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Possible Verizon bootloader unlock

Well I called Verizon today and told them I was traveling out of country. The agreed to unlock device. My OEM Unlock used to be greyed out with the Device is Carrier Locked. After they unlocked it for me just 15 min ago the OEM Unlocking option is still greyed out but the message now reads Connect to the internet or contact your carrier. So it's still greyed out but I wonder if I try fastboot unlock if it would unlock it and make it not greyed out.
Just not sure if fastboot to oem unlock will make it work now.

Heres what the oem unlock looks now

wolfballz said:
Well I called Verizon today and told them I was traveling out of country. The agreed to unlock device. My OEM Unlock used to be greyed out with the Device is Carrier Locked. After they unlocked it for me just 15 min ago the OEM Unlocking option is still greyed out but the message now reads Connect to the internet or contact your carrier. So it's still greyed out but I wonder if I try fastboot unlock if it would unlock it and make it not greyed out.
Just not sure if fastboot to oem unlock will make it work now.
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It will not.
The toggle needs flipped to use the fastboot command.

Shoulda bought direct from Google if you want that unlocked

wolfballz said:
Heres what the oem unlock looks now
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What happens when you stick a working SIM from a different carrier in it? Until their phone is CARRIER unlocked, the oem unlocking toggle will be grayed out and it cannot be bootloader unlocked. Doubtful they would carrier unlock their phone until it was 100% paid off. You will not be able to bootloader unlock Verizon's phone until the OEM toggle is enabled, and that won't happen until their phone is carrier unlocked.... in fact they may never carrier unlock their phone.

I can't believe that after 3.5 years of locked Verizon Pixel bootloaders people are still talking about unlocking a locked Verizon bootloader. It's never going to happen.
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cryppie said:
I can't believe that after 3.5 years of locked Verizon Pixel bootloaders people are still talking about unlocking a locked Verizon bootloader. It's never going to happen.
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Preaching to the choir brother... I gave up trying to convince them. Lol

cryppie said:
I can't believe that after 3.5 years of locked Verizon Pixel bootloaders people are still talking about unlocking a locked Verizon bootloader. It's never going to happen.
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Preaching to the choir brother... I gave up trying to convince them. Lol
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Then why bother responding? Don't waste your time reading it.

v12xke said:
What happens when you stick a working SIM from a different carrier in it? Until their phone is CARRIER unlocked, the oem unlocking toggle will be grayed out and it cannot be bootloader unlocked. Doubtful they would carrier unlock their phone until it was 100% paid off. You will not be able to bootloader unlock Verizon's phone until the OEM toggle is enabled, and that won't happen until their phone is carrier unlocked.... in fact they may never carrier unlock their phone.
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Going to try a friends thats on at&t's service with a paid off device and use his sim.

wolfballz said:
Going to try a friends thats on at&t's service with a paid off device and use his sim.
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Meaning your device is paid off, or his? I'm not sure there are any verizon-bought Pixels that are bootloader unlocked. Once paid off, they can be carrier unlocked to use on a different service but as far as I know the only people that have a bootloader unlocked Pixel running on verizon were bought unlocked at the Google store (or got an unlocked one on by mistake on RMA). There could be exceptions, but that is generally the case. If you are paid off, and your goal is to get a carrier unlocked phone, you may well succeed. If your goal is to get to an unlocked bootloader you will likely need a different device.

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Meaning your device is paid off, or his? I'm not sure there are any verizon-bought Pixels that are bootloader unlocked. Once paid off, they can be carrier unlocked to use on a different service but as far as I know the only people that have a bootloader unlocked Pixel running on verizon were bought unlocked at the Google store (or got an unlocked one on by mistake on RMA). There could be exceptions, but that is generally the case. If you are paid off, and your goal is to get a carrier unlocked phone, you may well succeed. If your goal is to get to an unlocked bootloader you will likely need a different device.
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People have been trying everything possible to unlock Verizon Pixel phones since they were first released. I'm not saying he shouldn't try but it's not going to work. Just like Samsung phone purchased through Verizon, the bootloader has not been unlocked on them for quite a few years.

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Meaning your device is paid off, or his? I'm not sure there are any verizon-bought Pixels that are bootloader unlocked. Once paid off, they can be carrier unlocked to use on a different service but as far as I know the only people that have a bootloader unlocked Pixel running on verizon were bought unlocked at the Google store (or got an unlocked one on by mistake on RMA). There could be exceptions, but that is generally the case. If you are paid off, and your goal is to get a carrier unlocked phone, you may well succeed. If your goal is to get to an unlocked bootloader you will likely need a different device.
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Mine isn't paid off. I did get verizon to carrier unlock the device. My friend has a unlocked pixel 4xl from google unlocked and is on at&t. Going to try his sim in my device to see if the oem toggle can be tripped.

wolfballz said:
Then why bother responding? Don't waste your time reading it.
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Because you open a thread titled Possible Verizon bootloader unlock. That is misleading to say the least. You will never unlock a Verizon bootloader. You are either trolling or just ignorant. It looks like well over 100 have viewed this misleading post. Try whatever you want but how about trying before you post to save people the time they wasted reading your useless posts?
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

cryppie said:
Because you open a thread titled Possible Verizon bootloader unlock. That is misleading to say the least. You will never unlock a Verizon bootloader. You are either trolling or just ignorant. It looks like well over 100 have viewed this misleading post. Try whatever you want but how about trying before you post to save people the time they wasted reading your useless posts?
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Again, who made you read it?

wolfballz said:
Again, who made you read it?
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He has a valid point, it's a very misleading title.

they probably only temporarily unlocked your device which won't allow OEM unlocking... this is why I am happy I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile, with a bit of nice attitude and talking to the right reps T-Mobile has unlocked every device while still making payments for the pat year for me, including my 4 XL.

Enable ESIM on pixel 4 verizon unlocked but bootloader locked
Is there a way through the developer mode to enable ESIM on a verizon pixel 4?
its unlocked to use on any carrier but not bootloader unlocked.
If there is a way and you have the steps please post.
Thanks!

wolfballz said:
Mine isn't paid off. I did get verizon to carrier unlock the device. My friend has a unlocked pixel 4xl from google unlocked and is on at&t. Going to try his sim in my device to see if the oem toggle can be tripped.
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So I am curious if you had any luck.... I also have to ask how well do you know the new files systems? I know this from 2019 but the newer phones with dual partitions as I read about learning from my pixel 2xl is that the carrier has control of OEM unlocking such as Verizon and because of this and I will say Verizon who is my carrier will play stupid and act like they know nothing about OEM unlocking and will not unlock that toggle ever due to supposed security risks to their network bands and because Verizon purchased the phones from Google , Google gives them permission to have control of the bootloader and good luck trying get any type of developer bare boned version of Android to flash... I'm not trying to bash your idea and I honestly don't know how much you really know about the dual partition file system.... I am just curious how your idea worked though I'm sure it didn't as there is just the 2 pages and nothing new posted....

First Pixel Device

I'm swaying between this and the OnePlus 7T Pro.
Being a Pixel phone, am I free to unlock the bootloader and root it? If so, will Google Pay still work?
Thanks

You can do it , but it will break the gpay but there is workaround for that
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mushtafa said:
I'm swaying between this and the OnePlus 7T Pro.
Being a Pixel phone, am I free to unlock the bootloader and root it? If so, will Google Pay still work?
Thanks
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Yes

mushtafa said:
I'm swaying between this and the OnePlus 7T Pro.
Being a Pixel phone, am I free to unlock the bootloader and root it? If so, will Google Pay still work? Thanks
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Yours is a two part question. The second part is a definite yes. The first part depends on which phone you buy. You have to be careful that the phone you end up with can be bootloader unlocked. There are many vendors selling phones that are carrier unlocked but cannot be bootloader unlocked. They advertise them as "unlocked". If you are able to buy directly from the Google Store there will be no question that it will work anywhere in the world and the bootloader can be unlocked. If you get the correct one you will not be disappointed!

what @v12xke said.
if you buy from swappa make sure the bootloader is unlockable have them check if the OEM setting is active or grayed out in developer settings.

v12xke said:
Yours is a two part question. The second part is a definite yes. The first part depends on which phone you buy. You have to be careful that the phone you end up with can be bootloader unlocked. There are many vendors selling phones that are carrier unlocked but cannot be bootloader unlocked. They advertise them as "unlocked". If you are able to buy directly from the Google Store there will be no question that it will work anywhere in the world and the bootloader can be unlocked. If you get the correct one you will not be disappointed!
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Is there anyway of knowing before purchase? Will be from Vodafone UK

mushtafa said:
Is there anyway of knowing before purchase? Will be from Vodafone UK
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Should be fine, it's US carriers that commonly have the issue

Mackay53 said:
Should be fine, it's US carriers that commonly have the issue
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Said the guys using EE.... It was just a heads up to a guy new to the Google line.
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mushtafa said:
Is there anyway of knowing before purchase? Will be from Vodafone UK
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I'm U.S. based so cannot speak to buying a phone from a UK carrier. I know EE is locked for the first six months and then you have to get a code to unlock it. You could also just buy it direct from Google UK. If you need to finance, they probably have better terms and you will have better customer service and warranty experience? If they let you handle a phone, you can quickly enable developer options and check the "Allow OEM unlocking" setting. If it is grayed out or you cannot toggle it unlocked, then the phone cannot be unlocked as-is. Do a search for this developer option and you will quickly see how to access.

Thanks for that, I might look into buying it outright.
If I go for Vodafone, they allow returns within 14 days.

mushtafa said:
Thanks for that, I might look into buying it outright.
If I go for Vodafone, they allow returns within 14 days.
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Just order it through a website like buymobiles etc.
They'll normally just give you a Carrier unlocked one and include the SIM card

mushtafa said:
Thanks for that, I might look into buying it outright. If I go for Vodafone, they allow returns within 14 days.
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You don't have to buy it outright from Google, you can finance it through them as well. Here in the U.S. Google has a 15 day no questions asked return policy for a full refund (or exchange). Don't know how it works in the UK. Warning: Carrier unlocked is NOT the same as bootloader unlockable. No Pixel comes BL unlocked out of the box. There is a setting in Developer options that must be toggled on first to allow unlocking. Trouble is, this setting is only available on certain phones. You could easily buy a phone that will work on any carrier (carrier unlocked), but cannot be BL unlocked. Best of luck and let us know what you ended up with.

Is there anyway of knowing which phones are boot loader un-lockable? Or is it just a case of getting the device and looking in the settings?
Having the freedom of an un-lockable boot loader is one of the main reasons I want a Pixel.
I will probably have to go through Vodafone UK. They are offering me 20% off if I upgrade. No-one else can beat that at the moment.
Can get 'Unlimited Max with Entertainment' (Unlimited calls/texts/data and Spotify) for £48.80 or 'Red 20GB with Entertainment' (The same as before with only 20GB data) for £40.80

mushtafa said:
Is there anyway of knowing which phones are boot loader un-lockable? Or is it just a case of getting the device and looking in the settings?
Having the freedom of an un-lockable boot loader is one of the main reasons I want a Pixel.
I will probably have to go through Vodafone UK. They are offering me 20% off if I upgrade. No-one else can beat that at the moment.
Can get 'Unlimited Max with Entertainment' (Unlimited calls/texts/data and Spotify) for £48.80 or 'Red 20GB with Entertainment' (The same as before with only 20GB data) for £40.80
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Ask Vodafone before you sign up

Asked someone on chat, they only know about the SIM lock. I've ordered, will go and pick it up today and try it.
They've said I've got 14 day cooling off period which is completely free.
Can't wait to ditch this Huawei

Just to confirm, OEM unlock was greyed out in developer options until I updated the software. Now to unlock it and have a play

Which version is the bootloader unlockable?

Trying to decide between this and the 8t, just needing to clarify which version of the phone has bootloader unlock and root available. I'm in USA and on Verizon. Thanks

breacherman said:
Trying to decide between this and the 8t, just needing to clarify which version of the phone has bootloader unlock and root available. I'm in USA and on Verizon. Thanks
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I'd buy from the Google store, not from a provider.

Tulsadiver said:
I'd buy from the Google store, not from a provider.
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ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.

breacherman said:
ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ

andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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ok great, thanks. I'll look into it.

andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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Mine's GTT9Q, but I got it from my carrier. Is this something that is Google Store specific?
I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader of course. Got it from Telus in Canada, but the version comes up for many other countries as well. The US is the first listed.

xunholyx said:
Mine's GTT9Q, but I got it from my carrier. Is this something that is Google Store specific?
I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader of course. Got it from Telus in Canada, but the version comes up for many other countries as well. The US is the first listed.
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Hey man,
Good to see you on the P5!
GD1YQ: US version. mmwave and sub-6
GTT9Q: ROW version. sub-6 only
G5NZ6: JP version. ROW + Felica support

breacherman said:
ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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Don't select the Verizon version from the Google Store even if you are using Verizon or the BL will not unlock. In addition, I ordered mine from Amazon and was also able to BL unlock immediately. Attempting to save $$ and buy from ebay or swappa will likely be a frustrating proposition as the model number cannot be used to indicate BL unlock capability. See this thread.

There should be a sticky that's just for Verizon that states bootloader can't be unlocked. Maybe that'll stop all these repeating Verizon bootloader unlock threads

andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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U mean that your phone bootloader already unlocked when buy from Google Store?

fauz33 said:
U mean that your phone bootloader already unlocked when buy from Google Store?
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No, he doesn't mean that. He unlocked it himself.

thatsupnow said:
There should be a sticky that's just for Verizon that states bootloader can't be unlocked. Maybe that'll stop all these repeating Verizon bootloader unlock threads
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At least this one asked which ones could be unlocked.

Root without unlocking bootloader?

I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?

Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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No root without unlocking the bootloader and the Verizon models cannot be unlocked.

Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you

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How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you
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I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.

Deitybrother13 said:
I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.
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"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.

l7777 said:
"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.
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This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol

bobby janow said:
This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.

Deitybrother13 said:
The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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Yeah, I know that. I never did understand the particulars of that but I'm sure it has something to do with money of some sort to someone. There was always too much fine print and conditions. I'm pretty much stuck on Pixel now so I'll only buy from Google and hope for some kind of discount. On the P5 I got $50 off for something or other. If I were to buy an iPhone I would go to an Apple store. But the other members of my family have all carrier branded devices because they don't give a darn about unlocked carrier or bl able.

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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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As far as I know, every Pixel device sold by Best Buy is Verizon branded. I don't remember where I learned that from, but get your phones from elsewhere.

T-Mobile variant OEM unlock

I bought a carrier unlocked Pixel 5 from Amazon. Unfortunately, it's a T-Mobile variant, and I can't perform a OEM unlock. I tried calling their customer care, but they're all clueless.
Is there any paid service to which I can turn to to get my device unlocked?
Also, I read forums where guys ask representatives in Twitter/FB messenger to get device unlocked. If this is possible, how do I go about this? Where do I get the representative contact?

Unfortunately all we know of is you will need the unlocked variant.
I don't believe any carrier Pixels(s) 5 are bootloader unlockable.
Sorry.

andybones said:
Unfortunately all we know of is you will need the unlocked variant.
I don't believe any carrier Pixels(s) 5 are bootloader unlockable.
Sorry.
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I'm not sure if this is true, but if you call them or pay off the device, you can get bootloader unlocked. You can try getting it SIM unlocked via T-Mobile app, if it's paid off.

webhook said:
I'm not sure if this is true, but if you call them or pay off the device, you can get bootloader unlocked. You can try getting it SIM unlocked via T-Mobile app, if it's paid off.
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Unfortunately, even if it is paid off, I need to have a T-mobile account (not sure if it is any account of the account by which the device was bought) associated with the mobile for atleast 40 days. No way around that. So unfair though. Even after it being paid off. Anyways, thanks for the answers. Really appreciate it.

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Unfortunately, even if it is paid off, I need to have a T-mobile account (not sure if it is any account of the account by which the device was bought) associated with the mobile for atleast 40 days. No way around that. So unfair though. Even after it being paid off. Anyways, thanks for the answers. Really appreciate it.
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Have you tried to get in touch with T-Mo about it? I have no experience with this but maybe they can help

xunholyx said:
Have you tried to get in touch with T-Mo about it? I have no experience with this but maybe they can help
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Yup. This is the reply they gave in Twitter and FB both.

Just purchased a "unlocked" device on swappa only to receive a locked at&t pixel 5.
Requested carrier unlock by calling at&t customer service. My vzw Sim card started working after they unlocked but OEM unlock was still greyed out. Applied all pending updates in settings, then OEM unlock became available. Immediately unlocked the bootloader and loaded Los 20.