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TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.
Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.
Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607
In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?
Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.
I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.
fr4nk1yn said:
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?
sniperess said:
But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.
Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.
MarkRobert said:
Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.
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You can buy the xiaomi 27W QC4 charger it does 27-35W
realme x2 pro has 50W, so something there shud fit
I've tried various chargers but the SOC was >85% so it wasn't a proper test. With most charger (QC or PD) I've gotten 15W, including with my 65W PD laptop charger. With the original charger I got 20-22W. If it's important to check the power, I can wait until it's discharged and redo the tests, which I plan to do anyway.
For travelling, I find it a lot more useful to have the 36W (18W QC + 18W PD?) cheap Amazon charger with 2xUSB-A and 1xUSB-C, which has the same size as the original charger: https://smile.amazon.de/gp/product/B07WFDTJFR/
Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w
I've now tried all the chargers and powerbanks that I have, QC3 or PD. All of them cap out at 16W, even though they can deliver more. I got the original one to charge with 30W (at 60% SOC).
The original charger is marked QC3 but they are probably not following the standard.
From my understanding the Snapdragon 732g has Quick Charge 4+ support doesn't it ?
manu1991 said:
Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w
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Yes, i've noticed the same. Around 27w max. Today i was charging my phone and observing the batt temperature. Kinda obvious, but the hotter the battery gets, the lower charging power it will deliver. Here in Brazil the temp this week is being around 36-42°C, so i put the phone over a bar of artificial ice. As the batt temp went under 35°C, the resultant "charging current" went to around 5500-6000mA. Doing the math, it was possible to arrive at the 27w result. (~4,5V x 6 = 27w).
When the batt temp was near 38~39°C, charging was down to 2000-2800mA (resulting to around 10-12w).
I also found something strange, it wasn't able to show the charging percentage with 2 decimals, as shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y8ja08uGEQ
Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??
danieliswhattheycallme said:
Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??
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maybe this?
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005001516773316.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.221f1870n5uSWW&algo_pvid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88&algo_expid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88-15&btsid=0b0a187916118446027031496e9a4e&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
For me GAN 65W chargers (Baseus) are good and universal quick chargers.
I have made a quick test in the thread Chargers and Charging speed
Hello, anybody knows a third brand wireless charger that works with 15w fast wireless charge? Or the fast charge is propietary of samsung chargers only?...thank you
123rataza said:
Hello, anybody knows a third brand wireless charger that works with 15w fast wireless charge? Or the fast charge is propietary of samsung chargers only?...thank you
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As far as I know, only the Samsung Fast Wireless Charger 2.0 will give you full 15W wireless charging.
Anything else (even if rated for 15W or above) will supply standard Qi wireless wattage of upto 10W (mostly 7.5 to 9 W)
Got an OMARS white brand 15W wireless charger and it only charges at the 10W level.
123rataza said:
Hello, anybody knows a third brand wireless charger that works with 15w fast wireless charge? Or the fast charge is propietary of samsung chargers only?...thank you
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Use the type c to type c pd /pps charging .
U can use the samsung official 25w charger or a non branded one 25w and above and u can get good 15w or supported wireless charging with the supported wireless charger
Never mind
I tried with my huawei 15w wireless charger says its charging fast. I use with the 40w power supply of my huawei phone. Only proble is the pad its small and have to align precise because of the camera bump.
Pd. Its any way to know it is the phone is charging at 10w or 15w? Only says fast wireless charging.
My wireless charger has three different LED's for charging, yellow for 5W, green for 10W and blue for 15W, I'd guess if you have no other way to tell, you have to go by the time it takes for it to charge.
123rataza said:
I tried with my huawei 15w wireless charger says its charging fast. I use with the 40w power supply of my huawei phone. Only proble is the pad its small and have to align precise because of the camera bump.
Pd. Its any way to know it is the phone is charging at 10w or 15w? Only says fast wireless charging.
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Interesting, I used the OnePlus oem fan cooled charge wireless and it would not charge mine. I look at the battery settings and it will tell me if it's fast charging btw. I got a nice Nillkin from Amazon that works
inpression said:
My wireless charger has three different LED's for charging, yellow for 5W, green for 10W and blue for 15W, I'd guess if you have no other way to tell, you have to go by the time it takes for it to charge.
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What charger you have?
One of those Amazon white brands, an OMARS 15w wireless charger, think I got it still in 2017.
Saw these online but i'm not too sure if they work...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001346934830.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002212794786.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002363430707.html
Hi guys ! I have Huawei 65W charger. Can i use that with my Mi 11 Ultra ? I was thinking is here why not to use it but I don’t want to fry something inside with long term usage.
This is a picture with the official xiaomi eu 65w charger. You can compare it as well to see the differences
It probably won't charge at 65w
I have a huawei super charger from my mate 20 pro (40w) and if I plug it into a Samsung or a realme or xiaomi etc it charges at about 10w
Huawei phones can detect the correct super charge brick and even using a non huawei cable will probably cripple your charge time
Thank you guys !
As far as I know (I have yet to recieve my device, but I do have a compatible 65W charger) it should be able to charge at 20V 3.25A (65W)
Worst case scenario it will just charge at the minimum speed available. There are all kind of handshakes and confirmations that happen before power is delivered from the charger to the phone.
Keep an eye on the battery temp... avoid draining battery below 20-30%
I have for example a type c charger brick from my hp elitebook laptop.
It has the same V/A ratio to do the 65w charging as the original xiaomi charger i posted above.
It does not work charging at 65w with the mi 11 ultra.
Be careful what charger you use and also the cable is very important !
I also use this type c adaptor to 3.5 and type c adapter ( to charge the phone and listen at the same time ) also this is the cable i use with my charger.
Hello,
I believe the CN version comes without a charger, does that apply to international version as well? In all unboxing I've seen of international version they came with a charger, want to confirm by anyone who got his international version since mine still needs 2 weeks to be here. Anyone can confirm please?
Hello, I bought a Oneplus 8t+5G (tmobile) used off of Ebay, so I'll need to buy the 65W fast charger myself, what I was unclear on was the cable itself. I currently use this cable, (https://a.co/fCB5o9D) the only power rating it lists is 3.1A. If I bought a 65W charging block, would this cable be sufficient to get the most out of the fast charging?
Also feel free to discuss recommendations for 65W charging cables/blocks. Thanks
If you're using an original OnePlus charger with a USB-C to USB-C cable, it doesn't really matter which one you use, it's best if it meets PD 3.0 60-100W requirements and is reasonably solid. I tested 3 different cables of this type: the original one, some unspecified BlitzWolf and BaseUs PD 60W and the WarpCharge 65W charging was identical with each one. It is different if you would like to use an Oppo or Realme charger with USB-A output - in this case only the original cable will probably charge the WarpCharge 65W.
And remember that only a OnePlus charger compatible with WarpCharge 65W (Realme Superdart or Oppo SuperVooc 2.0) will charge 65W. Third party chargers, even if they are 100W, will not comply with this charging standard.