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[Q] Won't go to Deep Sleep

My BS is draining battery like 30~40 percent per night( 7 hours ) when it's idle no Wifi, Data, and with Power Saver
This has just started recently so i uninstall all the apps i installed prior to this incident.
I don't have any battery saver app or that kind of stuff, but i downloaded Wakelock Detector to find out what's draining my battery...based on it's result my BS won't go to deep sleep.
Is there any way to make it normal again, i usually only lose 4~5 percent per night.

cheetah6245 said:
My BS is draining battery like 30~40 percent per night( 7 hours ) when it's idle no Wifi, Data, and with Power Saver
This has just started recently so i uninstall all the apps i installed prior to this incident.
I don't have any battery saver app or that kind of stuff, but i downloaded Wakelock Detector to find out what's draining my battery...based on it's result my BS won't go to deep sleep.
Is there any way to make it normal again, i usually only lose 4~5 percent per night.
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It's a common problem, a lof of users are complaining recently about drain of battery on forums. The root cause is Google services, that won't allow the phone to get into deep sleep. I can't say what exactly helped me, but I would suggest to clean data of all google apps including google service framework - that what helped me. more threads on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378962, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385843

tsokh said:
It's a common problem, a lof of users are complaining recently about drain of battery on forums. The root cause is Google services, that won't allow the phone to get into deep sleep. I can't say what exactly helped me, but I would suggest to clean data of all google apps including google service framework - that what helped me. more threads on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378962, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385843
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Thanks for the reply,
Im new to Android( first smartphone ) so i don't know much ,
So i went to Settings - Apps - and Clear data anything google related....is this the correct way and i can't seem to find google service framework
If i done the wrong way please guide me with the correct way.

cheetah6245 said:
Thanks for the reply,
Im new to Android( first smartphone ) so i don't know much ,
So i went to Settings - Apps - and Clear data anything google related....is this the correct way and i can't seem to find google service framework
If i done the wrong way please guide me with the correct way.
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You can find everything in "All apps", just swype right to the end. It'd be better to disable app first and apply "force stop" and then "clear data", after enable it again. if you see any warnings, just click OK.

tsokh said:
You can find everything in "All apps", just swype right to the end. It'd be better to disable app first and apply "force stop" and then "clear data", after enable it again. if you see any warnings, just click OK.
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I did what you said and it's fixed, only losing 4% battery per night when idle
Thanks.

It's all about the battery...

I would like to say that i hope to make this thread a sticky, and that we as community, can help each other to eliminate the problem with standby drain or any battery related issue.
I would like to open with a recent issue related to Pie, rouge apps, which results in too much battery drain on idle and overnight.
I recently disabled powergenie to maximize performance of device and make sure that my apps won't auto dim(i'll post the commands here, so you won't have to search it):
pm disable-user --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie
pm uninstall --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie
I've been monitoring the battery life ever since, and noticed at first a faster drain on idle, that's because i had some rogue dating apps that i didn't think drain too much(PowerGenie might have prevented them from over draining, even though they ran in the background).
Which brings me to the next conclusion- On android PIE, media apps might drain more power than usual, as it wasn't the case with Oreo.
Since i use various dating apps like Tinder,Grindr,OkCupid, it all might contributed to that fact, mainly tinder which was draining battery even in silent operation.
Some here are some advices: If u use dating apps, at least tinder, make sure it's not running in the background.
Instagram is also a battery sucker, facebook app is the biggest sucker, u might use facebook and messenger light.
When you go to sleep, make sure that u have no active media apps in the background, as they'll try to connect to the net even if you have turned it off(Using Airplane mode kinda defeats the purpose of low idle drain), make sure to turn off all unneeded services such as Bluetooth, Wifi, Mobile Data, Location.
I'll update it, the more i'll find, i'll post some of my recent battery life(was using phone whole night, so it didn't overdrain in the night or idle time).

Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.

jhs39 said:
Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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jhs39 said:
Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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That's why it's in testing phase, i get notification and no force close apps. removed hauwei launcher and now toying with powergenie.
I might bring it back and see how it fares on vs it's off, when it's off, you gotta be more aware of wakelocks as you said.

Derpling said:
That's why it's in testing phase, i get notification and no force close apps. removed hauwei launcher and now toying with powergenie.
I might bring it back and see how it fares on vs it's off, when it's off, you gotta be more aware of wakelocks as you said.
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I also uninstalled Powergenie 3 weeks ago. Don't really notice a difference with the battery time. But I'm happy my screen no longers dims brightness within certain apps.
Darkat70 said:
Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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I remember somewhere you said you could still see your battery software stats, despite uninstalling Powergenie? You had installed GSam battery monitor if I'm right? Then do you need to give that app permissions via ADB? Otherwise you won't be able to see the app usage right? After only installing GSam battery monitor I don't see the app usage yet. Also do you have the free or pro version? And doesn't GSam battery itself consume battery?

cordonbleu said:
I also uninstalled Powergenie 3 weeks ago. Don't really notice a difference with the battery time. But I'm happy my screen no longers dims brightness within certain apps.
I remember somewhere you said you could still see your battery software stats, despite uninstalling Powergenie? You had installed GSam battery monitor if I'm right? Then do you need to give that app permissions via ADB? Otherwise you won't be able to see the app usage right? After only installing GSam battery monitor I don't see the app usage yet. Also do you have the free or pro version? And doesn't GSam battery itself consume battery?
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The stats in battery are gone, but I have Gsam battery Pro, it seems to not use much battery at all, but then I am relying on Gsam to tell me about its own product, but it has the stats pretty reasonable.
Don't understand what the top numbers are about but tells me I'm getting average of 9.20 screen on time, and 10.10 hrs max
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Darkat70 said:
The stats in battery are gone, but I have Gsam battery Pro, it seems to not use much battery at all, but then I am relying on Gsam to tell me about its own product, but it has the stats pretty reasonable.
Don't understand what the top numbers are about but tells me I'm getting average of 9.20 screen on time, and 10.10 hrs max
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Oke. I've installed the app but can't see the software usage yet. Do I need to grant GSam battery monitor acces via adb before I can see my software usage?

cordonbleu said:
Oke. I've installed the app but can't see the software usage yet. Do I need to grant GSam battery monitor acces via adb before I can see my software usage?
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Yes, it should prompt you the instructions when you start it.

Darkat70 said:
Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
There's also the difference between the LG and BOE displays. I had phones with both and kept the handset with the LG display because it was brighter, had much richer colors and noticably faster pixel response.
I did notice an issue with brightness dimming while certain apps were running but only on the handset with the BOE display.

jhs39 said:
Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
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Indeed, I put my dating and social media apps on auto manage and brought powergenie back for now.
Results vary between different configurations, but social media apps needs to be kept eye on, in case you decide to doable powergenie

jhs39 said:
Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
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None of this really is relevant to the fact that I was using the phone for 8 weeks with power genie, then soon as I have removed it I have seen a dramatic improvement. The results speak for themselves.
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Darkat70 said:
None of this really is relevant to the fact that I was using the phone for 8 weeks with power genie, then soon as I have removed it I have seen a dramatic improvement. The results speak for themselves.
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Except the thread OP who followed your advice is now apparently experiencing signifigantly more battery drain with PowerGenie disabled (which is the opposite of your experience) and the fact that I haven't seen any of the problems disabling PowerGenie fixed for you.

jhs39 said:
Except the thread OP who followed your advice is now apparently experiencing signifigantly more battery drain with PowerGenie disabled (which is the opposite of your experience) and the fact that I haven't seen any of the problems disabling PowerGenie fixed for you.
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Still irrelevant, since I have better performance and quality improvement. So you stating that it's not possible doesn't change the fact that it is.
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Since I updated to .187 I have a strange issue.
I booted into recovery cleared the cache, fully charge the battery at 100% I get 11minutes before dropping to 99%
If I Go to apps and manually clear the cache 1 by 1 fully charge I get 36 minutes before dropping to 99%
This is with or without powergenie. Which is currently disabled.
Very strange.

Why is it if I have uninstalled Power Genie is it possible to still be a running service.
Developer options/running service
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Yes, also running on mine even after disabling it.
Just stopped it now. Let's see the results. In any case, pretty happy with the battery so far. Also phone is snappier now.

i have tried both with and with out for weeks at a time same usage pattern same network same location, and settings and the only difference i notice is that on idle with out powergenie the phone discharges faster with powergenie enable it stays for a longer time with out losing juice in terms of SOT and usage it was basically the same with it on or off. At least for me.

I've got a problem with the removal of Powergenie since Emui 9.1
On Emui 9.0 I had no problems whatsoever. But since 9.1.0.300 my battery drains very quick. I even tried factory resetting a few times, without backup and I don't have much apps installed, the same apps as I had on 9.0... Also the battery charges slower, because the phone gets hotter. I checked for draining apps with GSam battery monitor, but all apps behave normal.
Only when I put Powergenie back the problems are gone...
I had this problem first on 9.1.0.300, then 9.1.0.310 and now still on 9.1.0.320.
I really want a solution for this problem as I don't want to keep Powergenie installed. With Powergenie installed my screen dims in bright apps. So when I open an app like Whatsapp, Chrome, GMail, or even the calender or notes app, the screen gets dimmer. When you close the app, the screen gets brighter again. This is so terrible annoying and I don't like this behaviour at all.
As far as I know there is no other solution for this problem, except uninstalling Powergenie.... Before I found the Powergenie solution I was really thinking about returning or selling this phone, just because of the dimming issue. But now there is a new problem
Can anyone help me with this problem? Does anyone else have this same issue? Right now I'm even thinking about buying another phone... But maybe Android 10 / Emui 10 will fix the problem?

cordonbleu said:
I've got a problem with the removal of Powergenie since Emui 9.1
On Emui 9.0 I had no problems whatsoever. But since 9.1.0.300 my battery drains very quick. I even tried factory resetting a few times, without backup and I don't have much apps installed, the same apps as I had on 9.0... Also the battery charges slower, because the phone gets hotter. I checked for draining apps with GSam battery monitor, but all apps behave normal.
Only when I put Powergenie back the problems are gone...
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I don't remember reading about a similar problem...so are you sure it's not an app or something else you uninstalled? I have none of these problems (and I whacked Power Genie 3 months ago, along with 3-4 other Huawei apps) - certainly I didn't expect charging to be affected or that the battery drains actually faster.
The fact that factory default does not have a positive effect is alarming - remind me, does that also restore the system apps you uninstalled using adb? I thought it does...
Running 9.1.0.325 on LYA-L0C.

Ipse_Tase said:
I don't remember reading about a similar problem...so are you sure it's not an app or something else you uninstalled? I have none of these problems (and I whacked Power Genie 3 months ago, along with 3-4 other Huawei apps) - certainly I didn't expect charging to be affected or that the battery drains actually faster.
The fact that factory default does not have a positive effect is alarming - remind me, does that also restore the system apps you uninstalled using adb? I thought it does...
Running 9.1.0.325 on LYA-L0C.
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I even had Powergenie uninstalled since around March I think. Never had a problem with it untill Emui 9.1 came.
I have not installed any new app. It surely is strange that a factory reset doesn't help. But when I enable Powergenie again, the battery behaves normally again. But then I have that horrible screen dimming back. :crying:

Faster battery drain after OTA update to 9.1.0.252 on Huawei P10 VTRL-L29

After updating to 9.1.0.252 I noticed faster battery drain. Did any of you experience the same behavior? I'm thinking to go back to 9.0.1.
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I feel the same
Envoyé de mon VTR-L29 en utilisant Tapatalk

Don't forget that our device/battery is getting older with every update?.
It might look like new but mine is already 2 years in use.

naissguy said:
After updating to 9.1.0.252 I noticed faster battery drain. Did any of you experience the same behavior? I'm thinking to go back to 9.0.1.
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I noticed faster battery drain on my ltr-09 as well. All is fine now. I noticed when i first upgraded location was turning on alot almost like it was learning when to turn on. Then it levelled out. Example opening google now at first it always turned on my gps now it doesnt. When i was on 9.01 i left my phone on battery saving for gps. You cant on 9.1 and i have seen alot of apps that used to be good with battery saving location now going for full with gps. Big bttery drain. Those were the differences i found. What I believe solved my battery drain was actually my battery getting all screwed up. I had this happen when i would switch roms and my battery stats would get all messed up. I solved it before and solved it this time with my p10 by running the thing right dead. Then pluging it in overnight with it turned off (no fast charging) Then I did it again the next night drained to dead , plug in charge with off ( no supercharging) and my battery life is better again. Hope this helps. EDIT After a few days of testing i still felt the battery was better but battery life still wasnt right. I did a factory installed minimal apps. Battery life was good until play store updated carrier services. I uninstalled updates to carrier services, disabled auto update. Then i actually disabled carrier services completely. Battery seems good now. From what i read carrier services is for next gen texting. Saw online others were having issues with this update.

djg269 said:
Don't forget that our device/battery is getting older with every update.
It might look like new but mine is already 2 years in use.
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Wrong, batteries get older with time and charging cycles. Updates have nothing to do with it and if you notice a drain right after one - it has nothing to do with the condition of the battery, it's the update's fault.

updates are huawei's way to convince you to buy a new phone
first they borked the camera, now they are messing with battery

I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.

I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
Edit: It was dobble posted I don't know why, maybe a moderator could please delete on of the post

naissguy said:
I managed to improve battery life a little bit by disabling apps running in background and disabling unnecessary location permissions for several apps like @bigshowjh said. Like @bigshowjh said I found apps resetting their permission or settings after update. Still the battery life is not like it was before updating with the same usage behavior.
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I have ran a couple of days with very good battery life. 11.5 hrs with 62 percent left. Seems like it used to be with Oreo. Overview of all I did was as follows. Clear cache partition, factory reset . Uninstalled Google Chrome (used Firefox instead) set carrier service to factory in apps three dots advanced. Disabled automatic update of carrier services in play store, then in settings apps disabled carrier services completely. Went through and disabled network access to every app that doesn't need it. I don't use Facebook or Facebook Messenger apps. I use them through my browser. Oddly chome on pie is a battery killer as well. I'm very satisfied with proformance of my P10 again.

My GPS is pretty much always off (unless I really need it) and the battery level still goes down by 9% during the night. It used to be 3-4%.
I cannot find carrier service anywhere.
In my case I can't see power hungry apps in the stats, standby process uses the most energy.

majaczos said:
My GPS is pretty much always off (unless I really need it) and the battery level still goes down by 9% during the night. It used to be 3-4%.
I cannot find carrier service anywhere.
In my case I can't see power hungry apps in the stats, standby process uses the most energy.
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Settings, apps, apps again, select three dots in upper right, select show system processes. You will find it there it's a little hidden lol.

Still no carrier services for Play Store.

Question Google play services is at it again

Hi all,
Is anyone facing an issue with google play services draining the battery...I get so angry when I see that damn app draining my battery...the battery stats says it's running in the background...why, I don't know! It's recent phenomenon and has been running since the past 20hrs or so...how do I solve this? I'm not sure cleaning the data/ cache would be ideal as this would only lead to more drain since play services will try to download all the info that it has previously....any help will be greatly appreciated!

So 1% battery loss from a system service running for 20 hours in the background is a big problem...?
I'm a bit confused here...

NippleSauce said:
So 1% battery loss from a system service running for 20 hours in the background is a big problem...?
I'm a bit confused here...
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Actually, it's a bit more than 1%...more like 23% over the past 6 days or so...here's the screenshot...I don't know if this apt battery usage or if google play services need to be given a knock on its head...

amirage said:
Actually, it's a bit more than 1%...more like 23% over the past 6 days or so...here's the screenshot...I don't know if this apt battery usage or if google play services need to be given a knock on its head...
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Ah, so 0.16% battery per hour. So a bit more than normal. What version of the phone do you have (which processor) and what apps do you have installed that weren't listed?
Also, how do you keep charging your phone so slightly as shown in the picture?

Oh yes, GPlayS will eat up the battery...
Download Karma Firewall and block Google Play Services. It may be shown by it's UID, on my 10+ it's 10044.
You can unblock it as needed like for Gmail or Playstore (block Playstore as well*).
Block Android Services as well, UID 1000.
It's pretty useless but polls the internet 2 times every minute, GPlayS is 4 times a minute.
On Pie Karma's logging feature works so I can see what each apk is doing or not... Q and up sucks.
*disable if you have a package blocker except when needed. A reboot is required and GPS must be unblocked too for Playstore.
Clear Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework data as well. Best to disable the latter two. Someone told the latter two aren't present in Q... I can't verify that either way.

NippleSauce said:
Ah, so 0.15972% battery per hour. So a bit more than normal. What version of the phone do you have and what apps do you have installed that weren't listed?
Also, how do you keep charging your phone so slightly as shown in the picture?
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Hi, I have the 21Ultra 12/256. The funny thing is that play services started acting up only lately...I have been using the phone for 1 week+ and this app starting going berserk just 20 hours ago! It's very likely a rogue update could have caused this issue and I'm sure if I uninstall the update all should be fine...let me do that and see how it performs...

amirage said:
Hi, I have the 21Ultra 12/256. The funny thing is that play services started acting up only lately...I have been using the phone for 1 week+ and this app starting going berserk just 20 hours ago! It's very likely a rogue update could have caused this issue and I'm sure if I uninstall the update all should be fine...let me do that and see how it performs...
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My AT&T Note 10+ did the same thing and it wasn't an update that triggered it.
Power management was part of the problem.
I run now with all power management disabled except for fast charging and Optimized screen/cpu setting.
When I turn this phone off it goes into deep sleep...

blackhawk said:
My AT&T Note 10+ did the same thing and it wasn't an update that triggered it.
Power management was part of the problem.
I run now with all power management disabled except for fast charging and Optimized screen/cpu setting.
When I turn this phone off it goes into deep sleep...
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Power management, you refer to the ones that show in the battery settings right? But I don't know how the battery power management settings relate to google play services drain...I have betterbatterystats and it shows that google play is the top most draining app...why I can't understand...

I have a feeling it's the feb update that's messing with the battery settings..Jan update was cool...is there a way to roll back to update before AUB6?

Here's an update...I uninstalled the updates to google play services and cleared the cache. Rebooted...and all's going well so far.

Definitely try out the suggestions made by @destz0r in the video that he left. I guess that I don't ever experience the same problem as I always leave location services disabled unless I'm directly using them for navigation. But I never would've guessed that GPS occasionally leads to more GPlay Service specific battery consumption (as I had thought that GPlay Services were primarily for inner-Google app data communication)...

NippleSauce said:
Definitely try out the suggestions made by @destz0r in the video that he left. I guess that I don't ever experience the same problem as I always leave location services disabled unless I'm directly using them for navigation. But I never would've guessed that GPS occasionally leads to more GPlay Service specific battery consumption (as I had thought that GPlay Services were primarily for inner-Google app data communication)...
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I already had all those suggestions in place right at the time of setting up the device initially..but yes, uninstalling the play services update cleared the issue...for the moment...

amirage said:
Power management, you refer to the ones that show in the battery settings right? But I don't know how the battery power management settings relate to google play services drain...I have betterbatterystats and it shows that google play is the top most draining app...why I can't understand...
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Power management seems to create conflicts after a few days running. GooglePS includes Backup Transport and Framework. Even when turned off they continue to run in the background on my device.
Play with it, see what you find but don't ignore and let this trashware toast your battery.

Question Google Play Services

Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
Thanks
Joao

I have the same issue, currently it's almost 2 days background and almost 11% battery drain. I usually get similar results ~5% battery drain per day.

On my S21U looking at a week’s battery usage, Google Play Services has used .7 to 1.4% per day with daily background usage varying between 11 and 23 hours. Active usage is consistently zero every day though. So I am not seeing any battery issues from Google Play Services. How does this compare with your daily Google Play Services battery usage history for the previous week?

Only disabling sync for accounts I can get more 8 to 10% battery, unfortunately. It's strange because as I said never had this problem before in any brand or model including Samsung.

Turn off Mobile background data and go to battery and turn off run in background. If you want to monitor what is going on there is a few tools you can use and some apps are better than others at honoring your selection but it can also cause problems for other apps that are in the background ie music/video players so keep that in mind. download pcapdroid and glasswire it will tell you a lot about what is running at what time of the day and where the data is being sent if you use wireshark to look at the pcap file. start with what i suggested with turning off the two options for each app after you observe the usage of the app and you will thank me later. My battery drain is minimal at idle, overnight it is 2% for a 12 hour period and most of that is email which i don't want optimised and allow to run in background

For me the option to turn off background usage is greyed out. Is there any way around this?

For Google play services itself you can't but if you turn of everything else you will see major improvements. There are a few others you can't turn off but don't worry.

Just disable it. Enable when you need it.
Most times it's not needed at all.
Disable all cloud crap unless you use it.
Google Transport is a prime offender, disable it.
Turn off Google Firebase and all feedback including Samsung, carrier feedback if any.
Use Karma Firewall to block Android Services, Playstore and Google Play Services if disabling it isn't getting it
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery, no ads, a great clean app. Unfortunately it's logging feature doesn't work on high security Q/11.
Thanks for nothing Google...

If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.

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If you disable google services you will find a lot of Google products stop working. I would not advise doing that. Plus you can only disable with Root or something like Adhell using Knox license.
If you use the tools i suggested you will see a significant battery life improvement without any adverse affects to the usability of your phone. Sure you can disable everything under the sun but some things are needed. I have about 137 apps/bloat disabled and phone runs perfect without any hiccups.
Also using a FW to block a service will not improve battery life per say and the FW itself uses battery and RAM along with system resources to operate. It also uses your VPN so if you need to truely use a VPN you give that option up, ie VPN based ad blockers. The requests will constantly occur from the app when it times out or it is blocked. You are better off disabling it if you don't want to live in the google echosystem or care if some apps work or not.
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Gmail, Playstore and Gmaps are the only useful Google apps. Google Play Services can easily be enabled as needed.
Otherwise it's a data sucking battery hog that needs a good kick in the head.
I've had it with Google's endless big sister bs.
And... Firewall blocking with Karma Firewall does improve battery life if you block the apks I mentioned.
For the last 12 hours this is how much battery Karma used...

GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.

arf8 said:
GPS supports a lot more than just google products.
There is no free lunch you FW still consumes battery and you are not seeing the system resources utilized by the FW.
Not going to argue about this, do as you wish.
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Try it, it's easy enough to undo if it's problematic.
Google Play Services was literally polling the internet 4 times every minute at idle. Unacceptable.

jtlivio said:
Hi all
I found my Google Play Services run in background about 12 hours a day, this cause an huge battery drain. I tried some fixes but it's not helping. Never had problems with this in any brand or model.
Can someone point me to the right path?
Thanks
Joao
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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.

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You must have some bug or some special telemetry option turned ON somewhere.
Never seen this kind of behavior.
I wonder if anyone has ever analyzed what normal behavior is on an Android phone where the user turns off all telemetry options that they can.
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I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).

blackhawk said:
I did. Tried everything including disabling Firebase. Transport Services runs a lot even when toggle off. Finally package block it.
Disabling Google Play Services is the only thing that gets it on my N10+ (Pie).
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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?

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You ever try just setting your WiFi connection as Metered?
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Wifi is always disabled.