Hello everybody,
I am currently using a Pixel 4XL, which is still in perfect shape.
It is a great phone and i am loving it, however there are a few things that are starting to get annoying, mainly:
- face unlock is great, but we are wearing masks all the day out of home (and i think we will have to for many months)...so it is a pain to unlock the phone: i wish I had a fingerprint scanner like my previous Pixel 3a xl.
- battery life is quite terrible...i cannot use 90hz screen if i want some sort of decent battery life...seems like Pixel 4a xl is great for battery life.
- design and weight: Pixel 4 XL really weights more than 3a xl (and so 4a 5g). Pixel 4a 5g has the same screen real estate but is more compact.
- 64gb vs 128gb
Aspects that make me worry about the switch:
- i love taking a great amount of fast point and shoot pictures; i fear that Pixel 4a 5g will be considerably slower in processing many pictures taken in few seconds, since it has a slower processor and no dedicated core.
- screen quality: i think that Pixel 4a 5g has a great brightness level, but i don't know if screen quality can be a problem coming from 4 XL (4k vs fullhd). pixel 3a xl had a bad panel, it was one the main reason that forced me to change phone.
Someone here switched to Pixel 4 XL to Pixel 4a 5g?
I look forward to some opinions, thank You all!
Hi . I switched from 4xl to pixel 5 . Had it One Day. Misssed out faceunlock. Bigger Side. Better speakers. Better screen.
krabban said:
Hi . I switched from 4xl to pixel 5 . Had it One Day. Misssed out faceunlock. Bigger Side. Better speakers. Better screen.
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Thank you for your feedback.
When i am out of home face unlock makes me mad, because i have to wear a mask, but it is indeed a great feature (if Google would have decided to have also a fingerprint scanner on the back the phone would have been perfect).
My fear is to miss screen quality (4k, unfortunately most of the time 90hz is disabled to save battery) and processor performance, especially in elaborating pictures since the dedicated core is missing in 4a 5g and 5.
Monfro said:
Thank you for your feedback.
When i am out of home face unlock makes me mad, because i have to wear a mask, but it is indeed a great feature (if Google would have decided to have also a fingerprint scanner on the back the phone would have been perfect).
My fear is to miss screen quality (4k, unfortunately most of the time 90hz is disabled to save battery) and processor performance, especially in elaborating pictures since the dedicated core is missing in 4a 5g and 5.
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just flash linage os or pixeldust and you will get much better screen on time. save the pixel 4xl.
I received a 4A 5G from Google for participating in special Pixel event just before the phone launched. It's a nice phone and if I didn't have my 4XL I would be "okay" with it. I used it for a day or two and put my sim back in my 4XL. It's just a half step back in my opinion, haptic motor, screen, speakers, speed, just overall a compromise. I love that Google does an affordable phone but they need to drop a real specced out phone in 2021....PLEASE
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Just some fun food for thought....
What attributes of what phones would make your perfect smart phone?
For me,
body dimensions, the height of a pixel 3, width of my old nexus 6p (dont like how modern smaller smartphones are more narrow)
5.5" screen & smaller bezels of the pixel 3
great front facing speakers of my old nexus 6p.
pixel 3s camera
specs & battery of the oneplus 6t
stock android
if I just described a phone that already exists, let me know lol
Give me a Sony Z Ultra with updated hardware.
Wait, isn't that what a Note 9 is ??
One Plus 6T is the best phone right now.
XIAOMI Mi 8 ?
Galaxy S10 maybe?
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XIAOMI Mi 8 ?
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Its good value for the price but its far from perfect since Xiaomi cuts corners on hardware. The amoled display on the Mi8 is subpar for instance, and theres comon display issues like color banding, poor led backlighting etc. And theres always the luck of the draw issue with Xiaomi with some people getting better hardware.
The perfect smartphone :
5.5" borderless
B20 & B28
NFC
Fingerprint under screen
Face ID with the same or more secure than iPhone
A little notch for the Face ID and face camera
Please chinese constructor, create this smartphone (Xiaomi Mi9 )
Stock Android Phones are perfect
6” 18:9 1440p Super AMOLED Display
No notch, holes or curves in display
Front facing speakers as loud or louder the the G7 or Razer Phone
Bezels not to big or smalls. My hands wrap around those kinds of phones and mess up things.
16MP Wide angle and standard lenses front and back with Google Camera Port
In display finger print reader
Near stock Android with extra features like AOD
32bit DAC with, oh a headphone jack
Type C fast charging and Wireless charging
SD Card slot
Snapdragon 855 or newer
A large enough battery to power it all for a reasonable amount of time
What else...
To me it sound like the V40 and Pixel 3 XL had a baby
In my case:
No notch. Even if it can be disabled, it's still annoying to have initially.
Nothing bigger than 6" for screen size. My pocket isn't ready for bigger.
Decent camera. I'm not asking wonders here, just decent night shots.
Good battery life. I expect it at least live out 9 hours with intensive use(YouTube, games, etc) on 4G.
At least good mid-range CPU.
NFC.
Front-facing fingerprint sensor, can be under screen.
Capacitive back and menu buttons. Most if not all new phones lack this. I could live with gestures, but this is about the perfect smartphone for me.
Not required, but nice to have: Able to survive most short drops(no more than 30cm) without any damage.
For me, the perfect phone is:
a display no larger than 4.7 inches, this is best in my hand
good camera around 12.0 Mpix
built-in memory min. 32 GB
iOS 7 or newer operating system
For me the best phone I've ever had is Iphone 6s, light and comfortable and most importantly indestructible
For me the perfect phone is,
5.5 inch display of samsung
speakers of razer phone 2
Camera of pixel 3
Battery capacity of POCO
flagship processor
Build of an iphone
price of xiaomi
6" Screen
1440p screen
5g connectivity
dual band GPS
wireless charging
triple camera array
No phone is perfect every brand lags somewhere.
I have lots of mobile/tablet due to my work on mobile development.
Still iPhone gave the best UE imo. Now I'm trying the Huawei Honor 10, the design it pretty great.
Much better than Pixel. I'm not sure the very high end mobile for now, iPhone still being my main mobile since all my information was saved on iCloud.
Moviphone with hd
Build of an iPhone
Display of samsung
Battery like Nokia(3310)
Performance like Oneplus
Pricing like Redmi.
Camera like Pixel.
5" or 5.3" borderless display (no notch)
amoled screen with decent ppi
good camera with zoom, must shoot perfect photos also at night
good battery
good gps, must sync in max 2-3 s
android stock pre-rooted and without crapware
some additional physical buttons (to use with pbmc). Volume buttons like in LG G2 would be nice.
no lags, all apps must start instantly
iPhone XS max.
oh, here we go....
7" 16:9 3D (glasses not needed, similar to what vizio made years ago and 3DS) 4k (8k if possible) dolby vision screen with bezels so a thick and heavy duty case can go on it...
high megapixel cameras (with led flashes) with good lenses that have sliding covers to cover the lenses when not in use...
Dual large and clean sounding speakers with dolby atmos
ufs 3.0 1TB storage
16GB Ram
855 plus processor
clean install of android with root support
10000mah battery
usb c 4.0
3.5mm jack
hdmi out
capable of passing 3D out the hdmi to a tv or projector
LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, and 71
5G support
AX aka wifi 6 built in
I would be satisfied with all that
If the Pixel 4 and Pixel 5 have the exact same camera, how can the Pixel 5 possibly give better results?
The Snapdragon in the 4 is much faster than the one in the 5, so computational photography should give an edge to the 4.
Will Google just reserve some proprietary algorithms for the 5? Or is there a secret graphics chip in the 5 that I haven't heard about?
They added a wide angle lense to the 5 as far as I've read.
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Isn't there 3 cameras on the back? On the leaks we can see 3 of them, at least I hope.
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Isn't there 3 cameras on the back? On the leaks we can see 3 of them, at least I hope.
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https://fdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/google/google-pixel-5-5g-1.jpg
2 lenses + 1 flash and one ir focus or laser?
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Same main sensor, but a wide angle instead of a zoom.
All of the software tricks should make their way to the P4, either through updates or via Cstark
If your only reason for upgrading is the camera then it's not worth it. The only reason I can think of to go from the Pixel 4 to the Pixel 5 is the bigger battery and getting the fingerprint sensor back.
I pre-ordered my Pixel 5 this morning but I'm coming from a Pixel 2 XL.
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If your only reason for upgrading is the camera then it's not worth it. The only reason I can think of to go from the Pixel 4 to the Pixel 5 is the bigger battery and getting the fingerprint sensor back.
I pre-ordered my Pixel 5 this morning but I'm coming from a Pixel 2 XL.
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I'm glad you said this. I just got the pixel 4 and love it. I don't care for the wide angle lense. The bigger battery would be nice but I get great battery life from my P4. I think I'll stick with the 4 until the 6 comes out.
Digital DJ said:
I'm glad you said this. I just got the pixel 4 and love it. I don't care for the wide angle lense. The bigger battery would be nice but I get great battery life from my P4. I think I'll stick with the 4 until the 6 comes out.
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I don't really care about the wide angle either. I'd much rather have the telephoto. I liked that the Pixel 4 had that but the way too small battery on both the Pixel 4 XL and especially the smaller Pixel 4 and the face unlock were deal breakers for me so I stuck with my Pixel 2 XL another year.
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I don't really care about the wide angle either. I'd much rather have the telephoto. I liked that the Pixel 4 had that but the way too small battery on both the Pixel 4 XL and especially the smaller Pixel 4 and the face unlock were deal breakers for me so I stuck with my Pixel 2 XL another year.
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Yes I rode my Pixel 2 XL for as long as I could but some of the apps I used responded to slowly on the GP2XL. I handed it down to my daughter. I love the pixel 4 and the face unlock is awesome. I will say that I got tired of carrying around a big cell phone in the 2xl. So the P4 is a perfect fit.
Having got a pixel 5 and 4xl I naturally compared some photos.
Pixel 5 seems to get white balance right more.
HOWEVER when you pixel peep right into a photo I find the 4xl shots have fractionally more detail rendered.
For example a tree on the horizon has more branches clearly defined on the 4xl
Text on a sign in the background or on books on a shelf are less blurred on the 4xl too.
Video is a bit better. Telephoto is handy but the quality isn't as good as the main camera. It also doesn't save at 16mp but 12mp.
For normal photos for me it's the same thing no matter the Pixel gen I use.
But already know this personal opinion before purchasing them
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Well for me I notice some fractional changes from model to model.
The pixel 5 however isn't producing quite as detailed shots as my 4xl when looking closely. Side by side it's identical until you pixel peep at the details.
The ultra wide isn't that good either. Tends to lack details and colour accuracy compared with the main camera.
The zoom is no way near as good as the 4xl.
In the end pixel 4 users be warned to consider not to 'upgrade' for the camera.
I'm waiting for the 6 and hope they upgrade the camera hardware.
Hi,
I had to choose between the OP8T and the Pixel 5. I come from the OP6.
Pixel 5:
Pros:
- Size
- Google Software (GCam + Pure Android) (I heard that the Pixel Base on CAF not AOSP. Is that ture?).
- Nice Support. (I got Problems with my Pixel 1 and I get first the replacement phone before I send my old back).
- Fingerprint sensor on the back and you can pull down the notificationbar
- Wireless-Charging
Contra:
- Just 18W Charger
- No 256Gb Version
- Lose a lot of nice Features (Hope the Pixel 6 will get smaller and updated sensors like project Soli)
I can not judge the Battery life. If the SD765 get 8-10h Screen-on-Time, I cant life without the SD865.
OP8T:
Pros:
- 65W Charger
- 256GB UFS 3.1 Storage
- SD 865
Contra
- No Wireless-Charging
- Never had contact with the OP Support, but I heard it's not good.
- Size, 6.0-6.3" would be perfect
What you guys think?
I have a Op8pro but i would go for the pixel5
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
The oneplus camera is also the same as the previous two versions. And being a op user myself for the past 4 years I would go for the pixel just because of poor camera performance in anything but the brightest light as well as the software.
Once your op device is over a year old they tend to give it lesser preference when it comes to updates. And that too many bugs. I have had to deal with op support on one occasion unfortunately and trust me you would not even want to deal with them should things go wrong!
Ultimately it is the user's preference what they would like to buy. It you are a very heavy gamer wanting to play the most intensive games at the highest frame rate then go with snapdragon 865. Mind it the 765 will also play them well but with the occasional drop in frame as mobile chipsets are already quite powerful. But if like most you are in for the day to day software experience and camera then go with the pixel.
Note that camera sensors have not improved that much for mobiles and that is why the Google pixel camera is still amongst the best though a few other manufacturers have caught up to theirs. This is evident on the oneplus as well since they too haven't changed their primary sensor since the past two years!
i got mine today! I have to say a very fine, beautiful device
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I have a Op8pro but i would go for the pixel5
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i just got my pixel 5 today and i am switching from my OnePlus 8 Pro
androidfreak11 said:
i just got my pixel 5 today and i am switching from my OnePlus 8 Pro
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Just curious.. why are you going to Pixel 5 from 8 Pro?
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The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
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And yet the camera performance is still very impressive., it is much better than it was on my 1+ 7t that's for sure.
I would most likely have gone with another oneplus if it weren't for the crap camera. 2 of the 4 cameras are utterly rubbish and the rest only perform satisfactory in good light. Any dark or tricky light conditions (UK weather) then damn!
Oneplus software used to be the closest to stock android experience before their latest update. Also once another 2 devices get released after a year then your device treatment becomes third class!
Levi4cyber said:
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
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Let me correct you:
Levi4cyber said:
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2, which is much better than the modern ones found on every OnePlus device!
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Levi4cyber said:
Also no 120Hz refresh rate (not that someone can distinguish between 90 and 120 hz).
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I switch from the OP6. But I have to choose between P5 and OP8T
Fun thing is that Google is using the same camera sensor for a long time indeed but it's so damn good!
After the Nexus days I've been a OnePlus fan until now..
I had the 6, 7, 7T pro and recently the Nord.
Last week i decided to but the 4a and i love it, my first point and shoot picture blew me away.. so much better then OnePlus without Gcam.
OnePlus is using the same 48mp sensor on many devices and it still sucks..
And updates are taking longer and longer and getting kind of useless.
The 4a got me thinking back off the time we had Nexus and i got excited again.
People keep telling themselves they need a 8 series cpu and believe me.. you don't.. at least most people won't.
The 765g is really great in everyway and even the 730g performs really well.
I also love the smaller size and i love being back on stock Android.
So the fact that pixel got more affordable, got smaller sizes but bigger batteries got me all hyped again and my 4a will go to my partner and i myself will probably buy a 5 next week.
The price difference with the 4a is big and that keeps me thinking but the differences make the device perfect for me.
So for me no 8T although it's a great device and price as well but again the same ****ty camera.
90 or even 60hz is enough for me, fast charging is awesome but not important.
And i love the smaller size so i don't want to go back to 6.5"
Hello everybody,
I am currently using a Pixel 4XL, which is still in perfect shape.
It is a great phone and i am loving it, however there are a few things that are starting to get annoying, mainly:
- face unlock is great, but we are wearing masks all the day out of home (and i think we will have to for many months)...so it is a pain to unlock the phone: i wish I had a fingerprint scanner like my previous Pixel 3a xl.
- battery life is quite terrible...i cannot use 90hz screen if i want some sort of decent battery life...seems like Pixel 4a xl is great for battery life.
- design and weight: Pixel 4 XL really weights more than 3a xl (and so 4a 5g). Pixel 4a 5g has the same screen real estate but is more compact.
- 64gb vs 128gb
Aspects that make me worry about the switch:
- i love taking a great amount of fast point and shoot pictures; i fear that Pixel 4a 5g will be considerably slower in processing many pictures taken in few seconds, since it has a slower processor and no dedicated core.
- screen quality: i think that Pixel 4a 5g has a great brightness level, but i don't know if screen quality can be a problem coming from 4 XL (4k vs fullhd). pixel 3a xl had a bad panel, it was one the main reason that forced me to change phone.
Someone here switched to Pixel 4 XL to Pixel 4a 5g?
I look forward to some opinions, thank You all!
Hey Pixel 5 owners, greetings from Ukraine!
I had been using Pixel 4A for quite a while, but the battery started draining fast, and even the battery replacement didn't help.
That's why I switched to Realme 9 Pro+, but sometimes I pick up my 4A, and it's much more pleasant to use for me even though Realme has better specs.
I'm considering going back to some Pixel, and since the Pixel 6 is bigger and heavier than I like (and looks like it's quite buggy), I'm thinking of buying a Pixel 5 having that nice plastic back with a rear-mounted fingerprint scanner I like. The size and weight are also great.
However, it's been two years since the Pixel 5 was released. Still relevant? Refurbished Pixel 5 vs. new Pixel 5?
Thank you!!
JetVoz said:
Hey Pixel 5 owners, greetings from Ukraine!
I had been using Pixel 4A for quite a while, but the battery started draining fast, and even the battery replacement didn't help.
That's why I switched to Realme 9 Pro+, but sometimes I pick up my 4A, and it's much more pleasant to use for me even though Realme has better specs.
I'm considering going back to some Pixel, and since the Pixel 6 is bigger and heavier than I like (and looks like it's quite buggy), I'm thinking of buying a Pixel 5 having that nice plastic back with a rear-mounted fingerprint scanner I like. The size and weight are also great.
However, it's been two years since the Pixel 5 was released. Still relevant? Refurbished Pixel 5 vs. new Pixel 5?
Thank you!!
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The Pixel 5 is no longer available new from Google. I bought mine new to replace my old Pixel 2, and it's been a solid phone. If you don't mind a slightly larger device with 6GB RAM vs 8GB, the 5a is a solid device, and has a higher capacity battery. Either way, both are very solid phones. I dislike the Pixel 6 so I won't be upgrading.
If you can find a good conditioned Pixel 5, absolutely!
I LOVE mine.
I was probably going to grab a Pixel 6a considering the Tensor chip and smaller size, but the 60Hz screen is a full on no-go for me. I mean hell, the Pixel 5 has a 90hz screen..
But yea if you don't mind a little bigger phone, the 5a looks promising.. I prefer the smaller sized screen on the 5 though.
I'll easily wait for the Pixel 7 to see if I like it. For now, the Pixel 5 is still getting me 10+ hours on a full charge. (lite user here..)
Stock ROM + AOSP MOds FTW.
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I'll easily wait for the Pixel 7 to see if I like it.
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thanks for sharing! That sounds like a plan... grabbing a P5 or P5A and waiting for the P7 reviews to decide on upgrading.