Hi guys ! I have Huawei 65W charger. Can i use that with my Mi 11 Ultra ? I was thinking is here why not to use it but I don’t want to fry something inside with long term usage.
This is a picture with the official xiaomi eu 65w charger. You can compare it as well to see the differences
It probably won't charge at 65w
I have a huawei super charger from my mate 20 pro (40w) and if I plug it into a Samsung or a realme or xiaomi etc it charges at about 10w
Huawei phones can detect the correct super charge brick and even using a non huawei cable will probably cripple your charge time
Thank you guys !
As far as I know (I have yet to recieve my device, but I do have a compatible 65W charger) it should be able to charge at 20V 3.25A (65W)
Worst case scenario it will just charge at the minimum speed available. There are all kind of handshakes and confirmations that happen before power is delivered from the charger to the phone.
Keep an eye on the battery temp... avoid draining battery below 20-30%
I have for example a type c charger brick from my hp elitebook laptop.
It has the same V/A ratio to do the 65w charging as the original xiaomi charger i posted above.
It does not work charging at 65w with the mi 11 ultra.
Be careful what charger you use and also the cable is very important !
I also use this type c adaptor to 3.5 and type c adapter ( to charge the phone and listen at the same time ) also this is the cable i use with my charger.
Hello,
I believe the CN version comes without a charger, does that apply to international version as well? In all unboxing I've seen of international version they came with a charger, want to confirm by anyone who got his international version since mine still needs 2 weeks to be here. Anyone can confirm please?
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Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
ggkameleon said:
Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
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it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
lockmunk said:
it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
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Ok thanks. I can use it no mistake but slow. I think buy a qc 3 or 4 it's good. For car I have too dash car and it's so good I loose it. I have car charger qc 2 or 3 I don't know.
Thanks
Rommco05 said:
DASH charger is good for OP, strange for others. Highly not recommended to use DASH on other devices than OP
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Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. Perfectly safe to charge anything, however not quickest charging option for others.
Rommco05 said:
RIP battery. Do u think it is good charging phone with no original charger? Especially with OP DASH
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Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
tomsag said:
Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. .
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Bull****, the original MI 8 charge is QC 3.0 and I'm getting up to 3.3A on it.
It's very fast..
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Flash-User said:
Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
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What he said.
Rommco05 said:
I see, probably u never heard about optimization, calibration and testing btw and that's isn't about fast or slow charging
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OKay its just your opinion but my opinion is you have no insight in electrical topics or the insight of such an charger.
optimization - the charger doesn't overcharge or use an overvoltage on your phone when its not support their specific fast charge technology it simply slow down to 5v - max. 2.4A, these charging speed will never cause any damage on your phone.
its just simple: an QC phone doesnt use the benefits of SuperCharge technology or Dash Charge and vize versa....
And trust me i've done more calibration and testing in USB charging topics and their different Charging tecnologys as you think (mobile batterys, chargers and so on).
I had several phones and several chargers and compared nearly all of them (QC, FastCharge, VOOC) and there is absolutely nothing dangerous to charge a phone with a QC charger if it is a supercharge phone.
But .... you ever can prove the contrary. I'll never stop learning but you have to tell me some facts.
Hello everyone
I wanted to know if I can charge my Redmi k20 pro/ Mi 9t pro which support fast charging with my ThinkPad laptop charger with 65W?
they both have type C charging port but I was worried not to fry my phone or damage it in the long run with respect to my phone's battery.
Need Help!!:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
yes you can why not? I used usb-c cable from dell dock station and it was 100+ W
ameen_inaa95 said:
Hello everyone
I wanted to know if I can charge my Redmi k20 pro/ Mi 9t pro which support fast charging with my ThinkPad laptop charger with 65W?
they both have type C charging port but I was worried not to fry my phone or damage it in the long run with respect to my phone's battery.
Need Help!!:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Yes, the phone supports USB-PD, which is what the laptop charger will be using to charge. Although the charger can provide 65W, it will only deliver a maximum of 27W to the phone, as that's what the phone will communicate is its maximum.
Robbo.5000 said:
Yes, the phone supports USB-PD, which is what the laptop charger will be using to charge. Although the charger can provide 65W, it will only deliver a maximum of 27W to the phone, as that's what the phone will communicate is its maximum.
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So the adapter will restrict any overflowing of the power to protect phones battery right?
All i was wondering was no to damage my phone's battery.
thanks for the help
Hey guys has anybody tried other xiaomi chargers with their mi 11 ultra?
Chargers like:
Xiaomi 65w Gan charger (USB c Port)
Xiaomi 65 w charger (USB a port)
Xiaomi 55w Charger
How well did these fare compared to the normal one(possibly with a adapter to actually use it)?
I use 65W Gan because i don't have one in the box.
Available in EU version, so it's perfect for me, and it's a small charger.
sabrewulf said:
I use 65W Gan because i don't have one in the box.
Available in EU version, so it's perfect for me, and it's a small charger.
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Did you check if it actually gives you about 65w?
I use the 65 W Gan charger with USB C port from Xiaomi with my Mi 11Ultra. It supports turbo charging. It takes aprox 45 minutes from 10 - 100 %. I can highly recommend it because it is half of the size of the 67 W charger and almost the same charging speed.
achimmexico said:
I use the 65 W Gan charger with USB C port from Xiaomi with my Mi 11Ultra. It supports turbo charging. It takes aprox 45 minutes from 10 - 100 %. I can highly recommend it because it is half of the size of the 67 W charger and almost the same charging speed.
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I'm sorry if it sounds silly but did you check with apps like Accubattery how much voltage etc it gives? It should be possible to calculate the watts like that
Hello, i'm using the original 65W xiaomi gan charger Eu version. Model BHR4499GL
I'm very happy with it and accubattery indicates even 10mA charging current, depending on the battery temperature, system load and the charge level of the battery itself.
When the battery is empty ( or bellow 20% or so) it will go to max 10mA from what i've seen and of course drop to around 3-5 mA when it's nearing full capacity.
I never let the battery drop bellow 20% and usually try to unplug the charger until it reaches ~90% but rarely manage to do so because is damn fast .
If i wake up in the morning with around 30-40% charge i plug it in for around 10-15 minutes and it almost reaches 90% maybe even more
I also use a special PD 2.0 usb type C to type C cable from Baesus, model CATKLF-ALG1
"Baseus Type-C Cafule PD2.0 100W flash charging cable (20V 5A) 2m Black (CATKLF-ALG1)"
So it's not only the charger but also the cable that it's important
Take care !
Moreover, the Model BHR4499GL actually supports multiple charging standards than the 67W one that comes in the global unit's box . Plus it's type c so it's easier to find pd charging cables that will work with it
@achimmexico @Jhonxs @sabrewulf I calculated it. The 65w GaN Charger does about 38-39 Watt (i charged from about 10%)
Calculate it yourself if you like.
9810 mA
3.96 volt.
My 11 ultra charges fine with every generic quick charge 3 charger i have but of course better with the 67watt charger that came with it.
Didn't know it got sold without a charger?
I have 65W and 67W charger and there is a difference about 2-3min when charging from 3% until 100%.
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I have 65W and 67W charger and there is a difference about 2-3min when charging from 3% until 100%.
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Yeah I noticed that too that the 65W charger doesnt take much longer. But yeah.
RX1337 said:
Yeah I noticed that too that the 65W charger doesnt take much longer. But yeah.
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This is very strange to hear (read) , as I have a Mi11 Pro and of course use it with the 65W charger, but it takes 55 minutes to go to full. This is extremely frustrating, as 11 Pro should charge in about 36 minutes.
leoking3 said:
This is very strange to hear (read) , as I have a Mi11 Pro and of course use it with the 65W charger, but it takes 55 minutes to go to full. This is extremely frustrating, as 11 Pro should charge in about 36 minutes.
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Honestly it always depends on the battery temperatures and all that. Also keep in mind that chargers always have inefficiencies as well. Sometimes the slow charging seems very random. I am using the 67W Charger for instance. Xiaomi's Charging Tech feels either inconsistent or it's just that the battery or charging brick may just are weird with charging them sometimes.
hgoor said:
My 11 ultra charges fine with every generic quick charge 3 charger i have but of course better with the 67watt charger that came with it.
Didn't know it got sold without a charger?
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In China they sold it without the charger, but they did give you the option to buy it when you bought your phone and many places now give it as a gift when you buy a new MI 11 Ultra.
RX1337 said:
Honestly it always depends on the battery temperatures and all that. Also keep in mind that chargers always have inefficiencies as well. Sometimes the slow charging seems very random. I am using the 67W Charger for instance. Xiaomi's Charging Tech feels either inconsistent or it's just that the battery or charging brick may just are weird with charging them sometimes.
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Yes you are mostly correct, as I was on a trip for 2 days , charged it there with the SAME charger and it took 34 minutes on the watch to get full. Came back home, 45 minutes.... Very very inconsistent.
leoking3 said:
Yes you are mostly correct, as I was on a trip for 2 days , charged it there with the SAME charger and it took 34 minutes on the watch to get full. Came back home, 45 minutes.... Very very inconsistent.
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Speed differences at two different locations can also point wiring inefficiencies/socket connections in the home. If the charger produced different speeds using same sockets, etc... Then I'm more to say apt to say it's the charger, but with multiple variables...
Helo people can somebody tell me about this problem im facing, i bought 65w mi gan charger for my mi 11 ultra when i put on charging it displays 55w max, why its not showing 65w if anyone knows about it
umer.ibrhaim said:
Helo people can somebody tell me about this problem im facing, i bought 65w mi gan charger for my mi 11 ultra when i put on charging it displays 55w max, why its not showing 65w if anyone knows about it
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You need original xiaomi 67w charger and cable to get the Max 67W charging. At first I was getting only Mi Turbo Charge (i bought my Mi 11 ultra used) and after some testing with different cables and chargers I realized that my cable is not original xiaomi cable (maybe it was huawei/honor cable cuz they look almost the same) and I had to buy a new original one. Now I charge at Max 67W speed.
Alright, so 65 one from Xiaomi will not work ?
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Alright, so 65 one from Xiaomi will not work ?
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I don't think you will be able to get 67w charging with a 65w charger. Buy a 67w charger or just use the 65w you have (if the charging speed is OK for you). I decided to buy 67w because it is 3 times faster than Turbo Charge (the difference is huge).
The cable that comes with the 67w charger is super short so i bought 66w 3a or something cables that should support the turbo charge.
Not only it doesn't turbo charge but not even quick charge.
Anyway to bypass this Xiaomi only cables protection?
doribak said:
The cable that comes with the 67w charger is super short so i bought 66w 3a or something cables that should support the turbo charge.
Not only it doesn't turbo charge but not even quick charge.
Anyway to bypass this Xiaomi only cables protection?
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I bought a 100W USBC cable and have no issue to turbo charge with it if plugged to the Xiaomi charger.
Where I am a bit disappointed is I bought an Aukey charger and unfortunately it only fats charges but doesn't turbo charge
There is no "xiaomi cable only" or similar restrictions.
The cable you bought is just not "good enough".
You need a cable that supports at least 6A I think.
I have several cables and also cables that support Ultra Charge and are not from xiaomi.
But in fact it is so that even with these cables (Although ultra charge is displayed) is not charged as fast as with the original cable.
If you want to use the power supply with 100 percent of the possible performance I have actually only managed to do so far with the original cable ...
It's not about "Xiaomi only" cable. Power delivery is dependant on the lenght of the cable. For my old OP7T Pro the cable that came with the phone is thick as the one that Xiaomi uses. But i needed longer one and when i got it, it was thick flat cable. Looks lika SATA cable - like 2mm thick and 8mm wide. I'm thinking that if we want turbo charge with 1,5-2m cable it needs to be very high quality with the highest specs available.
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It's not about "Xiaomi only" cable. Power delivery is dependant on the lenght of the cable. For my old OP7T Pro the cable that came with the phone is thick as the one that Xiaomi uses. But i needed longer one and when i got it, it was thick flat cable. Looks lika SATA cable - like 2mm thick and 8mm wide. I'm thinking that if we want turbo charge with 1,5-2m cable it needs to be very high quality with the highest specs available.
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You will get some degrade in voltage when you increase the cable length
The charger brick can output 67w Max and if you double or triple the length of the cable all 67w will not reach the phone
On a high quality (expensive) cable you might get most of it and on a cheap cable from the dollar store or eBay it might take several hours to fully charge because the cable might only be rated to send 5w ,10w or 18w
Other factors come into play like room temperature , how many apps are running in the background/foreground , whether or not you're connected to 5g , wifi , Bluetooth devices and whether the screen is on or off
Best results normally come from the cable that came with it and I read it's the only one that works with the mi unlock app to unlock your bootloader
Xiaomi really need to up their game on accessories.
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Best results normally come from the cable that came with it and I read it's the only one that works with the mi unlock app to unlock your bootloader
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I used my old OnePlus USB cable to unlock mine, and install new firmware, worked fine.
My OnePlus cable worked fine for USB related stuff but wouldn't charge at full speed and my LG one didn't get recognised in Fastboot.
My Oneplus 150cm dash cable displays Mi Turbo Charge / Rapid charging but doesn't count up like the original cable does when it displays Mi Turbo Charge.
My "ACAGET USB C Cable 2M, 55W 6A Charge Turbo" cable just displays quick charge / fast charging.
ok guys, a couple of questions here.
the x90PP comes with an 80 watt flash charger which is proprietary of vivo.
1) would a oneplus charger (say 80 watts) work with fast charging the Vivo at 80 watts? I understood somewhere that any BKK (vivo oppo oneplus etc) chargers are compatible with each other?
2) does anyone know what charging speeds the phone get connected to a PD charger? or GAN?
3) finally would anyone recommend a compatible fast charger for it for car and normal as I need to buy 2 or 3 and leave them at various locations
Thanks
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ok guys, a couple of questions here.
the x90PP comes with an 80 watt flash charger which is proprietary of vivo.
1) would a oneplus charger (say 80 watts) work with fast charging the Vivo at 80 watts? I understood somewhere that any BKK (vivo oppo oneplus etc) chargers are compatible with each other?
2) does anyone know what charging speeds the phone get connected to a PD charger? or GAN?
3) finally would anyone recommend a compatible fast charger for it for car and normal as I need to buy 2 or 3 and leave them at various locations
Thanks
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1) i havent tested that myself but i read somehwere the chargers arent compatible
ok..Actually Im jumping the gun.I will be recieving my x90PP and have oneplus chargers(80w I think).I will test and report. any idea on the rest? like PD fast charging and GaN fast charging speeds? thanks again
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ok..Actually Im jumping the gun.I will be recieving my x90PP and have oneplus chargers(80w I think).I will test and report. any idea on the rest? like PD fast charging and GaN fast charging speeds? thanks again
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PD charging speed is about 18w.
It will likely also charge with around 18w on the OnePlus charger. The default Vivo charger does charge PD devices but is ultra sensitive on longer cables. Cables that work without problems on other chargers fail on the Vivo charger with my laptop when it comes to speed and drop down to 20w or less.
And 2m cable on the Vivo charger usually meant downgrading the speed to ~18w too. I have no single cable that works full speed on the Vivo Charger with the X90 Pro+ except the Vivo supplied one.
Very likely there is no USB 3.2 compatible cable that supports more than 18w charging. So either fast charging (likely 1.5m max lenght) or fast USB 3.2 transfer speeds. Never both (I don't have 1m cables because I prefer 2m cables and before never had problems with them on other devices/chargers).
The configuration of the Flash charging interferes with USB 3.2 speeds as far as I understood. That's why the Vivo supplied cable is only USB 2.0 Full speed.
It's pretty annoying. I have the feeling I won't be holding on to the phone too long..shame.
1)buggy software.
2)camera nice but buggy.
3) proprietary technology that locks you down in a system you're avoiding (such as apple)
4)at least with the apple ecosystem you get seamless experience and uniformity.
For me sticking to android always was the customizability and aftermarket stuff.
With vivo in particular it is very hard for both. Shame . Such a nice phone but a headache just to find a 6a long cable that works. Or a flash charger that doesn't cost angazzilion dollars to buy on AliExpress.
Sorry, venting.
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It will likely also charge with around 18w on the OnePlus charger. The default Vivo charger does charge PD devices but is ultra sensitive on longer cables. Cables that work without problems on other chargers fail on the Vivo charger with my laptop when it comes to speed and drop down to 20w or less.
And 2m cable on the Vivo charger usually meant downgrading the speed to ~18w too. I have no single cable that works full speed on the Vivo Charger with the X90 Pro+ except the Vivo supplied one.
Very likely there is no USB 3.2 compatible cable that supports more than 18w charging. So either fast charging (likely 1.5m max lenght) or fast USB 3.2 transfer speeds. Never both (I don't have 1m cables because I prefer 2m cables and before never had problems with them on other devices/chargers).
The configuration of the Flash charging interferes with USB 3.2 speeds as far as I understood. That's why the Vivo supplied cable is only USB 2.0 Full speed.
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But thanks so much for explaining this.