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Hi all,
As described by XZR IP58 rating, the water proof capability is 1.5meters for 30 minutes in fresh water only.
I wonder what they really mean, and what will happen if I submerge my phone in other medium, salt water - sea for example.
I mean hey, all these waterproof is just about the water pressure exerting on the phone right?
What if I take the phone and go into the sea for <1meter and <5mins?
Has anyone try that?
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Hi all,
As described by XZR IP58 rating, the water proof capability is 1.5meters for 30 minutes in fresh water only.
I wonder what they really mean, and what will happen if I submerge my phone in other medium, salt water - sea for example.
I mean hey, all these waterproof is just about the water pressure exerting on the phone right?
What if I take the phone and go into the sea for <1meter and <5mins?
Has anyone try that?
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seawater may damage the rubber seals. it might leave residue of salt
CressKH said:
Hi all,
As described by XZR IP58 rating, the water proof capability is 1.5meters for 30 minutes in fresh water only.
I wonder what they really mean, and what will happen if I submerge my phone in other medium, salt water - sea for example.
I mean hey, all these waterproof is just about the water pressure exerting on the phone right?
What if I take the phone and go into the sea for <1meter and <5mins?
Has anyone try that?
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Its the microscopic salt crystals which could form if not rinsed properly with fresh water which could then corrode the rubber seals.
Not sure if I am going to try it but if you do I would recommend thoroughly rinsing with fresh water after it has been submerged in salt sea water.
heikis said:
seawater may damage the rubber seals. it might leave residue of salt
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just back from 3 days snorkeling trip. had been submerging it in sea water all the time while snorkeling. Nothing big damaged, but got a rusted part measuring about 2x2 mm around the speaker area and some salt residue stuck at the edge of the lower speaker
celeritykid said:
just back from 3 days snorkeling trip. had been submerging it in sea water all the time while snorkeling. Nothing big damaged, but got a rusted part measuring about 2x2 mm around the speaker area and some salt residue stuck at the edge of the lower speaker
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Since water does get in the back, outside of the battery rubber seal, I am thinking there are plenty of parts there that might be damaged by salt residue. If I put it in salt water, I would make sure to wash it very well after, and also open the back and try to clean somehow the areas outside of the battery rubber seal.
tudork said:
Since water does get in the back, outside of the battery rubber seal, I am thinking there are plenty of parts there that might be damaged by salt residue. If I put it in salt water, I would make sure to wash it very well after, and also open the back and try to clean somehow the areas outside of the battery rubber seal.
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gammalerik said:
Meh. This is just too lousy. The IP-certification covers 50% of the total area, allowing water to accumulate behind the back cover. Just like the S4. This is just an accident waiting to happen. -Purchase aborted.
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For real? Where is the logic in this..first see whats the difference between the 58 and 57 IP Certification.and second if it covers only 50% of the device it will be damaged on the first drop in water...Just watch abit news go on youtube and see what the xperia V that have only 57 cert.did 4 days under whater and they found it at tha bottom of the sea and it was working perfectly.. I don't think that Sony are creating phones which are ''waiting for an accident to happen''ones ^^
effective said:
For real? Where is the logic in this..first see whats the difference between the 58 and 57 IP Certification.and second if it covers only 50% of the device it will be damaged on the first drop in water...Just watch abit news go on youtube and see what the xperia V that have only 57 cert.did 4 days under whater and they found it at tha bottom of the sea and it was working perfectly.. I don't think that Sony are creating phones which are ''waiting for an accident to happen''ones ^^
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what he meant is that the water will go behind the back cover as far as the rubber seals. and when removing the back cover then the remaining water behind the cover may get in direct contact with the exposed battery and other inner eletronics. it is advised to be extremely careful when removing the back cover of a phone that has recently been exposed to water.
heikis said:
what he meant is that the water will go behind the back cover as far as the rubber seals. and when removing the back cover then the remaining water behind the cover may get in direct contact with the exposed battery and other inner eletronics. it is advised to be extremely careful when removing the back cover of a phone that has recently been exposed to water.
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Uh,got the point now its true.
Thanks guys for the info.
The battery is indeed vulnerable if you are to open the cover after submerging the phone into water recently.
I will RECONSIDER if I'm on a vacation to seaside.
I have tried mine in Italy for a minute - no more. Then rinsed it later on.
Tiny sandcrystals and remains of salt water - as others already replied correctly - may not be friends.
And also, after a "water session" when everything dried, remove the back and with a cloth dry any tiny spots that INDEED get behind the back.
With time and use the back may seal even worse.
I think however, that the whole phone is sort of sealed (or at least better sealed in general) against water getting behind the back.
Hi,
The water proof feature is nice. However, I prefer sea water for snorkeling etc. So given corrosiveness of salt it's probably not a good idea.
Still from many reports people seem to have it surviving even salt water submersions when not too long and rinsing it immediately afterwards with fresh water.
But i don't want to dessctroy my nice Z3C obviously, so been looking for intermediate solution, like sealed zip bags or so, that would prevent it from too much wate rcontact, and if it leaks or whatever, it will still not die.
Any idea what could be used , if possible not too big to fit the Z3, and still let take some pics?
The phone is not rated for salt water, so I wouldn't want to try it. Salt water splashes from waves are probably fine.
I also wonder if Sony has a way of telling if salt water got in the phone should you have to send it in for warranty service. Plus, it's also gonna be much easier to inadvertently exceed the depth rating in the ocean. Definitely best to get a dry bag of some kind IMO.
Something like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1035195-REG/loksak_lok_alok3_4x7_3_aloksak_bags_4_5x7.html
Or this: http://www.amazon.com/FRIEQ®-Universal-Waterproof-Carrying-iPhone/dp/B00AW2QT8I/ref=pd_cp_sg_0
There are a ton of waterproof phone cases/bags out there. Just be sure to pick one that promises super-clear plastic for photos.
Please use the questions and answer sections for questions you want answered
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Sorry for wrong forum and thanks for moving it.
I finally ordered one of these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AW2QT8I/ref=pe_385040_121528360_TE_dp_1
Will see how it works with the Z3C
Excuse me... Why should the Z3C not be waterproof in saltwater???
I really cannot see the problem? It is not that saltwater is more wet than "normal" water...
The saltwater will leave some salt when it is dry but you could easily remove this by putting the Z3C in water without salt for some minutes...
I don't believe the salt will do much good to the oliphobic coating of the screen or audio connector.
We are talking about 30 minutes of contact with salt...? To play it safe you use it in salt water for 20 minutes and then put it in normal water for 5 minutes and all the salt is gone...?
And by the way are both the power button and the audio connector made of aluminium...? And why would salt ruin the oliphobic coating of the screen...?
I could understand if pool water with chlorine could do something to the screen but since Sony advertise that you can use it in the pool then that shouldn't be a problem...
Salt is more corrosive unlike chlorine
cyphomatic said:
Salt is more corrosive unlike chlorine
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In contact with iron, yes...Plastic, glass and aluminium, no - not for a 30 minute contact...
Foxhunter123 said:
In contact with iron, yes...Plastic, glass and aluminium, no - not for a 30 minute contact...
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Indeed, I believe that the audio connector might be a weak spot. It sure isn't aluminum. I had other waterproof equipment before with an audioconnector that came into contact with seawater, wich turned out very bad. I won't take a chance.
I will try my Z3c within a week or so when I'm in the Canary Islands.
Have used my previous phone, Xperia ZR, in saltwater many times. No problem at all!
Dont do it. The water proof is only for freshwater.
You may want to read this page : http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz3compact/dm/water-and-dust-resistance/
Never immerse your device in salt water or let the micro USB port, headset jack or other uncovered parts come into contact with salt water. If you’re washing dishes by hand, avoid letting your device come into contact with the detergent or any other liquid chemicals.
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If your Sony smartphone or tablet is waterproof to IPX8 standard*, then you can use it in a chlorinated swimming pool. However, avoid keeping the device in the pool for too long and remember to rinse it off thoroughly with fresh water once you get out.
Over time, chlorinated water can corrode the rubber seals, so prolonged use in chlorinated water is not recommended. But if you want to use your device to get underwater close-ups of a spectacular dive or your child’s first swimming lesson, go ahead.
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Apart from the fact that Sony says don't immerse the phone in salt water, common sense suggests the copper contacts of the mag charger and headphone jack will not fair well (salt water will leave a nice oxide layer on both, which will impact the conductivity). A few minutes and very careful cleaning of the jack (not just a quick rinse) will probably be OK, but then we also have no idea how the glass coating, camera lens coating and various waterproofing membranes will fair in salt water. Knowing the corrosive nature of salt water and Sony's warning I certainly wouldn't risk dunking it in the ocean. YMMV
There was one story of a z2 that survived after being submerged for 6 weeks in salt water
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...g-submerged-in-salt-water-for-6-weeks_id59223
I've used both my previous Z1 Compact and now my Z3 Compact in saltwater, not an issue at all.
Just pour some fresh water on it afterwards.
Blue grotto, long swim from gradola. no problem later
Use a condom, tie a knot waterproof
pakjebakmeel said:
Use a condom, tie a knot waterproof
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For playing safe, you should use one of those waterproof bags for smartphones if you want to take your phone for dives in salt water so necesserily.
You would normally be right
Foxhunter123 said:
Excuse me... Why should the Z3C not be waterproof in saltwater???
I really cannot see the problem? It is not that saltwater is more wet than "normal" water...
The saltwater will leave some salt when it is dry but you could easily remove this by putting the Z3C in water without salt for some minutes...
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However, the frame is aluminium, which doesn't play nice with salt water.
Hi, I use my phone under water and in dust, and I might have to clean USB port since charger sometimes do weird disconnected-reconnected feedback.
How do you clean it? Alcool, WD40?
Thanks!
Why not use a case that closes off the USB port and switch to a wireless charger? I wouldn't use wd40 as it will damage the seal over time
Use dry air to blow out dust/dirt.
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Hi, I use my phone under water and in dust, and I might have to clean USB port since charger sometimes do weird disconnected-reconnected feedback.
How do you clean it? Alcool, WD40?
Thanks!
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Definitely no WD40. Can mess up the phone if it gets through the seals.
Compressed air works great for port cleaning. It will get rid of most loose particles.
For stubborn traoped lint etc, fine micro-tweezers do the job well but need to avoid damaging the USB shelf in the centre.
I use isopropyl alcohol and cotton bud
Don't use it underwater unless you really want to destroy the phone. You need a diving case to safely use it under water.
Using compressed air can easily force the water into the phone. Only very low pressure like a blower bulb should ever be used.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol is a good drying agent, use in a warm, dry room and it's flammable.
I wash my phones under the tap with some soap. Keeps speakers mics and ports clean. Use a toothbrush and some alcohol of this doesnt work.
cosmin94 said:
I wash my phones under the tap with some soap. Keeps speakers mics and ports clean. Use a toothbrush and some alcohol of this doesnt work.
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I live in a dusty environment, in the desert. The most I've had to do with my N10+ was purged moisture in the C port once with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol. It doesn't collect dust in spite of no cover. Maybe use a blower bulb occasionally.
Other ports, less is better. Qtip and blower bulb every 6 months. The recessed holes in the Bolt case also help keep the junk out surprisingly well.
Once you replace the battery I doubt you will trust deliberately exposing this expensive flagship phone to water. It's one seal, one layer of protection and no guarentee it's 100% sealing the phone. It not an rounded edge seal and less reliable; double sided adhesive. This type of sealing system should not be trusted to be watertight especially under pressure.
blackhawk said:
I live in a dusty environment, in the desert. The most I've had to do with my N10+ was purged moisture in the C port once with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol. It doesn't collect dust in spite of no cover. Maybe use a blower bulb occasionally.
Other ports, less is better. Qtip and blower bulb every 6 months. The recessed holes in the Bolt case also help keep the junk out surprisingly well.
Once you replace the battery I doubt you will trust deliberately exposing this expensive flagship phone to water. It's one seal, one layer of protection and no guarentee it's 100% sealing the phone. It not an rounded edge seal and less reliable; double sided adhesive. This type of sealing system should not be trusted to be watertight especially under pressure.
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Since Xperia Z3 I only had IP67/68 phones and all of them got this threatment , soapy shower under the tap. I never had battery replaced phones. Only factory sealed phones. Never had any problems. I also swim with phones in pocket in salty/pool/fresh water.
cosmin94 said:
Since Xperia Z3 I only had IP67/68 phones and all of them got this threatment , soapy shower under the tap. I never had battery replaced phones. Only factory sealed phones. Never had any problems. I also swim with phones in pocket in salty/pool/fresh water.
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I'm talking about latest generation Samsung phones. I have 2 N10+'s. Some of the ones with removable batteries had better seals.
Salt water is sure death to electronics.
Do what you want but it's not like you didn't know better... at least put the phone in a zip lock bag.
These are not dive rated phones... that includes swimming.
Did you notice that Samsung doesn't do those cute underwater camera shot ads anymore? That's because of all the water damaged phones they caused. Carriers ate a lot of them.
so i just got my xperia 1ii today, i was wiping the screen with a bit of wet cloth before sticking on the screen protector, then i saw mist on the front facing camera, next thing i know it screen starts to flicker and turn green, then it died, it was a sad day for me, is it possible for water to get in an ip68 phone when brand new?
it was also kinda my fault for using wet cloth, but like all my other ip68 phones this never happened to me T _ T
WYSIWYG... yes it's possible.
Never assume the seals are intact. Protect from water exposure at all times is what I do.
Will Sony warranty cover it???
I am not sure about Sony's warranty on user error.
There is nothing in the box stating anything about warranty. I bought it online but there is a physical shop that I collected the phone from.
I left it in a bag of rice for 10 hours but the screen still turn up black screen with some odd lines and shut itself down, I feel so dumb for causing this, I usually do the same way of installing screen protectors for my Z3+,Z5 and XZ and water never got in, I feel so embarrassed and unlucky T_ T
Rice Doesn't Work!
The phone needs to be powered down and the battery disconnected asap. Otherwise it will likely be destroyed if it isn't already. It needs to then be completely dried out.
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Battle it out with Sony.
Obviously the first option is incompatible with the second option. I'd send the mess back to Sony, they may or may not suck it up easily.
Sony is a pain to deal with...
blackhawk said:
Rice Doesn't Work!
The phone needs to be powered down and the battery disconnected asap. Otherwise it will likely be destroyed if it isn't already. It needs to then be completely dried out.
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Battle it out with Sony.
Obviously the first option is incompatible with the second option. I'd send the mess back to Sony, they may or may not suck it up easily.
Sony is a pain to deal with...
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Sony is hard to deal with, ya so I've heard, too bad stores are not open today or tomorrow need to wait till Monday.
damn it I bought rice for nothing.
SinclairLen said:
Sony is hard to deal with, ya so I've heard, too bad stores are not open today or tomorrow need to wait till Monday.
damn it I bought rice for nothing.
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I know Sony well, as I have torn into them multiple occasions. They are rotten to the core.
That however doesn't mean that a loose chainsaw can't find an artery
I'm one of the few customers who's gotten a refund check and spoke with a VP in Teterboro NJ. They are slime... the VP's are the worst; a midlevel manager is more likely to help you if you slip through one of the cracks in customer support.
If they take back without trouble, fine.
Otherwise better buckle up Dorothy, it's going be a rough ride.
Did you use a MC or Visa to make the purchase? If so you got leverage...
Send unit back for refund of replacement and do a charge back through the bank.
Do you want another? If not be clear you want a full refund.
Here's the thing I live in Malaysia, I bought it online, and these guys are a small retail start-ups.
They Imported the device from Hong Kong cause we are kinda short on phones that are price above $600. Malaysians don't really spend much on buying new phones hence the difficulty to find high end phones locally, especially Sony, not a popular pick in recent times.
Visa here doesn't even provide any leverage hahaha.
would try to send it back to their local store tomorrow.
I would actually like to get replace to be honest, but some how I have doubts in my mind saying that its gonna be super thought ride.
Have the rear cover removed, disconnect the battery*. Is there visible water in it?
Get out as much as possible.
You need a warm, dry room. Lay on side with a high volume fan on it. Let sit for a couple days.
If you can get anhydrous isopropyl alcohol** carefully flush with that to remove the water. Use care as if it gets between the glass and display it will leave a water mark. Then dry as above.
All connectors, everything must be 100% dry before you reconnect the battery. The room must be dry, heat drives out moisture; use a hot box if you must. Keep temperature under 110F. This may save it...
*the sooner the better.
** never use methanol or isopropyl that isn't at least 96% alcohol. Never use any solvent including isopropyl alcohol with LCD display, it will poison it!
I don't dare to remove the back cover, wont that void the warranty?
I think water got in the LCD connectors, cause last time I turn it on I has weird flickering and turns green with vertical lines.
SinclairLen said:
I don't dare to remove the back cover, wont that void the warranty?
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Yes it might.
That's a AMOLED display not a LCD...
I got some silica gel put in an air tight jar, its been sitting over night since yesterday, hope it turns on tomorrow, or else I am gonna feel so awkward when I bring it to their store.
Damn I've never brought a Xperia phone or any phone in for water damage or any sort of claim warranty before, its giving me the shakes.
SinclairLen said:
I got some silica gel put in an air tight jar, its been sitting over night since yesterday, hope it turns on tomorrow, or else I am gonna feel so awkward when I bring it to their store.
Damn I've never brought a Xperia phone or any phone in for water damage or any sort of claim warranty before, its giving me the shakes.
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That will do nothing. Do Not power it up.
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So I brought it to the store, there was a bit of resistance there, but in the end they allow me to bring it back in for a check.
They say hopefully there is no red on the water damage sticker, cause if there is, they cant help, but if its just faulty they can replace the phone.
blackhawk said:
Yes it might.
That's a AMOLED display not a LCD...
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Sony use since xperia 1 an Oled display and not Amoled.
blackhawk said:
That will do nothing. Do Not power it up.
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You'd be surprised at what silica dessicant beads can do.
V0latyle said:
You'd be surprised at what silica dessicant beads can do.
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Heat drives out moisture. You need air circulation as well for best results. With a sealed phone that isn't going to cut it.
First any free standing water needs to be dumped out... that's sort of funny, but true.
If you every dealt with flood damaged cars the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. Powered on circuits can be damaged irreparably in a short amount of time. A lot depends on the conductivity of the water and how long it sits there. If the battery was disconnected the car may be salvageable.
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Heat drives out moisture. You need air circulation as well for best results. With a sealed phone that isn't going to cut it.
First any free standing water needs to be dumped out... that's sort of funny, but true.
If you every dealt with flood damaged cars the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. Powered on circuits can be damaged irreparably in a short amount of time. A lot depends on the conductivity of the water and how long it sits there. If the battery was disconnected the car may be salvageable.
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Heat can help but the point is to make the air inside the bag extremely dry. Air readily absorbs moisture, which eventually evaporates. Very true about keeping everything turned off; while deionized water is non conductive and won't bother anything, most accidental spills and drops are in contaminated water which not only can be conductive, but may leave behind trace elements as it evaporates.
Still, I've had quite good success with desiccant rescue bags.
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Heat can help but the point is to make the air inside the bag extremely dry. Air readily absorbs moisture, which eventually evaporates. Very true about keeping everything turned off; while deionized water is non conductive and won't bother anything, most accidental spills and drops are in contaminated water which not only can be conductive, but may leave behind trace elements as it evaporates.
Still, I've had quite good success with desiccant rescue bags.
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I've cleaned thousands of circuit boards over to remove the flux. Sticking them in a sealed container with dry air is one thing I never did to dry them. Anhydrous sopropyl alcohol is an excellent cleaning/drying agent for most electronics, but needs a dry room to avoid condensation as it evaporates. Dry warm/hot air with high air flow is best for both isopropyl and water. Most times I also used compressed air to knock off the solvent/water beads then dry the pcbs. A high air flow blower of a large shop vac was another favorite for drying them.
Heat drives out moisture ie hot box. Hot boxes have been used for over a century especially in humid climates to preserve surgical instruments, camera equipment and electronics. Works regardless of the outside humidity. The box or cabinet is sealed but not completely air tight.
The surgery room at Pennhurst actually had it's surgery instrument cabinets lined in the back with steam heated radiators, circa about 1900.
They had large glass doors.
You could vacuum dry it though as this be very effective but again the cover should to be removed at the minimum. It's easy to make a small vacuum chamber, the vacuum pump doesn't need to pull a high vacuum to work well at a warm temperature.
Desiccant bags are best used to keep sealed items dry rather than to remove water per se.
I use them to protect lens.
As for the conductivity of the water it's a crap shoot. It could be mixed with sweat, be acidic, or otherwise contaminated.
I used RO water to flush my Buds case when it fell into a full cup of coffee, cream and sugar. The RO water to chase the sugar, then anhydrous isopropyl alcohol to chase the cream and water. Allowed it to dry in the sun and in a room for a day with the spot welded battery in it. I had the case torn apart and flushed within 5 minutes. 2 years later it still works normally. I drank the coffee after I cleaned the case, perfect day
Silica gel works to a degree on my phone, the screen was able to turn on with the start-up logo but as soon it turns on it restarts itself.
I guess two day wasn't enough, especially on phones that are partially sealed, but I guess its true, not all phones are made equal when it comes to waterproof, I remember my XZ was completely waterproof, the swimming pool kind of waterproof.
Its like buying a lottery when you get a phone that fails its waterproof.
still waiting for update from the seller hahaha.
Hi techies,
My pixel 4XL has recently had a water accident, everything works perfectly now except the rear camera is cloudy and cant focus properly. I opened the phone and wiped the lens with a good amount of robbing alcohol, its even worse now. So what should i do? Do i have to open the entire camera module and wash the tiny lenses and the sensor or what? I really wanna repair it myself instead of buying a new sensor because it takes so long for me to arrive.
Thank you,
Pixel 4 XL is IP68 water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins).
Has it been opened before?
If you used isopropyl alcohol, then there should be no problem, but it should be dried for a long time after such an operation.
Well, I am not an expert on cameras but the cause of your blurry photos may be caused by:
-The motor of the camera don't work, so the lens can't move and as a consequence don't focus
-there is water inside the lens or in the sensor (which can't be seen unless the camera is disassembled.
If you have water inside, as it manage to get in it may be a way for get it out. I would suggest you to take the camera module and heat it up with a hairdryer so water can evaporate and get out. But don't heat it up too much do, it could damage the sensor.
However as you said you used alcohol, it leaves some residues which if is the case, with this method it won't be fixed.
If this doesn't help you would then I think you would need to disassemble the camera. Iwill leave a link to a video off a guy who disassemble an Iphone camera. It isn't the same, but it's similar Here
Also are you sure there isn't any software related causes?
Good luck
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Well, I am not an expert on cameras but the cause of your blurry photos may be caused by:
-The motor of the camera don't work, so the lens can't move and as a consequence don't focus
-there is water inside the lens or in the sensor (which can't be seen unless the camera is disassembled.
If you have water inside, as it manage to get in it may be a way for get it out. I would suggest you to take the camera module and heat it up with a hairdryer so water can evaporate and get out. But don't heat it up too much do, it could damage the sensor.
However as you said you used alcohol, it leaves some residues which if is the case, with this method it won't be fixed.
If this doesn't help you would then I think you would need to disassemble the camera. Iwill leave a link to a video off a guy who disassemble an Iphone camera. It isn't the same, but it's similar Here
Also are you sure there isn't any software related causes?
Good luck
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Thank you for the reply,
I'm sure the problem is the water+dirt or residue inside. Ik the water has been gone since then and alcohol is evaporated but there must be some dirt sitting in there. This phone has never had a force to get some component cracked inside.
As for the software thing, i'd say i dont think so, what software related issue it might be? Since the front facing cam works just fine, the cache has been deleted, i even downloaded open camera to take more control over the sensor manually. Its just foggy. Like some filter has been applied to it.
ze7zez said:
Pixel 4 XL is IP68 water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins).
Has it been opened before?
If you used isopropyl alcohol, then there should be no problem, but it should be dried for a long time after such an operation.
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Idk if it was, since i bought it in mint condition second handed. The alcohol i used was 96% Ethanol, not the same as the isopropyl, but i dont think of a major difference, but probably some dust has gone there underneath the lens.
Pixel4life said:
Idk if it was, since i bought it in mint condition second handed. The alcohol i used was 96% Ethanol, not the same as the isopropyl, but i dont think of a major difference, but probably some dust has gone there underneath the lens.
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Do not use ethanol for electronics, because you can dissolve many components. Besides, ethanol contains water, which harms electronics. That's why isopropyl alcohol is used, because it has much lower dissolving properties, and if it is pure (99.99%) it absorbs water and causes it to evaporate faster from the cleaned items.
Show the picture you take with your camera.
ze7zez said:
Do not use ethanol for electronics, because you can dissolve many components. Besides, ethanol contains water, which harms electronics. That's why isopropyl alcohol is used, because it has much lower dissolving properties, and if it is pure (99.99%) it absorbs water and causes it to evaporate faster from the cleaned items.
Show the picture you take with your camera.
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I have marked the centric area that diffuses the light. It could be a dried-up blob of whatever you washed the lens with. The liquid could easily penetrate the camera and get under the lens or even onto the matrix if the seals were not tight.
ze7zez said:
I have marked the centric area that diffuses the light. It could be a dried-up blob of whatever you washed the lens with. The liquid could easily penetrate the camera and get under the lens or even onto the matrix if the seals were not tight.
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Yes most probably that's the case. So wha's your suggestion for me? Tear the lens down, wash the components inside it with soap and water, dry it out and reassemble? Or what to do? Im kinda disappointed now. Been shaking and tapping the lens since yesterday with no success lol.
If you still want to use this model, I advise you to replace the camera with a new one, or recovered, so that they are original.
I do not ignore your self-denial and other talents, but I think that you will not fix the camera yourself.
ze7zez said:
If you still want to use this model, I advise you to replace the camera with a new one, or recovered, so that they are original.
I do not ignore your self-denial and other talents, but I think that you will not fix the camera yourself.
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Ok then i have to order a camera lens then, are those sub 10 buck lenses from Aliexpress oem parts? The reviews are excellent but the prices are syspicious. Plus, i almost forgot to mention something. There werw two sponge/rubber curcles (whatever the material) arround the camera lenses, which locate between the cameras and the outer glass. (i marked them) when cleaning, they chopped off. Any chances this be a reason the light doesnt diffuse the right way?
It is for this purpose that the cover glasses are blackened or coated with other coatings so that there is no side light. Gaskets also serve this purpose. The tube of cameras and scopes has been made of blackened material since the oldest times.
ze7zez said:
It is for this purpose that the cover glasses are blackened or coated with other coatings so that there is no side light. Gaskets also serve this purpose. The tube of cameras and scopes has been made of blackened material since the oldest times.
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So does it affect picture quality?
Plus, I managed to diassemble the camera module, soaked it in alcohol and dried it up, its even more blury now lol