I actually wanted to buy the Pixel 4a. Since that's not coming out soon enough for me, I am planning to buy this phone. Getting a very good price of $250 by exchanging my old OnePlus 3.
My biggest concern is the front camera quality. MKBHD said in his review that the front camera is straight-up garbage. Is that true even with the Google Camera mod for this device?
Also, are the AOSP ROMs for this phone good/stable enough to be used? I like the OOS and I'd absolutely prefer to use something closer to AOSP than MIUI. I see people around here rave about the performance, stability, features of custom ROMs but I also see people talk about bugs fairly regularly. I can do dirty flashes something like once a month and clean flashes can take me longer.
Would you recommend I buy this?
Hi.
Front camera with stock camera app is not so good, but it is also not a garbage as that MKBHD said. With GCam it is much much better.
AOSP roms are stable to use with this phone. Just there is not a real OOS ROM, there is GSI version, and it is not good, have some bugs.
Other aosp roms i have try and they are really good are ZenX OS my favourite for now, then aosip, project-404 , really good roms, without bugs at least at my phone.
But any way when you want to install a new rom, it is advice to instal clean with format data, etc, then when it is update you just dirty flash, except when developer said it is preferable to clean flash.
Definitely i recommend you to buy this phone, it is even much better then that pixel 4a you are waiting for.
Thank you for your response slavke1976. It's very helpful.
slavke1976 said:
Definitely i recommend you to buy this phone, it is even much better then that pixel 4a you are waiting for.
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Could you elaborate a little on why you said this? I was under the impression that Pixel 4a would definitely be a much superior phone. I think so because the google camera should definitely be miles ahead than the competition. And the phone would get much much better software support and for a longer time. And those two are the two things I am looking for on my little budget.
If you want phone with smaller screen, then wait pixel 4a. But in rest of things Mi9t pro is much better choice, as it has flagship processor. GCam is same good as stock pixel camera. you have lots of custom aosp roms to bring you same feelings as on pixel. software support it will be sure miui 12 and miui 13 official, but custom will be even more. Because mi9t pro is very popular device ( i write mi9t pro as i have such version, but k20pro it is same ) .
and finaly it is a question if pixel 4a will see day of light soon. i heard some words that new pixel 5 will have cheaper processor and it will be cheaper in price then pixel 4, so maybe that pixel 5 will be actually pixel 4a but with little higher price ( 500$ ) .
you can also wait new oneplus zero , it will be also good price.
I'm looking to upgrade to the Note 10 Pro from my Note 8 Pro.
One of the main reasons why i don't like running a custom ROM in my Begonia (Note 8 Pro) is the fact that i loose a bunch of Camera features and even the ability to use the macro lens.
The devs in the Begonia thread and us Beta testers have risked our devices and had spent an unreasonable amount of time on getting custom ROM's running and to make much of the features functional in that device. But i know since this one has a Snapdragon processor, much of the resources needed to port features from other devices to this is already there.
I know the advantages of running a custom ROM. But i would like it if someone explains to me what device-specific OEM features that you are not able to use once you flash a custom ROM in the Note 10 Pro?
Appreciate the feedback!
1) cRDroid (has Mi CAM too)
2) ArrowOS
3) DroidOnTime
what device-specific OEM features that you are not able to use once you flash a custom ROM in the Note 10 Pro?
Not sure, don't use too many frills that it has. For 1, I think the IR blaster might not work. Not sure though.
Helhound0 said:
I'm looking to upgrade to the Note 10 Pro from my Note 8 Pro.
One of the main reasons why i don't like running a custom ROM in my Begonia (Note 8 Pro) is the fact that i loose a bunch of Camera features and even the ability to use the macro lens.
The devs in the Begonia thread and us Beta testers have risked our devices and had spent an unreasonable amount of time on getting custom ROM's running and to make much of the features functional in that device. But i know since this one has a Snapdragon processor, much of the resources needed to port features from other devices to this is already there.
I know the advantages of running a custom ROM. But i would like it if someone explains to me what device-specific OEM features that you are not able to use once you flash a custom ROM in the Note 10 Pro?
Appreciate the feedback!
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In RN10Pro, I have tested stock rom and other AOSP based custom rom, i found MIUI camera app capabilities is missing feature in all other custom ROM, I missed turbo charging feature in some custom rom also.
LeDiable said:
1) cRDroid (has Mi CAM too)
2) ArrowOS
3) DroidOnTime
what device-specific OEM features that you are not able to use once you flash a custom ROM in the Note 10 Pro?
Not sure, don't use too many frills that it has. For 1, I think the IR blaster might not work. Not sure though.
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You can download Mi Remote controller app from Play Store for IR blaster and its working fine
Helhound0 said:
I know the advantages of running a custom ROM.
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Don't take adventure on your ass.
Indonesia ROM and you will be happy.
In terms of speed, smoothness and lack of problems, nothing beats this firmware.
And the camera is pretty good. Well, if it is infused correctly.
Good luck.
This is my first MIUI based phone and I bought it as a secondary device to only to flash a custom ROM.
I tried the latest Pixel Experience Plus (Aug 22 initial OSS build) and it I couldn't be happier (Well, maybe a bit if I could get a 108MP mode in GCam). The performance and battery life are fantastic. Not crash or moments of lag, stutters. So snappy, way better than MIUI.
GCam is working for Regular 12MP, wide angle, tele macro and portrait. The night shots are better than on stock. In case you need a 108MP mode, there is ANX camera. The quality might not match the stock 108MP, but it's a usable option. The selfies are also bright unlike GCam, though GCam has way more detail in the selfies than ANX or even stock.
I'm going to test Crdoid or dotOS soon to see what a degoogled experience is like, but I reckon it is going to be similar to PE+. PE+ has set a benchmark for me.
Also, a couple of bugs I've noticed on PE+ which might or might not stay with other ROMs is:
1. Auto brightness is a bit off and goes lower or higher than it should at times.
2. The front cam was crashing when I turned on face unlock. But because I prefer the fingerprint scanner, turned it off and no issues since then.
3. Features like AOD and Pocket mode have been known to be battery hogs, but I don't use them anyway.
Helhound0 said:
I'm looking to upgrade to the Note 10 Pro from my Note 8 Pro.
One of the main reasons why i don't like running a custom ROM in my Begonia (Note 8 Pro) is the fact that i loose a bunch of Camera features and even the ability to use the macro lens.
The devs in the Begonia thread and us Beta testers have risked our devices and had spent an unreasonable amount of time on getting custom ROM's running and to make much of the features functional in that device. But i know since this one has a Snapdragon processor, much of the resources needed to port features from other devices to this is already there.
I know the advantages of running a custom ROM. But i would like it if someone explains to me what device-specific OEM features that you are not able to use once you flash a custom ROM in the Note 10 Pro?
Appreciate the feedback!
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Give you some information. Xiaomi released A11 kernel for begonia a few days and camera problems (maybe) can be fixed, wait for next custom rom A11 based before get new rmn10p.
And custom use ANX and Gcam, some problems maybe same with other device not only rmn8p.
dnana9 said:
This is my first MIUI based phone and I bought it as a secondary device to only to flash a custom ROM.
I tried the latest Pixel Experience Plus (Aug 22 initial OSS build) and it I couldn't be happier (Well, maybe a bit if I could get a 108MP mode in GCam). The performance and battery life are fantastic. Not crash or moments of lag, stutters. So snappy, way better than MIUI.
GCam is working for Regular 12MP, wide angle, tele macro and portrait. The night shots are better than on stock. In case you need a 108MP mode, there is ANX camera. The quality might not match the stock 108MP, but it's a usable option. The selfies are also bright unlike GCam, though GCam has way more detail in the selfies than ANX or even stock.
I'm going to test Crdoid or dotOS soon to see what a degoogled experience is like, but I reckon it is going to be similar to PE+. PE+ has set a benchmark for me.
Also, a couple of bugs I've noticed on PE+ which might or might not stay with other ROMs is:
1. Auto brightness is a bit off and goes lower or higher than it should at times.
2. The front cam was crashing when I turned on face unlock. But because I prefer the fingerprint scanner, turned it off and no issues since then.
3. Features like AOD and Pocket mode have been known to be battery hogs, but I don't use them anyway.
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Test AOSPExtended it's the best ROM I have ever used with my Redmi Note 10 Pro!
lubo777 said:
Test AOSPExtended it's the best ROM I have ever used with my Redmi Note 10 Pro!
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Which camera app are you using?
kadimatr said:
Which camera app are you using?
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Right now I'm testing few different Camera apps, ANXCamera + many differenet GCam MODS.
I'm looking for the best GCam MOD ... I think that I have found it!
The ANX Camera quality is the same as the stock MIUI camera ... have made a lot of test of both and have to say that ANX isn't bad at all!
You can see all my test and findings in this GCam Mods for Redmi Note 10 Pro tread here.
lubo777 said:
Test AOSPExtended it's the best ROM I have ever used with my Redmi Note 10 Pro!
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I'm on it since yesterday
lubo777 said:
Right now I'm testing few different Camera apps, ANXCamera + many differenet GCam MODS.
I'm looking for the best GCam MOD ... I think that I have found it!
The ANX Camera quality is the same as the stock MIUI camera ... have made a lot of test of both and have to say that ANX isn't bad at all!
You can see all my test and findings in this GCam Mods for Redmi Note 10 Pro tread here.
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Thank you, i will try
I decided to buy the phone and see after reading all your thoughts. I specially want to see if the high refresh rate works well with an AOSP ROM too because that's one of the main parts of the phone that i want to take advantage of. And I would be happy as @dnana9 mentioned if there's options for me to take advantage of all the lenses. Lets see how it goes.
You won't regret it. I have been hopping from stock to Pixel Experience to Xiaomi.EU to AOSP Extended, and every ROM has minor quirks, but overall better than stock MIUI. And beteeen the 5-10 options you have, you should find the sweet spot.
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You won't regret it. I have been hopping from stock to Pixel Experience to Xiaomi.EU to AOSP Extended, and every ROM has minor quirks, but overall better than stock MIUI. And beteeen the 5-10 options you have, you should find the sweet spot.
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Haven't tested other AOSP ROMs than the AOSP Extended but have tested few MIUI based one and have to say that AOSP Extended is super truper fast!
I'm using the same ROM on my other phone Redmi Note 7 and the ROM there is also so fast and smooth as a pretty new car from Tesla ...
sarychev.rescue said:
Don't take adventure on your ass.
Indonesia ROM and you will be happy.
In terms of speed, smoothness and lack of problems, nothing beats this firmware.
And the camera is pretty good. Well, if it is infused correctly.
Good luck.
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....I also like the Indonesia ROM. But what do you mean "...if it is infused correctly..."
this has been made me very confused, in the other hand i thought GSI is cool and fresh looks (i sideloaded corvus GSI) but i need xiaomi's 48mp camera mode, and i heard GSI also have several bugs, can you recommend me a good GSI with good camera function but also has cool and fresh looks? and tell me which is better, GSI or MIUI?
I prefere android 13 hai, with some tweaks Is stabile and gcam make good photos. Obvious MIUI Is a Little bit smooth but no big differrences like old gsi
Has anyone worked out a method to android 13 on 1ii? Or have tried lineageos 20 or building aosp? I daily drive my 1ii atm and would like some opinions before I go down a rabbit hole with it.
i have tried AOSP one from sony on older devices. but not the lineageos. here what i know
the lineageos while good and keep improving. it have been officially state that sony feature like H.S GE. and other will not be ported. while someone in the forum make work around with Camera pro by modified it. it still older version and lack of new feature. in daily use it should be a good rom. with bright future and lasted android but. in gaming and photography use type. it a bad rom. with only basic camera app. and no gaming specific feature.
on other hand sony official AOSP rom is just... AOSP there no special app at all. it like running windows on gaming laptop but only with windows driver. it running fine, but no specific feature from the laptop like RGB/macro fan control or other feature from laptop can be used anymore.
if you really want to use android 13. and doesn't use xperia as professional gamer or photographer then use lineageos is not a bad idea WHOEVER. doing so meant bye bye display as sony display DRM lost forever even after restore back and lock the bootloader
on other hand if you use your xperia as gaming devices, or professional photographer then. DONT. android 12 already good, there no real reason to update to android 13. it not like android 4.4 to 5 or 11 to 12 the UI basically the same with little improvement.
TBH the only xperia is good from any competitor is the H.S control. there no phone that have this feature right now not even your iphone 14 pro max can be use while charging nonstop without sacrifice battery life. and without this xperia just normal high end devices with AOSP style and few nice gimmick
I have LineageOS 20 running on my Xperia 1ii for almost 2 monts now it works like a charm, I am only trying to pass CTS to be able to install mobile payment again, maybe locking the bootloader again (I do not need Root) will fix this but did not have time to explore.
See also: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...dx203-unofficial-20jan.4541067/#post-88454847