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Ok so I have my Nook Color and I have my shiney new class 4 sd card.
I have managed to install Honeycomb on said SD card. I even manged to get ADB setup and installed the marketplace and what not.
What I do not have is left over space on the card. I did use the image from this link:
***.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-android-3-0-honeycomb-and-market-on-nook-color/
[EDIT: Nice spam filter. Try this.]
Since the image is 4GB in size, I was under the impression I would have roughly 12GB free on my SD card. I do not. If I go to Settings > Storage it shows the SD card as having a total size of 1.25GB and 1.14GB free. It also shows the internal storage as having a total size of 656MB and 555MB free space.
Ok I could have sworn the EMMC (or internal storage) was 5GB and add in my 16GB of SD should give me 21GB of space +/- space of the OS and apps.
So where the frell is my 12GB of space at?
Also when I plug the nook into my PC running Windows 7 64-Bit I get 3 removable drives that are greyed out and unusable. Loverly. The heck? At the very least the internal EMMC should be showing up.
Notes:
Yes I did install the USB driver
From what I understand this version of HC is not rooted but like your intro video says, I am a newb so what the frell do I know?
What I want:
To be able to plug my NC into the PC and have access to the EMMC (where a lot of my files are now) and access to remaining 12GB or so of space on the NC itself.
History of me and the NC:
I have previously installed CM7 on a different SD card and it was alright. I didn't like it because I couldnt move icons around on the desktop in an intuitive manner. (i.e., grab and drop) and it felt too much like a hacked up phone OS instead of pure android. I want pure android on my NC.
I did my research before I purchased the NC and IMO, it is the best value for the $$$ in terms of an Android tablet. I don't mind putting in some hours in front of the command line (I started working with computers when DOS 5 was released, so lets compare the color of our beards, eh?) and am totally comfortable in various OS's and speak *NIX fluently.
Got an answer that you think is gonna work? Or should I just wait for someone else to post a different Honeycomb image for the NC, or is there one out there that simply works?
Over the last few months I have spent many hours reading these and various other forums (B&N Forums, Android Forums) to get ready to hack my Nook and I would love to contribute in some small (or not so small) manner however being married with 2 kids working 50+ hours a week puts a damper on my "fun time" (i.e. hackery).
Thanks in advance for not only reading all this, but for any help / support that is offered.
D'Oh!
Shoulda watched the video twice. Posted in wrong sub-forum.
Shoulda been in the Q&A area.
Crap.
Maybe there is a mod out there willing to move it.
Think I may have found whats up.
I pulled the SD card and stuck it back in my laptop to take a look-see at the partitions. Lo and behold there is a 12.5GB un-partitioned space.
So now I am going to create a new partition and then stick it in the nook and boot from it. Hopefully once I hook it up to USB, it will be able to mount as volume for file transfer. It would suck to have to poweroff the nook and pull the card every time I wanted to add some files to it.
No luck. Windows will not recognize the partition I created.
I.e., I am unable to assign a drive letter even though it is a logical partition.
Off to google stuff again.
Well I gave up on this.
However I am willing to admit when I am wrong. I am now quitw happily running the latest stable build of CM7 and its running nicely. Got a few more tweaks to do before I arrive at what I had pictured in my head for my ultimate nook.
I just wanted to report in and give a status update although I am kinda puzzled by the lack of responses. Are the majority of you running froyo and waiting for a better version of honeycomb to be released?
Anyway cheers and happy hacking.
Most of us are (I think) running CM7 (gingerbread). When the HC sources are released, I expect we'll be running CM8 within weeks.
Windoze has real troubles with partitioned SDs, especially in built-in readers, either a case of "we know better" or one of those simplifying assumptions that gets in the way. An external reader (looks more like a generic USB drive) might fare better. I'm a Linux guy, so I'm all set. Most Windoze systems don't have drivers for ext filesystems, so they're unusable (/system and /data).
Image-copying always sets the partitions and filesystems until you re-partition like you did. Good detective work there.
Also, lots of us have lives and aren't in this forum full-time. I tend to ignore HC posts when I don't have infinite time to mess around.
Temetka said:
No luck. Windows will not recognize the partition I created.
I.e., I am unable to assign a drive letter even though it is a logical partition.
Off to google stuff again.
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Delete the partition you created... extend the last partition on the SD... the nook can now use all of it when running off SD and the remaining portion of partition 1 when booting stock.
So come to find out that the main holdup woith getting honeycomb going for the nc community is a lack of source code. Until such time as that is made available I can wait.
Now then, here is where I will eat my own hat. I reloaded the latest stable version of CM7 on my nc and I am really impressed with it. Last time I tried it woas a few months ago and it was a dissapointment for me. However between then and now I have learned a lot more about Android in general and the nook. This is my first android device.
FWIW Linux is my mainOS and has been for years. I was in windows so I could satisfy a craving of mine.You see, I am a WoW player. While the game runs ok in Wine, it runs far far better natively, especially for raiding. So I use linux for work and most other functions, i use windows for games.
So anyway I am now very comfortable in my CM7 setup and will continue to work witu it and learn more as time goes by.
OK, I'm out of space on my 820 because "Other" is taking up over 3GB of space and WP8 refuses to touch my 64GB microSD card.
I went through uninstalling nearly all of my apps last night, cleared maps, cleared IE history/temp data, removed facebook/twitter from accounts, and Other only shrunk down to 2.5GB.
Obviously I re-added those things and am back up to 3.0GB. This phone has 8GB of internal storage. Nearly half of the only storage WP8 can use is taken up by some "mystery data", and there's a thread on WPCentral where someone claims to have uninstalled/cleared everything and still has 4GB or so of data sitting in Other.
Anyone here have insight?
Other is the OS and its files. It needs to be stored and loaded from somewhere.
Sure, they could have a second area of flash just for that, but then it would sit there with unused space the user couldn't use as the flash would always be much bigger than the OS to allow for expansion.
Someone mentioned to plug the SD card into the phone while it is plugged into the PC via USB cable.
No, there is already an indicator for system files and it sits around 1.7GB.
Others have reported up to 8GB of usage taken up by "Other", and nothing short of hard resetting seems to clear it. The size is expanding, but it doesn't seem to correlate to any particular addition (IE history, cache, maps, etc). Unless you're suggesting wp8 just increases in size for no reason, this isn't the system.
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No, there is already an indicator for system files and it sits around 1.7GB.
Others have reported up to 8GB of usage taken up by "Other", and nothing short of hard resetting seems to clear it. The size is expanding, but it doesn't seem to correlate to any particular addition (IE history, cache, maps, etc). Unless you're suggesting wp8 just increases in size for no reason, this isn't the system.
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I didn't think wp8 supported more than 32gb cards. I have a problem with that other folder too. The thing that bothers me is the fact that this is my most advanced device I've ever owned, yet I reached the phone storage limit, which was not ever a problem with windows mobile. With wm, I could just install aps right on the SD. This would solve the problem for us. Even my hd2 (with android dual boot, then wp7.8) has way more apps and games and never saw this problem.
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I didn't think wp8 supported more than 32gb cards. I have a problem with that other folder too. The thing that bothers me is the fact that this is my most advanced device I've ever owned, yet I reached the phone storage limit, which was not ever a problem with windows mobile. With wm, I could just install aps right on the SD. This would solve the problem for us. Even my hd2 (with android dual boot, then wp7.8) has way more apps and games and never saw this problem.
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I think WP8 itself supports any size card- it IS using the desktop kernel after all.
Varying phones have different hardware support though. The WP8 Lumia line supports up to 64GB I think. I have about 40GB of music on my 64GB SD card and it's working well in WP8.
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I think WP8 itself supports any size card- it IS using the desktop kernel after all.
Varying phones have different hardware support though. The WP8 Lumia line supports up to 64GB I think. I have about 40GB of music on my 64GB SD card and it's working well in WP8.
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cool, I didn't know. I'm using a 16 GB class 6. Works great. I have full phone storage, mostly empty card. Hopefully we will get the option to install on SD. I would rather it be official, but xda is good for this sort of problem.
Has anyone tried the 'adaptable' storage hack on the Note 8 yet?
Worked on my S7.
I have the same question
I was thinking about doing this but from what I hear it's more trouble than it's worth but if anyone whose done it would like to chime in I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate it.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I was thinking about doing this but from what I hear it's more trouble than it's worth but if anyone whose done it would like to chime in I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate it.
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I feel the same way. More trouble than its worth. The 64GB is plenty for all your apps and for everything else you have your fat Micro SD card.
I can't find half a reason to bother with it. 1. Many apps, especially larger one will use SD card for storage, if not you can set it to do so in settings. 2. SD card is slower than internal memory, so frequently used programs shouldn't be there 3. It creates whole lot of problems if SD card goes bad and yes, had this happen to me multiple times on Sandisk included. 4. it can get complicated when you swap the cards between phones, computers etc and you use the phone without dedicated SD card inside 5. If you really think 64GB internal storage doesn't do it, hunt for elusive 128 and 256 GB versions. They should show up somewhere.
The only a reason to do it I can think off: "because I can?"
I wouldn't do it unless the UFS ever comes out. Supposed to be a lot faster external storage.
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If anybody does want to enable adoptable storage on the Note8 despite the potential issues, try ashyx's patch here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/patch-adoptable-storage-enabler-t3460478
Note:
- You will need TWRP installed.
- It might not work for you. I've only tested it with Renovate.
- You will need to use adb to set up your sd card.
You won't do it on an unrooted phone. Samsung never implemented it.
The phone's built in memory is far faster than any SD card at this point. You'd be slowing your phone down... and not by just a little bit.
I beg to differ
Agree the phones internal memory is tops right now.
Disagree the phone will be slow if you offload storage.
Source: i have virtually every app i use daily (Save a couple) moved to SD card and ive noticed NO.. I repeat NO.. noticeable difference in speed or issue by moving these apps. And im talking about WhatsApp, textra, several video playing apps, Instagram, Snapchat, outlook mobile, and some other apps.
There is SOME residual data from these apps that LIVE on the internal storage—perhaps this left over data keeps the app from bottlenecking from the SD card. This is speculation though.
If interested, in mexico, the largest carrier, telcel offers the 128 Gb model
I had a lot of trouble with the Verizon Moto Z Force, so they gave me a refurbished Galaxy Note 5. Since there's no SD card slot, I'd opted for going for some OTG readers, but now that I have a battery case, I'd have to remove it each time since I cannot both charge and use an OTG device at the moment (someone told me this is dependent on the kernel?).
I had asked this question elsewhere, and someone told me to try here.
A sort of solution I came to is the idea of throwing everything on a cloud storage account. Having the saves sync across all my devices while having all the roms stored in a folder that doesn't, and just pulling a few roms onto my phone's storage at a time.
This seems great for games from much older systems such as the SNES, but not as practical for something like games coming from the PSP.
My question is if any of you know of any better solutions, or if you just have suggestions. Opinions are welcome. Keep in mind that I have a large battery case over my phone, in case there's any ideas about adding more accessories to the phone. So they may be a little less than feasible.
To clarify, I'd like to know any ideas as far as what I have: A Samsung Galaxy Note 5 with a battery case. I am not looking to change those two things. I am unable to upgrade and the current battery case I own has already cost me a lot for me already. Thanks in advance.
What's wrong with using the phone's internal storage? It works just like an sdcard, only without the ability to remove it physically.
It takes up a lot of space. Space that, when full, cannot be expanded through a micro sd card slot. I have space already taken up from files from my previous phone, 32GB is not a lot of space.
NO S21's for me. They do Not have SD Card slot !!!!!!
I haven't seen it confirmed due the ultra. If it's the case, I will be skipping.
I keep seeing no SD card slot in none of the S21's. I can't believe it! We already RSVP'D for one cause of the extra $60 using the Samsung shop app. We're getting the Ultra and I read all will have 256 gigs standard instead of 128 but we'll see. I may have to do the 512 cause hubby says once we upgrade were keeping these for a while. I think now you get 4 years of updates instead of 3 I read.
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NO S21's for me. They do Not have SD Card slot !!!!!!
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No SD card slot, no sale.
I want my bloody data drive... no compromise on that.
I got the Pixel 4 XL a while back and loved the phone. I was concerned when I got it that I might really miss having an SD Card (Pixel phones don't offer SD Cards) but in truth, I really didn't miss it that much. Well, I did miss it some because the Pixel I had offered something like 128GB of storage - but you know, I never got close to running out of storage space.
While I do prefer having an SD Card in my phone, I will still get the S21 Ultra, but will be sure to get either the 256 or 512 GB varient. From everything I have heard about the new S21 Ultra, I believe it is going to be an awesome phone. While not having an SD card is not the perfect situation, I am pretty sure I won't really miss it that much.
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I got the Pixel 4 XL a while back and loved the phone. I was concerned when I got it that I might really miss having an SD Card (Pixel phones don't offer SD Cards) but in truth, I really didn't miss it that much. Well, I did miss it some because the Pixel I had offered something like 128GB of storage - but you know, I never got close to running out of storage space.
While I do prefer having an SD Card in my phone, I will still get the S21 Ultra, but will be sure to get either the 256 or 512 GB varient. From everything I have heard about the new S21 Ultra, I believe it is going to be an awesome phone. While not having an SD card is not the perfect situation, I am pretty sure I won't really miss it that much.
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The SD card allows you to use it as a data drive. Unlike older technologies their data read/writes speeds are fast if you use a V30 rated card.
This allows you to do a full hard reset with no data loss. To completely restore the phone using the stored data including apps with no PC, no Playstore and little or no internet connection.
I can do a 99% complete full reload in about 2 hours.
My 10+ is fully self contained even if I have to reload a minute from now. A card backup to the PC and then a second hdd protects the data no matter what.
No way I'm regressing back to only one SSD.
Two back to back forced reloads caused me to rethink my methods
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The SD card allows you to use it as a data drive. Unlike older technologies their data read/writes speeds are fast if you use a V30 rated card.
This allows you to do a full hard reset with no data loss. To completely restore the phone using the stored data including apps with no PC, no Playstore and little or no internet connection.
I can do a 99% complete full reload in about 2 hours.
My 10+ is fully self contained even if I have to reload a minute from now. A card backup to the PC and then a second hdd protects the data no matter what.
No way I'm regressing back to only one SSD.
Two back to back forced reloads caused me to rethink my methods
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I understand - I guess it all comes down to priorities and what is most important to us. I respect your choice but, I personally am looking forward to getting the new S21 ultra. Best of luck my friend.
Based on all the web info, the S21 Ultra is the only one worth buying this time around it seems out of the three. Looks like that's what Samsung wants consumers to do, too.
For what it's worth, Android Central is saying that the S21 Ultra will be the only S21 Device that will offer an SD Card (big relief if it turns out to be true) Android Central Link
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For what it's worth, Android Central is saying that the S21 Ultra will be the only S21 Device that will offer an SD Card (big relief if it turns out to be true) Android Central Link
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Yay.
Samsung should know better by now though.
Samsung must think it's customers are inept.
Witnessing Samsung's customer service in action will cement that notion.
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Still no bt AptX-HD support though and no 3.5 mm jack to offset this glaring bt deficiency.
I ordered my S21 Ultra - 512 GB today -unfortunately it turns out that early reports were incorrect - none of the S21 series has an SD card slot, including the Ultra. While unfortunate, it is not the end of the world in my opinion. Many phones don't have an SD card slot for a variety of reasons and having the additional storage options of 256 or 512 GB on the Ultra should help make up for it. Hoping they ship the S21's early - otherwise, 2 weeks is not that long of a wait. Looking forward to January 29th!
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I ordered my S21 Ultra - 512 GB today -unfortunately it turns out that early reports were incorrect - none of the S21 series has an SD card slot, including the Ultra. While unfortunate, it is not the end of the world in my opinion. Many phones don't have an SD card slot for a variety of reasons and having the additional storage options of 256 or 512 GB on the Ultra should help make up for it. Hoping they ship the S21's early - otherwise, 2 weeks is not that long of a wait. Looking forward to January 29th!
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Yay! Hope it works good for you.
The lack of a sd card slot is chintzy as hell.
I absolutely refuse not to have at least one separate data drive on all my PCs and phones.
My 10+ thanks to that is now completely self contained; I can do a complete reload with nothing external needed and little or no internet connection. Hell yeah!
Used right a seperate data is a powerful tool and second layer of data security.
I'm not spending big bucks to backstep.
Samsung, lead me or get the hell out of my way!
If you can't rock it, somebody will...
tailgunner9 said:
NO S21's for me. They do Not have SD Card slot !!!!!!
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Yup same for me,stupid move Samsung.
Some people claim that SD card is safer/better and they do not trust cloud backups. If your phone was lost or stolen then wouldn't that result in losing all the data? You would you have to connect your phone to a desktop/laptop daily to back up the SD card which is an extra headache and what if you didn't have a chance for a few days you could lose some data. And is it more secure? With physical access to the device/card there is usually some way (bug/vulnerability) that allows it.
I use cloud for the simplicity if Google got hacked and someone could access peoples cloud data/photos then I'd be more worried about other data google have than the stuff I sync with my phone. I use a password manager for secure storage so I'm covered. Cloud works well, I recently reset my Pixel 4 XL, 15 minutes later it was restoring from the cloud and all apps and files downloaded shortly after that.
People want SD card slots, that is shown here. But I do not see them being around for much longer except in specialise phone makers trying to sell to a niche area. Are those who demand SD card slots going to end up with phones they don't want just have the slot?
I am in now saying you are right or wrong for wanting the slot I am merely putting on my views on it and would be interested to see what others have to say.
FYI I have ordered the S21 Ultra for the camera. Previously I've been happy with 128GB storage as I use Google Photos to backup and remove my photos to reduce storage. But looking at the capabilities of the new cameras I did opt for a 256GB as a "just in case". If I'm out and about and want to play with RAW/8K features then I'll be able to and then once edited I can clean up some space.
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Some people claim that SD card is safer/better and they do not trust cloud backups. If your phone was lost or stolen then wouldn't that result in losing all the data? You would you have to connect your phone to a desktop/laptop daily to back up the SD card which is an extra headache and what if you didn't have a chance for a few days you could lose some data. And is it more secure? With physical access to the device/card there is usually some way (bug/vulnerability) that allows it.
I use cloud for the simplicity if Google got hacked and someone could access peoples cloud data/photos then I'd be more worried about other data google have than the stuff I sync with my phone. I use a password manager for secure storage so I'm covered. Cloud works well, I recently reset my Pixel 4 XL, 15 minutes later it was restoring from the cloud and all apps and files downloaded shortly after that.
People want SD card slots, that is shown here. But I do not see them being around for much longer except in specialise phone makers trying to sell to a niche area. Are those who demand SD card slots going to end up with phones they don't want just have the slot?
I am in now saying you are right or wrong for wanting the slot I am merely putting on my views on it and would be interested to see what others have to say.
FYI I have ordered the S21 Ultra for the camera. Previously I've been happy with 128GB storage as I use Google Photos to backup and remove my photos to reduce storage. But looking at the capabilities of the new cameras I did opt for a 256GB as a "just in case". If I'm out and about and want to play with RAW/8K features then I'll be able to and then once edited I can clean up some space.
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My music data base is over 220 gb. Cloud is a poor option for large files. It's either not secure enough or... too secure.
Never "lost" a phone but passwords have failed more than once. Many times it's a hardware failure the causes it.
Double redundant unencrypted backups stored in separate locations not including the SD card are the fastest and safest way.
There's no reason not to want a SD card slot unless you're chintzy Samsung trying to sell bare bones phones for big bucks.
I'm getting tired of playing games with Samsung...
I would have preferred an SD card. I purchased a 512GB SD Card for the Note20 (128GB). However, when I look at usage, I am only using about 80GB of data. The built-in storage is good for 99.5% of people. For the .5% of people, who need more storage - this puts them in a tight situation, hopefully they knew this ahead of time and bought a version with more storage, because otherwise they'll need to get a new phone. I ended up getting the 256GB model. Unfortunately the storage upgrade is a money maker for Samsung (and Apple), which is why they made this decision.
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I would have preferred an SD card. I purchased a 512GB SD Card for the Note20 (128GB). However, when I look at usage, I am only using about 80GB of data. The built-in storage is good for 99.5% of people. For the .5% of people, who need more storage - this puts them in a tight situation, hopefully they knew this ahead of time and bought a version with more storage, because otherwise they'll need to get a new phone. I ended up getting the 256GB model. Unfortunately the storage upgrade is a money maker for Samsung (and Apple), which is why they made this decision.
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It's up to >you< to fully utilize a data drive effective; otherwise it's just terabit bragging rights
It's not a question of overall storage space; I'm using 60 gb of my 500 gb internal storage, but deliberately have over 330 gb on the SD card.
To load that data alone takes hours. I keep everything I need for a complete restore on it too; no cloud anything not even Playstore apks.
It's relatively secure from a OS crash and allows for a fast easy complete reload, anytime, anywhere. 100% builtin redundancy.
It also saves needless wear and tear writes to the internal memory.
I use dedicated data drives on all my PCs; combined OS/data drives are a bad practice that lead to unnecessary complications and data loss.
Learn or get burned.
Samsung got chintzy and will pay the price; No Sale!
Note you can still use those tiny portable SD card readers via the USB-C port (and USB drives ect). Obviously doesn't satisfy all use cases but still a handy way to transfer and back-up files occasionally.
When I travelled for work I used to load up movies and TV shows on a USB flash drive and plug it into my phone to watch them in the motels.
Before smart TVs and Netflix ect was common in hotels.
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Note you can still use those tiny portable SD card readers via the USB-C port (and USB drives ect). Obviously doesn't satisfy all use cases but still a handy way to transfer and back-up files occasionally.
When I travelled for work I used to load up movies and TV shows on a USB flash drive and plug it into my phone to watch them in the motels.
Before smart TVs and Netflix ect was common in hotels.
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That's as good as it gets if you have no SD card slot. At least it gives you redundancy if used right.
The SD card slot is an invaluable asset if used correctly, however most don't fully utilize it to it's full potential. I was one of those until about 8 months ago when it dawned on me I had a data drive sitting there begging to be used. I went straight to fully embracing its potential.
One reload since then and it was a snap; fast with almost zero data loss.
256 GB is plenty for me, most of my content is on the cloud. That said, an sd card slot would be nice, but I can live without it.