Hi all,
Is anyone facing an issue with google play services draining the battery...I get so angry when I see that damn app draining my battery...the battery stats says it's running in the background...why, I don't know! It's recent phenomenon and has been running since the past 20hrs or so...how do I solve this? I'm not sure cleaning the data/ cache would be ideal as this would only lead to more drain since play services will try to download all the info that it has previously....any help will be greatly appreciated!
So 1% battery loss from a system service running for 20 hours in the background is a big problem...?
I'm a bit confused here...
NippleSauce said:
So 1% battery loss from a system service running for 20 hours in the background is a big problem...?
I'm a bit confused here...
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Actually, it's a bit more than 1%...more like 23% over the past 6 days or so...here's the screenshot...I don't know if this apt battery usage or if google play services need to be given a knock on its head...
amirage said:
Actually, it's a bit more than 1%...more like 23% over the past 6 days or so...here's the screenshot...I don't know if this apt battery usage or if google play services need to be given a knock on its head...
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Ah, so 0.16% battery per hour. So a bit more than normal. What version of the phone do you have (which processor) and what apps do you have installed that weren't listed?
Also, how do you keep charging your phone so slightly as shown in the picture?
Oh yes, GPlayS will eat up the battery...
Download Karma Firewall and block Google Play Services. It may be shown by it's UID, on my 10+ it's 10044.
You can unblock it as needed like for Gmail or Playstore (block Playstore as well*).
Block Android Services as well, UID 1000.
It's pretty useless but polls the internet 2 times every minute, GPlayS is 4 times a minute.
On Pie Karma's logging feature works so I can see what each apk is doing or not... Q and up sucks.
*disable if you have a package blocker except when needed. A reboot is required and GPS must be unblocked too for Playstore.
Clear Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework data as well. Best to disable the latter two. Someone told the latter two aren't present in Q... I can't verify that either way.
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Ah, so 0.15972% battery per hour. So a bit more than normal. What version of the phone do you have and what apps do you have installed that weren't listed?
Also, how do you keep charging your phone so slightly as shown in the picture?
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Hi, I have the 21Ultra 12/256. The funny thing is that play services started acting up only lately...I have been using the phone for 1 week+ and this app starting going berserk just 20 hours ago! It's very likely a rogue update could have caused this issue and I'm sure if I uninstall the update all should be fine...let me do that and see how it performs...
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Hi, I have the 21Ultra 12/256. The funny thing is that play services started acting up only lately...I have been using the phone for 1 week+ and this app starting going berserk just 20 hours ago! It's very likely a rogue update could have caused this issue and I'm sure if I uninstall the update all should be fine...let me do that and see how it performs...
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My AT&T Note 10+ did the same thing and it wasn't an update that triggered it.
Power management was part of the problem.
I run now with all power management disabled except for fast charging and Optimized screen/cpu setting.
When I turn this phone off it goes into deep sleep...
blackhawk said:
My AT&T Note 10+ did the same thing and it wasn't an update that triggered it.
Power management was part of the problem.
I run now with all power management disabled except for fast charging and Optimized screen/cpu setting.
When I turn this phone off it goes into deep sleep...
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Power management, you refer to the ones that show in the battery settings right? But I don't know how the battery power management settings relate to google play services drain...I have betterbatterystats and it shows that google play is the top most draining app...why I can't understand...
I have a feeling it's the feb update that's messing with the battery settings..Jan update was cool...is there a way to roll back to update before AUB6?
Here's an update...I uninstalled the updates to google play services and cleared the cache. Rebooted...and all's going well so far.
Definitely try out the suggestions made by @destz0r in the video that he left. I guess that I don't ever experience the same problem as I always leave location services disabled unless I'm directly using them for navigation. But I never would've guessed that GPS occasionally leads to more GPlay Service specific battery consumption (as I had thought that GPlay Services were primarily for inner-Google app data communication)...
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Definitely try out the suggestions made by @destz0r in the video that he left. I guess that I don't ever experience the same problem as I always leave location services disabled unless I'm directly using them for navigation. But I never would've guessed that GPS occasionally leads to more GPlay Service specific battery consumption (as I had thought that GPlay Services were primarily for inner-Google app data communication)...
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I already had all those suggestions in place right at the time of setting up the device initially..but yes, uninstalling the play services update cleared the issue...for the moment...
amirage said:
Power management, you refer to the ones that show in the battery settings right? But I don't know how the battery power management settings relate to google play services drain...I have betterbatterystats and it shows that google play is the top most draining app...why I can't understand...
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Power management seems to create conflicts after a few days running. GooglePS includes Backup Transport and Framework. Even when turned off they continue to run in the background on my device.
Play with it, see what you find but don't ignore and let this trashware toast your battery.
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I am having this issue in EVERY ROM I use. Thought it might be caused by Google Now Launcher, but it isn't. What is going on???
Maybe try a different Gapps package? I use TK's Nano package and havent seen high GP battery usage.
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I am having this issue in EVERY ROM I use. Thought it might be caused by Google Now Launcher, but it isn't. What is going on???
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There is a thread about disable Google Play services.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2999821
And: settings - Data usage - <per app setting>
Restrict app background data
Must be a rom, gapps or dirty installation problem cause doesn't happen on stock 5.1.1.
Got an Android Wear device connected?
first off, 3% used for google play services with that amount of use is not much, as is not an issue, at all. if you showed something like 15%+, id say yea, that a bit much for battery use..
simms22 said:
first off, 3% used for google play services with that amount of use is not much, as is not an issue, at all. if you showed something like 15%+, id say yea, that a bit much for battery use..
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Yup. Get an IPhone and won't have that problem.
Sometimes sync causes a problem for me when it comes to the wakelock, but then again my university's Wifi is set up weird so drains my battery for some reason and usually makes gapps act up. Anyways, manually managing sync seems to have decreased my google play services battery useage about 4% on an average charge.
Got the phone at launch and the battery was brilliant, 5 hours SOT no problems. But the last couple of months Google Play Services has been killing my battery. I've tried everything I could think, removing location permissions for all apps, disabling bloat, installed PDP to go that extra step further on apps that wouldn't allow it. Factory reset, cache wipe, I've done it all. Yet still, Play Services is ruining my phone, of the 10% I've lost so far in my 45 minuntes of being awake, Play Services accounts for 5% of that. I've gone through every individual app to see if any have a matching battery usage that doesn't show in the battery usage section under battery, but none do, not even close. I am at my wits end with this, it's ruining a truly fantastic phone.
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Got the phone at launch and the battery was brilliant, 5 hours SOT no problems. But the last couple of months Google Play Services has been killing my battery. I've tried everything I could think, removing location permissions for all apps, disabling bloat, installed PDP to go that extra step further on apps that wouldn't allow it. Factory reset, cache wipe, I've done it all. Yet still, Play Services is ruining my phone, of the 10% I've lost so far in my 45 minuntes of being awake, Play Services accounts for 5% of that. I've gone through every individual app to see if any have a matching battery usage that doesn't show in the battery usage section under battery, but none do, not even close. I am at my wits end with this, it's ruining a truly fantastic phone.
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Have you tried not disabling things? Seen quite a few reports here where disabling some bloat actually led to higher standby drain, Google Play services drain, etc.
sefrcoko said:
Have you tried not disabling things? Seen quite a few reports here where disabling some bloat actually led to higher standby drain, Google Play services drain, etc.
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I haven't....I'll factory reset and give that a try. At this stage I've lost track of everything I've turned off lol. Thanks for the heads up
Try using wakelock detector, greenify, GSam or betterbatterystats to check what wakelocks are causing drain.
sefrcoko said:
Have you tried not disabling things? Seen quite a few reports here where disabling some bloat actually led to higher standby drain, Google Play services drain, etc.
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Yeah I had to reset my device and start all over going as far as Odin. Anything I disabled using BK Disabler didn't start working even after the factory reset, so I had to Odin firmware on the device. Prime one being Bixby. No matter what I did she would not work at all. Was like if the button was a dummy.
Battery life with things disabled was garbage. Either Samsung had a "lie to me" thing going with this device or the services related to those disabled things, are actively trying to enable them, causing the battery to drain.
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Yeah I had to reset my device and start all over going as far as Odin. Anything I disabled using BK Disabler didn't start working even after the factory reset, so I had to Odin firmware on the device. Prime one being Bixby. No matter what I did she would not work at all. Was like if the button was a dummy.
Battery life with things disabled was garbage. Either Samsung had a "lie to me" thing going with this device or the services related to those disabled things, are actively trying to enable them, causing the battery to drain.
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Yes the posts I read specifically mentioned Bixby (among a few other apps), so I tend to agree that something Sammy has done results in exactly what you said...when those apps are disabled the phone keeps trying to enable them causing added and unexpected drain. Hope the reflash worked out for you (and OP as well). I think it will
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Yes the posts I read specifically mentioned Bixby (among a few other apps), so I tend to agree that something Sammy has done results in exactly what you said...when those apps are disabled the phone keeps trying to enable them causing added and unexpected drain. Hope the reflash worked out for you (and OP as well). I think it will
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Yeah reflash is what fixed mine. I'm currently experimenting with completely removing the apps and related services on a rooted Rom BlueFox made.
After updating to 9.1.0.252 I noticed faster battery drain. Did any of you experience the same behavior? I'm thinking to go back to 9.0.1.
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I feel the same
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Don't forget that our device/battery is getting older with every update?.
It might look like new but mine is already 2 years in use.
naissguy said:
After updating to 9.1.0.252 I noticed faster battery drain. Did any of you experience the same behavior? I'm thinking to go back to 9.0.1.
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I noticed faster battery drain on my ltr-09 as well. All is fine now. I noticed when i first upgraded location was turning on alot almost like it was learning when to turn on. Then it levelled out. Example opening google now at first it always turned on my gps now it doesnt. When i was on 9.01 i left my phone on battery saving for gps. You cant on 9.1 and i have seen alot of apps that used to be good with battery saving location now going for full with gps. Big bttery drain. Those were the differences i found. What I believe solved my battery drain was actually my battery getting all screwed up. I had this happen when i would switch roms and my battery stats would get all messed up. I solved it before and solved it this time with my p10 by running the thing right dead. Then pluging it in overnight with it turned off (no fast charging) Then I did it again the next night drained to dead , plug in charge with off ( no supercharging) and my battery life is better again. Hope this helps. EDIT After a few days of testing i still felt the battery was better but battery life still wasnt right. I did a factory installed minimal apps. Battery life was good until play store updated carrier services. I uninstalled updates to carrier services, disabled auto update. Then i actually disabled carrier services completely. Battery seems good now. From what i read carrier services is for next gen texting. Saw online others were having issues with this update.
djg269 said:
Don't forget that our device/battery is getting older with every update.
It might look like new but mine is already 2 years in use.
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Wrong, batteries get older with time and charging cycles. Updates have nothing to do with it and if you notice a drain right after one - it has nothing to do with the condition of the battery, it's the update's fault.
updates are huawei's way to convince you to buy a new phone
first they borked the camera, now they are messing with battery
I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
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naissguy said:
I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
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I have ran a couple of days with very good battery life. 11.5 hrs with 62 percent left. Seems like it used to be with Oreo. Overview of all I did was as follows. Clear cache partition, factory reset . Uninstalled Google Chrome (used Firefox instead) set carrier service to factory in apps three dots advanced. Disabled automatic update of carrier services in play store, then in settings apps disabled carrier services completely. Went through and disabled network access to every app that doesn't need it. I don't use Facebook or Facebook Messenger apps. I use them through my browser. Oddly chome on pie is a battery killer as well. I'm very satisfied with proformance of my P10 again.
My GPS is pretty much always off (unless I really need it) and the battery level still goes down by 9% during the night. It used to be 3-4%.
I cannot find carrier service anywhere.
In my case I can't see power hungry apps in the stats, standby process uses the most energy.
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My GPS is pretty much always off (unless I really need it) and the battery level still goes down by 9% during the night. It used to be 3-4%.
I cannot find carrier service anywhere.
In my case I can't see power hungry apps in the stats, standby process uses the most energy.
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Settings, apps, apps again, select three dots in upper right, select show system processes. You will find it there it's a little hidden lol.
Still no carrier services for Play Store.
Is this normal battery drain for Google play services? It seems a bit high to me. I have turned off some of the syncing for my accounts and location is off.
Kelari said:
Is this normal battery drain for Google play services? It seems a bit high to me. I have turned off some of the syncing for my accounts and location is off.
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I have the same problem (ww firmware), the usage seems to be very high even if Google Play Services is known to be draining battery. Even if I disabled GPS usage related to some of my apps, the problem seems to be somewhere else. Will try with Better Battery Stats to see if I can find the culprit.
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I have the same problem (ww firmware), the usage seems to be very high even if Google Play Services is known to be draining battery. Even if I disabled GPS usage related to some of my apps, the problem seems to be somewhere else. Will try with Better Battery Stats to see if I can find the culprit.
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Yeah I'm on ww firmware as well. Please let me know if you find anything.
same problem here since yesterday tried everything but nothing works.
Kelari said:
Is this normal battery drain for Google play services? It seems a bit high to me. I have turned off some of the syncing for my accounts and location is off.
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After last update i face this issue.
suganesan said:
After last update i face this issue.
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Yeah mine looks even worse now....
Mine is only 3%
Kelari said:
Is this normal battery drain for Google play services? It seems a bit high to me. I have turned off some of the syncing for my accounts and location is off.
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After i disable location service it came back to normal. I download movie and watch full movie. My battery drains 15% only. The culprit is gps. I hope it will help you guys
suganesan said:
After i disable location service it came back to normal. I download movie and watch full movie. My battery drains 15% only. The culprit is gps. I hope it will help you guys
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Well it is already off and has been for the entire time of that picture. It must be something else but no idea what.
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Well it is already off and has been for the entire time of that picture. It must be something else but no idea what.
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No my friend i can clearly say gps is the problem. Now you see my screenshot. I send movie to my friend through xender, that time i enable gps because xender asked permission. So that I enabled it, and forget to disable. Again it drains my battery around 20%
If you are rooted you might try GMS Doze Magisk module.
For me it has recently changed, it's the Google play store, not even play services which is causing the battery drain. I did not even use the play store or update apps or anything like that.
i got rid of it by clearing data and cache of google play services.
Yes that might be the problem for you. I'm certain that's not the case for me. Today I have over 50% battery drain from Google play services and GPS has been turned off the entire time.
Any update about this issues?
Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
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Joao
I have the same issue, currently it's almost 2 days background and almost 11% battery drain. I usually get similar results ~5% battery drain per day.
On my S21U looking at a week’s battery usage, Google Play Services has used .7 to 1.4% per day with daily background usage varying between 11 and 23 hours. Active usage is consistently zero every day though. So I am not seeing any battery issues from Google Play Services. How does this compare with your daily Google Play Services battery usage history for the previous week?
Only disabling sync for accounts I can get more 8 to 10% battery, unfortunately. It's strange because as I said never had this problem before in any brand or model including Samsung.
Turn off Mobile background data and go to battery and turn off run in background. If you want to monitor what is going on there is a few tools you can use and some apps are better than others at honoring your selection but it can also cause problems for other apps that are in the background ie music/video players so keep that in mind. download pcapdroid and glasswire it will tell you a lot about what is running at what time of the day and where the data is being sent if you use wireshark to look at the pcap file. start with what i suggested with turning off the two options for each app after you observe the usage of the app and you will thank me later. My battery drain is minimal at idle, overnight it is 2% for a 12 hour period and most of that is email which i don't want optimised and allow to run in background
For me the option to turn off background usage is greyed out. Is there any way around this?
For Google play services itself you can't but if you turn of everything else you will see major improvements. There are a few others you can't turn off but don't worry.
Just disable it. Enable when you need it.
Most times it's not needed at all.
Disable all cloud crap unless you use it.
Google Transport is a prime offender, disable it.
Turn off Google Firebase and all feedback including Samsung, carrier feedback if any.
Use Karma Firewall to block Android Services, Playstore and Google Play Services if disabling it isn't getting it
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery, no ads, a great clean app. Unfortunately it's logging feature doesn't work on high security Q/11.
Thanks for nothing Google...
If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.
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If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.
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Gmail, Playstore and Gmaps are the only useful Google apps. Google Play Services can easily be enabled as needed.
Otherwise it's a data sucking battery hog that needs a good kick in the head.
I've had it with Google's endless big sister bs.
And... Firewall blocking with Karma Firewall does improve battery life if you block the apks I mentioned.
For the last 12 hours this is how much battery Karma used...
GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.
arf8 said:
GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.
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Try it, it's easy enough to undo if it's problematic.
Google Play Services was literally polling the internet 4 times every minute at idle. Unacceptable.
jtlivio said:
Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
Thanks
Joao
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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.
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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.
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I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).
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I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).
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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?
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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?
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Wifi is always disabled.