Stop pushing updates - Google Pixel 5 Questions & Answers

Setting up my Pixel 5, it appears updates are going to be pushed at me, like it or not. Here in the US, this is annoyance. When I travel to Europe, this is a serious data burner, and data ain't cheap. How do I stop having updates arrive without my control?

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ok guys heres a heads up.... i found this on an internal tmobile website (yes i work for tmobile)
Internet Security Patch for Data Devices
On February 22, the first phase of a security patch that prevents customers from having full internet access without the correct data features on their account was rolled to West Coast markets(California, Seattle, Denver, etc.).
Customers with an MDA, SDA, Dash, or other data devices may call indicating they could previously sync wirelessly and browse the internet without a data feature on the account.
The second phase scheduled for March 1, will complete the security patch in remaining markets.
Action Steps
· Apologize for the inconvenience.
· Explain the differences between our data features.
· Educate customers that in order to access the internet and sync e-mail wirelessly, a Total Internet Add-on must be purchased.
· Do not apply any credits for this issue.
· Do not transfer to Technical Care. Handle as a Billing inquiry
****MOD make this a sticky or whatever..
there might be some truth to this. i wasnt able to connect a little while ago but i thought it was because i flashed a new rom
where you located ??? ... it may just be an outage... i am not holding my breath on tmobile implementing those changes anytime soon even if they said they already started it.... BUT u never know... i will try to keep you guys posted on anychanges
If U are having internet problems THIS could be the reason Y
It is still working. so i think it might be regional or something else.
tonymontana83 said:
where you located ??? ... it may just be an outage... i am not holding my breath on tmobile implementing those changes anytime soon even if they said they already started it.... BUT u never know... i will try to keep you guys posted on anychanges
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new york city
it was out for about a week but now free internet is back on already starting from east coast to west coast.
There are like 4 threads about this at howardforums.com
paypalbid said:
it was out for about a week but now free internet is back on already starting from east coast to west coast.
There are like 4 threads about this at howardforums.com
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yeah i tested mine again today... works great
yeah mine had turned off, but now its working again, im in california
Everyone may just be having downtime. I'm paying for the Internet plan and using internet2.voicestream.com as my APN and I'm still experiencing dropped connections quite frequently.

[Q] Internet connection doesn't work at times

At various points my Focus S seems to lose the ability to use it's data connection- either Wifi or 3G. I can't work out why- has anyone else experienced this? Web pages don't load, etc.
I installed a patch that allowed me to use Internet Sharing, I'm concerned this might have been the cause of it...
I've found that if I do not reboot my phone at least once a day I get random problems like that.
untogether said:
At various points my Focus S seems to lose the ability to use it's data connection- either Wifi or 3G. I can't work out why- has anyone else experienced this? Web pages don't load, etc.
I installed a patch that allowed me to use Internet Sharing, I'm concerned this might have been the cause of it...
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I don't reboot my phone all that often. I've never seen it lose ALL data connection capability tho...
A regular power cycle doesn't hurt tho...
Can this be the issue?
I'm experiencing the same thing, but mainly when I'm connected to 3G. My phone shows it has full bars and 3G or 4G availability but I find 60% of the time my phone has little to no data going to my phone, so none of my apps or news feeds get updated or they get updated slowly. When I'm on wifi the phone works flawlessly.
I read this article,
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/hack-fixes-mms-on-unlocked-samsung-wp7-handsets
One of the odder quirks of Windows Phone 7 to appear since the platform's launch has been the absence of Automatic Data Configuration for users who swap SIM chips and network-hop with their unlocked handsets.
ADC should let the phone communicate with the network it's connected to in order to retrieve all the settings it needs in order to use the network's services. Samsung defended disabling ADC by saying that its phones are intended to only be used with a specific carrier
Now I know this is talking about MMS, but does anyone think it's related to 3G connectivity from a different service provider?
i am having the same problem, it started 2 days ago after i unlocked my phone, at&t gave me the unlock code, i had to enable hot spot & de brand by loading a file, i don't have problem with WiFi just 4G, it will be fixed if i re start the phone.
problem for me with wifi+3G
Not sure if this is the same as the OP. I run with both WiFi and 3G enabled most of the time. Basically everything will be working fine for a while, then I'll try to open a web page from Twitter and it will time out. Sometimes retrying will work, but it will take an abnormally long time to load the page. Other times it never works, and when I go to another app (e.g. mail) and try to sync, and that will also time out. When that happens I usually turn off either WiFi or 3G, then toggle the state of the one I left on (e.g. turn 3G off, then back on), and it clears up. I've never needed to reboot the phone. I don't have ICS enabled, but my phone is fully unlocked.
I've guessed this problem was caused by a lost or bad connection on one of the wireless protocols (like WiFi), where the phone thinks it is connected to WiFi and won't switch over to the other protocol (3G).
One more thing: I'm running 8107 and I don't remember this issue occurring before the upgrade.
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mlekas said:
Not sure if this is the same as the OP. I run with both WiFi and 3G enabled most of the time. Basically everything will be working fine for a while, then I'll try to open a web page from Twitter and it will time out. Sometimes retrying will work, but it will take an abnormally long time to load the page. Other times it never works, and when I go to another app (e.g. mail) and try to sync, and that will also time out. When that happens I usually turn off either WiFi or 3G, then toggle the state of the one I left on (e.g. turn 3G off, then back on), and it clears up. I've never needed to reboot the phone. I don't have ICS enabled, but my phone is fully unlocked.
I've guessed this problem was caused by a lost or bad connection on one of the wireless protocols (like WiFi), where the phone thinks it is connected to WiFi and won't switch over to the other protocol (3G).
One more thing: I'm running 8107 and I don't remember this issue occurring before the upgrade.
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I have the EXACT same issue as you state here. The problem has existed since day one with this phone. I updated through to 8107 and the issues still exist.
So now for some interesting/good news... my dad works for a large company that has direct access to AT&T Wireless Engineers, so he got in contact with an an engineer and explained this issue as both him and I experience the same issues. The engineer was able to get a hold of a Samsung Focus S and experienced the same problems for himself. He then escalated the issue directly to Samsung who in-turn escalated this to Microsoft. Apparently Microsoft claimed the issue was theirs and they are now working on an update to rectify the problem. Samsung also apparently has some updates that they were going to push but have since held off on pushing them until Microsoft has the fix for this data issue fixed.
I've been so frustrated by these issues and the lack of information regarding them that I thought you might be interested in knowing that Samsung, Microsoft, and AT&T ARE working to get the problem resolved.
Wow! This is really great news as I am having the exact same problem. I usually just on and back off Airplane mode and that fixes it, but its a real hassle. So, the word is that Samsung is, possibly, combining all the current issues like this data, the extra settings/quirky display, and the 8107/disappearing keyboard all in to one?
matt
The AT&T engineer didn't say what was going to be included in the Samsung update, just that Samsung was holding off on releasing the update until after Microsoft supplied a fix for the data issues. Hopefully Samsung's update fixes all of the Focus S quirks (data issues, delayed keyboard sounds, quirky display/auto brightness) in one shot.
Thanks for posting this, i feel better that Microsoft & Samsung are working on fixing this issue.
Any updates/news about this specific issue? I have the exact issue with my Focus S since I got my phone
I too have been having this issue and still haven't found a solution. I hope Samsung and Microsoft come up with a solution soon because it is very irritating.
Keep this post updated
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I too have been having this issue and still haven't found a solution. I hope Samsung and Microsoft come up with a solution soon because it is very irritating.
Keep this post updated
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Am I mistaken...but the majority of people posting in this thread, have the problem after installing something non standard?
8107 is not released by Samsung/AT&T, so the possibility that an associated file is not included, does exist.
Was the hotspot patch and official release, or was it intended for sideload or something?
I'm just curious. I had the luxary to have my Dell Venue Pro sent to Microsoft and examined by the Test and OEM team for WP. This was several months ago. They were able to determine I had used the force update trick to update my Device. From pieces of various emails, I was able determine the update included multiple files. The multiple files consisted of Device specific instructions and additional files needed for the that operator, in addition to the Update provided by MS.
If this is the case, forcing an update into place may indeed load the update, but it might not include other needed files.
Now, I'm not an expert, a dev or anything else important. I cannot validate that what I said is true. But, i do have the benefit of having my older device looked at by MS several months ago. This does not prove 2+2=4. But it does raise enough doubt in my mind that I won't be foruce updating my devices until alot more people get a look at this methodology and perhaps come up with some answers, or at least explanations.
Does the internet connection issue appear only after the forced 8107 update?
I had been using a Chevron-unlocked Samsung Focus S on the 7720 and had experienced no issues. Just updated to 8107 following Heathcliff74's method so I hope this issue doesn't start to plague me.
Also, has anyone had success with voluptuary's wifi internet connection sharing and interop-unlock method? I am hesitant to apply that hack exactly because of worries about issues with internet...
I'm a big chicken. I am just going to wait for AT&T to release the update. I just have this funny feeling that there's a little something extra included with the at&t update. I've done plenty of customizing over the years, but just have a feeling about this. I do wish they would step on it, though.
matt
Sent from my SGH-i937 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Extra as in something to block out interop unlocks (bad) or firmware updates (good)? Definitely hoping for a camera firmware upgrade.....
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Extra as in something to block out interop unlocks (bad) or firmware updates (good)? Definitely hoping for to get a camera firmware upgrade.....
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when I said extra, I meant a focus s specific file that might act as a customization or configuration file. I don't think a block file of any sort might be included. But I do know that at&t is proprietary enough to want a unique identifier of some sort. In Gen 1, at&t had special builds just for them, turning on or off features. I know the hd7 had a specific 'config' type file, as did the venue pro. Would I call these extra files? No. I would call them required files. Build 8107 was a single build for WP. Do you think that all phones with mango had the same needs, samex files, same configs? Or is it possible that a related file acted as a config or control.
I'm not smart enough to know for sure. My gut says...maybe. .
Same Problem
Any news on this? I am having the same issue on my Focus S
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Any news on this? I am having the same issue on my Focus S
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We just need AT&T to release the update. That's all. Rumor is all comes with the Tango update.
matt
Sent from my SGH-i937 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I hope so. Thanks for the fast response

How to OTA update to 9.0 Pie before its rolled out to your country (VPN Trick)

This was posted in other Nokia phone forums before but I thought I would put one here based on information I've obtained myself.
Tested by myself on a TA-1060. Should work with other models but I'm not guaranteeing it.
I claim no responsibility for anything that might happen to your device if you update. Updating with modified boot (Magisk/custom kernel) or custom recovery (TWRP) may render your device unusable until you flash stock firmware.
Some of these steps might not be needed, they are simply what worked for me. Feel free to optimize the list if you want.
First of all, check for updates. If it's available in your country congrats you don't need to do anything.
If not:
Remove all SIM cards from your device. This is important because the device will get country information from SIM if one is present.
Download a free VPN app (ExpressVPN and ProtonVPN are good ones I recommend). I personally used ProtonVPN.
If your VPN app has a setting to block internet until the VPN connects, enable that. Also enable connecting on startup if you can. If not, remember to turn the VPN on as the first thing you do after booting later.
Setup your VPN so it will connect to a country that the update has rolled out to. I used India, some other countries like Netherlands may also work.
Disable WiFi.
Go to Settings and delete App Data from the following apps:
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework (Enable "Show system" on the menu)
Software Update
Reboot your device.
Connect to WiFi and make sure your VPN is connected as soon as possible.
Check for updates.
If it all worked, you should be offered the Pie 9.0 update and can install it as normal.
Do not insert your SIM until the update has completed or it may cancel it. Once you've booted into Pie successfully, you can reinsert your SIM card.
Thx for the info.
Does Pie improve performances in your experience? Otherwise, I don't wanna bother.
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Thx for the info.
Does Pie improve performances in your experience? Otherwise, I don't wanna bother.
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Yes, Pie includes performance optimizations which cause the system to be a lot snappier and to perform better. Obviously it won't perform any miracles (This device is limited by its hardware after all), but from my personal experience there was a noticeable improvement.
Keep in mind that just after the update it will still be doing things in the background, takes a few minutes for it to settle afterwards.
Thanks you! It worked for me, i live in Italy and today i did the upgrde to Android 10 go edition. Sorry for my bad english, i'm only 13. Bye
Is the Mediatek chipset inside this thing really that bad? On paper, this phone seems to have more or less the same hardware as the very first Moto G. However, the OG Moto G was usable as a daily driver ( It was the first ever usable budget Android), this one is not.
Software has always been the weak point of HMD. I wish the custom ROM community was still as active as it used to be in the past. Imagine how awesome it would have been if we could cook up some light KitKat ROM for this thing.

On my Note 9 being hacked & the validity of 'Ethical hackers'...

I was running a U1 XAA build of Android 10 2.0 with the
June 1 Security patch that I'd downloaded and flashed
from Sammobile.
Awhile ago I downloaded and flashed the U1 XAA 2.1 update from the same place and noticed that there
are a number of apps I can no longer deny Wifi Control
access to under the Apps Special access area:
DeviceTest
DeviceKeystring
FACM
Gear VR Service
Voice wake-up
being 5 out of the 12 I cant deny access to.
Also I am no longer able to disable Google Play Services
whereas before in 2.0 I could. I'm not even allowed to forcestop Play Services now! Its not just these two changes, there are other things I used to be able to disable but now can't. And I have *two* 'SmartThings'
apps, one is version 10.0.37.0 and the other is version
1.7.50-21 (the-21 is just how its listed.)
I know this all sounds somewhat tame and trivial but I would like to know if this is all normal and can be confirmed by anyone else.
Anyone
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Okay, just wanted to post some info on some sort of resolution to the above, mostly for those who make honest and earnest pleas for help and ask really pertinent questions but are ignored by the knowledgable (or criminal)
peruser.
In short, I was hacked. It doesn't come as a surprise (has happened *many* times with my N9. It *does* make me wonder about that supposed military-grade Knox security)
How do you know if you're hacked?? I just used the Running Services lister under Development Tools. Look
for services that shouldn't be running as often as they do
(Last hack they had Samsung Push which is for delivering notifications related to Samsung apps?? running something as a Service (not sure what it was but as soon as I stopped it, it popped right back up) or things you never use or have deactivated showing up in the cache (ESPECIALLY Aircommand!! Disable this as a Trusted Agent immediately! And keep an eye on it, and always keep the Air Remote feature OFF).
Also, the Google Play Store app. When I flashed the July 2020 Security update I noticed the Play Store was still at the May 2020 version update. I didn't think much of it at the time, but after having to Factory Reset I noticed it now read July 1 2020. So I guess the 'worms' have the May version hacked. Sucks that villany loves working for free breaking stuff, but in order to build something up and protect it, it takes toil and coercion.
Finally (Not sure if this is actually a sign of malware or hacking, but the only reference I could find relating to it
was from a guy who was truly beleaguered by hackers)
theres a User Certificate under Biometrics & Security / Other
Security settings / User Certificates that reads as
'FindMyMobile' and purports to being necessary for VPN security and other applications. Well, I had Find My Mobile
deactivated and uninstalled via ADB and it still showed back up after being deleted numerous times and my VPN seems to work without it. It might be for the Note 9's
built-in Knox android VPN strengthening parameters, but I couldn't find nfo online about it anywhere except in the case I mentioned which seems very odd. Qualifying proof of its malicious intent for me?: After factory resetting it hasn't shown back up.
I dont think my N9 is cleaned or I should say I'll never trust a smart phone fully again, not until the outdated and hacked 40 year old SS7 protocol that runs all cellular communications is updated, not until something more reliably secure than 'somewhat' obsfucatingly complex baseband processors are present in phones and maybe something akin to a hardware firewall in the soc that can interpret and filter non-carrier invalid commands (prob only need to update that damn SS7 protocol!) I'd also love it if Google/Alphabet would dump Android and start over with a new updated mobile OS with security at the forefront (Think, updates delivered via 'Middleware', roms bought initially directly from the manufacturer that can be crytographically flashed up to three times with signed updates with each update burned and locked into the rom via fuses. Each factory reset brings you back to your last update. The roms are only updatable if a hardware dip switch is tripped which moves actual physical leads in the soc which powers the ability to flash this chip. And maybe screw AOSP, I wonder if all this open sourceness has actually given the malware creators more knowledge to
finess the software and the hardware. The so-called white-hat 'Ethical Hackers' (LOL! HOW can breaking into someone's personal space without permission outside of national defense be considered ethical?!? All hackers are criminals. If you want to be considered a 'good' hacker (*snort*) bring to light the measly exploits and software, the slime who make and distribute the same and tell how to protect against them and detect them and disable them. Criminals giving webinars and seminars about how to circumvent protections for devices that billions of people rely on for living should be outlawed FULL-STOP-PERIOD I'd rather have one slime who knows how to get into a system than having that slime be allowed to freely distribute the software and knowledge so that millions of other definately less conscionable scum can make use of his knowledge.)
hackers only care about making their fame and fortune by
beinging to light obscure and unknown exploits that no one has ever used or are likely to use than going after to exoloits that *are* in use and *do* affect those in the here and now. It must give some sense of ease not to be in contention with real criminality and the fear of any reprisals from the 'less-ethically saturated' in the tech community.
Just wanted to get that out somewhere. I know its pointless and no-one will listen. Look at what Edward Snowden sacrificed for people who were/are unworthy of *any* sacrifice by betraying everything bit by bit, battle by battle until it must one day be reclaimed (if it can be) via costly confrontation, disruption and perhaps irrevocable critical loss.
Okay, END RANT. Yeah, a slow day, corona cloud and all.
But seriuosly the Feds need to check all this electronic criminality, its gotten waaay out of hand. TO FEDS: Less hunting terrorists, MORE hunting electronic predators and anarchists!
Hi, @tamdwin,
Even though you believe your phone may have been hacked, DeviceKeystring, DeviceTest, EmergencyManagerService, FACM, IMS Service, IOTHiddenMenu, Samsung MirrorLink 1.1, Settings, Setup Wizard, Wi-Fi Direct & WlanTest are enabled on my Note9 with One UI 2.1, Security patch: 1 July 2020 (w/out Google Play Services/Google Play Store, Bixby, GearVR, DeX...only have Google Services Framework installed).
After downloading the 1 July 2020 Security update, I noticed that these services could no longer be turned off for wi-fi control.
Wish I never downloaded the update for the fancy camera features, lol.
Snowden? Have you read any of his articles on smartphone security? (you may want to throw your phone in a blender after reading...)
Some of the settings, such as disabling "Find My Mobile" from running in the background, reset/enable after you restart the phone.
Snowden? Have you read any of his articles on smartphone security? (you may want to throw your phone in a blender after reading...)
But will it blend!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN9mktgYZJ8
I am worried about these things, so I am looking at developing my own custom ROM.
Sorry for my English I Am brazillian
@P00r ROFL! The Samsung S4 Active shake looks delicious! Thank you for sharing the vid!
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I am worried about these things, so I am looking at developing my own custom ROM.
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That sounds like an excellent plan!

Im suspecting that my WiFi connection is blocking me from getting OTA updates.

Ever since I got my phone, I've always had to go to a UbreakiFix store to update my phone, because every time I check for updates I get a message saying that my software is up to date. My phone is still on the December 2020 patch with One UI 3.0. That last time I had to update, a UBreakiFix store was able to do it. That store is about an hour away from me though.
I've connected to Smart Switch on my PC and it also claims that my software is up to date, even though I know for a fact that isn't the case.
I've had a lot of problems with my WiFi, such as WiFi calling not working, to things like online gaming not being possible because of NAT restrictions.
I have no access to the WiFi settings, as I am renting a room out of a house and the homeowner is the one with full control of the network. It's a Netgear Orbi mesh system. I have tried tweaking settings in the past, but only under their supervision. I couldn't ever get online gaming or WiFi calling to work. What's even more frustrating is that AT&T only allows you to check for updates only once every 24 hours.
What would be a good way to test my theory? I need a WiFi network that would allow OTA updates to be downloaded, and I need to be able to check for updates. Any ideas?
Also, is Smart Switch always right about updates?
TLDR; Phone claims it's up to date when it isn't and I suspect my WiFi network is the problem. Need to test that theory.
Connect to any wifi at a store or cafe or friend/relative house. Many cable isp offer wifi connection outside of home try that.
Are you sure that at&t pushed out newer update?
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Connect to any wifi at a store or cafe or friend/relative house. Many cable isp offer wifi connection outside of home try that.
Are you sure that at&t pushed out newer update?
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The most recent update with OneUI 3.1 got halted by Samsung but I need the security patch update, not the OneUI 3.1 update. So then if that update is pulled, is it possible that I wouldn't be able to receive the January security patch too?
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The most recent update with OneUI 3.1 got halted by Samsung but I need the security patch update, not the OneUI 3.1 update. So then if that update is pulled, is it possible that I wouldn't be able to receive the January security patch too?
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the 3.1 update has already begun rolling out again, I got it myself a few days back. you're in New Mexico ? when I was in the states Wendy's had unlocked Wi-Fi (if you can actually go in there is another matter) but just outside a building with open Wi-Fi should be enough to run an update check.
or if you can stand the agony of waiting longer on a download, try a free VPN app to check and download.
Actually I'm from Seattle, I just need to change my details on my profile. I used to live in New Mexico.
I've heard that the update is only rolling out in Europe right now.
that might be true honestly I don't know. but if you're still behind on previous security updates they should be waiting for you.
worth giving a vpn a try for one off use.
many if not most of the free ones do sell users data and some even ask for device usage permissions which they don't need at all, so maybe test your theory and then delete it.
I called AT&T, they mentioned nothing about being able to push an update, they said that if the baseband and the build number match that I am up to date, and they referred me to Samsung. Samsung said that "not all S20 FE devices are receiving the January security update, not to worry, your device is up to date."
No. It isn't. They both couldn't be any more wrong.
UPDATE: After some googling I found this page of Samsung S20 FE firmware images, but ATT isn't in that list.

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