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So, I just upgraded from my old 4S to the moto x. i love it. It is really fast and snappy and does all the things i do exceptionally well.... except for one thing... group messaging. I can send messages out to a group, however when people reply to me the messages get sorted into separate threads from anyone on an android. it seems weird, and i have checked the MMS settings and they are all there. tried speaking with Motorola and they said it's working as intended. Was wondering if anyone else had this issue.
Also, i am on Verizon.
Thank you in advance,
-Jim
Just a heads up for anyone having this issue.
I read through some other threads and no one had an answer, i figured i'd update everyone and let them know what i found. I download Textra, this allowed me to get all my messages in one group thread. I even went back to the default texting app and all the messages were grouped. I then went and removed textra. the threads then split up again.
Long story short, it looks as though there may be some settings that you don't get the privilege of seeing with the default app. at this point textra is working and using super minimal resources so i'm ok with this.
jimski427 said:
I read through some other threads and no one had an answer, i figured i'd update everyone and let them know what i found. I download Textra, this allowed me to get all my messages in one group thread. I even went back to the default texting app and all the messages were grouped. I then went and removed textra. the threads then split up again.
Long story short, it looks as though there may be some settings that you don't get the privilege of seeing with the default app. at this point textra is working and using super minimal resources so i'm ok with this.
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I like to try to get everyone on hangouts since almost everyone has a gmail account and it is multi-platform. I know that's not a solution to group messaging with the messaging app, but it's a great alternative I think.
Good idea,
yea, it is a good idea, i just feel like a **** telling all of my friends to use that for only me haha. this is working great and you can just use standard text messaging/mms.
Group messaging works fine on the Moto X. There does appear to be a SIM provisioning problem on some phones that can be fixed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441250&highlight=group
Edit: I just re-read the OP - this may not be the same issue... take a look though and see.
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Group messaging works fine on the Moto X. There does appear to be a SIM provisioning problem on some phones that can be fixed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441250&highlight=group
Edit: I just re-read the OP - this may not be the same issue... take a look though and see.
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Yea I read that. I went in and I can see my phone number, I can also send the messages as MMS. For some reason when I get the replies they get split into different threads. Now that I use the textra app is has started working as it should. The weird part is it now works as it should in the stock app. Idk what behind the scenes settings it alters.
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Yea I read that. I went in and I can see my phone number, I can also send the messages as MMS. For some reason when I get the replies they get split into different threads. Now that I use the textra app is has started working as it should. The weird part is it now works as it should in the stock app. Idk what behind the scenes settings it alters.
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I have a verizon dev unit that is able to send and receive group MMS fine. So far I have only tested it with other phones on verizon though. Do you have the group messaging option turned on in the messaging settings?
Yup I went in and selected the group messaging option. The weird thing is that textra adds more options than my stock messaging app. Idk if its something that textra enables that for some reason I can't see in the normal settings. The pic with 17 at the end is my phone settings. The one with 66 is the textra app.
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Replaced phone
So I spent about an hour and a half in total with verizon tech support and they had no idea why this is happening. I then went in and had them replace the phone at the store, sent a text before i even loaded any google accounts or settings. This issue still happened. I am kind of annoyed, but i guess i will have to try and wait for 4.4 to see if it fixes it.
I also use Textra for MMS, the stock messaging has never kept MMS in the same group for me on any of my phones. It is not a problem with the phone just Android's stock message app...kinda sucks, I've always hated it and I never use it. Textra is my newest favorite. Hoping Hangouts does a good job but until then I'm satisfied.
My group messaging worked just fine on stock messenger. Now with hangouts its still working just as good. Never really had a problen
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jimski427 said:
So I spent about an hour and a half in total with verizon tech support and they had no idea why this is happening. I then went in and had them replace the phone at the store, sent a text before i even loaded any google accounts or settings. This issue still happened. I am kind of annoyed, but i guess i will have to try and wait for 4.4 to see if it fixes it.
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It has to be a provisioning problem if it followed you to a new phone. Have you tried your SIM card in a completely different phone that supports group messaging? I know that VZW has been doing group messaging for a while now. It may be different in stock Android (group messaging didn't work until 4.2).
Another thought: do you have a different phone that you can install CM 10+ on? I believe that does group messaging in the same way that stock 4.2+ does. That would be another way to confirm the problem is with the carrier, but doing it at a VZW store on one of their phones would carry more weight.
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It has to be a provisioning problem if it followed you to a new phone. Have you tried your SIM card in a completely different phone that supports group messaging? I know that VZW has been doing group messaging for a while now. It may be different in stock Android (group messaging didn't work until 4.2).
Another thought: do you have a different phone that you can install CM 10+ on? I believe that does group messaging in the same way that stock 4.2+ does. That would be another way to confirm the problem is with the carrier, but doing it at a VZW store on one of their phones would carry more weight.
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I did not try a phone at the store, but it did follow me to a new moto x without even logging into any google accounts or anything. i unfortunately do not have any other phone that i could swap sims with to test this. It did work perfectly fine on my iphone 4s before though. Not sure if it was IOS messaging app fixing the issue with my network or not. It's odd that other apps seem to work perfectly fine though. At this point i'm going to wait for 4.4 and see if it works. VZW tech support in store and via phone have no clue.
I got my Moto X developer edition and the group messaging was working like a charm UNTIL I tried the texting from my computer application in chrome. since then, all my group texts are separated by user instead of thread.
LoffKat said:
I got my Moto X developer edition and the group messaging was working like a charm UNTIL I tried the texting from my computer application in chrome. since then, all my group texts are separated by user instead of thread.
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Which computer application?
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Which computer application?
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I'm assuming Motorola Connect. Same thing happened with me, but now with SMS Hangouts, everything is fine.
Hello,
Has anyone swapped to the Google Messages/Android Messages app over the stock Samsung messages app on the S10/S10+ and been able to get RCS working?
I came from a Pixel 3 XL and enjoy the Android Messages app over the Samsung app even with the OneUI overhaul, but I cannot get RCS/Chat working - it is not even visible in advanced settings. If I swap to the Samsung app it sends RCS messages no problem, swap back to Android messages it goes back to SMS/MMS only. I also installed Google Carrier services thinking maybe it needed that to trigger it but nothing, looks like the Carrier services app also does not get triggered to actually provision anything even with it installed.
Would love to hear if anyone has this working
Same issue here. I prefer Android messages since I get a lot of verification codes texted to me and Android messages has a quick copy code option. On TMobile. Rcs works fine on Samsung message app.
MellowMax said:
Hello,
Has anyone swapped to the Google Messages/Android Messages app over the stock Samsung messages app on the S10/S10+ and been able to get RCS working?
I came from a Pixel 3 XL and enjoy the Android Messages app over the Samsung app even with the OneUI overhaul, but I cannot get RCS/Chat working - it is not even visible in advanced settings. If I swap to the Samsung app it sends RCS messages no problem, swap back to Android messages it goes back to SMS/MMS only. I also installed Google Carrier services thinking maybe it needed that to trigger it but nothing, looks like the Carrier services app also does not get triggered to actually provision anything even with it installed.
Would love to hear if anyone has this working
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I am using T-Mobile and I have not yet had RCS support(waiting for it), but I want to ask, how did you install Google Messages app on your new Samsung phone? Did you transfer your info including apps using Samsung Switch app? If yes, some apps may not have transferred correctly, so I would uninstall them, then reinstall or just try clearing data of that app.
Charkatak said:
I am using T-Mobile and I have not yet had RCS support(waiting for it), but I want to ask, how did you install Google Messages app on your new Samsung phone? Did you transfer your info including apps using Samsung Switch app? If yes, some apps may not have transferred correctly, so I would uninstall them, then reinstall or just try clearing data of that app.
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I have uninstalled and reinstalled Google Messages a few times, still does not resolve, even installed Google Carrier Services to attempt to fix. Really odd if you cant use a different message client with the same tech.
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Right now its only supported on the stock Samsung messaging app.
Charkatak said:
I am using T-Mobile and I have not yet had RCS support(waiting for it), but I want to ask, how did you install Google Messages app on your new Samsung phone? Did you transfer your info including apps using Samsung Switch app? If yes, some apps may not have transferred correctly, so I would uninstall them, then reinstall or just try clearing data of that app.
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"Messages" is a public app that Google has on the Play Store (just search for 'Messages' and make sure you get the one from Google LLC), and anyone with an Android phone can download it. It's a drop-in SMS/MMS replacement for OEM (or carrier) apps for SMS/MMS.... it also supports RCS, but not on every phone.
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dansan382 said:
Right now its only supported on the stock Samsung messaging app.
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And it looks like it may stay that way for a while: For RCS to be shared between apps, the way SMS/MMS are, Google needs to build an API so that different apps could access the same data. It LOOKED like htye were going to do that, but then 9to5Google and others reported that the code was hidden and commented out in the Android Q preview, with comments suggesting that it wouldn't be available till Android R. Lord knows why it's taking Google this many hears to get down basic functionality on something as important as messaging... they've been pushing their RCS Universal Profile since 2016, so it seems ridiculous that it'll be 2020 (for Android R) before they release an API baked into Android for it.
Textra is still my favorite SMS app. I wish Messages and Samsung Messages would implement their quick reply features
It works for me sending messages to my parents who are on Sprint with me using the Google Messages app. I'm pretty sure they are using the default Samsung messages app but I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
Not exactly the same but worth a mention...Verzion S10- has Real Time Text (RTT) working..you enable this from the stock phone dialer screen, three dots at the top right for Settings > Real Time Text. You can set it to always on and you'll get the additional option to send an RTT type message call whenever you click a contact.
Hey all! Just wondering if anyone has figured out how to enable the Google RCS setup inside the Samsung Messages app for the snapdragon variants? I've used just the built-in activity launcher with nova to dissect the app a little and it's got quite a few built in options. Just curious if anyone was able to make it work in the US. So far I've only seen people from Europe get access.
Download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rrivenllc.shieldx&hl=en&gl=US
Create an account
Enable device admin & knox
Go to app manager
look for IMS Settings
Open the mainactivity
Look for the RCS options there and enable it including its features.
Sorry I can't be specific with the instructions since I don't have my phone at the moment but just try it.
Riyal said:
Download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rrivenllc.shieldx&hl=en&gl=US
Create an account
Enable device admin & knox
Go to app manager
look for IMS Settings
Open the mainactivity
Look for the RCS options there and enable it including its features.
so under RCS Config. mine says RCS Home Preference = Always connect, RCS Roaming Pre = Always connect?? it was already defaulted to this. does it mean that it should already work? doesn't seem like it thoug.??
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Hi sorry for the late reply.
From IMS Settings go to IMS Service Switch and enable RCS Switch and all the RCS sub section toggles at the bottom. And do that on both sim slots. You can switch by clicking the sim slot # at the upper right corner of the screen.
I've been struggling with RCS since I got the S21U, I can connect to both the Google messages app and the Samsung default app, but the RCS switches (main and sub-switches) on the IMS settings app won't stay turned on, as soon as I leave the page they turn to gray.
I've got all the multimedia telephony flags on and all are working fine, just the RCS flags won't stay up.
inpression said:
I've been struggling with RCS since I got the S21U, I can connect to both the Google messages app and the Samsung default app, but the RCS switches (main and sub-switches) on the IMS settings app won't stay turned on, as soon as I leave the page they turn to gray.
I've got all the multimedia telephony flags on and all are working fine, just the RCS flags won't stay up.
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S21U Unlocked straight from Samsung.
RCS stuck in verifying.
I just turned it off.
I'll wait for Google to get its act together on this.
WhatsApp "just works".
nixnixnixnix4 said:
S21U Unlocked straight from Samsung.
RCS stuck in verifying.
I just turned it off.
I'll wait for Google to get its act together on this.
WhatsApp "just works".
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I don't think you understood my problem, RCS in google messages says connected, except I don't really have chat features. I can connect to Samsung messages too, but it still won't use chat features.
My problem is with the RCS flag on the IMS settings page, it won't stay on, I turn it on, simply switch SIM card from 1 to 2 to 1 and it's gray again. Everything else on the IMS settings is turned on and working, just the RCS flags won't stay on.
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IMS settings page
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Where is this thing you speak of?
The IMS settings page that used to be accessible through the messages app activities, now you have to use something like alliance shield x unless you're rooted.
I installed Google Messages and Carrier Services , chat connected and google messages works with all the RCS features.
dpw2atox said:
I installed Google Messages and Carrier Services , chat connected and google messages works with all the RCS features.
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In the US?
Well, you shouldn't have to install Carrier Services on a Samsung device. They manage that themselves.
Yea in the US, i wasn't aware of that part about carrier services though, I know it was needed on my pixel so I assumed it was needed on this as well.
I have a US S21U unlocked from direct from Samsung. I'm using Google messages. Most of my friends use iPhones, so I don't normally have an opportunity to test RCS. But a friend recently got a T-Mobile S21U, he's not a technical person, so I expect he's using whatever message app the carrier models default to, not sure if that's Samsung or Google. RCS just works between me & him.
I cant force them to work, google app stuck on veryfing number, samsung messages keep saying registration failed. Nice,
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
I cant force them to work, google app stuck on veryfing number, samsung messages keep saying registration failed. Nice,
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I'm facing the same issue.
I had it working and then it stopped working.
Try the RCS de-register thing. Disable RCS and then wait a week or so and then try again.
You can also try to call your carrier. I'll try that later as well.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
I'm facing the same issue.
I had it working and then it stopped working.
Try the RCS de-register thing. Disable RCS and then wait a week or so and then try again.
You can also try to call your carrier. I'll try that later as well.
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Well, do not need it much... Just tried on my wife's s21 and same, clicked register and it went gray
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Well, do not need it much... Just tried on my wife's s21 and same, clicked register and it went gray
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What carrier?
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What carrier?
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Ee, managed to sort this out on my phone by after 100 times, but can't force it to work on my wife's s21. I thought it is not carrier relevant as it is goun through Google servers?
joloxx9joloxx9 said:
Ee, managed to sort this out on my phone by after 100 times, but can't force it to work on my wife's s21. I thought it is not carrier relevant as it is goun through Google servers?
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Same here. But, it ain't working for me here in the US either.
It was working for a short time but then it stopped.
May have been something I did.
Try this: https://messages.google.com/disable-chat
Then, re-register.
This may be a longshot, but does anyone know if RCS works between a person using google messages with chat enabled to say someone using a T-Mobile Samsung with stock messaging but with the enhanced messaging enabled?
fil.lujan said:
This may be a longshot, but does anyone know if RCS works between a person using google messages with chat enabled to say someone using a T-Mobile Samsung with stock messaging but with the enhanced messaging enabled?
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Nope, it doesn't work. I tried with a spare phone I had and both phones either have to use Google messages or both have to have the Samsung messenger inorder for chat features to work.
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This may be a longshot, but does anyone know if RCS works between a person using google messages with chat enabled to say someone using a T-Mobile Samsung with stock messaging but with the enhanced messaging enabled?
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I use Samsung Stock messages app on my S21U while my wife uses the Google Messages app on her OnePlus 6. RCS works just fine. Similar experience with using RCS with other friends who have non Samsung devices.
enigmaamit said:
I use Samsung Stock messages app on my S21U while my wife uses the Google Messages app on her OnePlus 6. RCS works just fine. Similar experience with using RCS with other friends who have non Samsung devices.
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Is it the stock messages for the others or did they install carrier services and google messages? Thanks for replying. Appreciate it.
JG96EVO said:
Nope, it doesn't work. I tried with a spare phone I had and both phones either have to use Google messages or both have to have the Samsung messenger inorder for chat features to work.
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That's a bummer, thanks for replying.
Update: So I am using stock samsung on tmobile firmware, had the people who use google messages delete my threads and now rcs is working between everyone. Just in case anyone was interested.
RCS is a failure, IMO. If it succeeds, it'll take at least 5-10 years from now.
I've had my ViVO fold for about 3 weeks now, and have everything working except I can't get the notification dot to appear in the corner of my text and Gmail widgets.
I have shuffled the bloatware onto the last page, and combined most of it into a bloatware folder, so I never see it, and implemented the phone entirely with Play store apps. I use native Google apps for Gmail and text, drive, docs, sheets, etc, and everything works fine except I have to access Gmail and messages, to see if I have any new emails or texts. I use T-Mobile and it worked fine from day one.
I have been reading XDA threads as a guest since I got my fold. I have seen the general discussion about vivo fold issues, but can't find it anymore.
What asking you for?
Mostly, I am reporting my experience of treating it like a regular Android phone, and ignoring the vivo stuff.
The only question I was asking was how to get the notification. On my Gmail and messages icon.
DanZan6 said:
Mostly, I am reporting my experience of treating it like a regular Android phone, and ignoring the vivo stuff.
The only question I was asking was how to get the notification. On my Gmail and messages icon.
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You should use just the stock message app which works fine with notifications and dual Colin display etc. no real advantage to using Google message and the scaling is way too huge. Does your Wi-Fi calling work? Mine is turned on but doesn’t work.
nvgear said:
You should use just the stock message app which works fine with notifications and dual Colin display etc. no real advantage to using Google message and the scaling is way too huge. Does your Wi-Fi calling work? Mine is turned on but doesn’t work.
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Got it, thank you
I have the same problem with my facebook and gmail notification, I tried many tip but still no luck