Hi, I'm comparing the performance of the S21 Ultra (exynos) with Note 20 Ultra (snapdragon) and playing Genshin Impact I can see a big difference in visuals. In the Note 20 looks good, with frames drop every time but nothing terrible in default settings, but in the S21 the motion clarity is horrible. First I think that it was a fps issue, but no, is more like ghosting. Anyone have notice this? The reviews doesn't say nothing about it.
Are you using 120 or 60hz?
120hz in both phones
Hmm thats strange... I dont game but on videos everything is like it should. Have you tried 60 if the motion blur is better?
Does it happen in safe mode?
Try clearing the system cache.
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Ok maybe a little dramatic but still - a little disappointing.
I have done a few tests. Played the exact same HDR YouTube videos at the exact same time with my Mate 9 and Mate 10 one above the other in landscape mode. The Mate 9 is MUCH brighter than the Mate 10 on maximum brightness. I have factored turning off auto brightness and turned off Smart resolution etc etc. They also have different colour temperatures even if you set them both to warm, default or cold - they still look different.
I have tried HDR videos on both phones and I see absolutely no difference. I studied the colours so hard. I see absolutely no difference between a 1440p video and a 1080p video playing at the same time. In fact, most times the Mate 9 looks sharper and more vibrant. Also shockingly the Mate 9 offered for example 1080p 60fps option on a video whereas the Mate 10 offered maximum 720p 60fps on the same video. 1080p was nowhere in the list. What the hec! Battery at 100% so no resolution switching to save power.
Basically, it is true 1440p is wasted on a phone. There is no difference on a small screen such as a phone. All these people saying "yeah but X phone only has a 1080p screen" don't realise that it doesn't really matter. It all looks the same.
So I hear the Mate 10 is HDR 10 compatible and yet I don't see it with my eyes. If I am doing something wrong and someone wants to correct me, please DO. I want to be wrong.
What are your tests and opinions?
Despite all this, I still love the phone. ?
I take it all back.
I have discovered YouTube does not show HDR10 output even if the video says so.
ONLY the built in video player supports true HDR10 content.
I downloaded these HDR sample videos from an XDA post:
https://mega.nz/#F!jYwlgbBA!piXwD8sYa7zjsRtjStuAyw
Play them in the default video player and they look stunning. I took a screenshot of a paused video and when opened up in gallery, the colours were bland compared to the actual playing footage. Proof enough.
Phew! This phone is amazing!
Do you get higher peak brightness when in vivid mode ?
AFAIK - Currently Netflix is the only third party app supporting HDR 10 for this phone
Youtube coming soon though,
So, you might want to change your thread title, LoL
tboy2000 said:
I take it all back.
I have discovered YouTube does not show HDR10 output even if the video says so.
ONLY the built in video player supports true HDR10 content.
I downloaded these HDR sample videos from an XDA post:
https://mega.nz/#F!jYwlgbBA!piXwD8sYa7zjsRtjStuAyw
Play them in the default video player and they look stunning. I took a screenshot of a paused video and when opened up in gallery, the colours were bland compared to the actual playing footage. Proof enough.
Phew! This phone is amazing!
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i try the videos there,look extremely amazing with very excellent vivid colors
tboy2000 said:
Ok maybe a little dramatic but still - a little disappointing.
I have done a few tests. Played the exact same HDR YouTube videos at the exact same time with my Mate 9 and Mate 10 one above the other in landscape mode. The Mate 9 is MUCH brighter than the Mate 10 on maximum brightness. I have factored turning off auto brightness and turned off Smart resolution etc etc. They also have different colour temperatures even if you set them both to warm, default or cold - they still look different.
I have tried HDR videos on both phones and I see absolutely no difference. I studied the colours so hard. I see absolutely no difference between a 1440p video and a 1080p video playing at the same time. In fact, most times the Mate 9 looks sharper and more vibrant. Also shockingly the Mate 9 offered for example 1080p 60fps option on a video whereas the Mate 10 offered maximum 720p 60fps on the same video. 1080p was nowhere in the list. What the hec! Battery at 100% so no resolution switching to save power.
Basically, it is true 1440p is wasted on a phone. There is no difference on a small screen such as a phone. All these people saying "yeah but X phone only has a 1080p screen" don't realise that it doesn't really matter. It all looks the same.
So I hear the Mate 10 is HDR 10 compatible and yet I don't see it with my eyes. If I am doing something wrong and someone wants to correct me, please DO. I want to be wrong.
What are your tests and opinions?
Despite all this, I still love the phone.
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Of course it's the same because mate 10 comes preset to 1080p lol. And stop listening to tech reviewers the are dumb, only way to see it 1080p and 2k is to use magnifying object like camera or glass etc. I have iPhone 7 plus, LG G6, Moto Z play, Essential phone and the s8 which I sold because of burn in, I don't see the dots pixel on any off them because I don't look for it, they all looks the same some are brighter and vibrant than others. That's it.
Another thing, the max brightness on auto is superior than the manual max brightness. That happen on a bunch of smartphones.
So, it's dumb to compare max brightness with the auto setting turned off.
The best way to compare it, is going outdoor with the auto checked on both and look which one seems brighter.
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Hi all
Maybe I am wrong, but some time ago I could not see HDR mark on the video in YT,
Now with the latest updated (from 21 May) it seems that new app supports HDR on Mate 10 Pro
HDR is working now on YouTube app.
And I want to mention that I've compared mate 10 pro display with samsung S8 plus and S10 plus playing hdr videos and the result is that Mate 10 pro has the most beautiful display, collors are more realistic, there is a huge difference..... Mate 10 pro display is better than samsung one, the clarity is superiour, collors more realistic and it is an oled pannel too. I can't believe that mate 10 pro display is soo good, I'm a Samsung fan but Mate 10 pro impressed me.
liviuionut22 said:
HDR is working now on YouTube app.
And I want to mention that I've compared mate 10 pro display with samsung S8 plus and S10 plus playing hdr videos and the result is that Mate 10 pro has the most beautiful display, collors are more realistic, there is a huge difference.
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They may have some different displays' settings, you've got it?
So, it's a tnin matter – the real test on the same settings.
And we know nothing about yours, dude.
amosk59 said:
They may have some different displays' settings, you've got it?
So, it's a tnin matter – the real test on the same settings.
And we know nothing about yours, dude.
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As long as he is happy lol. Anyways its mostly subjective.... nobody cares about some HDR video testing. to this date HDR is barely available for normal youtube content nor other apps etc. so who cares? In the end any decent oled screen with decent brightness will do the job.
amosk59 said:
They may have some different displays' settings, you've got it?
So, it's a tnin matter – the real test on the same settings.
And we know nothing about yours, dude.
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Displays were set to vivid to all the phones. Mate 10 pro showed more realistic collours. Test it yourself and see if I am right.
My phone is Mate 10 pro bla l09 single sim model.
The other two phones are from some of my friends.
Galaxy s8 plus refreshes at 1080p with hdr, and at 4k with hdr it runs even harder. Galaxy s10 plus works well in both resolutions. Iven the display resolution is higher on samsung phones the clarity and the colour calibration is better in my mate 10 pro, in my opinion.
I just received the update of slo mo on my S8 and compared to Note 9, it's way superior.
The field of view is more and clarity especially in artificial light is night and day. Both are recording at the same resolution though and note 9 can't even seem to focus and is a blurry mess.
Anyone else received this update and compared it?
Have you actually compared the frame rates? The S8 can do [email protected] and the Note 9 can do [email protected] and [email protected] That's quite a difference. The higher the frame rate, the more light is required, hence the result you are seeing.
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Have you actually compared the frame rates? The S8 can do [email protected] and the Note 9 can do [email protected] and [email protected] That's quite a difference. The higher the frame rate, the more light is required, hence the result you are seeing.
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He's referring to the new update with super slow motion which appears to capture at 480fps but video samples I've seen so far indicate it is interpolated from 240fps as there are odd video artifacts and stutters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9mcNRjqfas 0:52
In the comments a user said they determined the frame rate is only 480fps but also agrees it is probably interpolated from 240fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMAiU4I_83U
The reason it looks "better" and doesn't flicker is that it's just taking the 240fps video and slowing it even further through interpolation. For most people this won't be a big problem but you're not getting "real" 480fps. You could try interpolating the 1080p240fps on the Note 9 using motion interpolation programs (such as Twixtor or some plugins in Avisynth). Off the top of my head I don't know any Android apps that do this.
So as I said, the S8 does [email protected] and the note 9 is capable of much more. Note 9 appears worse as the frame rate is higher.
Hi, so I've noticed something weird when watching videos on whatever video app I can use. i.e. YouTube at 480 or less (happens in all resolutions but it's more noticeable at 720 or less) it's very sad looking at very sharp videos because the 1080p screen isn't that bad.
I've searched for this issue but people say they have this but on RN8 Pro, so I think it's mostly MediaTek issue and I hope it can be fixed, my old Galaxy J6 had a better screen even though it was 720p.
Samples: http(space)s://drive.goo(space)gle.c(space)om/folderview?id=1-ai88KihLjUxIB4KlYbiWx_9AUw3EYq-
Just tried a slow motion video and it looks like it has a ton of dropped frame issues or micro pauses. Has anyone else seen this or is it a known issue?
rendez2k said:
Just tried a slow motion video and it looks like it has a ton of dropped frame issues or micro pauses. Has anyone else seen this or is it a known issue?
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Yes, any recording below 4K is crap on this phone. You will notice frame drops even with super steady mode also.
krkdesigns said:
Yes, any recording below 4K is crap on this phone. You will notice frame drops even with super steady mode also.
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Wonderful! What's the reason? Do we know it it will be fixed?
rendez2k said:
Wonderful! What's the reason? Do we know it it will be fixed?
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This mostly happens with Exynos series of phones. Although some improvements have been made since the first update, camera still fails considerably. Noise and frame drops are something which is unacceptable. We just have to create more noise for Samsung to notice and work on an update. I don't think this phone is what they said it is.
We just have to wait for next update. No wonder samsung s20 ultra scored better than S21 Ultra in camera ratings.
krkdesigns said:
This mostly happens with Exynos series of phones. Although some improvements have been made since the first update, camera still fails considerably. Noise and frame drops are something which is unacceptable. We just have to create more noise for Samsung to notice and work on an update. I don't think this phone is what they said it is.
We just have to wait for next update. No wonder samsung s20 ultra scored better than S21 Ultra in camera ratings.
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Yep, definitely related to the Exynos phones. I haven't had any issues with my camera app using any of the different settings or modes available. But I do have the SD888 version of the phone...
NippleSauce said:
Yep, definitely related to the Exynos phones. I haven't had any issues with my camera app using any of the different settings or modes available. But I do have the SD888 version of the phone...
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Drives me mad that there's two different versions of the phone that cause performance issues. Why not just put SD in them all or make their own chip work?!
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Drives me mad that there's two different versions of the phone that cause performance issues. Why not just put SD in them all or make their own chip work?!
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Agreed. Luckily enough, just after they had released this phone, they had admitted to their current chip having a few issues due to their manufacturing process and that their next generation Exynos chip won't have such issues anymore... So if we're lucky, that'll be in the S23 Ultra.
krkdesigns said:
Yes, any recording below 4K is crap on this phone. You will notice frame drops even with super steady mode also.
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That anything below 4k is crap thing depends on what lens/camera you are using, 1080p 30fps is the only remotely usable one on the exynos version in low light if you are using wide angle lens. Check this out:
Swe_cal said:
That anything below 4k is crap thing depends on what lens/camera you are using, 1080p 30fps is the only remotely usable one on the exynos version in low light if you are using wide angle lens. Check this out:
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I have tested this phone camera rigorously. I don't think 1080p works good in either lens or mode. Slow motion and super slow motion should be removed because its useless. 4k 60 Fps is the only stable video we can take on this phone.
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Just tried a slow motion video and it looks like it has a ton of dropped frame issues or micro pauses. Has anyone else seen this or is it a known issue?
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Hm just tried a slow motion video on my exynos version, no stutters at all. Recorded the fan of my PC rotating and moved the camera a bit, no hickups or stutter to be seen. German AUBB.
This was mine yesterday:
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Firmware is up to date i guess? And it does this consistently with all slomo videos you record?
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Firmware is up to date i guess? And it does this consistently with all slomo videos you record?
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Tried a few and all the same.
FW info. No updates pending.
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I have Exyons version. The slow motion is so smooth and there is no frame drop.
However the quality is crap in slow motion and tbh the whole video recording is not that good and has noise.
Portait video is good.
Khalid Madkour said:
I have Exyons version. The slow motion is so smooth and there is no frame drop.
However the quality is crap in slow motion and tbh the whole video recording is not that good and has noise.
Portait video is good.
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Yes, the recording quality is of no use. Especially if there's lowlight it's almost useless. Hyperlapse also has significant noise. I don't understand if people who are saying the quality is good actually get better videos or they are coming from a previous gen phone which was even worst.
No offense to anyone. But I am just so unhappy with this phone after having paid so much and Samsung portraying the phone as a beast. Its still a kitty cat.
If you have frame drops and etc, consider updating to the latest firmware. If your phone still does it after the latest firmware, then it must be deffective and you have to return it ASAP.
Additionally, I have noticed that if you turn off the Image Stabilization in the camera settings under video options, the whole noise thing becomes much better for normal recording. While it still seems to be somehow stabilizing :O
P.S. I do not mean only the supersteady option. Both have to be OFF. Please test it and share your feedback here so if it works, others can benefit from this as well.