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Zoom APP in the Market!!

For everyone that havent noticed yet, theres a new app on the market that allows ZOOM on the G1 Camera, now we are only missing a FLASH so we can get great quality pics on night.

What is the name of the app?

BSDADON said:
What is the name of the app?
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CamaraZoom
That's the easy way to find it via search on the market... and cost .99 euro?

You do know that this is digital zoom and not optical zoom, right? You're basically getting a cropped picture. You may as well just take the picture click the zoom button on your viewer...

What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?

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What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
Now, if you really want a zoom, get one of these babies. I got it on e-bay for $13 including shipping and it's the real deal. Plus, you look like a total ubercooldork when you pull it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508175

Ill be happier when they come out with the S60 ability to do "Night Mode" which gave me GREAT pictures in nighttime and so without the flash.

At max zoom you are getting the equivalent of a .5MP photo which means you have an image that is 2048x1526 pixels large and only have 500,000 pixels to fill it. Add to that the fact that the autofocus cant figure out what to do to obtain a decent image and you end up with pictures that are more grainy than the Sahara Desert. This is why I havent added it to snapPhoto. If you want crappy pictures then simply take the image and zoom it with some other app.
Now Flash. You do realise that flash is a hardware thing right? And you do realise that you cant code hardware into something that doesnt have it. I would have thought that was a basic concept but here we are 9 months after launch and people still cant figure that out.
As far as nightmode - on snapphoto it does work, but it cant make light where there is none so if you expect it to make a shot taken in very dark areas to suddenly be like a shot taken in full daylight - think again. All nightmode does is leave the shutter open longer in an attempt to get more light exposure. As a result of this any movement will lead to much blurrier pics.
If you want an example of what can be achieved by someone who takes a little time to play with the settings in my app check out .
http://thecrayonbox.org/files/nightbeach.jpg
Taken with snapphotopro.

Nice with snapphoto. I may try that for the G1. However the Nokia S60 phones have a great night mode. Ive taken alot of pictures with low light and it performed better then my optical digital camera. This was with a Nokia 3650 which isnt even a MP phone (My 2 MP camera was dark photos only)
This was taken at a amusement park on top of the "Eifel Tower" at the twilight night time.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(42).jpg
I did a comparison that night between the 2 modes.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(43).jpg
Yea it added a green tint, but for when I travel out now, I use my phone all the time. =) (Granted did upgraded to a higher caliber S60 MP camera phone lol)

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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
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i LOLed.

This is a seriously cool camera.
I know its digital zoom but really helps for composition and saves the hassle of cropping later on (say if I take 10 zoomed pictures).
I love Snap Photo too, but Camera ZOOM is the new camera for me - seems a lot of people like it - already top 25 app!
Customisable skins, animations, easy to use and fast ... would definitely recommend.

Better to take photos in 40 or 10mpx?

Sorry if someone already explained but I've not found an answer.
I would like to understand when is better to take pictures with 40mpx sensor and when is better with 10 mpx option.
Sorry but this huawei is new for me and I would like to understand how to make the best photos
Thank you for help

if the situation permits, then 40mp. the worse the conditions, the more compromises.

As far as I can tell 40mp is useful in Pro mode and i have posted the difference it makes on my insta. HDR and night mode revert to 10mp. You can have a look if you search my feed tag justaninstaguy there is a a few pics. I can't upload on the XDA app it keeps coming up with bad request.

you can post your Photos on Flickr with hashtag #huaweip20pro > https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/huaweip20pro

starbase64 said:
if the situation permits, then 40mp. the worse the conditions, the more compromises.
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Which are the conditions for the 40 mpx?

Socialnotworking said:
As far as I can tell 40mp is useful in Pro mode and i have posted the difference it makes on my insta. HDR and night mode revert to 10mp. You can have a look if you search my feed tag justaninstaguy there is a a few pics. I can't upload on the XDA app it keeps coming up with bad request.
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Thank you for your answer.
At the moment the photo I've taken are better in 10mpx. Anyway I can't see much difference with the s9 plus, to be honest many pics are better in s9 plus

marko68 said:
Thank you for your answer.
At the moment the photo I've taken are better in 10mpx. Anyway I can't see much difference with the s9 plus, to be honest many pics are better in s9 plus
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Quite possibly, I think the hardware in the P20 Pro is right up there but they just don't have the development refinement of Samsung or perhaps Google as yet. It was the same on the Mate 10 Pro, on paper it was perfect but niggles made it frustrating. That's the attraction with Apple, it may not be good value or offer but 99% of users can experience 99% of the capability of the phone whereas with the P20 Pro and Mate 10 Pro you really have to try hard to get the best out of it right now.

marko68 said:
Which are the conditions for the 40 mpx?
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a sunny day or tripod in low light

Socialnotworking said:
Quite possibly, I think the hardware in the P20 Pro is right up there but they just don't have the development refinement of Samsung or perhaps Google as yet. It was the same on the Mate 10 Pro, on paper it was perfect but niggles made it frustrating. That's the attraction with Apple, it may not be good value or offer but 99% of users can experience 99% of the capability of the phone whereas with the P20 Pro and Mate 10 Pro you really have to try hard to get the best out of it right now.
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I agree

after hundreds of shots...I prefer 10mpx. Details, sharpness , lights, everything is better
40mpx sensor is useful only for particular situations and to take compensated photos (night mode, ecc but this automatically happens)

40mp by far in daylight. In low light 10mp.
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This is a good explanation I found on another site "Now, you don't actually want to take 40MP pictures. Tap that image size in the settings menu and you won't get access to the other lenses. Instead, you want to leave it on the 10MP setting. This doesn't retire the 40MP lens. Here, it will oversample the picture and make it the best it can be when it's squeezed down to the lower, 10MP resolution. It also lends a hand when zooming beyond 3x. The 8MP camera takes great detailed images at that range, but bump it up to 5x and hybrid zoom will mix in the feed from the 40MP sensor to help improve overall clarity."

At least at daylight, taking 40MP and resized to 10MP, the result is much better than taking 10MP directly.
The main problem of 10MP is it's over-sharpen, 40MP resized to 10MP reduced the problem although still some.

marko68 said:
Sorry if someone already explained but I've not found an answer.
I would like to understand when is better to take pictures with 40mpx sensor and when is better with 10 mpx option.
Sorry but this huawei is new for me and I would like to understand how to make the best photos
Thank you for help
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If you need to change zoom then 10 is the way as you can't with 40..
If you're stationary and perhaps taking a wide angle image like a landscape or a city or sky or a large group of people, something you need detail for them 40 is the way.

P20 Pro Camera problems

Believe it or not, P20 pro shoots terrible photos! Zoom in and see the details they are absolutely terrible. Especially when shooting close-ups the phone performs poorly and the images are blurry. I don't know why the problem occurs but it shouldn't be how so called the worlds best camera would perform. Anyone else has this problem?

Sure. But it looks nice on the phone display. This is what people want.

all the pugs said:
Sure. But it looks nice on the phone display. This is what people want.
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but why is it even worse than my old huawei p8 lite.

I don‘t know. I also wonder. For me, zoom is not usable, and I only use pro mode, because it processes the images differently. Auto, night and hdr mode are currently just outputting bad, blurry and oversharpened images. Hoping for a firmware fix but I often read that other users like the look, so it‘s probably how huawei wants them to look.

Jeph gonna Steph said:
Believe it or not, P20 pro shoots terrible photos! Zoom in and see the details they are absolutely terrible. Especially when shooting close-ups the phone performs poorly and the images are blurry. I don't know why the problem occurs but it shouldn't be how so called the worlds best camera would perform. Anyone else has this problem?
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no problem here (Macro)
Upload macro photo pls(Untouched original files /original size)
Ty

I noticed that the zoom sensor isn't always stabilized: in low light and in close up shots it loses his stabilization, thus it produces awful results. Few days ago I took a picture of a little cat with 3x zoom, in a very low light scenario. This is the result I got (see attachment).
I also have attached a video where you can clearly see the stabilized zoom lense kicking in, and how shaky the image is when the stabilization goes off (focus on how the images "stretches" when I zoom to my little Wi-Fi antenna and to my mouse).
https://photos.app.goo.gl/AJiWNjdbFyMj3UeKA

Another quick comparison (attachments):
3x Without Stabilization (closer to subject) vs 5x With Stabilization (Farther)
Same light conditions, I just moved farther and closer to reach the distance needed to lose stabilization.
I think our zoom lense is intended to work just with far objects and not to take closer macro shots.

solefero69 said:
Another quick comparison (attachments):
3x Without Stabilization (closer to subject) vs 5x With Stabilization (Farther)
Same light conditions, I just moved farther and closer to reach the distance needed to lose stabilization.
I think our zoom lense is intended to work just with far objects and not to take closer macro shots.
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Mate! yes!
When capture close photo with 3x zoom not the TELE lense working .!!!Regular lense with DIGITAL zoom
Tele lense useless for macro shots! Minimum distance 1, 1.5 meter need.
Your absolutly right!

kabirjedi said:
Mate! yes!
When capture close photo with 3x zoom not the TELE lense working .!!!Regular lense with DIGITAL zoom
Tele lense useless for macro shots! Minimum distance 1, 1.5 meter need.
Your absolutly right!
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I roughly measured the distance: it's about 50-60cm. Getting farther from this with good light conditions will enable Stabilized Zoom Lens. In low light scenario, stabilization doesn't work at any distance for me.

Jeph gonna Steph said:
Believe it or not, P20 pro shoots terrible photos!
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I agree! Especially in scenes with high contrast (landscapes in bright sunlight...) 1. dark surfaces (mostly shadows) turn into deep black (no more structures...) and 2. all details lost when you zoom into the picture (And no, i am not a pixelpeeper, but pls compare the 100%-View with another flagship...).
Intelligent Auto-HDR has to come, like in iOS or Samsungs Galaxys...
I also agree with the statement, these p20 pro pictures were made for good looking at the small display, not more!

holgerka75 said:
I agree! Especially in scenes with high contrast (landscapes in bright sunlight...) 1. dark surfaces (mostly shadows) turn into deep black (no more structures...) and 2. all details lost when you zoom into the picture (And no, i am not a pixelpeeper, but pls compare the 100%-View with another flagship...).
Intelligent Auto-HDR has to come, like in iOS or Samsungs Galaxys...
I also agree with the statement, these p20 pro pictures were made for good looking at the small display, not more!
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Mate too much,,,
One of the best camera yet.
Thsi is auto with ai and ai off
Imigine pro mode...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IExHyzoJMEEjiQfe36m1r82PEEPNLCK9
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17WkXYeaM48DrOc1RXsVWjid9Hp_IcJuk

no camera problems here
3x Zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
5x Zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
crop from 40MP no Zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
no zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
3x zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
5x zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
10x zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

holgerka75 said:
I agree! Especially in scenes with high contrast (landscapes in bright sunlight...) 1. dark surfaces (mostly shadows) turn into deep black (no more structures...) and 2. all details lost when you zoom into the picture (And no, i am not a pixelpeeper, but pls compare the 100%-View with another flagship...).
Intelligent Auto-HDR has to come, like in iOS or Samsungs Galaxys...
I also agree with the statement, these p20 pro pictures were made for good looking at the small display, not more!
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I'm sorry but that's not totally correct. When AI is turned on, it automatically enables HDR when needed and is surprisingly good.

All shot and edited on P20 Pro. I love it.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

I think you may be the problem with your photos.
1st is 3x lens
2nd is 5x hybrid further away.
The 3x is clearly better.
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3x
5x
10x
2018-06-19_09-22-23 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

Obviously there are shortcomings with the zoom which users should be aware of when using it. The big one is the aperture which if i remember correctly is only f/2,4 or something like that. A big difference from the other lenses as it let's in a lot less light to the sensor. It also answers the questions why it performs poorly when the light disappears. Use zoom only when you have enough light to get a good shot, if the light is poor shoot at 40mpix shot and then crop it in post.
I'm having no big issues with the zoom myself as i only use it in good daylight situations and i avoid the 5x zoom since it looks way to artificially enhanced. Just crop into a 1x or 3x shot is enough.
I do wish Huawei toned down on sharpening and noise reduction as it would improve detail rendering to a much greater degree. A little sensor noise is not a bad thing, it gives photos a bit more character and personality.
/ Magnus

Magnus3D said:
Obviously there are shortcomings with the zoom which users should be aware of when using it. The big one is the aperture which if i remember correctly is only f/2,4 or something like that. A big difference from the other lenses as it let's in a lot less light to the sensor. It also answers the questions why it performs poorly when the light disappears. Use zoom only when you have enough light to get a good shot, if the light is poor shoot at 40mpix shot and then crop it in post.
I'm having no big issues with the zoom myself as i only use it in good daylight situations and i avoid the 5x zoom since it looks way to artificially enhanced. Just crop into a 1x or 3x shot is enough.
I do wish Huawei toned down on sharpening and noise reduction as it would improve detail rendering to a much greater degree. A little sensor noise is not a bad thing, it gives photos a bit more character and personality.
/ Magnus
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Totally agree with you
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solefero69 said:
I'm sorry but that's not totally correct. When AI is turned on, it automatically enables HDR when needed and is surprisingly good.
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In auto mode HDR is also used automatically when deemed appropriate with AI turned off. The only way to disable auto HDR is to use pro mode (and likely some of the other modes, but they are obviously more specialized).

Magnus3D said:
I do wish Huawei toned down on sharpening and noise reduction as it would improve detail rendering to a much greater degree. A little sensor noise is not a bad thing, it gives photos a bit more character and personality.
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Absolutely +1!
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In auto mode HDR is also used automatically when deemed appropriate with AI turned off. The only way to disable auto HDR is to use pro mode (and likely some of the other modes, but they are obviously more specialized).
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Sorry you both(solofero & MikeMTS)! It may be right that HDR comes with Auto (with AI or w/o AI doesn´t matter)... But that intelligence when HDR turns on is crappy, most pics I wish they had HDR comes without it. So I have to turn on HDR manually for most situations...

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

So i took few photos.
1) Stock cam portrait mode on object
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231433373/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: very nice object separation, good detail preservation.
2) Star of this phones camera setup - macro cam
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50230897823/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50230898113/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231760232/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231543996/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232080781/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: just wow, quality, details. Best macro shot i've seen on any phone.
3) Normal shots
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232298942/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232080956/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233393941/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233396586/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233610022/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233615612/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233617217/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233617707/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: very decent photos, great hdr, colors, details, white balance on point.
4) Snaps from 8k video
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231585333/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232228536/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: anbilivable these are snaps from video, great detail, low noise - love it!
Yet to test - low light.
As for these shots i grade camera 5/5

CROrION said:
So i took few photos.
1) Stock cam portrait mode on object
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231433373/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: very nice object separation, good detail preservation.
2) Star of this phones camera setup - macro cam
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50230897823/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50230898113/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231760232/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231543996/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232080781/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: just wow, quality, details. Best macro shot i've seen on any phone.
3) Normal shots
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232298942/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232080956/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233393941/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233396586/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233610022/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233615612/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233617217/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50233617707/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: very decent photos, great hdr, colors, details, white balance on point.
4) Snaps from 8k video
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50231585333/in/album-72157715505381368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/50232228536/in/album-72157715505381368/
comment: anbilivable these are snaps from video, great detail, low noise - love it!
Yet to test - low light.
As for these shots i grade camera 5/5
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Is it possible to take photos in raw?

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yes

Could you post a few raw from outdoors daylight?

Would like to see some night shoots and video too

Coming from an S8 plus, is this an upgrade when it comes to camera?

khestoi said:
Coming from an S8 plus, is this an upgrade when it comes to camera?
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Off course !

khestoi said:
Coming from an S8 plus, is this an upgrade when it comes to camera?
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My pro zoom edition just arrived 3 days ago. Before I had the exynos s8+. I am waiting for the bootloader unlock by xiaiomi, but I can already tell you that even with china rom and stock camera it is a big jump

Just few point and shoot pictures (k30 pro zoom edition) with stock miui camera.
https://i.imgur.com/gISwowB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iwFRLG0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Uqqq8n7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/S8PBRfv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gbLHKki.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i8YNLfu.jpg

Hello Team
Can anybody share few photos of example documents? [newspaper, school-book, book, etc]. Taken indoor [so it means under "mean" light conditions].
For me it is interested how this phone handle such photos.

One thing Ive noticed when I was taking photos of documents/book pages was that it blurs on the periphery. It's clear on the center, but becomes *very subtly* blurry on the outward edges as if you've moved your hand for a split second. I shoot in a well lit room with light (bulb and natural light, and I shoot from the above (natch) so Im not sure why the focus is not uniform and. has blurring on the edges. Also using gcam btw: Twichaya2.

BystandrX said:
One thing Ive noticed when I was taking photos of documents/book pages was that it blurs on the periphery. It's clear on the center, but becomes *very subtly* blurry on the outward edges as if you've moved your hand for a split second. I shoot in a well lit room with light (bulb and natural light, and I shoot from the above (natch) so Im not sure why the focus is not uniform and. has blurring on the edges. Also using gcam btw: Twichaya2.
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I noticed the same thing in the photo comparison tool from gsmarena.com: https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=10220&idPhone2=10097&idPhone3=9816
I wonder how pronounced the effect is in real world usage, keeping in mind that for some photos of humans, the face is at the edge of the frame.

this is why I asked for real examples. I have seen the same "issue" with many other cameras.

Iqoo Neo 3 --> GCAM Photo improvements?

Reading some say Iqoo Neo 3 might have not the sharpest photos, anyone tested with GCAM to see if it improves quality?

I own this phone, and the camera is a big step up from my 3 year old axon 7. As far as 'not the sharpest photos' goes, often in portait mode the vivo camera does a lot of automatic settings, that adjust beauty and light. sometimes this doesnt go well, but probably 85% of the time, if I'm patient, I get a terrific photo.
With GCAM, I have had success with GCAM 7.3.020, modified(m_7.2.010_Urnyx05-v2.2.apk) for taking astrophotography, but sometimes the app does crash with regular photos.
from this guide
https://www.ytechb.com/download-google-camera-7-3-for-iqoo-3/
I am happy with this phone camera. It is better than my wifes Redmi Note 8 pro. I cannot compare it with other, similar priced or spec'ed phones.
Hope this helps.

Maybe you have photo samples from your neo 3? Thanks !

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Maybe you have photo samples from your neo 3? Thanks !
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Sorry for very late reply.
First image (floating structure in water) was captured at sunset with vivo's camera. all auto, just a regular photo, no tripod. This is the best example and one of my favourite photos. The AI for taking a photo and adjusting itself to the light did a great job IMO.
Second photo is using gcam and a selfie stick with a base. 30 second photo of the milky way, about 10pm at night, in a country area with little to no light pollution.
Both photos are compressed by both google images and then xda uploads. original file size is about 8-9mb for each.
Sorry I'm not keen to upload any portrait photos.