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[Q] {EVO4G}Skyrocket Vs. Note - Samsung speaker dealbreaker issue?

I'll definitely be checking out the Note when it arrives on the 19th as I think it will be my next handheld (unless MWC reveals some awesome devices soon) but I have some speakerphone concerns, hoping it won't be a dealbreaker..
I was in an AT&T store tonight & played with the Skyrocket & followed some of the advice mentioned in this thread to try to improve its speaker & it seemed loud enough, though not great fidelity yet the Skyrocket's speaker doesn't seem to be a dealbreaker (not sure how much those apps helped as I didn't have time to do on-off comparisions but it did seem louder). So is the Note's speaker at least as good & loud as the Skyrocket?
While I had the Skyrocket in my hand, I definitely felt like I could go bigger (the Skyrocket is not quite enough of an upgrade over my EVO 4G which has a surprisingly decent+loud speaker & a big reason why I chose the EVO over the original Nexus on its launch day), so I'm excited about checking out the SGNote as long as its speaker is not a dealbreaker..?
Would appreciate feedback on EVO4G-Skyrocket Vs. Note - Samsung speaker dealbreaker issue?
-Thanks
BTW, the AT&T guy is an acquaintance & he told me that the iPhone 4S still outsells any other phone in the store including the Skyrocket by 4x, he said it's one reason why they offer bundle promotions such as buy the Galaxy Tab 8.9" for ~$479 (on 2 yr contract @ at least $35/mo) & get a Skyrocket free (on 2 yr contract-at least another ~$80/mo for reasonable data plan). I told him that while the 8.9" Tab is nice, the SGNote has the same resolution without a need to carry around 2 devices..right?
P.S. - Any evidence yet that ICS improves pen input on the SGNote (from what I've seen it looks good enough but some lag sometimes etc)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II#Audio
"Audio
The Galaxy S II uses Yamaha audio hardware.[35] The Galaxy S II's predecessor, the original Galaxy S, used Wolfson's WM8994 DAC.[36] User feedback on Internet forums as well as an in-depth review at Clove,[35] have expressed the Yamaha chip's inferior sound quality compared to that of the Wolfson chip featured in the original Galaxy S."
So no one here considers the speaker on the SGNote a potential dealbreaker?
Still see mixed reviews online:
http://www.pcworld.in/product/review/samsung-galaxy-note-gt-n7000-59492011
"Cons Poor External Speaker
The Note's external speaker, though, is disappointingly weak."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/samsung-galaxy-note-review/
"The Note's speaker sure is loud, though Samsung hasn't pulled any magic tricks out of the hat here when it comes to audio quality. Do you like listening to music or watching movies through tinny desktop speakers? Well, then you might not mind the Note. There's nothing exceptional about the little tweeter inside here besides its volume, so you'll want to take advantage of that 3.5mm headphone jack whenever possible."
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/sm...form-factor-arrives-with-the-galaxy-note/4306
"I was happy to discover that the speaker on the Note is plenty loud. One complaint I had with the Nexus was its way-too-soft speaker; I had to install a volume booster app to get acceptable volume. There was no such problem with the Note, as I could hear its speaker even amidst the hustle and bustle of the CES showroom floor. Loud doesn’t necessarily mean spectacular sound quality, though — it’s a little tinny for listening to music or movies. However, I was spoiled by the Rezound with its Beats Audio and great earphones, so I might be biased."

Gee, no wonder. A brand new device on at&t network, the Galaxy note, and where do you find it? At the BOTTOM of the page, not the top. What's at the top? 2-3 year old iJunk. Also, when you walk into an at&t store, it's like walking
into an Apple store. If at&t promoted other devices, like they do iJunk, perhaps the other phones would have a chance. That, and you have the Lemmings that think the iJunk IS the status symbol to have, instead of a superior platform.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
BTW, the AT&T guy is an acquaintance & he told me that the iPhone 4S still outsells any other phone in the store including the Skyrocket by 4x,
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p51d007 said:
Gee, no wonder. A brand new device on at&t network, the Galaxy note, and where do you find it? At the BOTTOM of the page, not the top. What's at the top? 2-3 year old iJunk. Also, when you walk into an at&t store, it's like walking
into an Apple store. If at&t promoted other devices, like they do iJunk, perhaps the other phones would have a chance. That, and you have the Lemmings that think the iJunk IS the status symbol to have, instead of a superior platform.
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The AT&T store rep did say that many people were asking about the Note after the Super Bowl Ad. I think the Note even has the potential to convert my dad over from the iPhone though he did just upgrade to the 4S in December.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III specs also sound amazing if true
I guess I'll find out about the SGNote's speaker on the 19th unless owners here care to chime in sooner..

Truly wireless earbuds for the Note 8?

Which truly wireless earbuds are you using with the Note 8 and you would recommend? Looking to buy one.
Been eyeing the Beoplay E8. I am more concerned about audio fidelity (for a bluetooth device) over any other factors.

Praks93 said:
Which truly wireless earbuds are you using with the Note 8 and you would recommend? Looking to buy one.
Been eyeing the Beoplay E8. I am more concerned about audio fidelity (for a bluetooth device) over any other factors.
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The Beoplay E8 and Apple Airpods seem to be the best for the Note 8.
very good review of a few including the two above:
the guy named Jay does a solid comparison of the E8 and Airpods on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B074WTL19N/ref=mw_dp_cr

opasha said:
The Beoplay E8 and Apple Airpods seem to be the best for the Note 8.
very good review of a few including the two above:
the guy named Jay does a solid comparison of the E8 and Airpods on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B074WTL19N/ref=mw_dp_cr
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My concern is that he is testing all these using an iPhone. With the Note 8, even the codec being used changes. That is why I am looking for actual people using the Note 8 with wireless buds.

Praks93 said:
My concern is that he is testing all these using an iPhone. With the Note 8, even the codec being used changes. That is why I am looking for actual people using the Note 8 with wireless buds.
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He tested with note 8:
a few Amazon reviews have the note 8 in the link I posted comparing the E8 to Airpods.

Praks93 said:
My concern is that he is testing all these using an iPhone. With the Note 8, even the codec being used changes. That is why I am looking for actual people using the Note 8 with wireless buds.
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I've been using Beoplay E8's with Note 8 for the past 3 weeks and I've gotta say, I'm amazed! Audio quality is good, connection strong, and no issues so far. App lets you adjust audio and build is outstanding.

I've been using Gear Gear Iconx (2016) would love to upgrade to the 2017 model for better battery life.

I got the 2018 icon X. They can be paired with a device or even used without one. They sound good and have good touch controls.

I had the Icon X 2018, got them from B&H for $150, they were great at the beginning, but some annoynaces were like this:
1. No way to Power Off the buds without putting them back in the case, this means lots of charging/discharging the whole time.
2. Touch controls became finicky after about 2 weeks.
3. Totally subjective I know, but they hurt my ears, tried all combinations.
Back to Jaybird RUN, with latest FW Update the BT connection is rock solid, Volume is much higher than the IconX 2018, and the sound fidelity through the Jaybird App EQ settings is Superb to say the least, and I'm a musician so I know quality sound vs ... you know!

I just picked up the Blueant Pump Air.
Not bad at all and super light (4 grams)
http://www.myblueant.com/products/headphones/pumpair/

I have finally decided to pick up the E8. Once the Note 8 gets Oreo (which should be soon), i guess the lack of aptx will not matter much.
How is the audio delay when watching youtube videos with the latest firmware?
On a side note, there is Ashley Chloe's Fuse coming out soon. They have aptx and usb c charging! Would have considered them if they were to be available by mid february.

I have the Jabra elite sport and I really like them
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...tAQoQgcgCCEM&usg=AOvVaw2MG-SYwF_n8q6eGxk79VoA

Willy318is said:
I had the Icon X 2018, got them from B&H for $150, they were great at the beginning, but some annoynaces were like this:
1. No way to Power Off the buds without putting them back in the case, this means lots of charging/discharging the whole time.
2. Touch controls became finicky after about 2 weeks.
3. Totally subjective I know, but they hurt my ears, tried all combinations.
Back to Jaybird RUN, with latest FW Update the BT connection is rock solid, Volume is much higher than the IconX 2018, and the sound fidelity through the Jaybird App EQ settings is Superb to say the least, and I'm a musician so I know quality sound vs ... you know!
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1. They power off on their own when disconnected from blue tooth.
2. I've had them since Christmas and use them everyday. Touch controls work as good as they did when I got them. Not sure what exactly would make them "finicky" after working fine.
3. They literally have four different size pads. If you can't find a fit, then you got wonky ears lol.
Seems you quickly wrote off the IconX because you all ready had your mind made up. Which is fine, but let's be honest. The jaybird RUN is an icon X knockoff. And what's funny is I read more issues about the jaybird sounding bad and not fitting right. They even have the same pod case setup that Samsung uses. And surprise, surprise, they are just $15 less msrp than the icon X. You can tell they are trying to be the icon X. I'll just stick to the original that happens to also work seamlessly with my device. I'm also not sure what being a musician has to do with hearing sound quality, but hey, as long as you feel good about it...

I was looking at the B&O but ended up ordering the crazybaby nano off indiegogo mainly due to BT5 and future proofed.
These are shipping this month and the order is locked so have no doubt to question this date (as I am with other campaigns).

NONE OF THEM SOUND GOOD
you'd be disappointed.
i have the the bose one, bragi one

TheUndertaker21 said:
NONE OF THEM SOUND GOOD
you'd be disappointed.
i have the the bose one, bragi one
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IconX sound great.

Gizmoe said:
1. They power off on their own when disconnected from blue tooth.
2. I've had them since Christmas and use them everyday. Touch controls work as good as they did when I got them. Not sure what exactly would make them "finicky" after working fine.
3. They literally have four different size pads. If you can't find a fit, then you got wonky ears lol.
Seems you quickly wrote off the IconX because you all ready had your mind made up. Which is fine, but let's be honest. The jaybird RUN is an icon X knockoff. And what's funny is I read more issues about the jaybird sounding bad and not fitting right. They even have the same pod case setup that Samsung uses. And surprise, surprise, they are just $15 less msrp than the icon X. You can tell they are trying to be the icon X. I'll just stick to the original that happens to also work seamlessly with my device. I'm also not sure what being a musician has to do with hearing sound quality, but hey, as long as you feel good about it...
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Hey, do you have issues? or really really long free and boredom time at your hands?
You criticised and analyzed every bit of word that I wrote, as if you are the master of the world, and you know everything and that you are God of technology. Grow the f up dude, I was just sharing my experience peacefully, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I loved the IconX but preferred the Jaybird RUN at the end, end of story!

Let's not forget that the Truely wireless "thing" is still a new "thing" they will mature with time and provide better options than what we have now.
I have gone through a bunch of them - at the holiday -, and it was like you cannot just get all the PROS from all of them into 1 set, each had their pros and cons, like anything else.
I was expecting the Bose to be the top, but with their open-ended design, the sound was very shallow and thin, maybe it was made like this by design to provide ambiance awareness or sth., Elite Sport was great too.

Willy318is said:
Hey, do you have issues? or really really long free and boredom time at your hands?
You criticised and analyzed every bit of word that I wrote, as if you are the master of the world, and you know everything and that you are God of technology. Grow the f up dude, I was just sharing my experience peacefully, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I loved the IconX but preferred the Jaybird RUN at the end, end of story!
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Hey, I just didn't agree with you and I stated why. You are getting a bit heated over it. Relax... :thumbsup:

Could someone suggest one that won't cost me a kidney? Already sold my right kidney for Note 8. Jk but foreal nothing over $100? Now I could just search top ten earbuds for under $100. But I rather hear from someone who has the same phone as me. I've seen different results with headphones from 1 phone to a totally different phone.

Nick216ohio said:
Could someone suggest one that won't cost me a kidney? Already sold my right kidney for Note 8. Jk but foreal nothing over $100? Now I could just search top ten earbuds for under $100. But I rather hear from someone who has the same phone as me. I've seen different results with headphones from 1 phone to a totally different phone.
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Good wirefree headphones will be hard to find sub $100 since the tech is still new :/
If you are looking for good wired headphones, I'm using A-jays Five and Xiaomi Mi Headphones Pro HD and both are great for little money Jays sounds more natural and Mi sounds more bassy

Note 10+ features ported to Note 9

Hi
I wonder if some features of the Note 10+ could be ported to the Note 9
I believe that the features that dont depend on different or addicional hardware could be ported
E.G.
- Double tap to wake on system options (that wont mess up AoD)
- S Pen features such as Handwriting recognition or others (not the gestures part cause they depend on some addiocional hardware on the Note 9 S Pen, and also... they´re just weird *...)
- SuperSteady Video and Night Mode on front camera would be nice but i´m suspecting that those features might require different or addicional hardware
- Samsung DeX on Windows would also be nice to have...
These are a few of the features i would enjoy on my Note 9
What you guys think?
Do you believe that is better to make the upgrade?
Or you agree that some of the new features of the Note 10+ should be updated to the Note 9 from Samsung itself?
What features would you like to use on your Note 9?
RSGI
* - If you dont mind looking like Harry Potter while taking a picture outside... go ahead and upgrade

Have upgraded but I agree, a lot of the newer features are mostly software...
After the hoo-haa of the Note 10 release, probably 3 - 4 months away, the Note 9 should get a few of these features (those not dependent on the new hardware anyway)..
If not, Samsung is guilty of forcing you to upgrade simply for their financial gain.

ultramag69 said:
If not, Samsung is guilty of forcing you to upgrade simply for their financial gain.
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This is typical of all mobile device manufacturers. As that is the only way the can make a profit. Also all modern electronics are designed to fail within 2 years.

iceepyon said:
This is typical of all mobile device manufacturers. As that is the only way the can make a profit. Also all modern electronics are designed to fail within 2 years.
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Hey, I'm with my S5 since start of 2015 and it's still working fine Gonna upgrade to the 512 N9 tho.

ultramag69 said:
Have upgraded but I agree, a lot of the newer features are mostly software...
After the hoo-haa of the Note 10 release, probably 3 - 4 months away, the Note 9 should get a few of these features (those not dependent on the new hardware anyway)..
If not, Samsung is guilty of forcing you to upgrade simply for their financial gain.
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Forcing? Seriously? What an entitled generation! Samsung pays for that software to be developed. You can pay for it too! They aren't forcing you to do anything. Profit is good. It drives innovation.

koragg97 said:
Hey, I'm with my S5 since start of 2015 and it's still working fine Gonna upgrade to the 512 N9 tho.
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My old Note 4 N910C is working perfectly as well. However recently I have been having issues getting a decent signal with HK Cell Providers, which is what forced me to upgrade to the Note 8.

gruuvin said:
Forcing? Seriously? What an entitled generation! Samsung pays for that software to be developed. You can pay for it too! They aren't forcing you to do anything. Profit is good. It drives innovation.
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I would pay them to use the features on my Note 9.
But I will never buy a phone without headphone jack and a punchout hole.

I'd really like the screen recorder software on the note 10+ to be ported to the note 9!
I recieved my note 10+ yesterday and its really not impressing me. It feels a little off for some reason. Maybe because the power button being on the left side? I can't quite place my distaste for this phone.
I find my fingers getting in the way of the camera quite easily. And the front facing camera, not sure if I'd ever get use to that. Every time I make/recieve a call all I see is that camera about to goto my ear and it feels like my ear is about to be violated by a doctor with a telephoto stethoscope?
Enough of that though! Yes, the screen recorder definitely needs to come to the note 9.

Shad0wsabr3 said:
I'd really like the screen recorder software on the note 10+ to be ported to the note 9!
I recieved my note 10+ yesterday and its really not impressing me. It feels a little off for some reason. Maybe because the power button being on the left side? I can't quite place my distaste for this phone.
I find my fingers getting in the way of the camera quite easily. And the front facing camera, not sure if I'd ever get use to that. Every time I make/recieve a call all I see is that camera about to goto my ear and it feels like my ear is about to be violated by a doctor with a telephoto stethoscope?
Enough of that though! Yes, the screen recorder definitely needs to come to the note 9.
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You can get native screen recording with good Lock using the nice shot module.

Isn't it a bit like you would have to buy a new PC every time windows comes with a new feature or something?
Anyway, I can search handwritten notes and also extract text, so I think Note9 already has Handwriting recognition? Maybe it's build in the the Note app itself?

Chaos Engine said:
I would pay them to use the features on my Note 9.
But I will never buy a phone without headphone jack and a punchout hole.
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I agree! Neither would I. I'll use a Note9 for as long as possible, and if Samsung doesn't smarten up, this will be my last Samsung. No headphone jack was a retarded Apple idea that Samsung follows like lemmings off a cliff.

gruuvin said:
I agree! Neither would I. I'll use a Note9 for as long as possible, and if Samsung doesn't smarten up, this will be my last Samsung. No headphone jack was a retarded Apple idea that Samsung follows like lemmings off a cliff.
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To be fair Samsung has been following Apple for a long time.

dave678 said:
To be fair Samsung has been following Apple for a long time.
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Yep. No replaceable battery. No sdcard. But they brought back the sdcard, then brought in the dumb curved edges. Removing the headphone jack goes too far. I won't buy another Samsung if I cannot connect my headphones.

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Yep. No replaceable battery. No sdcard. But they brought back the sdcard, then brought in the dumb curved edges. Removing the headphone jack goes too far. I won't buy another Samsung if I cannot connect my headphones.
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The curved display, while a little annoying, isn't so bad, you can get used to it --- my only huge complaint about it is that it makes cases a nightmare because you can't physically reach the edges of the screen thanks to the design of most cases... (Although arguably if you don't drop the phone you really don't need a case today thanks to the super-hard gorilla glass, I'm just paranoid from so many years of " just look at the phone to hard and it'll get a scratch" --- the one and only feature that flip phones really were a better design)
Also, I think I saw somewhere that one version of the Note 10 actually loses the SD card once again in favor of dual SIMs instead... (though that could be for specific markets where it's more popular like Asia)
I agree on the headphone jack - I actually spend considerable money on good headphones (both my main PC headphones and my phone headset are Sennheiser) because you simply cannot get the same quality from Bluetooth yet (not to mention that is one more device to remember to charge --- though when/if they could get charging as quick as the Spen I'd forgive that, I'd even give up longer listening times if I could just hold the headphones against the back of the device for 30 seconds to get an hour of listening time)
And here's a disturbing thought --- Is the removal of the headphone jack just a step towards removing ALL wired peripheral support? I mean we have wireless charging now, and wireless headphones/headsets, not to mention wireless keyboards/mouse and wireless displays (albeit with slow refresh time and/or high lag) so arguably they could "justify" removing the USB port as well to claim "now it's 100% sealed so it's more waterproof!" while, in reality, making it that much harder to root the phone (and conveniently making wireless peripherals "only work best with Samsung brands" like the Samsung's wireless earbuds)?

gruuvin said:
Yep. No replaceable battery. No sdcard. But they brought back the sdcard, then brought in the dumb curved edges. Removing the headphone jack goes too far. I won't buy another Samsung if I cannot connect my headphones.
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Move on, who uses wired headphones anyway? It is more and more as cliche.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Move on, who uses wired headphones anyway? It is more and more as cliche.
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Lots of people use wired headphones. And lots of people are not buying devices because they lack a 3m5mm audio jack.
But, Go on and toe the line for device manufactures though, who are simply doing this the cut costs and make waterproof certification easier.

Bober_is_a_troll said:
Lots of people use wired headphones. And lots of people are not buying devices because they lack a 3m5mm audio jack.
But, Go on and toe the line for device manufactures though, who are simply doing this the cut costs and make waterproof certification easier.
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Well it's not like if technology shouldn't advance. I'm not saying the Jack has to go right now, but at some point it will need to. Could you imagine if digital cameras today still required a roll of film to use in some way?
Now instead of buying a roll of film, you buy an sdcard. Instead of buying wires, you buy wireless. Instead of using fax, you can now email.
All advances my friends, all advances. And yes a company has to cut cost because....
Say it with me...
"All businesses are in the business of making money!"
Hey look at it this way though. At least the phone comes with wireless Airbuds that IT can charge. Now that's tech! I can't charge any other damn thing in my house without plugging it in, yet that thing can charge music transporters?!
Think about that for a second...

Jammol said:
Well it's not like if technology shouldn't advance. I'm not saying the Jack has to go right now, but at some point it will need to. Could you imagine if digital cameras today still required a roll of film to use in some way?
Now instead of buying a roll of film, you buy an sdcard. Instead of buying wires, you buy wireless. Instead of using fax, you can now email.
All advances my friends, all advances. And yes a company has to cut cost because....
Say it with me...
"All businesses are in the business of making money!"
Hey look at it this way though. At least the phone comes with wireless Airbuds that IT can charge. Now that's tech! I can't charge any other damn thing in my house without plugging it in, yet that thing can charge music transporters?!
Think about that for a second...
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OEM's put headphone jacks on phones back in the days of the flip phone. Now everyone is just copying Apple becasue it's so trendy. The jack will never be obsolete lol. Sure, IR and a jack connector are “old tech”. The launch date of the tech is not the relevant factor. What matters is whether these technologies remain in installed use. Most PA systems, projectors, TVs, air cons etc installed and in use in hotels, meeting rooms, schools, clubs and so on use these technologies.
So if you want to interface with them, you need those technologies.
I just love it when all these bleeding edge people with their bleeding edge gizmos discover that it takes an old fuddy-duddy with a proper ‘workhorse’ phone to be able to get the projector switched on before business can commence.

Jammol said:
Well it's not like if technology shouldn't advance. I'm not saying the Jack has to go right now, but at some point it will need to. Could you imagine if digital cameras today still required a roll of film to use in some way?
Now instead of buying a roll of film, you buy an sdcard. Instead of buying wires, you buy wireless. Instead of using fax, you can now email.
All advances my friends, all advances. And yes a company has to cut cost because....
Say it with me...
"All businesses are in the business of making money!"
Hey look at it this way though. At least the phone comes with wireless Airbuds that IT can charge. Now that's tech! I can't charge any other damn thing in my house without plugging it in, yet that thing can charge music transporters?!
Think about that for a second...
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How idiodic to compare going from film to SD cards.. a clear improvement,both in terms of speed and reusability.
While on the other hand going from wired headphones with no audio quality loss,no batteries to recharge, and most importantly, NO BATTERIES TO RECHARGE.
Wireless headphones are useless for many people, including those who ride streetbikes and put headphones I. While riding. Good luck getting wireless headphones to fit under a helmet without turning your ears Into Swiss cheese, and hopefully you don't go out for more than 4 hours at a time, otherwise, no music 4 u!
It's not an "advancement". You don't need to remove the headphone jack to have the ability to use wireless headphones.
Say it with me one more time.... The lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack is just a way for companies to cut costs and make waterproof certification easier. It has nothing to do with "technology advancing". It's the same reason that only the note 4 had a IR blaster and then they stopped that. It was an incredibly useful feature that was cut to make more $$$. Samsung is doing it's best to put me on a xaomi or huwaie phone. Currently they seem to be the best phones on the market when you look at features vs price.
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OEM's put headphone jacks on phones back in the days of the flip phone. Now everyone is just copying Apple becasue it's so trendy. The jack will never be obsolete lol. Sure, IR and a jack connector are “old tech”. The launch date of the tech is not the relevant factor. What matters is whether these technologies remain in installed use. Most PA systems, projectors, TVs, air cons etc installed and in use in hotels, meeting rooms, schools, clubs and so on use these technologies.
So if you want to interface with them, you need those technologies.
I just love it when all these bleeding edge people with their bleeding edge gizmos discover that it takes an old fuddy-duddy with a proper ‘workhorse’ phone to be able to get the projector switched on before business can commence.
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But, but, my phone has a 98% screen to bezel ratio! It's certainly better!

dave678 said:
OEM's put headphone jacks on phones back in the days of the flip phone. Now everyone is just copying Apple becasue it's so trendy. The jack will never be obsolete lol. Sure, IR and a jack connector are “old tech”. The launch date of the tech is not the relevant factor. What matters is whether these technologies remain in installed use. Most PA systems, projectors, TVs, air cons etc installed and in use in hotels, meeting rooms, schools, clubs and so on use these technologies.
So if you want to interface with them, you need those technologies.
I just love it when all these bleeding edge people with their bleeding edge gizmos discover that it takes an old fuddy-duddy with a proper ‘workhorse’ phone to be able to get the projector switched on before business can commence.
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Bober_is_a_troll said:
How idiodic to compare going from film to SD cards.. a clear improvement,both in terms of speed and reusability.
While on the other hand going from wired headphones with no audio quality loss,no batteries to recharge, and most importantly, NO BATTERIES TO RECHARGE.
Wireless headphones are useless for many people, including those who ride streetbikes and put headphones I. While riding. Good luck getting wireless headphones to fit under a helmet without turning your ears Into Swiss cheese, and hopefully you don't go out for more than 4 hours at a time, otherwise, no music 4 u!
It's not an "advancement". You don't need to remove the headphone jack to have the ability to use wireless headphones.
Say it with me one more time.... The lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack is just a way for companies to cut costs and make waterproof certification easier. It has nothing to do with "technology advancing". It's the same reason that only the note 4 had a IR blaster and then they stopped that. It was an incredibly useful feature that was cut to make more $$$. Samsung is doing it's best to put me on a xaomi or huwaie phone. Currently they seem to be the best phones on the market when you look at features vs price.
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But, but, my phone has a 98% screen to bezel ratio! It's certainly better!
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Why do I get the idea that neither of you took my post for the sarcasm sections that it had.??? Well it is somewhat difficult to portray over text with giveaways. ?
Well I guess I have to be serious about my post then.
First guy, Dave, cool man, yes those technologies are everywhere, the systems advanced to where they got so that they can be utilized everywhere. Wireless tech is advancing as well. BMW has a car that can be charged wirelessly. Think of all the other tech that could be charged wirelessly in the future. Or what other advancements they can make based off that tech. Wait, why am I even talking about this? None of the TVs in my house have RGB connectors, and they said that's the best visual experience we could get. Now we have wireless 4k.
As for the troll guy, I am starting to think you might be the troll. Or you're just really hotheaded. You started your reply with calling my comparison idiotic. And you want an intelligent response from people? Nowhere in my post did I use inflamatory or disrespectful language, but in this one you'll get the feeling.
The point of my post was to show a logical reason for killing the headphone Jack. I even stated it shouldn't be killed right now, but no, you decided to skip over that first opening slice. I went on to agree with you on the fact that yes, they are doing it to cut cost. Hence "all businesses are in the business of making money!" Cause you know, people like money and companies have people in them. A shareholder's goal is to make as much money as possible so that the company keeps making money. Yes cut costs to save money. Hey look I was still agreeing with you.
You all sound like a bunch of old folks who don't like change. If you don't like the direction a company is going, buy some shares and be on the board of decision makers. If not, don't buy their devices. Or....go make your own.
Things will change with or without you, so either accept it or continue to feel bitter about old tech, yes OLD TECH, I SAID IT!!!
I need to stay off the internet at night. I seem to get into some weird stuff.
By the way, while y'all are *****ing about the 3.5mm headphone jack and missing it oh so much, Flynt Michigan STILL doesn't have clean water fam. STILL!??
TALK ABOUT LACK OF ADVANCEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY!

Galaxy buds

Is anyone using Galaxy Buds with their P30 pro? I've just switched from the Galaxy S10+ and I've found that when I use the galaxy buds with the P30 pro I'm getting really poor call quality on the receiver's end. Sounds fine for me, but people on the other end say they have trouble hearing me and that I sound like I'm underwater. When I switch back to the S10+ then my calls sound normal again. Anyone else experiencing this issue, or have any suggestions?

I think the issue is the buds itself i read about that issue with other phones as well. There supposed to some updates from Samsung to improve the quality. I have one myself I don't mind the audio for listening it's pretty decent however the call quality is crap a lot of feed back. I don't really care to be honest since i only use it mostly for music. I really like it for the comfort and case size it's nice and small compared to others. Could there be improvements for sure. But you'll probably need to pay a higher price if you want something better overall. But even with the expensive ones that I've seen the casing way to big for me. To be honest i'm eyeing on the Google buds waiting for those one to be available like to see how good they are.

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Is anyone using Galaxy Buds with their P30 pro? I've just switched from the Galaxy S10+ and I've found that when I use the galaxy buds with the P30 pro I'm getting really poor call quality on the receiver's end. Sounds fine for me, but people on the other end say they have trouble hearing me and that I sound like I'm underwater. When I switch back to the S10+ then my calls sound normal again. Anyone else experiencing this issue, or have any suggestions?
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Been using buds with mine for months now, absolutely no issues! I use it mainly for phone calls and never heard anyone complain even outdoors.

kienerman said:
I think the issue is the buds itself i read about that issue with other phones as well. There supposed to some updates from Samsung to improve the quality. I have one myself I don't mind the audio for listening it's pretty decent however the call quality is crap a lot of feed back. I don't really care to be honest since i only use it mostly for music. I really like it for the comfort and case size it's nice and small compared to others. Could there be improvements for sure. But you'll probably need to pay a higher price if you want something better overall. But even with the expensive ones that I've seen the casing way to big for me. To be honest i'm eyeing on the Google buds waiting for those one to be available like to see how good they are.
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That's the strange thing though, they sound fine when I pair them with the S10+, it's only when I pair them with the P30 pro that the call quality sucks, which doesn't really make sense to me. I'll try them out with a couple more devices to see whether it's the buds themselves that don't play well with non-Samsung devices or whether it's the P30 pro that doesn't like them.

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That's the strange thihttps://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p30-prong though, they sound fine when I pair them with the S10+, it's only when I pair them with the P30 pro that the call quality sucks, which doesn't really make sense to me. I'll try them out with a couple more devices to see whether it's the buds themselves that don't play well with non-Samsung devices or whether it's the P30 pro that doesn't like them.
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I'm just going though the thread myself looks like everyone is complaining a lot about similar issues and other issues.
us.community.samsung.com/t5/Gear-and-Gear-Fit/Galaxy-Buds-terrible-Bluetooth-interference
if you want to google that

I have had same problem on my p30 pro and friends one plus 7 pro. I sold them cuz there is obviously some problem when using them with non sams phone. Thats my conclusion

Question Mic bad quality

Hi, just yesterday i bought a realme gt2 global version. I have been testing all the functions and it works perfectly, but in particular the quality of its microphone is horrible. I do not know if it is only my unit or if it happens in all units. Does anyone know something? Thanks

Oh man, hoping it is just yours - when I receive mine I will be able to confirm but I will likely only receive it end of the month / early April.

I noticed the same on some youtube video camera samples, in videos it sounds muffled. Do you mean call quality is bad too?

Same here. Compared with GT Neo 2 this GT2 mic is worse!

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I noticed the same on some youtube video camera samples, in videos it sounds muffled. Do you mean call quality is bad too?
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Yep, calle quality is bad too... Im going to return my unit...

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Oh man, hoping it is just yours - when I receive mine I will be able to confirm but I will likely only receive it end of the month / early April.
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Good luck... It seems is on all units...

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Yep, calle quality is bad too... Im going to return my unit...
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May I ask which one are you going to buy?

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May I ask which one are you going to buy?
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I think im between a Realme GT neo 2 (It has a good mic, but bad cameras....) or a Oneplus 9 Pro on 550€ (second hand but almost like new)... Its a shame, i was really happy with my GT2, but im going to hate not being able to send a WhatsApp audio with good quality...

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I think im between a Realme GT neo 2 (It has a good mic, but bad cameras....) or a Oneplus 9 Pro on 550€ (second hand but almost like new)... Its a shame, i was really happy with my GT2, but im going to hate not being able to send a WhatsApp audio with good quality...
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In the tests that I have tried the Neo2 was better, but a little better. Taking into account the section of the cameras (the main one of the Neo2 is much worse than the imx766) and that it is from last year and will stop receiving updates a year before,… For my part, I would wait for the Neo3 or the Poco F4 to assess changing it. It is true that the price of the GT2 is a bit high compared to the Neo2, but if you have bought it on sale I think it is a good purchase, since the camera alone is worth about ~120$.
I also think that it is very valid for sending audio and talking on the phone, it may not be the best microphone but it defends itself. Maybe it can be fixed in an update (who knows?).

Sigh, this is really frustrating. I wonder if the Pro has the same issue?
So if one is on a phone, not on loudspeaker is it an issue or only if on loudspeaker?
WhatsApp voice notes not great quality either, not ideal. Wonder if an update would fix it although I'm assuming not.

Is there anyway to submit feedback to Realme? I'm hoping this is software, seems like such a dumb mistake or stupid place to cut corners

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In this test video you can hear that the mic is very tinny... But it doesn't seem all too bad.
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Yes, couldn't agree more...

I just received my device and the microphone doesn't sound bad!
I was prepared to send it back because of the mic but that isn't the case.

I have the global version and a quick comparison against my OP 5T its much worse. Theres background noise and it sounds muffled on the GT2 whereas my old phone sounds very clear compared to it.
This with the notification issue a few other people are having I may have to send it back

I just tested the mic and yeah it's not as good as my previous phone but it's not that bad.
Judging by what I've heard the problem is in the audio bit rate, realme for some reason keeps lauching phones with 96kbps instead of the minimum 192 or even 320kb.
Let's see if with the next updates they fix it. The march update is late by the way. Still on february security patch.

Hi! New owner of the GT2, having the same issue. I've reporter it here: https://c.realme.com/in/post-details/1511645176815226880 , don't know if is the right place, but let's hope... Also, please report, maybe it will be fixed.

I did something to test if it's a hardware problem or software related. You can check different audio types of recording using Open Camera from Google Play. In Open Camera there is an option to change the audio by going to Settings, Video settings..., Audio source, and chose which sounds better to you. So, lets hope for an update from realme or for a way to root and manualy fix this.

As I've said before my suspicions are correct, it's the software.
I recorded videos in different audio sources and they all sound **** but in Unprocessed mode it sounds clean as it can be, the only problem is the volume, it's very quiet and there's white noise.
They have to tweak the noise supression algorithm. It sounds like my headset microphone without post processing (noise supression, echo cancelation) my voice sounds correct but there's white noise and keyboard/mouse are audible.
With it enabled, I sound more "artificial" but the background noises are supressed.
And of course increase the bit rate, it's at 93kb. Lol

Such a pitty phones have soo many bugs and issues now a days.
I ended up getting a refund on my GT2as the store could not get the global version and then purchased a OnePlus 9RT. Seems I may have dodged a bullet and skipped owning a buggy phone.
My GFs Redmi Note 10 Pro also had issues with the mic and proximity sensor. Great phone otherwise, but makes it frustrating for her to use.
Hopefully Realme fix the issue.

Was looking forward to buy this. First, the screen quality issue. Next, this mic issue. As tech experts say, 'Dont buy a phone with issues, hoping about future updates'. Might have to drop this phone, and buy GT Neo 3.