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FRF91 freezes 5 times daily?

What is going on here? It either freezes when:
1) slide-to-unlocking
2) switching between programs
3) google sync icon shows up in notification bar
4) in apps
Need to pull battery all the time! What's going on?
I've had this ever since the FRF50! I'm so annoyed and want to go back to 2.1, but I do love the battery life I'm getting with FRF91.
Any help please?

Sorry, realized I posted this in the wrong forum. Can MODS transfer the thread to Q&A?

I'm getting freezes on the same situations you have posted. However not with the same frequency as you. Mine is 1-2 daily.
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strange, my phone is stock and ive had none of these issues, i actually thought my battery life had worsened since 91. It seems like the green meter doesnt drain as quick but the actual percentage drains faster than ever for me, at least i think so

This should unusual and should not be happening. Wipe everything and reflash.

That's Strange... I haven't had any freezes since installing the FRF91 OTA.

galaxys said:
That's Strange... I haven't had any freezes since installing the FRF91 OTA.
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Yepp, same here! Never had a single freeze/lock-up since I manually updated to FRF91 from EPF21.

Hardware Issue
Seem to me you either have a defective apps or widget, a defective SD or a hardware issue like defective video ram or something like that, you could try to use a benchmark app like quadrant this may help pinpoint the exact subsystem that cause crash (video, cpu, ram) and try running stock OS with almost nothing loaded ...
This is assuming you are running from a clean install, When you have issue it's always a good idea to clean install (full wipe etc...)

Try to go to bootloader (press and hold trackball when power on), then go to recovery and clear out cache.

Mine is stock and sometimes it freeze when I tried to unlock. I had to turn the screen off and on 1-2 times to make it work again

Following your advice and let me monitor for a day or so. If doesn't work I will wipe everything and reflash.
Thanks!
mingkee said:
Try to go to bootloader (press and hold trackball when power on), then go to recovery and clear out cache.
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wipe everything and flash both FRF91 and the latest gapps.

1. How many app you have and 2 are they on your SD? If you have alot of apps ittaking up your internal space causing you to freeze.
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I actually installed spare parts the same day i installed stock frf91, so i am not sure who is the culprit. It didnt happen today, but froze yesterday and the day before.
turned off all the animations (transition/window) to get maximum speed out of my n1 using spare-parts maybe thats causing the craziness no?

Same here, 2 or 3 times per days.
I have found that cpu is burned by com.android.email ! This apps eat all cpu power when there is no wifi/data connections available and it try to sync mail...
The phone become unresponsive or very slow until connection return or I kill the app.

Xialis said:
Same here, 2 or 3 times per days.
I have found that cpu is burned by com.android.email ! This apps eat all cpu power when there is no wifi/data connections available and it try to sync mail...
The phone become unresponsive or very slow until connection return or I kill the app.
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I have same issues with that process. Setting both gmail and exchange to PUSH solves the problem.

still froze twice today....wiped + reflashed FRF91..now resetting up my phone .... hope this will stop the freezes...will report back

Xialis said:
Same here, 2 or 3 times per days.
I have found that cpu is burned by com.android.email ! This apps eat all cpu power when there is no wifi/data connections available and it try to sync mail...
The phone become unresponsive or very slow until connection return or I kill the app.
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I think I found a solution.
Go to email account, settings
Auto check->off

DarkDvr said:
I have same issues with that process. Setting both gmail and exchange to PUSH solves the problem.
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Thanks, It works

[Q] Galaxy Note not waking up?

I can't put my finger on this issue I've been having with my Note.
Don't get me wrong, this device is a godsend!
The problem I've been having is that sometimes when I take my Note out of my pocket and try to press the unlock or menu button it doesn't show anything on the screen. I've read about people having issues with delay before it pops up, but it doesn't pop up even after 10 seconds or a minute, it feels like the device 'hangs' or doesn't want to wake up. The only way I can turn the phone on again is by pressing the unlock button for like 10 seconds and the phone reboots.
I thought it was a problem with Green Power, I thought it maybe had issues turning off the wifi or data when the screen was locked and that the service would cause the OS to crash or 'hang'. When I look at my battery history after the reboot it shows that I lost a significant amount of battery (5-15%, depending on how long it took for me to 'discover' the crash) and there's a 'jump' in the graph.
Things I've tried:
Stock rom - problem persists
Different kernels - tried all the kernels available in the market including stock, problem persists
Add a bit of paper between back-cover and battery (to make sure it doesn't lose contact)
Checked if there was dust between battery connections
Tried different sim card
Tried disabling wifi and data all day (mysteriously persists)
DIfferent governors (ondemand and interactive) (the phone reverts to default governor after the forced reboot, normal? i have my phone set to interactive on boot, but somehow it skips that after the forced reboot)
I've attached a picture of the battery graph. According to the stats there's a 25 minute gap where the phone was 'stuck' and you can see that the screen was on and active for that duration.
There are NO funny apps running in the background, this is is a clean install with some standard Samsung apps frozen.
tl;dr version: phone randomly won't wake up; battery loss after forced reboot;

I might have found the issue myself. Now when I come to think of it, I think it always occurs after I've been in my car for like a 30 min drive... Maybe the phone is having trouble switching networks? Anyone know what might be causing this?
Or better yet, how can I research this issue? Can I enable some logging somewhere to track this?

I had the note for about 10 days and today, about 1 hour ago it happened to me for the first time. I tried the home button to wake the screen but nothing, tried the power , nothing and holding the power but nothing happened. I had to pull the battery.

I had this problem in the beginning, but no more.
It's one of two things, in my case. Restoring apps (with data) from Titaium backup, or SetCPU or both. Do a factory reset, reinstall apps without data. If using setCPU, disable it for a while to see if it happens again. It's been over a week and the problem is gone.

tamarian said:
I had this problem in the beginning, but no more.
It's one of two things, in my case. Restoring apps (with data) from Titaium backup, or SetCPU or both. Do a factory reset, reinstall apps without data. If using setCPU, disable it for a while to see if it happens again. It's been over a week and the problem is gone.
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I was using System Tuner instead of SetCPU to freeze apps and change governor, maybe I've just been using the wrong app? I deleted it just in case. Will see if the problem persists, thanks!
The nasty thing about it is that it seems to happen randomly (but it most likely doesn't) and is pretty rare (happens once every 3 days).
Still, I don't like the fact of not being available for X amount of time, even if it's 30 minutes.

I'm on stock room and unrooted. Like I said first time it's happened.

i've had the GNote since 4 days now , and yesterday same thing happened as the device was in my pocket and i couldnt wake it up at all , battery pull solved it.
im on stock , non rooted

I can't believe that we are the only ones with this issue. Anyone else? OR better yet, how did you resolve it?

Dont know if this is the same issue as the streak had, but with the streak if you kept it your pocket with the screen facing your body this would sometimes happen. Flipping it so that it that the screen doesnt face your body in your pocket solved this issue.

kirkla79 said:
Dont know if this is the same issue as the streak had, but with the streak if you kept it your pocket with the screen facing your body this would sometimes happen. Flipping it so that it that the screen doesnt face your body in your pocket solved this issue.
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Thanks for your reply. I did some research, and apparently it had to do with static being built up in the screen from wearing it towards your body in your pocket.
This issue was that you couldn't swipe the lockscreen cause the touch screen wouldn't respond. The problem we are having is that the screen won't even turn on and that the system locks up.

Same issue here with my 2 days old Galaxy Note, that's how I found this forum. In my case it went from not waking up occasionally to every time WIFI was ON (I did some experimenting with settings to see which one could be the one causing the problem). But then...occasionally it would not wake up even with WIFI OFF: very annoying. And this is my first Android, so I didn't have any custom anything, pretty much same as out of the box when I got it The only solution was to reset the handset. And definitely has nothing to do with having it in my pocket as I don't carry it in my pocket. Rang Samsung, they told me it was faulty, I returned it. Now I'm concern the next one is going to have screen issues? As so many people complain in this forum? we'll see.

My issues have been resolved after flashing AbyssNote 1.4 and when I stopped using System Tuner. I've started using Voltage Control instead and now I'm not even having problem @ 100Mhz undervolted 50mV from stock.

Same problem with my wife's Gnote, totally stock, just a small handful of apps installed. Happened twice, about a week apart.
She does a lot of travelling, maybe you're right about that. But it happens after she gets home when it's still OK.

Had the same same issue twice in two days and had to do a battery pull, just did a master reset and re -installed the applications manually, so far so go.
YOu guys think its a hardware or a software issue?

Hmm.. Happened to me too about three times in the last two weeks. I am on stock rom but rooted, and running Green Power. Hopefully samsung will fix it in the next updates. Seems like a software bug to me. Maybe not enough juice when in deep sleep?

metus666 said:
I was using System Tuner instead of SetCPU to freeze apps and change governor, maybe I've just been using the wrong app? I deleted it just in case. Will see if the problem persists, thanks!
The nasty thing about it is that it seems to happen randomly (but it most likely doesn't) and is pretty rare (happens once every 3 days).
Still, I don't like the fact of not being available for X amount of time, even if it's 30 minutes.
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Hello
its the problem of your kernel. try Abyys 1.4 and use XDA Superpower to adjust the CPU-Frequency automatically

neunzehn77 said:
Hello
its the problem of your kernel. try Abyys 1.4 and use XDA Superpower to adjust the CPU-Frequency automatically
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problem is it also happens on stock rom.

mfractal said:
problem is it also happens on stock rom.
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It's very well possible that the stock kernel has faulty settings for the CPU. Haven't had the problem again with AbyssNote 1.4 and Voltage Control (even with custom cpu frequencies)

I just got my note today.
Battery in, turnt it on a few mins playing around.... the problem started
and hasnt since stopped...
Anyone tried contacting samsung about this?
software fix or hardware issue ??

qazkamakazi said:
I just got my note today.
Battery in, turnt it on a few mins playing around.... the problem started
and hasnt since stopped...
Anyone tried contacting samsung about this?
software fix or hardware issue ??
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at this point we're just guessing, there haven't been any official confirmations of the problem as far as i know.
But if it's so accute that it keeps happening all the time you must have a faulty device.. call samsung ?

[Q] Atrix won't stop rebooting? help?

I'll try to keep this brief. Earlier tonight I downloaded the Nova Launcher on the google play store. It worked fine, I set it up how I wanted, etc etc. Well I went to looking for an app to replace the circles app on stock ICS. I found an app called "Fancy Widgets" and downloaded it. Practically as soon as it finished downloading my phone rebooted. I thought, maybe, it just needed to reboot for the app to take effect. I had to do that with a previous phone.
But no, Now my phone is just in a constant loop of boot and load to the home screen, wait 10-20 seconds and reboot. It just keeps going through this over and over so basically my phone is useless at the moment.
Does anyone know how to help this? I'm lost. If I can't get it figured out I'm going to have to stay up all night trying to figure it out because my phone is my alarm clock and I'll oversleep otherwise. So.. Please help!! Thanks!

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I'll try to keep this brief. Earlier tonight I downloaded the Nova Launcher on the google play store. It worked fine, I set it up how I wanted, etc etc. Well I went to looking for an app to replace the circles app on stock ICS. I found an app called "Fancy Widgets" and downloaded it. Practically as soon as it finished downloading my phone rebooted. I thought, maybe, it just needed to reboot for the app to take effect. I had to do that with a previous phone.
But no, Now my phone is just in a constant loop of boot and load to the home screen, wait 10-20 seconds and reboot. It just keeps going through this over and over so basically my phone is useless at the moment.
Does anyone know how to help this? I'm lost. If I can't get it figured out I'm going to have to stay up all night trying to figure it out because my phone is my alarm clock and I'll oversleep otherwise. So.. Please help!! Thanks!
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Already tried power and volume down button (6 sec)?

Good news is the att sound works as a good alarm. I found out when mine did that. Restart in safe mode by holding down power and volume rocker then do a factory reset.
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funny, I've had nova launcher working with fancy widgets when i updated my phone and it went into a reboot loop. it only happened to me when i updated the phone though

My first Atrix HD rebooted itself daily, sometimes bootlooping and causing me a lot of grief. The phone was fine for the first two days. After that, it went haywire. I would run logcats to try to determine the causes of the bootloops. I always found an error with some random app. I'd uninstall it and the phone would be fine for awhile. Eventually, I came to the conclusion that a problem with the wifi radio was the underlying cause. If not, the wifi problem and reboots were co-morbid, so to speak, and related to the same problem. I was pretty sure the real problem had to do with faulty hardware. I exchanged the phone for another. I've had this one for three days now and it just rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. That bugs me.
I like the phone, but I think there may be an unusually high number of defective units out there. That's based solely on anecdotal information, but I believe it to be true. If anyone has any additional theories or has an explanation for these reboots, that would be a great help to me.
McEwen.

McEwen said:
My first Atrix HD rebooted itself daily, sometimes bootlooping and causing me a lot of grief. The phone was fine for the first two days. After that, it went haywire. I would run logcats to try to determine the causes of the bootloops. I always found an error with some random app. I'd uninstall it and the phone would be fine for awhile. Eventually, I came to the conclusion that a problem with the wifi radio was the underlying cause. If not, the wifi problem and reboots were co-morbid, so to speak, and related to the same problem. I was pretty sure the real problem had to do with faulty hardware. I exchanged the phone for another. I've had this one for three days now and it just rebooted itself about 15 minutes ago. That bugs me.
I like the phone, but I think there may be an unusually high number of defective units out there. That's based solely on anecdotal information, but I believe it to be true. If anyone has any additional theories or has an explanation for these reboots, that would be a great help to me.
McEwen.
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Yeah, I wish someone knew what the problem was. After I posted this originally at the beginning of October, I deleted Fancy Widgets and didn't have any more problems with boot loop until this week. I blamed it on my two newest apps and un-installed them, but the problem is there somewhere and I randomly reboot after installing Nova back.
This really bothers me. I had just gotten used to how I had everything set up in Nova. The stock launcher is disappointing in comparison now that I've experienced something better.

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Yeah, I wish someone knew what the problem was. After I posted this originally at the beginning of October, I deleted Fancy Widgets and didn't have any more problems with boot loop until this week. I blamed it on my two newest apps and un-installed them, but the problem is there somewhere and I randomly reboot after installing Nova back.
This really bothers me. I had just gotten used to how I had everything set up in Nova. The stock launcher is disappointing in comparison now that I've experienced something better.
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Replying to myself, but yeah..
It now looks like my issue has something to do with DoubleTwist music player. Nova worked until I tried to put a DoubleTwist widget on my homescreen and it IMMEDIATELY went into boot loop.

Screen flashing after update.

Just bought my first Nexus phone yesterday used of Amazon. Worked fine for the first hour then was prompted to update to 5.0.1. After the update the phone display will turn off randomly for a second every 5-10seconds (display turns off (not dims not locks). Dose not happen in bootloader and still happens even after flash installing 6.0.1 and Android N. The issue only happens for the first 20-30min after boot. It almost seems like an application that only runs the first 30min after boot is crashing the phones gpu. Anyone had this issue or have any insight?

Play store: Advanced Task Manager.
With this app you can kill apps.
You can select which apps.
Maybe you can find the cause

NLBeev said:
Play store: Advanced Task Manager.
With this app you can kill apps.
You can select which apps.
Maybe you can find the cause
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Tried this and it didn't stop it. Even tried booting in safe mode. The issue happens even before Android loads up (during the splash animation).

Defective phone
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Jcssk said:
Tried this and it didn't stop it. Even tried booting in safe mode. The issue happens even before Android loads up (during the splash animation).
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I agree with the previous poster (Mike... ).
If you can't find a software cause, it may possible a hardware issue.
Some hardware problems are temperature related. Shutdown and cool down the phone.
A few minutes in the freezer. Than restart the phone.

Nokia 8 Sudden Restart occurred Randomly

To all Nokia 8 users, have you ever had any issues that sometimes your Nokia 8 starts to freeze seconds and then restart by itself? It doesn't happen once but multiple times. It happens sometimes when you are trying to do something like playing game or opening Google play app. However, since booting to OS and if you leave it be until like many hours later, it won't go sudden restart. Only when you do activities, will it suddenly restart.
Why is this happening? The ROM and app are the same as it be and didn't happen long ago. It only happens like two days ago.
I hope users of Nokia 8 experts have solution to this issue. Thank you
EDITED: I found out the real cause. Although this is hypothesis, it seems GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES is the culprit. I noticed it just force closes and then whenever I launched any apps that have something to do with play services, it just goes into bootloop.
Can anyone confirm this?

godofknife said:
To all Nokia 8 users, have you ever had any issues that sometimes your Nokia 8 starts to freeze seconds and then restart by itself? It doesn't happen once but multiple times. It happens sometimes when you are trying to do something like playing game or opening Google play app. However, since booting to OS and if you leave it be until like many hours later, it won't go sudden restart. Only when you do activities, will it suddenly restart.
Why is this happening? The ROM and app are the same as it be and didn't happen long ago. It only happens like two days ago.
I hope users of Nokia 8 experts have solution to this issue. Thank you
EDITED: I found out the real cause. Although this is hypothesis, it seems GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES is the culprit. I noticed it just force closes and then whenever I launched any apps that have something to do with play services, it just goes into bootloop.
Can anyone confirm this?
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I don't have this problem but you can try to clear the cache and data of play services in application setting.
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Toedwarrior said:
I don't have this problem but you can try to clear the cache and data of play services in application setting.
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Did that. Didn't work. Only by freezing this Google play services, does the Bootloop stop happening. The consequences are the any app that uses Google play services like YouTube will not run well.
Also, I tried installing Gapps using TWRP flashing via zip. But that doesn't solve the problem. Why.....

I've came from a Nexus 5x and a Nexus 6p and the word bootloop gives me goosebumps
Does your phone reboot when you open the stock camera ?

Just_Rise said:
I've came from a Nexus 5x and a Nexus 6p and the word bootloop gives me goosebumps
Does your phone reboot when you open the stock camera ?
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No. Never open Stock camera. Just any apps that have something to do with google play services.

Do you use sd card? because i have the same problem here

I got not only the same issue but also the problem with sounds after update to Pie. And i realize when i put my phone in the charger, issues stop; when i put it out issues happen again and again...

Haleytheslayer said:
I got not only the same issue but also the problem with sounds after update to Pie. And i realize when i put my phone in the charger, issues stop; when i put it out issues happen again and again...
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I got the same problem. When my phone's battery drops to 60% or lower it restarts whenever I spend some time surfing the net or opening up the stock camera, with the addition of removing my fingerprint scan every time it restarts that way. However, these issues immediately stop when I plug my phone to its charger. I thought the security update fixed these but sadly it didn't.

I have the exact same issue.
I got my Nokia 8 (ta-1012) one month ago and it occurred about 10 times.
It occurs frequently when I'm using the UI too much, for example, lower volume and hiring it too fast, touching many UI elements and swapping quickly between apps etc..
It freezes for like 10seconds and it restarts quickly, that is, just the UI.
I'm on Oreo BTW. Can anyone confirm having that issue on nougat ?

This happens with me..on camera and games
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Haleytheslayer said:
I got not only the same issue but also the problem with sounds after update to Pie. And i realize when i put my phone in the charger, issues stop; when i put it out issues happen again and again...
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Exactly my issue

JistunB said:
I got the same problem. When my phone's battery drops to 60% or lower it restarts whenever I spend some time surfing the net or opening up the stock camera, with the addition of removing my fingerprint scan every time it restarts that way. However, these issues immediately stop when I plug my phone to its charger. I thought the security update fixed these but sadly it didn't.
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I solved my problem, i brought my phone to Nokia care center and they replaced my battery with the new one. Thats battery problem, thats all.

May I ask what was the cost of battery?

I just downgraded to Nougat 7.1.1 and for now, the issue of restarting is gone !
Please confirm that if someone is on Nougat.

Even i have the same problem for my nokia 8. Is there any solution to rectify it.

vinslin said:
Even i have the same problem for my nokia 8. Is there any solution to rectify it.
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I was on Pie, from where I downgraded to Oreo the problem persisted, then I downgraded to Nougat and the issue is the same, I play a game or video it starts to stutter, even if the video is streaming online or downloaded and being played from memory/rom. I initially thought it was software issue but it seems that I was wrong, I wasted too many hours and bandwidth just downgrading. Now the issue is that I have voided my warranty by unlocking the bootloader, what are my options? as someone said they have gotten the battery replaced. How much does it costs? I am 100% convinced that its battery related issue as when I plug my phone in the charger then all goes fine.
Using Nokia 8 (TA-1004)

My phone started having the same trouble a couple of months ago, it all started with the camera app. Now things are so bad that as sOon as I enter security pin and the home screen appears, the phone restaerts...and it keeps happening until I plug in the charger. This happens even when the battery is 95%. Can't even touch it!!!
I was so excited to get this phone, although everyone told me not to... but I was in love with it... and "Grief is the Price we pay for Love", right?
How could the battery get so weak with average use in just 9-10 months? And how could so many users start experiencing the same problem all at once?
Any help shall be appreciated!

To be sure about your battery , First put your mobile on safe mode for 7 days and notice if restart will happen again or not? also notice battey consumption and charging rapidly mode.-
I was having same problem for last few months , when I put my nokia 8 on safe mode (Restart while pressing down volume button) ,the Restarting problem did not happen even once for 7 days, So I discovered that it is software problem that cause system to hang and restart and consume battery.. Then I discover that " many months ago on android Oreo" I was making changes in Devoloper mode To stop and prevent application from running in background , This was nice on oreo but on Android Pie it cause conflect and system hang with some application that refuse to stop causing system restart.. All problem had gone after allowing application to work again in background normally .. Till now for about one month no single restart >> Also , Rapidly charging mode working nice but unfournatly battery consumption Still high.

I have the same problem with Nokia 8 . Sudden restart and issue with sound at times. Anyone knows the reason, and the fix for it would be appreciated

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yozil said:
I have the exact same issue.
I got my Nokia 8 (ta-1012) one month ago and it occurred about 10 times.
It occurs frequently when I'm using the UI too much, for example, lower volume and hiring it too fast, touching many UI elements and swapping quickly between apps etc..
It freezes for like 10seconds and it restarts quickly, that is, just the UI.
I'm on Oreo BTW. Can anyone confirm having that issue on nougat ?
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i have the same problem and after having knowledege about it,i came to a point that this is a software issue as it contains bugs. .

I have the same problem too .
I noticed it a couple of months ago but It could've start long before and I just didn't noticed it.
With Oreo I'm quite sure it never happened.
Reboots randomly once a day (more or less) it happened just 10 min. ago,the phone was on the desk close to me so I had the opportunity to observe it "live"...it was in standby and no app was apparently running .
Quite strange anyway,I'm pretty sure it's a software issue;the battery seems still in health (no unmotivated drain).
Nothing dramatically serious anyway,just strange...there must be a way to fix it...
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To be sure about your battery , First put your mobile on safe mode for 7 days and notice if restart will happen again or not? also notice battey consumption and charging rapidly mode.-
I was having same problem for last few months , when I put my nokia 8 on safe mode (Restart while pressing down volume button) ,the Restarting problem did not happen even once for 7 days, So I discovered that it is software problem that cause system to hang and restart and consume battery.. Then I discover that " many months ago on android Oreo" I was making changes in Devoloper mode To stop and prevent application from running in background , This was nice on oreo but on Android Pie it cause conflect and system hang with some application that refuse to stop causing system restart.. All problem had gone after allowing application to work again in background normally .. Till now for about one month no single restart >> Also , Rapidly charging mode working nice but unfournatly battery consumption Still high.
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Following your advice,I just tried changing at the voice" app/backgroud processes" in Developer mode from "standard" to " allow max 4 processes";I don't know what's intended for "standard" value but something should change...let's see and x fingers