Question Chinese Dual Sim Version In Canada - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

I am really interested in getting the S21 Ultra but need a dual sim phone for my work number. Speaking with Samsung support, the only version of the S21 Ultra that is dual sim and has the Snapdragon 888 is the Chinese version. Looking online I can find some online that ship to Canada.
What should I know before buying a Chinese Samsung phone. I have read that I need to manually install google play services. Is there anything else?

It's the Sm-g9980. It's a snapdragon dual sim.
I have the note 20 equivalent. Biggest issue seems to be getting updates. We are the forgotten model. Still on android 10.

ekerbuddyeker said:
It's the Sm-g9980. It's a snapdragon dual sim.
I have the note 20 equivalent. Biggest issue seems to be getting updates. We are the forgotten model. Still on android 10.
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If I flash a different ROM, would I lose dual sim?

Go through the forums on note 20 ultra. I am sure you will find there's little or no option for that.

Samsung Pay might not work.

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Confused with the model numbers

Hi,
I want to buy international model of Samsung Note 8. Also, can anyone share like the cheapest deal for Note 8's international version. ebay or anything works with me as long as the source is reliable.
zaidbaby said:
Hi,
I want to buy international model of Samsung Note 8. Also, can anyone share like the cheapest deal for Note 8's international version. ebay or anything works with me as long as the source is reliable.
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N950F = International Version (EXYNOS)
N950U = US Version (SNAPDRAGON)
N950N = Korean Version (EXYNOS) 256GB
I do not reccomend buying from eBay unless its overseas. Lots of easy scams with eBay and Mobile phones
Mr.Ash.Man said:
N950F = International Version (EXYNOS)
N950U = US Version (SNAPDRAGON)
N950K = Korean Version (EXYNOS) 256GB
I do not reccomend buying from eBay unless its overseas. Lots of easy scams with eBay and Mobile phones
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There is no N950K, like the US variants, all the Korean variants were unified into one SKU, which is the SM-N950N.
zaidbaby said:
Hi,
I want to buy international model of Samsung Note 8. Also, can anyone share like the cheapest deal for Note 8's international version. ebay or anything works with me as long as the source is reliable.
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SM-N950F (Exynos Single SIM)
SM-N950F/DS (Exynos Dual SIM)
SM-N950N (South Korean carrier variant, Exynos)
SM-N950U (US Snapdragon 835 Single SIM variant, Locked Bootloader)
SM-N950W (Canadian Snapdragon 835 Single SIM, Locked Bootloader)
SM-N9500 (Chinese Snapdragon 835 Dual SIM, Unlocked Bootloader)
Preferably get either of the first two, they're unlocked and it doesn't really matter whether you get the Dual SIM or not since the software updates and all are the same.
murtaza02 said:
There is no N950K, like the US variants, all the Korean variants were unified into one SKU, which is the SM-N950N.
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Yep my bad I meant N950N
Fixed
murtaza02 said:
SM-N950F (Exynos Single SIM)
SM-N950F/DS (Exynos Dual SIM)
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Ah, that explains it with the SM-N950F/DS I have, which is the variant sold here in Singapore. I'd be willing to bet the SM-N950F has a different SIM tray.
Besides looking at the label on the bottom of the box, another way to identify the SM-N950F/DS variant is the presence of the Samsung "DUOS" logo on the top of the left side of the box, where the carrier logo would be on a carrier variant.
Additionally, Samsung Galaxy S8, S8+, and Note8 sold in Singapore have an extra Samsung Singapore support sticker on the top of the inner lid of the box, and as with past Galaxy phones sold in the same country, there's an extra brochure (separated from the documentation) highlighting some features (some of them specific to here) like Smart Switch, Samsung Pay, Samsung Concierge, and Smart Academy.
kbhasi said:
Ah, that explains it with the SM-N950F/DS I have, which is the variant sold here in Singapore. I'd be willing to bet the SM-N950F has a different SIM tray.
Besides looking at the label on the bottom of the box, another way to identify the SM-N950F/DS variant is the presence of the Samsung "DUOS" logo on the top of the left side of the box, where the carrier logo would be on a carrier variant.
Additionally, Samsung Galaxy S8, S8+, and Note8 sold in Singapore have an extra Samsung Singapore support sticker on the top of the inner lid of the box, and as with past Galaxy phones sold in the same country, there's an extra brochure (separated from the documentation) highlighting some features (some of them specific to here) like Smart Switch, Samsung Pay, Samsung Concierge, and Smart Academy.
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It probably does, and yes the stuff you mentioned in the spoiler is exactly the same as my Note 8 which is a Singapore import as well. I too have the extra Samsung support sticker, Samsung Pay info and extra brochures inside the box.
murtaza02 said:
It probably does, and yes the stuff you mentioned in the spoiler is exactly the same as my Note 8 which is a Singapore import as well. I too have the extra Samsung support sticker, Samsung Pay info and extra brochures inside the box.
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Except, I do actually live in Singapore*, where it has a recommended retail price of S$1398, and it seems to be more expensive in Australia.
*I'm currently on holiday with some relatives in Perth, that's why I bothered to research the Australian retail price.
Oh yeah! I just remembered, Samsung Pay appears to be region/country specific. I'm not sure if there'll be a way to sideload a different country version without rooting, or if the user would have to use Android Pay instead. At least, after finding out while browsing the "My Apps" list in Galaxy Apps, I now have a second reason why I bought mine in my home country (besides the price difference).
I can post a screenshot of what I mean here, or you can watch this video I just uploaded, where you can also see my particular unit I just mentioned:
Oh, and if you want to see them, more photos I posted on Instagram, and I have even more photos of mine.
kbhasi said:
Except, I do actually live in Singapore*, where it has a recommended retail price of S$1398, and it seems to be more expensive in Australia.
*I'm currently on holiday with some relatives in Perth, that's why I bothered to research the Australian retail price.
Oh yeah! I just remembered, Samsung Pay appears to be region/country specific. I'm not sure if there'll be a way to sideload a different country version without rooting, or if the user would have to use Android Pay instead. At least, after finding out while browsing the "My Apps" list in Galaxy Apps, I now have a second reason why I bought mine in my home country (besides the price difference).
I can post a screenshot of what I mean here, or you can watch this video I just uploaded, where you can also see my particular unit I just mentioned:
Oh, and if you want to see them, more photos I posted on Instagram, and I have even more photos of mine.
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Samsung Pay will activate in your country when you activate the phone with a SIM card from that country, doesn't matter where you bought it.
Singapore's default CSC is XSP, activating the phone with a Singaporean SIM card will activate XSP on the phone and you'll be able to use Samsung Pay in Singapore.
Suppose you take the phone to Australia cause you've moved there. Reset it, activate it with an Australian SIM card. Origin CSC stays as XSP, active CSC however becomes XSA or any other Australian CSC and Samsung Pay will work there too.
Keep in mind this only applies to international model phones (N950F), and not the other variants.
The issue with the Korean Note FEs was that they were all South Korean carrier phones which meant they could only be used there for Samsung Pay and nowhere else.
murtaza02 said:
Samsung Pay will activate in your country when you activate the phone with a SIM card from that country, doesn't matter where you bought it.
Singapore's default CSC is XSP, activating the phone with a Singaporean SIM card will activate XSP on the phone and you'll be able to use Samsung Pay in Singapore.
Suppose you take the phone to Australia cause you've moved there. Reset it, activate it with an Australian SIM card. Origin CSC stays as XSP, active CSC however becomes XSA or any other Australian CSC and Samsung Pay will work there too.
Keep in mind this only applies to international model phones (N950F), and not the other variants.
The issue with the Korean Note FEs was that they were all South Korean carrier phones which meant they could only be used there for Samsung Pay and nowhere else.
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Oh, I get it now. I'll go update the description of my video.
The thing is, I saw these packages in Galaxy Apps:
(It disappeared, but I remember it being there when I made the video yesterday)
Oh yeah, and a small side effect for me that can be ignored: I bought my Note8 from someone else, who got it from Singtel, and when I set it up for the first time, I didn't have my SIM card installed, which had it set the CSC to XSP, and install that carrier's bloatware. (I did it like this first because I wanted to try some stuff that I couldn't try on the retail demo unit, theming being one of them) I did a reset, and put in my M1 SIM card. This time, only "My Singtel" app installed, and I could disable that and "Singtel Apps" packages in the Apps section in Settings.
I did, however, find out a way to view the active CSC, which I remembered not being able to do on my Note3 a few years ago.
Hey guys, might be a stupid question, but I wanted to ask this, is the N950F/DS the same (or another name actually) as the N950FD ?
DeejayTelis said:
Hey guys, might be a stupid question, but I wanted to ask this, is the N950F/DS the same (or another name actually) as the N950FD ?
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Yes. Technically there is no N950FD but most retailers have the dual SIM variant listed as such. That and the N950F/DS are exactly the same.
murtaza02 said:
Yes. Technically there is no N950FD but most retailers have the dual SIM variant listed as such. That and the N950F/DS are exactly the same.
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Happy new year! And thank you very much!
I've recently received my note 8, and I've been meaning to install the ironman rom + kernel + twrp, so i wanted to know if it would be possible. Thanks again!
DeejayTelis said:
Happy new year! And thank you very much!
I've recently received my note 8, and I've been meaning to install the ironman rom + kernel + twrp, so i wanted to know if it would be possible. Thanks again!
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If it's a N950F or the DS variant, it is possible.
Happy new year to you too.
Cheers
Can I use the International the N950f in the US ??
Thank You.
Mr.Ash.Man said:
N950F = International Version (EXYNOS)
N950U = US Version (SNAPDRAGON)
N950N = Korean Version (EXYNOS) 256GB
I do not reccomend buying from eBay unless its overseas. Lots of easy scams with eBay and Mobile phones
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Mr. Ash Man thanks for the info on the Note 8 variants !!!
I really appreciate XDA Developers, the limitless amount of legitimate information that is given freely on XDA is truly astonishing.
XDA is my go to place for all things Android.
Hmmmmmm
Mr.Ash.Man said:
N950F = International Version (EXYNOS)
N950U = US Version (SNAPDRAGON)
N950N = Korean Version (EXYNOS) 256GB
I do not reccomend buying from eBay unless its overseas. Lots of easy scams with eBay and Mobile phones
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I really don't understand Samsung's choices sometimes, at time I feel totally mind boggled by some of the decisions that Samsung makes, like putting Tizen on Gear smartwatches & making it incompatible with Android Wear, why not make Gear line of run on both Android's os & Samsung's Tizen os just like our Notes & S line phones do, if they couldn't put both operating systems on the devices then why not make a line that runs Android os & a line that runs Tizen os, the same frustration with Samsung when they short the US customers with base variant phones that only come with 64gb of rom, we do always get blessed with the flagship snapdragon processor chip, I definitely appreciate Samsung for that b/c the Snapdragon processors are always better, what I don't understand is why bless the states with Snapdragons flagship processor chips but then turn around & short us by only releasing base version variants that only come with 64gb, bless us with the best processors & cut us off at the knees by only releasing a base model with 64gb of rom while Samsung releases variants with 64gb rom & 128gb rom & 256gb rom.
I WANT the 256gb version, I always go for the variant that has the largest screen size & the most memory.
Samsung should release all variants in every country, it shouldn't be a problem for anyone in any country to go to Samsung's global site or our country's site & order whatever device we want with whatever variant that we want.
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Mr.Ash.Man said:
N950F = International Version (EXYNOS)
N950U = US Version (SNAPDRAGON)
N950N = Korean Version (EXYNOS) 256GB
I do not reccomend buying from eBay unless its overseas. Lots of easy scams with eBay and Mobile phones
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Is the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 256gb Korean variant compatible with US carriers ?!!
If so which carriers is it compatible with ?
Verizon Wireless is my carrier.
Do any of you have a non US variant & if so does it fully function or is it limited ?
Is the 950F/DS or 9500 on 8.0 yet?
note 8models unlock issue
note 8 from pakistan model number SM-N950FZKDXSG
is this unlocked in my country?
im ordering this from online dubai website
kindly help
SAMSUNG NOTE 8 SM-N950U and SM-N9500
Hello All. Please, I need some help. I have a Samsung note 8 SM-N950U as it says in the "About Phone" option with the Snapdragon 835. When i take photos or connect the phone to a PC, it says Samsung note 8 with model number SM-N9500.
I am confused because it is a single sim device and all the SM-N9500 are dual sim device. I was thinking of flashing with the China firmware but i am scared the IMEI will become locked again.
What should I do at this point?
Chidavis said:
Hello All. Please, I need some help. I have a Samsung note 8 SM-N950U as it says in the "About Phone" option with the Snapdragon 835. When i take photos or connect the phone to a PC, it says Samsung note 8 with model number SM-N9500.
I am confused because it is a single sim device and all the SM-N9500 are dual sim device. I was thinking of flashing with the China firmware but i am scared the IMEI will become locked again.
What should I do at this point?
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Boot into download mode and it'll show you the actual model number.
If it's SM-N9500, you can flash the TGY SM-N9500 ROM and you should be able to get dual SIM functionality.

which variant to buy?

I'm considering buying the note 8 but in terms of community support which version (if any) is better supported or is it to early to tell?
My last phone was the S5 - SM G900i and while it was good most roms were generally made for the f variant. the f variant roms worked ok but always caused issues with nfc which i could work around generally by disabling nfc. I'd like to avoid that situation this time around and I plan on keeping this phone for a few years.
Gialandon said:
I'm considering buying the note 8 but in terms of community support which version (if any) is better supported or is it to early to tell?
My last phone was the S5 - SM G900i and while it was good most roms were generally made for the f variant. the f variant roms worked ok but always caused issues with nfc which i could work around generally by disabling nfc. I'd like to avoid that situation this time around and I plan on keeping this phone for a few years.
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Exynos single sim in general gets the most... but can you disclose where do you live? As that would be major factor.... if Europe then UK unlocked model brings theglory in general...aka exynos single sim.
The 950F and 950N are identical hardware, but all the ROMs are being developed with the F firmware base, which seems to be set up as dual SIM at the software level (F contains the dual SIM RIL libraries while the N does not).
Right now the only real consideration between those two is internal storage since I think the 256gb model is only available as N variant.
The HK 256gb is Snapdragon.
Hunteres said:
Exynos single sim in general gets the most... but can you disclose where do you live? As that would be major factor.... if Europe then UK unlocked model brings theglory in general...aka exynos single sim.
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I live in New Zealand. The most common variants ive seen are the sm-g9500, sm-g950f and the sm-g950fd. There are also some usa sm-g950u available through eBay.
Of these the fd variant is the cheapest and fairly easy to import. Local version seem to the f and 9500 but the local versions are generally about $400 more expensive.
I am not to worried about importing and the warranty issues. I've never had hardware issues with Samsung phones and even if I did I'd get it repaired locally and it would still be cheaper.
For the US versions, does the unlocked version and carrier versions all have the same amount of support for bands as I heard the hardware was all the same and it's just the software that is different on the carrier variants. Basically, if one uses Verizon Wireless, can one purchase the T-Mobile or the unlocked model or even the Verizon Wireless model of the Note8 and have the same bands enabled on the phone so it works well when traveling using a pre-paid SIM or is the unlocked model going to offer more band support as it seems Samsung doesn't list the actual band support on the models.

international note 9 on US samsung pay

Has anyone bought the international dual sim version of Note 9 and is able to use samsung pay in US?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...rentrq:f30678381650a992290dc1f3ffff2956|iid:1
I noticed that the dual sim version they are selling also has Snapdragon 845. I did some research. It seems to me that the Snapdragon 845 is key to use samsung pay in US. Even it does not have it built in, the US firmware can also be flashed in as long as it is Snapdragon 845.
Any thoughts?
tjiang001 said:
Has anyone bought the international dual sim version of Note 9 and is able to use samsung pay in US?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...rentrq:f30678381650a992290dc1f3ffff2956|iid:1
I noticed that the dual sim version they are selling also has Snapdragon 845. I did some research. It seems to me that the Snapdragon 845 is key to use samsung pay in US. Even it does not have it built in, the US firmware can also be flashed in as long as it is Snapdragon 845.
Any thoughts?
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Same situation I have here, I would appreciate if anyone helps us.

Need help to determine which model has Dual Sim?

Hey folks, I live in Canada, but I wanted a Dual-Sim variant of this model so bad. (5G Snapdragon variant). Samsung Canada and BH-Photo are giving a lot of discrepancy information regarding the SM-G780U overall specs.
I don't know if anyone can confirm to me whether SM-G780U or SM-G780F has dual sim? Or if your phone has Dual Sim and is a 5G Snapdragon variant, what model is it?
The Tech Chap from Youtube mentioned in a hands-on video that his 5G SD variant is a dual sim (at 3:10 of the clip), but he never says the model variant . No other reviewer mention dual-sim so far.
QuietZebra said:
Hey folks, I live in Canada, but I wanted a Dual-Sim variant of this model so bad. (5G Snapdragon variant). Samsung Canada and BH-Photo are giving a lot of discrepancy information regarding the SM-G780U overall specs.
I don't know if anyone can confirm to me whether SM-G780U or SM-G780F has dual sim? Or if your phone has Dual Sim and is a 5G Snapdragon variant, what model is it?
The Tech Chap from Youtube mentioned in a hands-on video that his 5G SD variant is a dual sim (at 3:10 of the clip), but he never says the model variant . No other reviewer mention dual-sim so far.
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I'm in Canada too, and waiting on the dual-SIM variant myself. Dual-SIM models will indicate dual-SIM, and no North American models (e.g., SM-G780U) will be dual-SIM, if past practice is any indication. There is usually a dual-SIM variant of the Global (F) model - but if it's not indicated as dual-SIM, it isn't. I'm actually hopeful that the HK model will be dual-SIM and 256 GB storage, like the HK Note20 Ultra - but time will tell.
Today I discovered that at Amazon Germany and Amazon France, the variant SM-G780F being offered by Amazon seems to have Dual Sim. Samsung UK also offer SM-G780F which is a dual-sim variant.
jtOttawa said:
I'm in Canada too, and waiting on the dual-SIM variant myself. Dual-SIM models will indicate dual-SIM, and no North American models (e.g., SM-G780U) will be dual-SIM, if past practice is any indication. There is usually a dual-SIM variant of the Global (F) model - but if it's not indicated as dual-SIM, it isn't. I'm actually hopeful that the HK model will be dual-SIM and 256 GB storage, like the HK Note20 Ultra - but time will tell.
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Looks like it might not have 256 GB of storage, but it might have 8 GB of RAM (other listings of the S20 FE have been wrong about this as we know, so this will have to be verified). Still, at least it is Snapdragon, 5G and dual-SIM: https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung...0-lte-mobile-phone-sim-free-and-unlocked.html
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QuietZebra said:
Today I discovered that at Amazon Germany and Amazon France, the variant SM-G780F being offered by Amazon seems to have Dual Sim. Samsung UK also offer SM-G780F which is a dual-sim variant.
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If 5G is not that important to you, and you don't mind getting the Exynos version, they are available on EBay: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Samsung-Gal...48958b212ec9c7a63aa2|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2334524
Unfortunately, the whole point of me getting a Samsung S20 FE was to get Snapdragon with Dual Sim. For the entire S20 and Note 20 Samsung line, only HK edition has SD and Dual Sim. I'm still waiting for confirmation but it seems SM-G781B is also a dual Sim variant.
QuietZebra said:
Unfortunately, the whole point of me getting a Samsung S20 FE was to get Snapdragon with Dual Sim. For the entire S20 and Note 20 Samsung line, only HK edition has SD and Dual Sim. I'm still waiting for confirmation but it seems SM-G781B is also a dual Sim variant.
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Why unfortunately? It sounds like the HK version is the way to go - in fact, I had ordered a HK Note20 Ultra but cancelled it as I couldn't justify the price (and that price continues to drop).
I have UK device, SM-G781B/DS and it's dual sim, 5G, Snapdragon.
flibblesan said:
I have UK device, SM-G781B/DS and it's dual sim, 5G, Snapdragon.
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Good to know! You mean two physical nano SIMs? And have you tested the 5G on both SIMs?
My USA s20 fe claims its a dual sim version in settings but its not so keep that in mind when buying your phone. The model lists itself as a SM-G781U1/DS
willcaff said:
My USA s20 fe claims its a dual sim version in settings but its not so keep that in mind when buying your phone. The model lists itself as a SM-G781U1/DS
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Ah, I see what you mean - it shows that model number, but there is no SIM Card Manager, or dual-SIM capability - correct?
jtOttawa said:
Good to know! You mean two physical nano SIMs? And have you tested the 5G on both SIMs?
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Yes, it has a hybrid SIM tray that takes two nano SIMs or one nano SIM and a micro SD card. 5G works on either card.

Are all Samsung s20 FE dual sim or not all

Hi All,
I just returned empty handed from the Samsung store at the mall. I wanted to pick up the Samsung s20 FE dual sim. I need dual sim. I was told by the sales person that they only carry the single sim in the store. I asked him if he could pop the sim tray from a sample s20 FE and showed me that it only tales a sim and a SD card. Then he said that you can only get dual sim when ordering online.
I just when online and don't see a dual sim option.
So is it true that Samsung makes single sim models and a dual sim model?
Thanks in advance for your response.
pvaldeben said:
Hi All,
I just returned empty handed from the Samsung store at the mall. I wanted to pick up the Samsung s20 FE dual sim. I need dual sim. I was told by the sales person that they only carry the single sim in the store. I asked him if he could pop the sim tray from a sample s20 FE and showed me that it only tales a sim and a SD card. Then he said that you can only get dual sim when ordering online.
I just when online and don't see a dual sim option.
So is it true that Samsung makes single sim models and a dual sim model?
Thanks in advance for your response.
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Yes, it's true. When you say you went online and didn't see a dual-SIM option, do you mean you went to Samsung USA (as it appears you're located in the States)? Samsung USA (or anywhere in North America) doesn't offer a dual-SIM model. What the sales rep meant was you have to go online to buy an international, dual-SIM variant of the S20 FE, of which there are several.
jtOttawa said:
Yes, it's true. When you say you went online and didn't see a dual-SIM option, do you mean you went to Samsung USA (as it appears you're located in the States)? Samsung USA (or anywhere in North America) doesn't offer a dual-SIM model. What the sales rep meant was you have to go online to buy an international, dual-SIM variant of the S20 FE, of which there are several.
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Thanks for the reply looks like I will have to start looking at Oneplus again because I already have a dual sim setup on my oneplus 6t works excellent but wanted something with better camera and able to record calls.
I already tried the Pixel 5 or about 2 weeks but had to return due to all the short coming on dual sim. I was not able to set a separate ring tone for each sim and there is not way to setup call record.
So I'll keep looking for solutions.
pvaldeben said:
Thanks for the reply looks like I will have to start looking at Oneplus again because I already have a dual sim setup on my oneplus 6t works excellent but wanted something with better camera and able to record calls.
I already tried the Pixel 5 or about 2 weeks but had to return due to all the short coming on dual sim. I was not able to set a separate ring tone for each sim and there is not way to setup call record.
So I'll keep looking for solutions.
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I actually quite like Samsung's dual-SIM phones - partly because I am used to Samsung's ecosystem, and partly because of their dual-SIM features. I currently have a dual-SIM S9+, and I plan to get a dual-SIM S20 FE myself. I don't think any of them have native call recording though - but of course there are apps for that.

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