. Some VPN clients really don't like this however.
3. Use a MiFi or Cell Phone in Hotspot mode.
I will either do #1 or 3 depending on the hotel and if I am in the US or not.
Hope this helps...
Worse comes to worse you could always use a phone or tablet as a hotspot!
pentafive said:
I travel for a living and live about 1/2 of the year in a Marriott.. Here are a few options that I use.
1. Bring a small travel router - this really isn't as bad as it sounds. Is really easy and they make very small ones. Here is what I use:
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2. Connect your laptop via ethernet and use windows to share it via wifi. - This works, but it can be a pain. Some VPN clients really don't like this however.
3. Use a MiFi or Cell Phone in Hotspot mode.
I will either do #1 or 3 depending on the hotel and if I am in the US or not.
Hope this helps...
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Thanks for the help! I have Pdanet installed on my gs3, but I haven't been able to set up the Chromecast without a third device in the mix. Using my work laptop is out of the question since I can't install the Chromecast app on it. I don't like to bring my personal laptop along with me on business trips since it's kind of bulky and heavy for a 2 night trip. I have an old Android tablet I can bring along with me to set everything up and control the Chromecast from but it would be awesome if I can get it working with ONLY the gs3 and Chromecast. Is there some way to make that happen? Or will I need a third device in the mix because the gs3 cant be a hotspot and controller at the same time?
I have this same question. I read on the developer site that wireless isolation must be disabled in order to use the chromecast. This could be a problem since most public WiFi has this feature enabled (and if they don't they should!). I have a chromecast, a tablet, and an android phone so if the hotel WiFi doesn't work I can always hotspot with phone and control with tablet. However, this is not ideal since I don't have unlimited data plan. It will be interesting to see how much data the various apps' use. I have 3 trips planned the next 3 weeks and will see how it goes!
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thenoname said:
Thanks for the help! I have Pdanet installed on my gs3, but I haven't been able to set up the Chromecast without a third device in the mix. Using my work laptop is out of the question since I can't install the Chromecast app on it. I don't like to bring my personal laptop along with me on business trips since it's kind of bulky and heavy for a 2 night trip. I have an old Android tablet I can bring along with me to set everything up and control the Chromecast from but it would be awesome if I can get it working with ONLY the gs3 and Chromecast. Is there some way to make that happen? Or will I need a third device in the mix because the gs3 cant be a hotspot and controller at the same time?
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A computer with wifi (a computer just jacked into a router in wont work) is a necessary part of setting up chromecast to a new network.
edit: actually i might be wrong on that, testing something now
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Okay, this is what I just did.
I turned Wireless Tether on my phone on. This means wifi can't be on at all and thus your phone can't be on the same network as the chromecast, and won't be able to control chomecast.
BUT
I downloaded the Chromecast app from the playstore to my Nook HD+. It found the Chromecast on my home network and I tapped on it, and saw my Chromecast on my home network (which the nook was also on). I was able to change it from my home network to my phone. This changed the network both my Nook and Chromecast were connected to from my home network to my phone network. I just chromecasted netflix from my Nook to my TV via chromecast fine. So basically I was able to set it up on a new network with no need for a computer.
So if you are traveling, I believe you are going to need to set up your Chromecast to know your phone's wifi network/password before you go. Why? Because my Nook (or your tablet) can't change the network of the Chromecast without already being on the same network. But at this point, I could now take the three devices anywhere now, plugging chromecast into a TV, setting up my phone to tether, and using my tablet to control it.
Annoyingly, once I turned off tethering, the chromecast borked and I had to re-run setup to get it back on my home wireless network. So, it doesn't seem to save multiple networks, unless I did something wrong.
thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
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HERE IS HOW WITHOUT ANY APPLICATION;
do this first:
http://4sysops.com/archives/how-to-share-wi-fi-in-windows-8-with-internet-connection-sharing-ics/
or this:
http://virtualrouterplus.com/
and for enabling Universal Plug and Play:
http://mywindows8.org/how-to-use-dlna-server-in-windows-8/
cabbieBot said:
So if you are traveling, I believe you are going to need to set up your Chromecast to know your phone's wifi network/password before you go. Why? Because my Nook (or your tablet) can't change the network of the Chromecast without already being on the same network. But at this point, I could now take the three devices anywhere now, plugging chromecast into a TV, setting up my phone to tether, and using my tablet to control it.
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If needed you could always factory reset your Chromecast by holding down the button for 25 seconds. If you do that, you can set it up from the Chromecast app on your nook and set it to your phone's hotspot.
legendnexus said:
HERE IS HOW WITHOUT ANY APPLICATION;
do this first:
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or this:
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and for enabling Universal Plug and Play:
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Thanks for the suggestions! The only issue is that I can't install anything on my work laptop. I appreciate the help though =)
You wouldn't want to connect a chrome cast to public wifi anyways. Then the guy in the room next door could mess with your playback. Travel Router/Hotspot are your best bets (plus being on your own network is a better idea for privacy and security anyways).
thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
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I work for a WiFi company and we manage the WiFi for dozens of hotel chains throughout the nation. If you contact the technical support number provided by the hotel they can "Bypass" your Chromecast. All they would need is the IP address or MAC address of your Chromecast, we'll locate it in the DHCP pool and then whitelist it. This will cause it to bypass the login page.
Vandam500 said:
I work for a WiFi company and we manage the WiFi for dozens of hotel chains throughout the nation. If you contact the technical support number provided by the hotel they can "Bypass" your Chromecast. All they would need is the IP address or MAC address of your Chromecast, we'll locate it in the DHCP pool and then whitelist it. This will cause it to bypass the login page.
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I am pleasantly surprised that they would be willing to do that. I figured anything that could possibly take away from the built in pay for viewing content would not be allowed. The other problem though is Wireless Isolation; it disables wireless clients from being to able to see/talk to each other on the wireless network. This is a problem for chromecast since the "casting" device must be able to talk to the chromecast in order to cast content to it. Do you know how widely used the wireless isolation feature is in the hotel biz? Also if it is enabled is there a way to whitelist the chromecast and casting device so that they would see each other on the hotel's wireless network?
crc301 said:
I am pleasantly surprised that they would be willing to do that. I figured anything that could possibly take away from the built in pay for viewing content would not be allowed. The other problem though is Wireless Isolation; it disables wireless clients from being to able to see/talk to each other on the wireless network. This is a problem for chromecast since the "casting" device must be able to talk to the chromecast in order to cast content to it. Do you know how widely used the wireless isolation feature is in the hotel biz? Also if it is enabled is there a way to whitelist the chromecast and casting device so that they would see each other on the hotel's wireless network?
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Ah yeah, forgot about the isolation. Most of our configs are set to not allow wireless devices to allow any type of communication with other devices (Allow traffic between wireless clients)
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Ah yeah, forgot about the isolation. Most of our configs are set to not allow wireless devices to allow any type of communication with other devices (Allow traffic between wireless clients)
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I'd say ask to speak with a Tier2 and explain the whole situation. They may very well disable the isolation for at least that one night if you get lucky. This is all if you visit one of the locations that we manage. Not sure about other companies.
I suppose you could plug a computer into the hotel's hardwire Internet and enable wireless Internet Connection Sharing rather than bringing a router, if you will already be bringing a computer anyway.
thenoname said:
Thanks for the suggestions! The only issue is that I can't install anything on my work laptop. I appreciate the help though =)
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actually there is no need of program on the first linkk
on the second link someone pretty much write a code for the steps on the first link
MAC spoofing
I was wondering if this would work.
If I were to spoof the MAC of the chromecast on my cell phone, connect to the hotel wireless, sign in through the gateway, then un-spoof my MAC and connect again with my real MAC. Wouldn't the gateway whitelist both MACs?
Depends if it is whitelisting off MAC or off IP. Either way, you still have wireless isolation problem. There would need to be some type of cloud based controller built-in to chromecast that could forward commands between chromecast and client(s).
Google...if your listening please develop chromecast cloud controller. That would be awesome
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Just to update the thread with what I ended up doing. I bought the following travel router off of amazon and it seems to work great! Just in case anyone is looking for one, this one is pretty good. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-SharePort-Companion-DIR-505L/dp/B009LENJ90/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Here is another thread with a similar discussion
thenoname said:
Just to update the thread with what I ended up doing. I bought the following travel router off of amazon and it seems to work great! Just in case anyone is looking for one, this one is pretty good. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-SharePort-Companion-DIR-505L/dp/B009LENJ90/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
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Do these things need a wired connection? Those are becoming rare in hotels. Is there a product that creates a personal wifi network, while getting internet from public wifi?

802.1x

Why Google you no like college students?
Hmmm this probably raises a good point, it's a bit hard to implement something like 802.1x though on a streamer device (where authentication is required per login of network prior to you having the ability to control the device).
I don't see this coming for awhile to be honest unless someone manages to hack it in - I just can't see Google releasing the ability to cache 802.1x network credential sets unfortunately due to the security implications.
Friend of mine had to buy his own router to plug in to the colleges ethernet ports in the dorm. Solved a variety of issues they were having.
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fchowd0696 said:
Why Google you no like college students?
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Beyond the lack of keyboard/interface, large networks in general fear multicast and UPnP because they have potential to easily clog the network.
Also remember that Chromecast in its current state has little security - it's designed for use within a trusted environment.
You probably don't want to be in the middle of Twilight with your girlfriend and suddenly your Chromecast switches over to SpongeBob SquarePants because someone else in the dorm decided BobsChromecast obviously wants to show SpongeBob...
Having your own router and local network will isolate your Chromecast to just your little piece of the campus network, though double-NAT might be an issue, and you should check with campus policy on use of personal WiFi router/AP hardware.
I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
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ninepoint said:
I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
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First question is whether you can use a different DNS at all (or whether your ISP is blocking somehow).
Try doing a DNS lookup from another server on your phone/tablet via Ping & DNS or another app that lets you do that.
If that's successful, then it might work - go to the Eureka-ROM web panel at http://Chromecast_IP_addresss/ and turn off DHCP-supplied DNS, Apply, then select another DNS.
You will also need to force your phone/tablet to use the same DNS - otherwise your phone/tablet may be making requests from Mars, while Chromecast tries to retrieve stuff from Venus.

[Q] isp issues

So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Jared
theatomizer90 said:
So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
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How do they know what device has what MAC? The only thing I can think of is they're doing some blanket blocking by vendor ID (which is part of the MAC)
Chromecast's vendor is Azurewave, so if they're blanket blocking devices that use Azurewave hardware, that's a LOT of devices.
More likely they're tracking and blocking unknown MAC addresses.
They could also be blocking streaming traffic, but Chromecast should at least be able to reach the Internet.
Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.
Can I ask whats your location what country??
Asphyx said:
Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.
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@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?
bhiga said:
@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?
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I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
Truth is I would tell the ISP to GFT and stop blocking things I pay them to provide.
I bet there is not a single mention of blocked media devices in the contract which means they are essentially in breach for not providing Internet access.
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I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
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If the PC is wired, it wouldn't connect to the building wireless...
but that brings up a good point - @theatomizer90 is there a wired Internet connection in your flat/whatever?
If so, you could just connect your own router and connect all your devices to that... The building's network wouldn't know about any of your individual devices unless it's very high end. It's the same as I do in hotels.
It wouldn't help if they're doing packet/traffic filtering though... again, same as hotels...
No hard line... such a bummer. I went and complained to the manager but I doubt anything will come of it.
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Krisshp said:
Can I ask whats your location what country??
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Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
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Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
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I get to play with enterprise-class routers from time to time and even they have limits. It depends on both the AP hardware (usually there is a maximum number of associated stations before things start going round-robin) and the router hardware itself as the overall traffic load increases.
Some folks in your situation (not specifically with Chromecast, but general connectivity challenges) have success using cantennas to use more-distant wireless, rather than their limited local infrastructure, but it really depends on the individual situation.
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Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
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Well one solution that would work is to get yourself a travel router...
(An example not a recommendation as I have not used it do some research before you pick one) http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-WL-330N3G-Wireless-N-Mobile-Router/dp/B004OT05LC
The easiest thing to do would be to spoof a wireless access point, there is all kinds of free software to do it. Connect tablet to Wi-Fi. Spoof a wireless ap. Connect cc to spoofed Wi-Fi.
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AT&T Uverse Chromecast Modem Settings

First of all if someone else asked about this I apologize, I searched and found nothing on the matter.
What I am trying to do is to bypass the Google DNS for the Chromecast. The RG for AT&T is a Motorola NVG589 Serial Number 255307917359184 Software Version 9.1.0h12d34 I do not want to use a VPN and I am not sure on using a dynamic DNS service. With the millions of people who use the lame AT&T I cannot believe that there is not a work around for the Chromecast. I do not have the money to use any services for this so if you want to say that $5 is cheap please. Try being disabled and living off that. All I want to do is make the Chromecast region free. Hola works on the PC but when you use Hola it is unable to cast the video. Don't really want to sit in front of the PC to watch a video, that's why I got a Chromecast. I have another router and have tried that but it is old and the range on it sucks. I don't have dd-wrt or tomato and according to some reading the old router I have is not flashable for that. I hate AT&T but where I live there are only two options for internet and I picked the lesser of the two evils. Really hoping Verizon FIOS comes to town but not holding my breath. Anyways back on point. Is there anyway to accomplish setting up the crap AT&T router to accomplish this? Thought about assigning the Chromecast a static IP but not sure what that would accomplish. Set up bridge mode for the CC? I just don't like paying for internet and have restrictions laid upon me. I pay for the service and it is supposed to be world wide, Says so in the address. Maybe turn my PC into a virtual router then connect that way? Any help would be appreciated.

Is it possible to remotely cast a chromecast from a different network for signage ?

I'm a beginner in ChromeCast development, I've searched for a long time to have an answer on the possibility to remotely access, control and cast a chromecast device for digital signage, in different networks.
While searching and understanding the mechanics of chromecast, the answer seems to be "No !" but I've found companies selling solutions that are doing a similar thing.
So if someone knows a way to do that please inform me. (Or if it's impossible to do that).
Thank you !
Set up a VPN and then you definitely can.
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Set up a VPN and then you definitely can.
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I already setup VPN (PPTP Server) on my Mikrotik Router, can ping that chromecast. But, how to connect to my chromecast, I can't see my chromecast on googlehome apps, since googlehome apps require wifi to connect chromecast.
Please somebody help me..
You will probably need to set up an mDNS forwarder or enable multicast forwarding so the app on the remote network can discover them.
Be careful as you can easily cause a loop.
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